Iran`s Tug of War with America


President Bush recently visited Europe in a five-day fence-mending journey. Everywhere he went, if there was a persistent theme it was that 'Iran should not have a nuclear weapon.' In that he reached agreement with leaders of the EU countries.[1] On the final leg of his tour, he even tried to persuade his post-9/11 on-again and off-again 'buddy' Vladimir Putin in the Slovak capital of Bratislava into not selling nuclear fuel to Iran. Putin reminded Bush that he had no proof that Iran wanted to acquire the nuclear technology for anything but peaceful means. 

Bush also tried to sell his version of 'freedom' and 'democracy' to the Russian leader. There again he miserably failed to induce Putin, who in his turn did not fail to mention that Russia would follow its own version of the both, and did not need any lecturing on the subject of democracy from someone who would not have graced presidency if were it not for those appointed judges in the Supreme Court that decided the case (four years ago), in spite of trailing Gore in popular vote counting.[2] 

Since Bush first came to power, he and his neocon advisers (most of whom are Zionists) set up an agenda that has been doggedly anti-Iran, alleging the latter to belong to an 'axis of evil.' Iraq is now under the U.S. occupation, in spite of not possessing the WMDs, and North Korea has declared that it has nuclear bombs. This declaration does not seem to alarm the Bushies as much as the perceived threat from a 'nuclear' Iran. But why, one ponders, when North Korea (and not Iran) is closer to the USA? 

It is ludicrous to think that America, with the largest stockpile of nuclear arsenals and a yearly military budget of more than $500 billion (almost equal to the military budget of the rest of the world), is afraid of Iran (whose military expenditure is less than a percent of America's military budget), even if the latter were to develop nuclear weapons.[3] 

The reason for America's agitation is obvious: Israel. Everything the neocons and the 'Amen Corner' in the Capitol Hill can think or dream about vis-a-vis the Middle East involves Israel.[4] They are not serious about a nuclear-free Middle East but about a nuclear-free and emasculated Arab and Muslim world that could never challenge the Zionist state. Obviously, no one in Washington ever dares to question why the rogue state has not signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, to which Iran is a signatory; or about an inspection of Israel's main installations at Dimona that house a large arsenal of around 200 nuclear missiles, as most independent analysts believe.[5] That is the level of evil, two-facedness with which Washington has sealed its image! 

Thus, when Iran says that it wants to acquire the nuclear technology to provide the much-needed cheap power (and clean-air) to its people, the friends of Israel in Washington are troubled. They know that Iran's becoming a nuclear power would alter the imbalance of power in the Middle East, curbing the tactical advantage of Israel.[6] It would be a stabilizing force in a much-troubled area. Therefore, they complain: would not Iran's becoming a nuclear power threaten our ally (and rampart) in the Middle East? They hypocritically argue: "Why should Iran go for nuclear power, when it sits on a sea of oil?"[7] Interestingly, when asked about the rationale behind America's (which also sits on a large sea of oil) own relentless obsession with nuclear technology, they don't have any satisfactory answer.[8] If it was the threat from nations on the other side of the Pacific and the Atlantic, should not Iran have at least the same right to protect itself, now that it is surrounded on all sides by hostile, pro-American satellite states (let alone Israel, with a history of aggression against Muslim states)? 

After all, whether we like it or not, nuclear power has acted as a deterrent in many places. For example, since possessing the bomb, India and China have not fought a single war. Nor has there been a major conflict with Pakistan after the latter also acquired the bomb. For France, the nuclear deterrent symbolized the country's independence from Washington and, at one stage, from the European Community. Truly, there has not been a single world war since America dropped bombs in Japan.

Ayatullah Ali Khamenie, Iranian supreme leader, declared on November 5, 2004 during a Friday Khutbah that 'developing, producing or stockpiling nuclear weapons" is haram under Islam. While such a profound statement should have been sufficient to stop the controversy, the fact that Washington has not relented from its accusations show the level of enmity she holds against Iran, since the hostage crisis. 

For several months, the policy planners inside the Pentagon have been studying three major tactical options: full-scale of invasion of Iran, surgical strikes of Iranian nuclear and missile installations, and surrogate strike by Israel - modeled along the lines of Osirak. None of these options are considered viable for they would increase the prospect of counter-strikes on American assets around the world.[9] According to investigative journalist Seymour Hersh, Pentagon planners are considering covert actions against Iran.[10] In a talk delivered to a packed house in Olympia's Capitol Theater in the Washington State, Scott Ritter, the ex-Marine turned UNSCOM weapons inspector (an anti-war activist now), told that George W. Bush has "signed off" on plans to bomb Iran in June 2005, and claimed that the U.S. manipulated the results of the recent Jan. 30 elections in Iraq.[11] Nothing would surprise me with the entourage that surrounds President Bush![12] 

On the day of Presidential inauguration, January 20, '05, vice president Dick Cheney, in an interview aired on MSNBC, said, "You look around the world of potential trouble spots, Iran is right at the top of the list. Given the fact that Iran has a stated policy that their objective is the destruction of Israel, the Israelis might well decide to act first and let the rest of the world worry about cleaning up the diplomatic mess afterwards."[13] Is Mr. Cheney giving the cue to Israel for preemptive strikes? Is there a connection with the recent appointment of a former air force general to the chief of staff position in Israel?[14] How is Iran on the top of the potential trouble list compared to so many more deserving contenders for the title, including Israel and the United States, responsible for so much of human suffering since Sharon and Bush came to power?[15] Who, one wonders, can teach new tricks to an old dog or a prejudiced man to forego chauvinism?

On February 27, '05 to the dismay of the Bush Administration, Russia signed an agreement to sell nuclear fuel for Iran's only nuclear reactor at Bushehr, in southern Iran. The first consignment of enriched uranium would be dispatched to Iran from Siberia in the middle of the next year. The deal helps Russia in several ways, e.g., the hard cash that it badly needs, the future bargaining power from the G-7 countries (especially from the USA) and resurrecting its image as an alternative world power willing to stand up to the bullying and buying power of Washington. And the agreement could not have come at a better time for Russia given the fact that in much of the Muslim world there is now so much loathing and apprehension about Bush's motives and moves. The latter's illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq has made the country the most insecure place on earth.[16] So, the deal helps Russia to gravitate the Muslim world towards her. By all measures, it is a win-win situation for Russia. And, if Putin is smart, he should not bargain this new image for a shortsighted tactic that would only seal his nation's fate as a double-crossing partner. (It is in Russia's interest that it should look eastward and try to encourage the formation of an Asian Union, modeled similar to that of the European Union. A multi-polar world is truly more secure than a mono-polar world left to the mercy of a Hulagu Khan wannabe.)

The deal with Iran stipulates that Russia will take the spent fuel back home, a move that guarantees prevention of nuclear proliferation. Yet, many in Washington are upset. John McCain, the maverick senator from Arizona, and a leading Republican member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, accused Putin of carrying out 'aberrational' policies and acting 'like a spoiled child.' He said that Russia should not be invited to the G8 summit in Gleneagles in July. Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham echoed McCain: "It is time for the Russian government to pay a price for empowering the bad guys and slipping back away from democracy."[17] I am not at all surprised by such reactions from friends of the rogue state. They epitomize hypocrisy and only prove that Muslims cannot trust them for a balanced and fair foreign policy. 

For the last few months, western countries have been playing the roles of good cop and bad cop with Iran. While some progress has been made to lessen the potential nuclear crisis diplomatically though the mediating efforts of Britain, France and Germany, the latest report from Reuters implies that Bush is considering joining the Europeans in offering Iran incentives. The incentives may include permission, long denied by the USA, for Iran to join the WTO. If the report is true, offering economic incentives for Iran to halt development of its nuclear program would mark a significant shift in US policy, one not welcome in some Washington circles.[18] 

History is replete with examples of Western duplicity against Muslim nations. Today it is the USA, yesterday it was France, Italy and Britain, and the day before yesterday Spain, Holland and Russia. And the tragic cycle of betrayal goes on, sometimes with newer faces. The nations of the West must earn their trust before the Muslim world will rely on them. 

Iran has a long and vivacious bazaar culture that predisposes it to be a cautious and good faith negotiator. Hopefully, an honorable and just solution to this crisis can and will be found that won't cost human lives.

 

Dr. Habib Siddiqui lives in suburban Philadelphia, PA, and is the author of the book Islamic Wisdom. He can be reached at [email protected]

 

End Notes:

[1] http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050223/ap_on_re_eu/bush

[2] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4292807.stm

 http://www.nj.com/newsflash/washington/index.ssf?/base/politics-4/1109255657174350.xml&storylist=washington#continue; see also PBS TV discussion "Washington Week" with Gwen Ifill..

[3] See the CIA Fact sheet for comparable statistics. Iran's military expenditure in 2003 was reported by CIA to be $4.3 billion. According to the World Bank database (September, 2004) Iran's total GDP in 2003 was $137 billion, which is less than America's military budget; America's GDP was $10.9 trillion. (See also: http://www.sipri.org/contents/milap/milex/mex_major_spenders.pdf)

[4] Philip Zelikow, a former member of a top-level White House intelligence group PFIAB, speaking on a panel of foreign policy experts at the University of Virginia on September 10, 2002, said, "Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll tell you what I think the real threat is and actually has been since 1990 - it's the threat against Israel." (See the article: Iraq was invaded 'to protect Israel' - US official, Asia Times, Feb. 15, 2005 for details.)

[5] See, e.g., http://www.aljazeerah.info/4%20o/Israeli%20Nuclear%20Terrorism%20By%20Steve%20Jones.htm.

[6] See, e.g., Roger Howard's articles: "Why Israel Really Fears Iranian Nukes" - parts 1 and 2, Nov. 27, 2004 and February 26, 2005, http://www.antiwar.com.

[7] See Senator McCain's remark reported by Reuters, Feb. 27, 2005 (Sen. McCain: Bar Russia from G8 Over Iran Deal by Randall Mikkelsen). 

[8] USGS estimates the identified reserves of oil in the USA at 51 billion barrels (the comparative figure for Iran is 69.2). The undiscovered oil in the USA is estimated at 44 billion barrels (Iran's figure is 22 billion barrels, nearly half of the USA) (see: http://energy.er.usgs.gov/products/papers/World_oil/oil/nam_oil_table.htm). The total oil consumption in the USA in 2003 was approx. 20 million barrels/day. See also: http://www.radford.edu/~wkovarik/oil/. One should not also be oblivious of the fact that America caps its own reservoirs from producing oil while clamoring for cheap oil from outside. Truly, if prudent methods for secondary and tertiary oil recoveries are practiced in its oil rigs, America need not be dependent on Middle Eastern oil for at least a couple of decades. During primary oil recovery only about 20% (maximum) oil is recovered, leaving behind almost 80%. (For a detailed study on viscous fingering, miscible and immiscible fluid displacement processes in disordered porous media, see this author's papers in the Journal of Physics and Chemical Engineering Science, published between 1983-91.)

[9] Rep. Jim Leach, "Get Real: The Case for Restraint with Iran," www.antiwar.com, November 30, 2004. 

[10] See Seymour Hersh's article "The coming wars: What the Pentagon can now do in secret" in the New Yorker magazine, Jan. 24-31, 2005 for a detailed discussion on the subject.

[11] See Scott Ritter's comment: http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/02/1722945.php. A recent visit to Algeria by Hassan Rohani, secretary-general of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, was aimed at "sending a clear message to Washington that Iran is ready to defend its right to possess nuclear energy for peaceful purposes" (http://www.wpherald.com/Middle_East/storyview.php?StoryID=20050227-074506-2580r).

[12] Quoting a government consultant with close ties to the Pentagon, Seymour Hersh writes: "The civilians in the Pentagon want to go into Iran and destroy as much of the military infrastructure as possible." He also writes, "... the Defense Department civilians, under the leadership of Douglas Feith, have been working with Israeli planners and consultants to develop and refine potential nuclear, chemical-weapons, and missile targets inside Iran. ... Rumsfeld and two of his key deputies, Stephen Cambone, the Under-secretary of Defense for Intelligence, and Army Lieutenant General William G. (Jerry) Boykin, will be part of the chain of command for the new commando operations. Relevant members of the House and Senate intelligence committees have been briefed on the Defense Department's expanded role in covert affairs, a Pentagon adviser assured me, ..." (Op. cit.)

[13] Cheney says: Iran tops U.S. list, warns Israel, Jan. 20, 2005 (Reuters).

[14] General Dan Halutz was chosen by Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz on Feb. 22 to become the new chief of staff. http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=676920&C=mideast

[15] Since September 29, 2000, Israeli Defense Forces have murdered nearly 3600 Palestinians, and injured another 30,000. Bush, in his turn, has killed more than 100,000 civilian Iraqis, mostly women and children. The death toll of Afghans is estimated to be close to ten thousand.

[16] As I write this article (February 28, 2005), more than 115 Iraqis died in a mysterious car bomb, with few hundreds injured. Per international law, the protection of the people in the 'occupied territories' is the responsibility of the occupying force. In this, Bush has terribly failed. 

[17] CNN's "Late Edition," February 27, 2005.

[18] During Bush's visit to Europe, he said that he wants diplomacy to succeed, while at the same time threatening that 'all the options are on the table.' Interestingly (and not surprisingly), the latter theme was articulated by Patrick Clawson, deputy director of WINEP (a supporter of the Administration), in a Dec. 16, 2004 essay - Carrots for Iran? Lessons from Libya - where he wrote: "If in fact Europe wants to reach a trans-Atlantic consensus about Iran, then Europe would do well to remind Iran that the military option remains on the table." (http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC05.php?CID=2205)


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  17 Comments   Comment

  1. Akbar Khan from Canada

    Brother Hudd, Peter and I do not deny your statements about British colonialism and Imperialism and all things related. But you are missing our point as well.

    I also appreciate it that you stayed silent when a bunch of psychos accused me of being a spy on this website. But that's okay cuz it doesn't really matter. I am not a self-declared scholar of Islam as you labeled me - I only follow orthodox Sunni scholars, period.

    I am most definitely not working for the CIA...hahaa i'm only in my mid 20's, I live around GTA brother Hudd just like you.

    If I have said anything at all to you that was not right, I ask your forgiveness, as I have known you through this website for a very long time, keeping our friendship is more important to me.

    I am sure we have specific differences of opinion, but all 3 of us MUST agree on one thing, to always always have Islamic etiquette for each other at all times. I can think of nothing else worse than 3 Muslims like us, who would do anything to defend the message taught to us by our beloved Muhammad Mustafa Sal' Allahu 'Alaiyhi wa aalihi wa Sallam, to fight over something as stupid as to what is white and what is black...(sigh) So I just suggest that we leave this alone because this is exactly what is wrong amongst all of us Muslims everywhere, like for example, arguing at the family gathering about Kentucky Fried Chicken being Haraam or Halaal, next thing ya know, uncle #1 jumps up blood boiling, ready to give uncle #2 a shot to the ribs and a black eye. What the...

    So i'm going to stop talking about it now.

    And brother Peter, like always Jazak-Allah khair for saying such nice things about me - but I hardly deserve anything you said, I only wish to be the dust beneath my beloved's feet. There are Muslims out there like brother Hudd who are much more deserving of such a ma'qaam.

    fi Amaan-Allah.

  2. Peter from USA

    My brothers: you are my brothers and sisters in Islam; fellow submitters to the will of Allah. That is all that is important. Brother Hudd, I totally understand your point of view, and agree with it, to a certain extent. I think that for Brother Akbar and myself, we are cautious about being pejorative regarding any reference to race. Inshallah, I hope that the white folk will wake up and join us, so to speak, but I don't think that they shall if we demonize them.

    Brother Hudd, please don't be disillusioned, I do indeed listen to you and take much more than maybe you think to heart (I really liked what you had to say once regarding animals being Muslims, for example). I may not always fully agree with you, but I most ceratinly pay attention and respect what you say. You are my elder in Islam and in life experience, you are very passionate and say what you think and believe. I repsect and admire that. Jazakallah! The world would be a better place if more people were so honest.

    But also, again, I must speak in defense of my good friend Akbar. My brothers, a better Muslim, you never met. Akbar is one of the kindest, gentlest, yet most devoted and knowledgeable persons I have ever met and been honored enough to call friend. He is no servant of the CIA or whatever, but is a good man who speaks his mind and heart and you cannot and should not fault him for that!

    A Salaamu Alaikum Jazakallah war Rahmatollah

  3. Hudd from Canada

    Akbar Khan, already brothers on this website told you that they thought you were a CIA or FBI agent. I doubt that... First of all, you like Peter and maybe others, didn't get my comment. I see that I need to get to level three to make understand simple concepts. I do not support either white or black discriptions when discussing Islamic issues. I said, "not all Caucasian are Whites, but all Whites are Caucasians". .. I have nothing against Caucasians, I am one, and my skin colour would go for British Royalty, so all your two-cents comment proves ... Pay attention to what I say and don't assume: A Muslim is above race. For police identification, however race has to be mentioned. Before, 'white' was used to describe a Caucasian of European descent. Today, more and more the term,'Caucasian' or 'European' is used. A sap would ask himself 'why?'. I would say, for the same reason you don't use the term 'nigger' to describe an Afro-American person. White was the slave owner, the Native-Americans murderer, the WASP(White Anglo-Saxon Protestant), the advocate for White Supremacy. Did you hear, Caucasian Supremacy? But you heard in USA, White Supremacy or Neo-Nazism and in the old world, Aryan and Arya Domination and Supremacy. That is the point Mr Akbar Khan, the self-imposed scholar and 'General Attorney'. It is an oxymoron to describe a Muslim Caucasian or a European Peace Activist as 'white'. Yes, the Europeans and Caucasians contributed to the development of the world we know today with all the facilities in it. The 'Whites' on the other hand, contributed to the mess we experience today, Third World, Economic Sanctions, Embargo, Imperialism, Colonialism and Neo-Colonialism. Why, how would you call the Rulers of India under British feet? All I said and still say is, 'white' is the bad Caucasian. Salam!

  4. Akbar Khan from Canada

    As Salaamu 'Alaiykum,

    From what I read from Peter's comments, nothing in it said anything about Nazi's or anything of that sort. Hudd, why do you even have to bring that up? What does Peter's information have to do with Nazi's in Germany? If you feel there is some sort of connection, please prove it.

    I find it very strange that you are putting so much emphasis on the word "white." What is it with you, why are you so obsessed with that word of brother Hudd? I'll tell you what, go grab a tissue paper, and discover white. If white people are white, they should look as white as tissue paper. If not, then forget it, "black people" aren't really black are they, they're dark brown of various shades of pigmentation, just like "white people" are. So why are you making such a big deal out of Peter's comments? Stop dabbling into these particulars. All he is trying to do is stop the generalizing comments about the Europeans who migrated to America, and their reasons for doing so. Some people may feel the same as the "nation of islam" and believe that the "white man is the devil." Well so be it, good luck to you. You on one end say that there is no differentiation of race or colour in Islam, that one is judged in rank solely on piety and humbleness, yet you openly declare all whites as bastards at the same time. How would you like if it I said, you behave like such a child (IN MY OPINION)?

    You are a grown man, Peter is a grown man, and so am I. Stop this junk about "All Whites, like Nazis are bastards(my opinion)," - this sort of attitude has NOTHING to do what Peter was trying to say. So stop superimposing your assumptions of Peter onto him. It doesn't do anyone any good to get into a rage filled frenzy if your version of events are not recognized by everyone. Why do you always have to go off on some sort of verbal road rage?

    Take it easy please.

    wa as salaamu 'alaiykum

  5. Hudd from Canada

    Peter, brother, I'm disillusioned. If you couldn't get my point after my lengthy answer to you, all I could add is this: Trying to make you understand my position is as futile as attempting to hatch a hard-boiled egg. I will not bother you any longer, brother, I wish you well!

    Peace and Happiness!

  6. Peter from USA

    Brother Hudd: I am sorry if you chose to be offended (or irritated) by my words. But I stand by what I said: 60% of all Americans came here through Ellis Island well after slavery was ended and the frontier was closed. Some of my grandparents were such people and they were good folk who never did harm to anyone. They just came here looking for work. I understand and agree that Islam is color blind, hence my statements: it isn't fair to generalize about anybody, whites, blacks, Muslims, Christians, Americans, whatever. One of the things that I like about Islam is its polyethnicity, but this very fact should underline that we shouldn't decry "white people" any more than we should decry anyone. That said, I really think we agree about things, Mr. Hudd, there is no need to be angry (as far as I'm concerned). Salaam.

  7. Bryan from USA

    My grand parents told me that my forefathers were pioneers who came here from England 300 years ago. They fought the Red Indians, the Spanish, enslaved blacks and even fought the British at some point. They also were smugglers in the prohibition era and even supplied booze to Chicago crime. Do I apologize for my relatives for the crimes they committed? No. They did it, not me. Do I think that the injustice to the Red Indians and Blacks was just a error in the US history, and won't be repeated? No. I think events similar to that will be repeated and being repeated. Look what all we are doing in Muslem countries. We are killing them by torture, beatings, hangings, burning, mutilations, bombings, chemical weapons - you name it we have used it there. We are the civilized race, of European descent, and thought that the halocaust was just a horrible mistake that could never ever happen again in Europe - Wrong. Events in Bosnia and Kosovo disproved that. I think all these so called wrongs to Red Indians, Blacks and Muslims were all deliberate. It was planned and organized. It was not a mistake. We were not just drunk when wiping out the Indians or lynching Blacks or murdering Muslems. We were sober as surgeons. Can I honestly say that I or we are a racist race? Yes. Was it wrong of us to do what we did? Absolutely. Will history repeat itself? Most certainly. What have we learnt form it all? Nothing. Not a damn thing.

  8. Hudd from Canada

    Peter you irritate me! I think we had this conversation before, about White and Caucasian. All Whites, like Nazis are bastards(my opinion), but not all Caucasians are Whites! Is this concept too hard for you to comprehend? Besides, since you claimed three distinctive ethnicities, Native American, European and Asian, you chose to advocate for what you feel mostly connected, the Whites! Good for you, you have the choice to be, Native American, Caucasian or Asian. You chose, White! What can I say? Congratulations, at least we know where you stand. I myself am in order of percentage, Caucasian(German-Lithuanian, Greek, Georgian), Middle-Eastern(Assyrian, Arab), Asian(Mongol, Volga-Tatar). Ask me, do I feel white? My answer is, Hell no! I am a Muslim. I have a motley background, who doesn't. I look white? Many Caucasians are white, I am not. How could you tell? Talk to me and in one second you will realize that I was as black as Malcolm X. You will think that you went blind or something seeing my skin as white when I think black! Yes, Islam is black and white and every colour God has created. In the moment I think that the white Caucasians are more endowed than other races and everything they did in the past is forgivable and quite excusable and I do not want this to be mentioned, yes then I will be a white dude. Peter, face it, the Europeans that came to the Americas and took power of the land, in majority were bastards. Like one could philosophy that not all the Nazis were bastards. Irregardless of what the Israelis are doing today to the Palestinians, they did not desearve to die in the manner Hitler or whoever, Himler, Mengele designed for them. Now tell a holocaust survivor that not all Nazis were bastards, see how he'll react! The same way with Mike, you can't tell him that not all whites were the bad. You could convince him that not all Caucasians were white, but he was not talking about Caucasians, was he? Peter you are free and encouraged to be white in the US!

  9. Peter from USA

    Mike and everyone: this is a very emotional issue; I am part Native American, but also have European and Asian blood as well. I really don't think it's a good idea to generalize about "the white man" in this way. What happened to African and Native Americans in this country is a tragedy of such immensity that it beggars the imagination to comprehend, and anyone who doubts that Shaitan is real or active in the world only needs to reference these two events for proof.

    That said, over 60% of the "white people" (whatever that means) in the USA are descended from immigrants that came to the US through Ellis Island at the turn of the century, well after slavery was abolished and the Western Frontier was closed. Most of these immigrants were poor and uneducated laborers that were looking for a better life and were in no way involved in the tragedies already named; indeed, they were in fact exploited and misused by those that they worked for. My own grandparents were among them, and they were good people that never did harm to anyone. So please, let's avoid throwing around hateful indictments against "white people" because if we do, what makes us any different from those who generalize against us?

  10. H.A. from Yathrib

    The small number of Zionists and "alcoholic" U.S. politicians have already begun destroying the United States....exactly as small number of Jews extremists and Romans mocked prophet Isa (PBUH). What a terrible miscalculation and illdeed by the transgressors!!!

    It's hard to believe the Americans do not see the similarities/connection even after 9/11,which occurred ONLY b/c of U.S. foreign policy...

    Good luck to her (USA) and also good luck to Iran, North Korea and Syria.

  11. MJordan from USA

    I really understand where Mikes coming from. As a black man and I don't want to be called "African-American", I am a black man of African heritage, and I urge all black men like me and Latinos who are in the US or UK armed forces to take a deep look at your history and know where you come from and what they did to you and your people, and in that knowledge, drop your weapons and leave all foreign lands we occupy. Go to Canada or any where, but don't diss the memory of your ancestors, who were dragged here in prison ships, chained like animals, many suffocated and died, a death worse than a dog. They were whipped, murdered, lynched, mutilated, all with the American man grinning in mobs. They even made these monsters senators, who designed laws, these monsters these murderers designing laws for me and you. Get out of there man, get out.

  12. Jan from usa

    Mike, Salaam, Peace!

    The situation and circumstances of Native Americans and Muslims in general are very different. In a very narrow sense, Dr. Mahathir, the ex-Prime Minister of Malaysia, talked about some parallel with the Malays in his book "The Malay Dilemma".

    Yet, I agree with you as far as "brain dead leaders" are concerned. Many of our leaders, have become the "Rand Robot" who have sold out for a quick buck or notoriety.

    But the main difference is that we have the Quran and the Sunnats of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and as long as we Muslims hold tight to the rope of Allah (God), we can overcome any ordeal or oppression, and rise up again for success in this world and the hereafter, insha'allah (God-willing).

    ISLAM is the key!

    Since you have shown some concerns for the Muslims and visited this Islamic website, please also check out the Quran and other books on Islam and who knows? Maybe like Malcolm X you could be the inspiration to your people.

    Thanks and best regards and wishes!

  13. Ismail from England

    Mike, a very intriguing reply you write.

    I am in a position right now where i cannot agree with you more, the europeans and americans have crossed all the lands to the non-white people and have called then infidels, hethens and then bring a masquerade of christianity, and eventually slip that by and bring their weaopans of war. Its such a shame for me to say that, i dont want to say white people, but history is evident in their role, OFcourse we can blame the egyptians and so on, but on a scale what the british and americans have done and are doing is shameful. im currently reading the autobio of Malcom-X, a man long misunderstood to be racist, but how silly such a thing would be to assume. He plays on truths which are bitter and sorrow. he says, ( during his life ) the white man hates the black man because everytime he looks into his eyes he feels guilty, a pain of knowing he is wrong so he hates him even more. He should get on his knees to the black man and beg for forgiveness for him, his people and to all the forefathers of the blacks who have suffered from the greatest crime in history. to bring 15 million black slaves, they killed 100 million on the way. o allah, is such a thing to carry on today?

    please, stop this, i wait for the day of justice but how painful are such things. the white man is not the devil, we have muslim white brothers,

    but whatever this inferior complex they have about themselves, allah mia please let them dissolve it, in themselves not in our tears.

  14. Hudd from Canada

    Mike, your comment was intense, God bless you man! It's not that Muslims don't fight. Native Americans fought the "white" man as well. You lost for exact those reasons you mentioned. It was possible because at that time you lived in isolation of the rest of the world. 1.5 billion Muslims are a world reality and they don't live in isolation. Considering these, I believe that in the end our numbers will be so significant that, they the "white" people would need to change before they blow their top off in their anger that they will become a "visible" minority in a colourful world, insha'allah(God willing).

    Peace!

  15. anonymous from America

    uh i definitly think who ever posted about white folks having a fork tounges is rediculously out of line. Please stop being immature and posting steriotypes, afganies should NOT have nuclear weapons.

  16. Mike from USA

    My people have said for 400 years, 'white man speaks witha forked tongue'. Every sigle treaty white Americans made with my people they broke. After massacring Indian men, women and children in various incidents and depriving us of our rightful lands, killing off our animals, displacing us, they then began a process of indoctrination, by forcing us to convert to Christianity and putting on the monkey suit which they regard as a symbol of a good Christian civilized values. Whatever land we were left with the Americans to this day never stop trying to grab these too, making way for Casinos, bars, strip joints and other "civilized" economic pursuits. Our brain dead leaders get bribed easily and enrich themselves with bribes from the US government and developers alike. What do we get for all this indignity, a dwindling race, high on booze, sniffing paint, doing drugs, a culture destroyed by the evils of the American white man and his ways. We were once a proud people, who roamed free and with honor. Now we wait for our government checks and other hand outs, which we use to buy more booze, gamble and pass out drunk and stoned at strip joints. Our women make stupid trinkets dishonoring our tribal dresses in posing for gawking white families and their clicking cameras and video cams. How I cringe when I hear, "look mamma, an Indian". We were once a strong, clean proud race until we were civilized by the white man. I am surprised the Moslems have not learnt from our mistakes and already not begun to prepare themselves for treachery and deciet. Never trust Americans, they will only bring on you death and destruction and ruin. Don't give in. I would fight to the bitter end, at least there is honor in that.