Religious Intolerance

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Recently Joseph Farrah wrote an article "Islamic double-standards" [1] (World Net Daily, January 22, '04). In this he again showed his bigotry against Muslims.[2] He is 'amazed' by Muslim protest over the French Hijab ban. He terms such protests as 'audacious' and 'Islamic double-standards.' In his opinion, Muslims should not 'speak of religious freedom;' how dare Muslims 'protest' about hijab ban in France when there is not a single church or a synagogue in Saudi Arabia? In his bluster against Muslims in general, and Saudi Arabia in particular, he fails to grasp the fact that church and synagogue require the presence of Christian and Jewish citizens in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia does not have non-Muslim citizens, just as the Vatican, the citadel of Catholicism, does not have non-Christian citizens. It is possible that when the Vatican shows the way by allowing a masjid in its territory, the Saudis would reciprocate. 

The temporary foreign workers working within Saudi Arabia do not pay any state tax either to the Saudi state. I wonder when was the last time Farrah visited any of the Arab states! How could he be oblivious of the fact that with the lone exception of Saudi Arabia, most of the states in the Arabian Peninsula, despite the absence of local Hindus and Christians, have temples and churches to cater to religious needs of foreign workers? 

Farrah claims that prayer by Christians and Jews is not permitted in the 'privacy of their own homes.' The fact is: non-Muslim foreign workers in Saudi Arabia have been performing their religious duties in the privacy of their homes and offices, including auditoriums and camps for many years. For instance, in places like Dhahran, they have been celebrating mass for years. [Just an inquiry with American service men working inside Saudi Arabia would show the fallacy of Farrah's allegation.]

Farrah's sweeping remarks against Muslim nation-states prove either his lamentable prejudice (something exemplified by other Christian fundamentalists like him) or crass ignorance. Saudi government is not alone in its banning of missionary activities within its territory, Yeltsin/Putin's Russia, for instance, does not allow activities of Christian denominations that are foreign to its homegrown groups.[3] 

On the other hand, in spite of the absence of indigenous Christians, Muslim governments do not bar foreign missionaries from opening churches. [Many missionaries, however, have misused the Muslim casualness as covers for their seditious and nefarious activities against their host nations. It is well known that many Mormons use their missionary activities overseas as covers for the CIA.] That is why there is hardly a Muslim country outside Saudi Arabia that does not have a Christian church. Just a visit to any of the Muslim nation states or a reading of late American missionary Stephen Zweimer's many works would have proven the mendacity in Farrah's statement.[4] 

Now let us look at the record of some western states that are seemingly professing 'secular humanism.' The Greek capital city of Athens does not have a single masjid, in spite of the fact that there are more than a hundred thousand Muslims (which includes many Greek Muslims) living there. Can Farrah explain, why the Muslims there are denied such basic rights? 

As to the presence of masajid in France, Britain, USA, Germany, Canada and some other western nations, the explanation is simple: all these states have millions of tax-paying resident Muslims (something that Farrah cannot claim for his co-religionists in Saudi Arabia). While most Muslim countries allow the ringing of church bells, which can be heard outside, there is an official ban on calling of the adhan outside the Muslim prayer room in all western countries, including the USA. 

Farrah claims that non-Muslims are fiercely persecuted for their faith in some Muslim countries. Religious freedom is a basic human right, something that is enshrined in the Qur'an nearly 14 centuries ago. It is because of this understanding that the non-Muslim population thrived under Islamic rule, something that was less probable, if not impossible, in medieval Europe for non-Christian population. Yet, in recent days, Muslim governments have sometimes failed in securing lives and properties of non-Muslims. The horrendous crimes of Bush-Blair or Modi-Advani or Milosevic-Karadzic or Putin or Sharon in killing thousands of innocent Muslims should not have been and cannot be taken as a cue to harming non-Muslims living amongst them. Most Muslims are very upset with the criminal activities of some miscreant elements living amongst them. Fortunately, these criminals are a very small minority. They are always caught and punished severely, often with capital punishment. 

But when was the last time that we heard about any serious offender of hate-crimes against Muslims/Arabs punished in the USA? I don't recall our ATF and FBI ever apprehending the criminals who blew up the million-dollar Yuba City masjid in California. The murderer(s) of Arab-American - Alex Odeh is (are) still not apprehended. Nor am I aware of any government compensation for the damage or destruction done to masajid in the western cities. (In contrast, at least, Pakistani government has paid handsome compensation to the Christian victims and has also swiftly arrested the criminals.) How about those government officials in the USA who spread hatred against Muslims and demonize Islam? 

There are more than 400,000 illegal immigrants living in the USA.[5] Why only visitors from Muslim nation-states were asked to register with the BICE (formerly INS), U.S.A.? In UK, 529 people were arrested under Terrorism Acts in Britain since 9/11, of which only 91 have been charged under it. Of those, less than 5 have been convicted. 17 foreign nationals (living in the UK) have been held without charge under emergency powers granted in 2001. [6]

According to Amnesty International, nearly 1,200 Muslims were arrested in the USA following the 2001 attacks but never charged with anything to do with terrorism. The vast majority were mistreated and denied their rights. About 6,000 foreign students were forced to register with the government because of their ethnicity. [7]

What about the detention of these hundreds of Muslims without charge brought against them? (I am excluding here the hundreds of foreign POWs, mostly Afghan/Taliban, now conveniently dubbed as enemy combatants, in the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, who have been denied the rights granted by the Geneva Convention.) As to those tried in recent days, the courts in Alexandria, VA, Lackwanna, NY and Portland, Ore., have issued sentences ranging from 3 to 18 years against Muslim defendants, who were not charged for plotting terrorist activities, but with supporting jihad by training for battle. In these three places a total 16 defendants entered guilty pleas, while 7 are challenging the government's charges. David Cole, a constitutional law expert at Georgetown University criticized the government's preemptive legal strategy as 'dubious.' "No longer are you held liable for your own wrongdoing but for your connection to a group, without the need to show any nexus between your activities and any illegal - much less terrorist - activities of that group," Cole said.[8] Here in the USA, we sometimes find a killer sentenced to less than 4 years, but look at the enormity of the sentence against these young Muslims - ranging up to 18 years for no crime committed yet, but on the assumption of 'could have committed.'[9] Why doesn't then Ashcroft lock up all the Christian Fundamentalists for their 'training' in the churches to become future warriors for the coming Armageddon - willing to fight as Messiah's lieutenants to slaughter all those billions who reject the Christ? What an abuse of judicial system! Where is the presumption of innocence until proven guilty? Obviously, that did not apply to these Muslims.

Why are most Muslim charity organizations clamped down? Why are Muslims living in the USA afraid to write checks for charity? Just the NPR news below (dated Feb. 16, '04), is enough to illustrate the witch-hunt, the religious and ethno-racial profiling, that is so unnervingly rampant in Bush-Ashcroft's America today. I was able to get the details from the [10] Daily Texan (Feb. 17, 2004), which states: 

"The organizer of an Islamic law conference at UT Law School is questioning whether ethnic discrimination brought a Special Agent for Army Intelligence to campus Monday. Special Agent Jason Treesh confronted students at the law school, demanding a list of people who attended a conference about women and Islamic law. The conference, Islam and the Law: The Question of Sexism, included speakers from around the nation and focused on the rights of women under Islamic law. Treesh would not comment about why he was at the law school, but his supervisor, Commander Demetria Marria, said Treesh was following procedure. Army Intelligence was investigating allegations of two Army personnel who attended the conference, Marria said. "They felt uncomfortable with foreign students or foreign members at the conference," Marria said. "Nothing is ever obvious. It's just that one question that doesn't sit right, so they report it, and we figure it out." Law student Liz Stephenson said she was intimidated when Treesh began questioning her and others in the office of the Texas Journal of Women and the Law."

The specter of suspicion against anything that has to do with Muslims or Islam is simply unbelievable. Even college and university campuses are not free from intrusion of U.S. intelligence agents to spy on Muslims! There are even campus-watch websites to report about activities of professors who are deemed sympathetic to Muslims or Arabs. Are we living in Stalin's America or in Abe Lincoln's America? Why should every Muslim be treated as a potential Mohammed Ata? Are not these signs of religious persecution? Are not Muslims being profiled for their religion?

For the attack on America by 19 hijackers, all foreigners on visitor visa to the USA, on the fateful day of 9/11, millions of Muslims living as minorities are now routinely harassed. Worse still, as alluded earlier, there seems to be government endorsement for such harassment against Muslims. In a clear reminiscent of the Dreyfus case, a number of Muslims, working for the US defense services, have recently been accused on various charges, including spying. James Yee, a Muslim chaplain in the Army, spent 76 days in a prison cell while authorities tried to build a capital espionage case against him. Commenting on the charges against Yee, John Fugh, a retired judge advocate general, said: "If he were a white American, say a chaplain of some other denomination, I don't think this would have happened." [11] The latest Muslim American in uniform to have been charged for spying for al-Qaida is National Guardsman Ryan Anderson (TV news, Feb. 12, 2004). Many Muslims are apprehensive of a witch-hunt in these cases. Are these preludes to justify further persecution of Muslim Americans here, and wanton killings of Muslims, including invasion of their lands elsewhere? 

And then there are so much negative stereotypes against Muslims that are now consistently fed through all the media outlets from newspapers and Internet to Radios, TVs and movies that these are enough to drive any Muslim into insomnia. 

How about those Christian pastors, the religious merchants, who sell hatred against Islam? For a trifling $25, one can purchase three audiotapes from Pastor John Hagee of the Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas, tapes of sermons that focus on "Allah and America." With an extra $20 one can buy the video version that shows the pastor raise the Qur'an high above his head as he cites chapter and verse, condemning the words of Allah. His audience includes 17,000 congregation members. What is the motif behind his sermon? Is it to bring to peace and reconciliation with Muslims? No. He sees his evangelical Christian Zionist church engaged in a spiritual war for survival against the demonic faith - Islam! "We are not a sister faith!" he yells over and over again as his congregants raise their arms and eyes up. What must they do to these wild hordes that "want to kill as many Americans as possible," that are developing "long range missiles," that have "suit case atomic bombs"? They must fight; "Victory must be our only objective!" "No relationship of any kind exists or can exist between Islam and Christianity," he roars. This counterfeit religion serves as Satan's means to present "a false path to Paradise" when Jesus is the "only way to heaven"; he alone is the one true God; "Christ is the only savior on the planet!" "Islam," he screams, "says Christ did not die on the cross and he is not divine." Oddly though, he does not censure Judaism for similar beliefs. Why? Because his Book of Revelation demands the existence of the Israeli state if the rapture is to follow. It requires that he support the Israeli state as God's means of fulfilling His prophecy. Ironically, Hagee does not tell public, especially to the Jewish community, that the consequences resulting from the fulfillment of Revelation's prophecies would save only 144,000 Jews leaving the remaining millions for slaughter.[12] Is it difficult to see where people like Gen. Boykin get their indoctrination from to hate Muslims? Imagine the dire impact of these powerful TV evangelists on the rest of America. But we won't see Barbara Walters of ABC TV talking about these preachers. Nor will Joe Farrah inform our readers.

How about bugging of phone lines of Muslims and monitoring of their masajid? Why are Muslims in this country (USA) hesitant to discuss politics over the phone, if there were no fear of religious persecution? The FBI has been monitoring activities inside masajid for more than four decades. For more than twenty years, agencies working for the U.S. national security have been taping conversations between people that contained words like 'Allah', 'Jihad,' etc. 

Where was religious tolerance in the last decade when we witnessed massacre of nearly half a million unarmed Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo and Chechnya in the hands of Serbian and Russian Orthodox Christian fanatics? What could be more grotesque than the fact that State authorities commissioned these genocidal activities? Not a single mosque in Bosnia, Kosovo and Chechnya was spared from wanton destruction. Tens of thousands of Muslim females were raped.

The decade-long Anglo-American embargo over Iraq was responsible for putting to death another half a million Iraqi infants. In their hunt for Saddam- and OBL-loyalists, Anglo-American forces have slain tens of thousands of civilian Muslims in last three years alone in Afghanistan and Iraq.[13] This number is several times the 2976 victims of 9/11 in America. 

Soon after 9/11 countless masajid and Islamic centers in America and other western nations were also vandalized by intolerant non-Muslims. Is Farrah aware of how many masajid have been damaged by Anglo-American firepower in Iraq and Afghanistan? Property is always replaceable but not human lives. What was the crime of all these Muslims? Why should they take the brunt of American attack? Western nations value the lives of their citizens, which is great. What about the Muslim victims of Bush-Blair crime? Libyan leader Gadhafi has recently paid ten million dollars per victim of the Lockerbie plane crash. While Bush and Blair portray themselves as repositories of Christian goodness and morality, the vanguards of 'civilized' West, how about making at least equal reparations by their respective governments to each victim of their murderous campaign in Afghanistan and Iraq? No, we won't see these poster boys of 'Christian West' to walk the talk. The crimes committed by western nations against Muslim nation states have simply no parallel, something that a Christian fundamentalist like Farrah would prefer to hush up.

Is it difficult to grasp the rage of some vengeful Muslims in Pakistan (some of whom could well be the relatives of those killed in Afghanistan) who lost their temper over such monumental crimes against their brethren and neighbors in trying to take revenge by attacking Christian churches? No, I don't condone such criminal activities against anyone. But I am aware of human weaknesses, their failings in sometimes subduing their lower instincts of anger and vengeance. 

The French official ban on hijab is criminally motivated. It has once again shown that France, like many European countries, has not still evolved into a genuine civilization that respects fundamental human rights of 'others,' that are willing to embrace pluralism or multi-culturalism. France can hide behind its 'secularism' but she can't obliterate its naked and ugly intolerance against Muslims.

A scrupulous scrutiny may show that while Muslim nation-states are not perfect, there is less hypocrisy there, and there is, in general, more religious freedom for minorities compared to what Muslims are granted in the West. But I am aware of the fact that no amount of eye-opening evidence would do any good to a schizophrenic person whose sole trade is to sell a toxic cocktail of hatred and lie. 

In the western world, 'anti-Semitism' is a crime but, alas, 'anti-Islam/Muslim' is a virtue. So, these preachers, pen pushers, publishers, prostitutes, pimps and pleaders for bigotry against Muslims and Islam are condoned and honored. Funny that those who often cry out foul with the spread of anti-Semitism are usually the worst offenders against Islam.


Dr. Habib Siddiqui lives in suburban Philadelphia, PA, and is the author of the book Islamic Wisdom. He can be reached at [email protected]

Notes:

2 - See this author's "Farrah's Lies and Distortion of Facts About Palestine."

3 - Saudi government does not allow even Tabligh Jamat to do their daw'ah activities.


4 - He was an American who co-founded a Christian missionary group "American Mission" to propagate Christianity among the Muslims in the late 18th and early 19th century. His travels took him to almost all the Muslim lands. He is an author of many books, which are used as guides by fellow missionaries before they embark upon their missionary activity amongst Muslims.

5 - The estimate was heard over NPR, February 17, 2004. Soon after 9/11, all non-resident/citizen Muslims were asked to register with the INS/BICE to verify their status in the USA. Fearing prolonged detention and ensuing abuse, many illegal immigrant Muslims chose to leave the country. Most of those reporting with illegal status were detained and later deported. Still there are a few hundred Arab Muslims detained in various detention camps, some with no charges yet brought against them. In the beginning, in order to hide its religious/ethnic profiling, BICE said that the registration would cover all foreign nationals. Now that all the Muslim non-residents have been accounted for, the registration process, rather conveniently or by design, has been halted for other non-Muslim nations. 

8 - The Philadelphia Inquirer: Engineer gets 10.5 years in terrorism case, Dec. 18, 2003.

9 - Compare the verdict with a recently concluded case. Catholic Bishop Thomas O'Brien, the former head of Arizona's largest Roman Catholic diocese, was recently convicted of felony for leaving the scene of an accident in which the car he was driving struck and killed a man as he crossed a street. The bishop faces anything from hours of volunteer service up to 45 months in prison. Two weeks before the accident, O'Brien negotiated an agreement in which he admitted that he had failed to report cases of sexual molestation by priests in his diocese and promised broad changes in diocesan hiring and assignment practices. In return, prosecutors agreed not to prosecute him on charges of failing to report sexual crimes by priests under his management. (Bishop Convicted in Fatal Hit-and-Run: Washington Post, Feb. 18, 2004; )

13 - Prof. Marc Harold, "A Dossier on Civilian Victims of United States' Aerial Bombing of Afghanistan: A Comprehensive Accounting," http://www.cursor.org/stories/civilian_deaths.htm; "Civilian deaths in 'noble' Iraq mission pass 10,000," Feb. 7, 2004, http://www.iraqbodycount.net/editorial_feb0704.htm#earlier; http://www.iraqbodycount.net/bodycount.htm


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Older Comments:
ZOSEPH said:
Would anyone dare debate me
2018-08-31

KEVIN FROM US said:
The Muslim religion is not peaceful, read the Koran and it has scriptures that promotes violence against others, Mohamad himself was not peaceful.
Jesus, is peaceful ...Read the bible.
2004-09-07

AL FROM UK said:
Excellent article. Nothing like the facts to get 3rd rate hacks and christian fanatics foaming at the mouth.
2004-03-14

YAHYA BERGUM FROM USA said:
Thanks (to Allah!) for the "lesson plan" Brother Ahmed Asgher! I am taking a closer look at the transliterated Arabic (wa jazak Allah khair).

Actually, my previous comment was meant for Amed Hagos (message 21820). Incidentally, he submitted the message using a spelling of "Ahmed" for his name. My thinking was that perhaps it was an exercise of caution on his part for one reason or another. May Allah assist him and his (Ameen).

Also, I think that Esther has genuine faith in God but is (unfortunately) blinded by "cultural" sensibilities. It is really quite unfortunate, in my opinion.

Assalamu alaikum.
2004-03-13

AHMED ASGHER FROM BAHRAIN said:
Dear Brother Zinedine

Thank you for enlightening us and that is what is truly needed here. I personally love Morocco and pray that one day I visit that great land and to see it wonderful people. Good to hear from you.

Dear Brother Yahya,

I am at peace with myself but ignorance must be confronted otherwise it spawns ignorance and God knows we need to enlighten people in the West of our true nature and religion, that is of peace and 'rahma'. I have witnessed such peace amongst many muslims in various countries. Not only towards myself but also towards non muslims. So, for someone like Esther to brand us all as blood-suckers is nothing short of EITHER utter ignorance OR hatred of truth. "fi quloobehum maradhun, fazadahum Allah maradhan".

BUT also understand brother Yahya, that I completely rely upon Allah and hand him all our problems for HE is the final savior and HE has a plan "assa an takrahu shai'an wa ho-wa khairun lakum".

In the end it is HE who we shall ALL face. No one gets out of here alive!!! including Esther, may we all be blessed before the departure day.
2004-03-13

ZINEDINE FROM MOROCCO said:
Jazaka Allahu khairan br. Ahmad Asgher for your response to aljahila Esther. I would like to give it to her straight to the brain.
It is necessary to correct a very common historical lie about the Moors that is believed to be the truth by ignorant people like Esther.
The Moors are nomadic people of the northern shores of Africa, originally the inhabitants of Morocco & Mauritania. They were chiefly of Berber and Arab origins. In the 8th century the Moors reverted to Islam and spread SW into Africa and NW into Spain. Under Tarik ibn Ziyad, they crossed to Gibraltar in 711 and destroyed the Visigothic kingdom of Roderick . They spread beyond the Pyrenees into France but were turned back at Tours by Charles Martel in 732.

Roderick is the last Visigoth king in Spain (710-711). After the death of King Witiza, a group of nobles chose Roderick, duke of Baetica, as successor to the king. Having defeated Witiza's son, Roderick established himself on the throne. Historians believe that Julian, governor of Ceuta, has either for political motives or because his daughter had been violated by Roderick joined the family of Witiza in requesting the help of the North African Muslims to overthrow Roderick. The Moors under Tarik ibn Ziyad crossed the Strait of Gibraltar to RESCUE the UNITARIANS and defeat Roderick and THE TRINITARIANS. Roderick and the Trinitarians who were campaigning in the north against the Franks and the Basques, hastened south only to be defeated in 711 by Tarik near Medina Sidonia. Roderick died in battle as a result and the Moors were welcome in Spain by the Unitarians. They never conquered Andalusia but went there on a rescue mission then later on established the best civilisation ever as this is the testimony of most prominent historians.

2004-03-11

HUDD D'ALHAMD FROM LAND OF THE GREAT NORTH said:
Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold your horses, all my Christian con-mortals! What in the world are you trying to debate? Whoever said that Saudi Arabia was the most democratic country in the world? It was said about USA! Saudi Arabia is a represive regime even for a fundamentalist like Osama bin Ladin! Are you people informed on what you are talking about, I mean all you people that disaggree? We are not discussing religious intolerance in the Middle East! Heellooo! We live here in North America! You relly lost your marbles in the 9/11 events guys. Everybody knows that Saudi Arabia is not a true Muslim government: let me educate you on Islam. You cannot have a monarchy in an Islamic Rule. You have a Khalifah. Saudi Arabia is the Arabia of Saud, as the name suggests. A true Islamic Arabia would be ruled by a Khalifa and would belong to the Muslims as an Uma. It doesn't. It belongs to the Saud self-proclaimed King. Saudi Arabia does not have religious tolerance toward different Islamic orientations. Saudi Arabia practices Wahabi Islam, a tribal sect. It happens that the greatest shrines in Islam are harboured in Arabia under the Saudi regime. The claim of the article is North America, namely, the Super Great Democracy, example to the world!! Now we want to compare the great US government to that of Saudi Arabia? You are joking?! Wait a minute! You are not creating here a double standard? No, you can't, you uphold democracy for all! Or the so called democracy is only for Christian whites, Jews and church going blacks? Muslims are not part of the picture? How would you call this if not double standard? Maybe, racism? Or fascism? Even better apartheit? If Saudi Arabia chopped off the heads of the Christian missionaries(it did not though), supposing, would the Americans do the same? Then why blame the Saudis or any represive regime over Muslims? By this analogy, USA would not be better than the most represive regimes. What's your argument then?
2004-03-11

YAHYA BERGUM FROM USA said:
Salaam Brother Amed. I have a "hunch" that more than a few "Abyssinian Christians" are in fact Muslims who are concealing their belief in the Qur'an and their conformance with the teachings of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). So why would I suspect this?

First, Ethiopian Christians I know have referred to their cuisine as being halal (not kosher).

Second, they seem somewhat "Muslim" and/or "Arab" in separation of the sexes among adults, observances at weddings and so on.

Third, I discovered quite by chance that one of them was known around his home as Ya-Ya (actual spelling unknown). Outside the home, he seemed to go by a traditionally Judeo-Christian name.

If there is a point to my comment, I think it would be that you should remain hopeful and patient -- insha'Allah -- a peaceful resolution clearly seems possible. Best wishes to you from me and may Allah bless you and yours (Ameen).

Brother Yahya
2004-03-11

AHMED ASGHER FROM BAHRAIN said:
Esther
You seem to be totally ruled by your own one-sided view. How can you be so ignorant as to judge more than a billion people by what happened more than 1300 years ago. Have you not heard of the Crusades? That was a little over 1000 years and from the reports of the Christians, one so-called pious priest proudly writes that the "blood of the infidel (meaning Muslims and Jews) ran to the knees in Jerusalem". If you want more please read from Karen Armastrong, an ex Christian nun who wrote 'The History of Jerusalem".

Also remember that those who live in galss houses should refrain from throwing stones. Take a close look at Israeli atrocities against innocent ethnic people, funded by so-called good Christians in the USA.

I leave you with one fact. Forget about the hsitory of antiquity, because it all depends on who wrote it as we are fully aware of such reportings!! Here is the fact: Over the last 100 years, what Muslim country has attacked the West or violated its borders? Yet we have American troops in every corner of the Middle East dominating us by force. Are you blind to such facts that are so glaringly obvious as to who wants to dominate who? Or do you belong to the Zionist creed that resorts to lies to further its nasty hatred of all races, even those who give it a helping hand.

Let there be peace with the mention of the name: Allah.

p.s. we have the 5th American Fleet stationed in Bahrain but I have never read of any reports that there are Arab soldiers roaming the streets of New York. If you can enlighten me, pls do so.
2004-03-10

DANA WAWANDA FROM INDONESIA said:
To : Nic Cameron,
I didn't mean to offen you but as a person who knew and experiences your govt dominations with its policies by hurting, disrespecting and insulting us with arogant that would be my first assumtion as I read the US history by Microsoft Encarta deluxe edition, maybe I didn't know much about Americans real life these days. So it's good for and the rest of Americans to aware about your goverment policies in the Asia and middle east regions, start choosing the right senator and president. And when you have seen all facts maybe you'll find why some of us really hate US Gov. ( if you really do a poll in Muslims country, you'll find that most of us do not hate american in person, even the most millitant or fundamentalist (borrowing western label) but we hate your ignorannce regarding your govt policies (double standard policy for instance). Once again no offence and thanks for your comments.


2004-03-10

AHMED FROM USA said:
Aselam Alekum Dr. :
It is good to see people like u to expose the lies
and hatred which is going against Islam and Muslims.
When I read the article it immediately touch my situation
back in in Ethiopia. I am a Muslim from Ethiopia. As u know
Ethiopia known around the world: for famine, war and Maraton.
One is not Known about Ethiopia. The oppression of Ethiopian Muslims.
The numbers of Muslims in Ethiopia 55% to 60%. However; their high percentage
nothing means for the Zionist Christian rulers. Infact they don't even consider
Ethiopia Muslims as the true Ethiopians. To go to my main subject writing this
e-mail is the position by the Christian fundamentals here in US or else if Muslims
want their rights respect first they have to build mosque in Saudi. This argument
we Ethiopian Muslims heard it many times. To give u an Example in Ethiopia,
province called Tigray in a city Axum Muslims there were living for generation.
and the city is known for its history of many kings. One of the Story of Muslim
migration from Medina to Abyssinia which is known in Islamic history. In this
city Muslims tried many times to build mosque they got denied the answer was
this is sacred Christian place like Saudi. They (Christians argue) if u allow is church
in Mecca or Medina we will allow you. We native people cannot practice what them
practice this totally subjugation and discrimination. Muslims in that still living induring
the many hardship they face. At one time the enemies went to the
local praying place which a house they burn the Quran and carpet.
Until this moment Muslims in Axum are not allowed to build a mosque.
They been told it is not the right time or we cannot build church in Saudi.
So, we let u do it here. Inshallah one time we will expose the lies and crime
which is happening in Ethiopia. If you need more info I will direct you to books
or supply u.
keep up the good work
Br. Amed Hagos
2004-03-10

ESTHER FROM USA said:
Akron you need to keep in mind that muslims want to control the world. Before European nations began thier colonial stage, muslims invaded Europe. This is first seen when muslims invaded Spain in 711 AD. Most muslim countries persicute Christians. Of course I will be fair and state that muslims also persicute people that are not Christians.
2004-03-09

ALI FROM SWEDEN said:
A/aleykum,Masha-allah nice job dr.Siddiqui,to br A/hakim grow up,dunia jannatul kufar,are u in the group of people seeing western is The paradise?
2004-03-09

AHMED FROM UK said:
Akron, Muslims have always condemned injustice, unlike 3rd rate hypocrites and liars like yourself who selectively point to such issues when its in your interest, ofcourse.
Whether you "see" it or not, isnt our problem. I personally have no interest in reassuring christian fanatics and whores for zionism for anything. Clear up the cesspool that is your backyard before daring to lecturing others on anything.
2004-03-09

YAHYA BERGUM FROM USA said:
Calm yourself, akron. I for one quite frequently speak out against Muslim violence against non-Muslims (and Muslims, also). If you don't believe me, perhaps consider reading comment 21606, submitted previously in response to this article. Now, if you're looking for a Muslim who would renounce the slaughter of innocents, whether by Muslims or anyone else, then God willing I'm your man. If on the other hand you are looking for a Muslim to support your efforts to establish a "Christian beachhead" within the Saudi kingdom then know that I am disinclined to assist you.

Also, I'm sorry to hear about your relative's problems at the hands of the Saudi authorities. Perhaps your relative should have been more careful in inviting only Christians to the prayer meeting. The fact is that there are many Christians who would never be satisfied unless Allah's choice for my religion was the same as Allah's (i.e., God's) choice for their religion. Perhaps they should be careful what they wish for. It remains my wish, however, that you receive Allah's peace!

[Qur'an 22:40] ...And had there not been Allah's repelling some people by others, certainly there would have been pulled down cloisters and churches and synagogues and mosques in which Allah's name is much remembered; and surely Allah will help him who helps His cause...
2004-03-09

JKLF FROM UK said:
Excellent article. Muslims are guilty of showing far too much tolerance towards Christian fanatics who've openly declared a war of terror, a crusade if you will. Christian charities, organizations which work in promoting such evil should be thrown out in a most unceremonious fashion.
Dont delude yourselves boys, the end result will be the same, a humiliating defeat worthy of your ancestors type.
2004-03-09

AHMED ASGHER FROM BAHRAIN said:
To Mr. Ward

Yathrib is the old name for the city of Medina in Saudi Arabia, the final resting place for Prophet Mohammad pbuh.

The Arabs at that time called it Medinat Al-Nabi, meaning the City of The Prophet, since Prophet Mohammad made his home there. Thus shortened to Medina with Yathrib relegated to history.

It is indeed good manner to discuss with knowledge and wisdom with one's foe or friend, especially in topics that touch our heart and passion for as humans we tend to be ruled by our emotions when the subject deeply touches our soul.

Thus Allah advises HIS Prophet: "wa la takoonu fadhan ghaleedh alqalb fa yanfaroo mink" = And do not be one with a hard heart because they will run away from you - (instead of being attracted to you). In another place: "wa jadeloohum bi alati hia ahsan" = And discuss with them in the best manner that makes you better than them.

Please understand these are not exact translations of the Quran but since I speak Arabic and English, I just translate it from my head since most Muslims know some Quran by heart and The Hafez is the one who learns ALL the Quran by heart. Yet for a more formal English translation one can refer to Yousuf Ali for example.
I may not be following the set protocol of quoting the formal translation and giving you the actual references. I dare say some of my brothers/sisters may criticise me for that but it does convey the message and spirit of Islam in that it is a language of reason, understanding, wisdom and love of UNITY. The whole purpose of coming of Islam in Arabia was to unite the various Arabian tribes under one banner AND to bring unity between those Arabs (Muslims) and Christians and Jews and by deduction all other sects and religions under the ONE banner of the ONE God. The ONE Creator. A dream you might ask? But Muslims see a great common sense in this. This universe is not run by a hundred gods? It would not last a second.

Yet the Quran also challenges our intellect
2004-03-09

AKRON FROM USA said:
You people have such amazing double standards with excuses for everything. I am a christian and I don't condone french actions against a religions group. On the same grounds I don't see muslims speaking out against religeous introlerences against christians? I for one had a relative imprisoned in saudi arabia for bringing a bible in and holding a prayer at his house. Anyone want to look at the human rights violations in saudi arabia against christains? Look at the humarn rights web sites. Anyone want to discuss attacks against christians in pakistan? Where are you people hiding and what are you condoning by your words? I for one do NOT like christian evangalists saying bad things against islam. This is what really upsets me with all muslims. It is the so called DOUBLE STANDARDS that you all bring to this table.
2004-03-09

CHRISTOPHER WARD FROM USA said:
To H.A. It is very sad and disheartening to see someone like H.A. be so mean and angry. You cannot intellecutalize everything. If you do not agree with abdulla hakim (I thinks this was his name) you should just politely disagree even if he is venomous toward you. You will never win people over with anger and force. If you do not believe me ask the Iraeli goverment or the Palestinians. There will never be peace with anger. I have read most of your comments and it is apparent you take delight in trying to make those, who do not hold your opinion, to seem like idiots. Whether they are an idiot or not it is not the correct way to treat people. You should not due unto others as they due unto you but due unto them as you would want done to them. And also, I was under the impression that Islam thinks all people are equal or has a great tradition of equality. It does not seem coherent to say white europeans are the lowest creatures on the earth.

Just curious, where is Yathrib?
2004-03-08

ZINEDINE FROM MOROCCO said:
Salaam brothers & sisters how are you doing David Stone or shall I say Stonehead instead bcs of your blant animosity towards Islam. David is a beautiful name & I know you don't deserve to be called David bcs prophet David (pbuh)is Muslim & you're anti-Muslim. To respond to some of your assumptions about Islam as you stated in partly incorrect statements:" In Muslim countries other than Saudi Arabia, converting from Islam to any other religion is punishable by _death_...in theory, and sometimes in practice. In _no_ country outside of the Muslim world is there a similar law." I say that may be the case in Saudi Arabia but not in many Muslim countries. In Morocco for instance, Jews are treated better than us Muslims. I am Moroccan Muslim so don't generalise & implicate my country in your false statements because I will expose you. In Morocco, Turkey & Tunisia, there are Muslims who converted to Christianity & faced no persecutions. I am not defending all Muslim countries but I personally think that conversion to Christianity etc should not be tolerated in Muslim countries for one simple reason: Our nation states are too weak to handle potential traitors & spies. When our nation states become as powerful & as influential as Western European nations,Japan,Australia & North America then I wouldn't worry too much about divisions, negative conversions & sectarianism. There was one case when the greatest man in history that is the prophet of mercy & the messenger of hope, Mohammad (pbuh) executed one convert & spared the lives of other converts because that convert was a traitor & a spy that helped the enemies of Allah (swt) attack and kill some of the Sahaba, the prophet's companions.
Although, Saudi Arabia is a corrupt nation state so is Morocco, it is still way cleaner than the USA. SA should be restricted to Muslims only; the most dangerous book in the world: the Bible should not be allowed in like the city state of the Vatican is restricted to Christians only.
2004-03-08

ASIF KHAN FROM USA said:
Asalamu Alaikum

Excellent article.
Muslims should be aware of these things that the writer has pointed out so that we may refute those that make these fallacious commnents.

asifk
2004-03-08

ATHAR HUSAIN FROM INDIA said:
it is not about churches or synagogues it is about selective democratisation and enforcement of rule of law by international order[with only anglosaxon and zionist content]where islam is instrument of hate to work as tool for such enforcement and by such ORDER.
2004-03-07

MOBY FROM USA said:
I just wanted to say that unlike the French government, the Saudi's do not claim the kingdom to be a so called secular state.
Its actually the French and other E.U. countries whose double standards have been revealed by this incident.
2004-03-07

SYED FROM U.A.E. said:
It is the duty of every muslim to voice concern and defend Islam.Most important is to explain about Islam to non muslims friends neighbours co-workers where ever we live and work. Only frozen minds do not understand the virtues of Islam and peace message it conveys. Also mostly muslims have to be blamed for this as they are afraid to defend Islam.
To defend Islam we should know about our own religion and practice it.
Lack of knowledge about our own religion make most western and European muslims to be pessimistic and at time side with the guy who views are negative.
As for scarf decision it is not surprising.These are very people who butchered thousands of muslims in their own country and in Algeria.
Current generation and the comming generation should be prepared with the history what is in store for them in the so called civlised world if they want to be there.
My appeal to muslims is that you know your religion and practice, build your reliance on Allah.
Then Allah The Pure and Perfect will give you strength to preach Islam and also to defend it.
We are not allowed to hate any person based on their religion.Our foremost duty is to invite them towards Islam remove misgiving and let them know Allah better.
All that is happeneing with us is because we have moved away form the basic belief. Build this belif and enjoy the furites of Islam.
May Allah forgive us all.
2004-03-07

ANEESA FROM SOUTH AFRICA said:
To Abdullah Hakim:

What!!!!???!! By gad, I'd actually laugh, if your attempt at rational thought were not so pathetic!

Of course, I understand where you're coming from. Too much Heinekin beer got to your head, huh? Or maybe you cracked your skull and lost your senses when you fell off your surfboard in Miami?

ONE: I didn't know that US hospitality included bombing 3rd world nations to hell and back and paying slave-wages to poor Asian peasants who earn a living sewing Nike t-shirts..
TWO: The US alone sees approximately 20000 converts to Islam per annum to this day. Islam is still the fastest growing religion in the world.
THREE: I have seen and heard enough to know that most Muslims condemn what happened on 9-11. Where do you live by way, Siberia?
FOUR: We do not want respect and glory, but what Muslims desire is a right to self-determination. What has the US contributed except fatty fast foods and tacky Hollywood flicks? What about Europe, the motherland of the worst two world wars?
FIVE: Jihad not 'Jehad', you ignorant dope, means 'to strive', not to chop off heads as you are suggesting.
SIX: WE MUSLIMS are fed up with the hostility against us that appears on our tv sets everytime we watch a stereotypical American flick about Arabs and Muslims. You know the subtle crap: "(Sob, sob-more tears):Help, I'm a Muslim women in distress wishing for America to save me." Oh, and by the way, I am a Muslim woman and find that boring little line quite annoying.

AND LASTLY: YOU ARE NOTHING BUT AN IGNORANT PLEBIAN (PLEASE REFER TO SHAKESPEARE'S LITERARY WORKS FOR A TRANSLATION) WHO IS AS FAR AWAY FROM REALITY AS THE EARTH IS AWAY FROM THE MOON. PLEASE GET AN EDUCATION AND SOME INTELLECT. PERSONALLY I FIND THE IDEA OF HAVING TO TELL YOU THIS VERY TEDIOUS BUT AS YOUR MUSLIM SISTER ALL THE WAY FROM SUNNY SOUTH AFRICA, IT IS MY RELIGIOUS DUTY TO INFORM YOU THAT YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE AND STOP THIS SORRY ATTEMPT AT ITELLECTUAL BABBLE.
SALAAMS
MAY
2004-03-06

ALEX GOWES FROM USA said:
The comment about the Vatican is ludicrous. The Vatican is little more in size than a few acres of property. To compare the absence of a mosque in the Vatican with the lack of any non-Muslim churches, temples, or synagogues in the whole of Saudi Arabia is nonsense. Personally, I wish that President Bush had taken a left turn on entering Iraq and taken over the Saudi fascist state.
2004-03-06

ZAHEER AHMAD FROM CANADA said:
And their shouldnt be a single Church or Synagogue in Saudi Arabia. This is the land of Islam the chosen prefected religion for mankind, so why have anything less.
2004-03-06

CHRISTOPHER WARD FROM USA said:
I am sure if the non-muslim forgein workers in Saudi Arabia were allowed to build a church or temple they would do so. That they are not citizens does not mean they should not be allowed to have a public place of worship. They are not allowed to have public worship in the arabian peninsula because it is forbidden in the Quran. The comparison with Vatican city is not valid because the Vatican city and Saudi Arabia are not comparable. A better comparison would be the Vatican city and Mecca/Medina. The Vatican City is such a small state it is hard to find an equivalent. But I would agree that no mosques in the Vatican city and no other religious institutions in Mecca/Medina would be fair.
The reason people from Muslim countries are required to register is because more than 90% of the world conflicts today involve muslim people and most of the terrorism today stems from these conflicts. I think all forgein nationals should have to register or at the minimum those who are from a country involved in conflict be it muslim or nonmuslim. Any religious group that is training members for religious violence be it christain or muslim should be shut down. This should include those that aid them or train with them. That one would do either of these things shows their lack of sense. Ethno racial profiling can lead to trouble but as most countries do not have unlimited resources you have to play the odds. If most terrorist acts involve one group of people then looking at that group is not unbelievable, it is very sensible. The majority in this group (probably >98%) are innocent but unfortunately I am not sure of a better way but would love to hear one. If the 98% rooted out the 2% it would make this job much easier. Every muslim should NOT be viewed as a potential Mohammad Ata. On the issue of sister faiths we must agree to diagree. Everytime someone does something against Islam it should not be viewed as discrimination or bigotry. People are too sensitive.
2004-03-06

BRYAN FROM US said:
I'll agree mainly because there's a guy with a fake name (abdullah hakim), and a guy who views other religions as a threat (Stone). But it's a pretty good article overall, a lot of things are hidden, mainly because the special interest groups are controlling everyhting.
2004-03-06

RAYHAN FROM USA said:
It is about time people at ISNA and ICNA and CAIR started speaking like this and writing like this respected Dr. Habib. A very well written article.
2004-03-06

ALI FROM USA said:
Dr. Habib Siddiqui, is this a joke? It is obvious that forcing women to wear a hijab or not to wear one are both against ones religious freedom. To say that every citizen of Saudi Arabia is muslim is "crazy". Im sure that there are a few who want to convert to another religion but wont because they will have to face certain death. P.S. I am completely against the ban on hijabs... khoda hafez, ali
2004-03-06

LAILA SHAMS FROM USA said:
A great article for all of us to think and ponder! I think facts are there, hidden behind the smog of so called western values ! Why the muslims took so long to discover the motives of the "Merchants of death"? Of course muslims are gullible and that's why when westerners got to there shores with hypocritical smile and honeycombed words of values, little they knew what to come for next hundred years! The dark European middle age, two world wars,rise of fascism, atom bombs, aethism, communism, new world worder and now terrorism to bash a religion ! Yes, Selukos ! how strange is the ingenius western mind set! wake up muslims from your slumber ! Watch out for the namesakes amongst us who's name or look may sound like one of us but they are the mental slaves and contractors of western death merchants! Otherwise how would you explain the perpetuation of falsification, injustice and oppression of majority "peace(Islam)" seekers by the few of hate mongerers.
2004-03-06

TIM FROM USA said:
Dear Sir, Why are Muslim countries never in peace?Pakistan,Iraq,Iran,etc. Why do Muslims never integrate with the mainstream society? Why do Muslims take up arms? The Babri Majid in India was a non-functioning mosque before the controversy. Why can't you allow a Hindu temple in the land of Hindus at their most sacred place?
My Bible was thrown away by customs infront of my eyes at Saudi Arabia airport. Why cannot I carry Bible into Saudi Arabia if I am not an American citizen? Why do Muslims insist in eating beef in India, when the Hindus consider cow holy? Why cannot Muslims live in peace with their non-Muslim neighbors? Why do Muslim sites talk more about authenticity of Quran and less about love for mankind and love for Muslims in trouble?Why did Muslim nations allow a dictator like Saddam to continue in Iraq? Didn't you carry about your fellow Muslims living in fear in Iraq? Why do we find Muslims in India & US betraying their own country? Why have you started aping Christian Missionaries in promoting your own religion?
2004-03-06

MUHAMMAD FROM USA said:
excellent, although I do not agree 100%.
2004-03-06

YAHYA BERGUM FROM USA said:
Well perhaps if more Muslims in America were candid, in advance, about their efforts to bring increase to their nations of origin then perhaps less Muslims in America would have all that much to complain about -- at least in regard to the actions of certain federal law enforcement agencies. Perhaps.
2004-03-06

AHMED FROM UK said:
A superb article. It comes with the territory, Joe Farah is a supporter of terrorism so his "opinions" arent difficult to ascertain. He is associated with Maronite Christian terrorists who did Israel's bidding in Southern Lebanon before they were vanquished by the heroic Lebanese resistance.
To even answer this third rate hack is give him the attention he so desperately craves.
Muslim nations have been far too lax in protecting themselves from terrorists, whether they be invading troops or self described holy men preaching trithiesm. Its time take out the trash, Christian groups, especially those tied to evangellical terrorists who preach war against the Islamic world, should be expelled immedietly.
Showing tolerance to such vermin is nothing short of profound ignorance and stupidity.
2004-03-05

RONNI FROM USA said:
How is that people like this author are able to post ludicrous statements in their articles? No Christians in Saudi Arabia??? The statistics say otherwise: http://www.library.uu.nl/wesp/populstat/Asia/saudiarg.htm
2004-03-05

MURAD FROM U.S.A said:
I think more Muslims should be active in defending thier religion against attacks by Christian evanglists and anti-Islamic book writers.

One note I wanted to make: Muslims HAVE made a significant contribution to the United States since its existence. Let's not forget that many Muslim slaves from Africa were sent to the United States and labored. This is yet another misperception of "Muslims are Arabs".

People, Arabs only consistute 18% of Muslims worldwide. I suggest you keep that in mind.
2004-03-05

ZINEDINE FROM MOROCCO said:
Salaam Dana & H.A & Dr Siddiqui,

I am too busy to waste my time on you Abdul Hakim. You must be honored that Dana & H.A spent their valuable time on you. Btw: your name is an insult to HIKMA. We should call you: Abdul Albaleed meaning slave of the one that is dumb because you are too dumb for us to waste our time on you! H.A may be too harsh on you but he is right in a way because you sound self incremating and a real bubblehead!!!
2004-03-05

MARIA FROM USA said:
Hello There,

I was a Catholic but converted in November of 2003. As for my comment, I'm speechless...It's about time some stood up and say it like it is. May Allah bless your heart? I only wish we had more people like you.
2004-03-05

AAFREEN FROM UK said:
aa, absolutely excellent article.
Judging by this Abdul's Hakim's comments esp his comments on jihad i think he must be an Ahmadi they frequently make such pro-west and anti-jihad comments. Also as for his incorrect assertion that no Muslims condemned 9/11 i think he should check his facts before making such ignorant comments. http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

ws
2004-03-05

ABDUL AZEEZ FROM USA said:
Someone should educate people like Mr. Abdullah Hakim and Mr. M. Abdullah about American Govt.'s racial discrimination against Muslims living in America and how government agents/attornies force those innocent victims to plead guilty.

There are lot of muslims under detention for years without any charge against them. They are forced to plead guilty and accept lesser term (3-10 years) or face 50, 100 years jail term.

Can you believe this? People like you won't believe until you see it.

2004-03-05

SID ALMOND FROM US said:
'Muslims were doing well here before 9/11' says Mr Hakim. Doing what ... ? May I ask O Wise Man (Hakeem).
2004-03-05

JABIN FROM CANADA said:
Br. Habib Siddiqui makes very valid and thought-provoking points that, once, pondered upon, should make us realize, it is time to let our voices and actions be heard!
2004-03-05

CINDY FROM US said:
I justed wanted to thank you, Dr. Habib Siddiqui for taking the time to respond to these hateful charges against Islam. Sometimes, it feels as if our voices of reason are drowned out by the hate filled speech of 'civilized persons and governments' but I pray you will continue responding.
2004-03-05

V PRINSEP FROM USA said:
H.A. asks
1. WHat did Europe contribute to the world 900 yrs ago?
- So this is your counter to the argument that the ME hasn't contributed in the last 750 years? His argument is that there have been no advancements from the mid 1250's to now, and the best you can come up with is 'what did Europe do 900 years ago'? You would seem smarter if you said nothing.


2. What did America contribute to the world 60 yrs ago?
- 60 years ago, lets see, that would put us at 1944. Hmmm... what was America doing in 1944? Oh yeah, defeating the Nazi's, continuing to ramp up massive industrialization, going through a period of exceptional innovation and invention... What was your point again?

H.A. writes - "He is really making himself stupid. Doesn't the know the world history?"
- Wow, you think *he's* making himself look stupid!

3. Does Sir Hakim know that if someone from the Middle East 1000 years takes the screw off his computer, he would not be able post comment on the internet and the WEST will be returned back into its cave?
- Do you know that if it hadn't been for innovation by the WEST, as well as the FAR EAST, strangely skipping the MIDDLE EAST, your computer wouldn't have been invented or built, making your silly little comment irrelevant?

Do you actually understand what you write, or do you just sit down at a computer and start typing whatever comes into your head?
2004-03-05

MUSHTAQ FROM U.S.A said:
assalaam alekum

it has been a long time since i read an article which clearly clarifies between what is wrong and what is right of current situations thanks a lot dr habib siddiqui for turning lights on in a dark room. and dr habib if you ever get time please write the article about the murders that america has commited on its own people and others since the discovery of america from the killings of american indians to the killings of the palestinians, from slavery to the discrimination,from sanctions to the violations,

any body who thinks america is always right and does right should know that he/she is for sure blind did you get it blind.since the past 200 years millions of people have been killed in the name of democracy from the civil war to war in iraq. natural disasters are less devastating than the bombs created by our civilized americans i am not saying that i hate america or america is always bad what i want to say is america has done more bad than good. for example,what is the meaning of democracy yes it is the government by the people not government by the majority or minority what i mean is when america says every body is equal than why women is not elected as president?there have been 43 presidents since 1789 all male is this equal right or discrimination? dont make silly exuces.

there is a lot to talk about this wonderful country or civilization in my view it is one of the worst civilization i have ever seen or read about not in terms of technolgy,science but in terms of laws,human rights,equal rights, safety,security,freedom etc one of the best in corruption.

what america need now is brave heroes like those who gave up there lives for just rights such as washington,lincoln,kennedy,luther king and countless americans the real americans.

if there were any misspell words please forgive me i tried my best.

thanks alot dr habib for motivation
and may allah bless every continent,country,people,nation, not just america .
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2004-03-05

DAVID STONE FROM USA said:
The comparison between the Vatican and Saudi Arabia is completely bogus. Anyone who makes such a comparison is either intellectually dishonest or not very intelligent.

The Vatican is a nation as a formality only. It is the size of a few city blocks and has a few hundred residents. Saudi Arabia is a real country, huge, with many millions of residents. If Saudi Arabia wanted to declare a tiny area immediately around the Ka'aba as Muslim-only, nobody would object to that.

In Muslim countries other than Saudi Arabia, converting from Islam to any other religion is punishable by _death_...in theory, and sometimes in practice. In _no_ country outside of the Muslim world is there a similar law.

You cannot seriously pretend that the Muslim world has anything to teach the West about religious tolerance. Nothing. Many hundreds of years ago maybe, but not in the present era.

As a Westerner, I can say that I do view Islam as a threat to my values and way of life. I oppose it.
2004-03-05

ROGER SMITH FROM CANADA said:
Dear Sir, Dr. Habib Siddiqui - the writer of this aritcle. With due respect I do not agree with your information "Muslims caused 9-11" where is the evidence, where is the proof? It is funny that a man like Osama living in exile in the cave done a horendous act now paying by the blood of muslim. Stupid. It is Mossad the Israeli army did it, to justify the act to muslims in Palestinian people. Funny though most of the muslims believe that. Wake up muslims look at your rich history and educate yourself, did not you read in the Quaran the first word of God, IQRA = Read, you guys are not reading nowadays, thatwhy you got problem.
2004-03-05

ABDALLAH FROM RUSSIA said:
Good article, keep it up! In reply to M Abdalla: could you cite the sources plz. I hear of these rules for the first time, except Jizya, which is a tax, and taxes are still to be paid by all. If what you wrote was indeed introduced about 1400 years ago, then these are the most liberal rules, for at least a thousand years after their introduction (compare with inquisition for example).
2004-03-05

YAHYA BERGUM FROM USA said:
Joseph who?? Seriously however the article is brilliant (in my opinion) if perhaps just a wee bit intolerant itself. Mormon missionaries fronting for the CIA? The United States Department of Justice protecting perpetrators of violence against Muslim Americans?

And do I detect defensiveness on behalf of those who intentionally murder innocents in Muslim lands during remembrance of our Lord? (Of course anyone who would murder pilgrims in front of the Kaaba in 1979 CE might perhaps not be troubled by such actions. And yes I do consider myself to be a Salafi. In fact I learned of the incident on the evening I came to consider myself to be a Salafi. Soon after embracing Islam it was that I learned of it.) Perhaps consider reviewing Qur'an 22:40 -- I seek refuge in Allah from the accursed Satan.

Granted I can hardly imagine anyone sounding any more intolerant than the individual upon whom the author has focused our attention (and may such individuals choose to receive their Lord's peace). On the whole I would say that the article is quite commendable. Well done! And peace!
2004-03-05

NICK CAMERON FROM UNITED STATES said:
Dana, please do not assume that all Americans who aren't indigenous are "great great great grantchilds of the robbers". Like many Americans, my ancestors had nothing to do with the atrocities committed by early settlers. In fact, while these things were occuring my ancestors were living in Asia as well.

Unfortunately, many people in Asia seem to still be under the impression that the only Americans are white. I remember when I lived abroad, the people there could not understand that America is a land of immigrants from many different countries, including Asia.

I hope that others learn the truth about my country.
2004-03-05

MARIANNE NASHED FROM US said:
A very nice and through article that beautifully illustrates the plight of the American Muslims and dissects the unholy arguments of the greatest anti-Muslim Lebanese Arab of our age. I am a Lebanese Muslim woman, and I feel that Farrah is a pitiful man loaded with animosity against the Muslims. Dr. Siddiqui would be better served if he'd ignore this brazen crass and saved his energy to more forcefully argue against the double standard policies of the Bush/Cheney gov't.

Thank You.
2004-03-05

SUHAYB FROM CANADA said:
yeah good article. France is intellectually very weak. They are very good at convincing themselves otherwise though... the ban of hijab in public schools is typical of their way of dealing with religion. they ARE collectively anti-semitic and they ARE collectively anti-muslim NO DOUBT.
2004-03-05

DANA FROM INDONESIA said:
Salam Abdul hakim,

Well I guess you have a very wrong assumtion with americans or other western countries, the native Americans are Indians and the one who lives in America now is just the great great great grantchilds of the robbers ( but I respect Americans as the way they are right now) they came in to this lands with nothing by killing Indians.
We who lives in Asia knew much better how they behaviors. Europe got rich by robbing Africa and Asia source. And for more than 7 centuries Islam ruled Muslim, Jews and Cristians peacefully with Khilafah. We taught them the math, physics, biology,chemistry and how to live with humanity but then they used it to destroy Islam in any ways and have you seen their way of life? and compare with Islam? so please (abdul hakim) don't preach me about Jihad or else we know much better than you, we've seen their war, their politics and how western troops raped and killed our familly. it's true what Allah says in Qur'an. the disbelievers won't stop till we follow them ( the way of their life, their think, their idology). My advice is please read Qur'an and Hadeets very closely. but don't judging us as illiterate and venomouse. This stupid campaign is spread by Evangelists(they even couldn't memorize all their bible) and it's too bad that you bought it!
2004-03-05

H.A. FROM YATHRIB said:
I think it is time someone tie Sir Hakim up and take him to Palestine and make him see the evil doings of America. Then his bragging about the WEST and America will evaporate with the blink of an eye. Just ask people who have been to there!!!

It is amazing that he even does not know that the real Americans are living in concentration camps in the USA. They have no voice and they are being sileneced with the gov't's evil plottings
quote 2:
"....5. MUSLIMS ARE THE FIRST IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY TO BE SEEN BY AMERICANS AS NOT HAVING THE WELFARE OF THE HOST COUNTRY AT HEART. PREVIOUS GENERATIONS OF IMMIGRANTS BUILT AMERICA..."

- Man!!! He, Sir Hakim, is really drunk! There are 30,000 Muslim doctors in America and if one calculates the ratio: # of Muslims doctors/total Muslims in America, the Muslims are on the top. Forget about Muslims in other occupations.
Quote3:
"...MUSLIM IMMIGRANTS HAVE NOT COME TO AMERICA TO COMMIT JEHAD AGAINS THE HOST COUNTRY THAT HAS WELCOMED THEM..."
- Any country/gov't/leaders/parents/individual that commit evil and oppress other human beings, the TRUE Muslims must stand up to the oppressors! Even if the gov't (the oppressor) takes away the RED lobsters from your dinner plate. IT's very simple! Sir Hakim reallly needs to learn Islam.
Quote 4:
"...THE AMERICAN PUBLIC FEEL THREATENED BY THE HOSTILITY AND SPREAD OF THESE IMMIGRANTS AND THE FBI AND CIA HAS TO RESPOND TO AVOID CRITICISM..."

- When did the WHITE European Americans/REDNECKS/the lowest creatures on Earth NOT felt threatened by immigrants! First, they hated the Native Americans, then enslaved African Americans and still discriminating against them at every level. Does he ever wonder why America still does not have black presdent? After all it's the blacks who built America. Then started to hate Chineese, Japanese (JAPS), Irish, Jews and even themsleves....
Sir Hakim!! FOR GOD'S SAKE STOP being STUPID. God does not ONLY bless AMERICA.. Stay away from the RE
2004-03-05

HUDD D'ALHAMD FROM LAND OF THE GREAT NORTH said:
Mr. Abdullah Hakim, what the hell are you talking about? If somebody ignorant like yourself reads your comment and doesn't know better is tempted to believe that a nation of terrorists moved to the US and tries to take it over, while you profess your belief in total submission to US policies and complete servitude. Be known to you that Muslims contributed and still contribute to a better life in all the Western societies. Muslims are not dumber than others nor above others in intelligence. Muslims are ordinary people. On the other hand terrorists today are of different stripes, you'll be surprised, they are Zionist Israelis, Hindus, Sikhs, Christian Serbs and Russians and last but not least those that claim Islam as their religion. The terrorists have a political agenda rather than religious. The fight in Palestine is not between Islam and Judaism, it is between Zionist Israelis and Palestinian Arabs. Both use religion as a vehicle to move masses toward each other's goals. In Kashmir the same thing, a teritorial dispute. Between Osamah Bin Ladin and Bush's family a sheer vendetta in which both use religion to motivate a political move. Tragedy is that is easier to single out all the Muslims as possible terrorists and "bully" them into submission and control than to investigate and go after real suspects in unfriendly terrain where one doesn't know the rules. For your information, 9/11 was engineered by outsiders, not American subjects (there are still a lot of unknown variables in this equation as for who did it and whether the government knew it before hand and let it happen to justify an aggression on Afganistan and Iraq). If you are a Muslim as your name would show, turn to Allah for praise not to any human institution, if you believed in Allah, then you would knoww that all good is in his hand, not America's hand. Are you diluted, my friend?
2004-03-05

H.A. FROM YATHRIB said:
Here we go!!! another "MODERN" Muslim, our Sir abdullah hakim, has landed on this site.

Let H.A. say a few words before I bulldoze him out of this site. Only when he is bulldozed, then he'll know why Muslims don't trust the American gov't and the WEST in general.

This Modern Muslim, who has fallen in love with cheap lobsters in America/WEST, is obviously having hard time maintaintain an equilibrim between Islam&Muslims and materialistic life of the West. It seems lobsters and booze have overcome him. And Islam and Muslims have become an annoying distractions, although he knows, in his mind, that Islam and Muslims are what he needs to survive at the end of the day.

He is hating Islam and Muslims because Islam and other Muslims are a road block. THe road blcok is slowing him down decelerate toward the nearest bars, nearest lobsters DINER etc...etc..

Let H.A. state a few things....
1. WHat did Europe contribute to the world 900 yrs ago?
2. What did America contribute to the world 60 yrs ago?

He is really making himself stupid. Doesn't the know the world history?

3. Does Sir Hakim know that if someone from the Middle East 1000 years takes the screw off his computer, he would not be able post comment on the internet and the WEST will be returned back into its cave?

Let me quote Sir Hakim!
"....1. AMERICA HAS BEEN ATTACKED ON 9/11 AND ITS HOSPITALITY HAS BEEN ABUSED AND WHEN IT UNDERTAKES SELF-DEFENSIVE MEASURES IT HURTS THE FEELINGS OF PEOPLE (MUSLIMS)..."
- Doesn't he know that AMerica has been attacking and oppressing Muslims since 1947 with the creation of the zionist state and with its one-sided policy? Of course, it is unIslamic to kill someone who kills you, but when you harass young teenagers at multiple zionist checkpoints, which are supported and funded by America, DO YOU EXPECT them (the kids) send flowers.

Osama bin Laden did NOT cause 9/11. The 19 young kids did it. They did not have to listen to OBL, but wh
2004-03-05

ABDULLAH HAKIM said:
SALAAM DR. SIDDIQI. PLEASE REALIZE THAT MUSLIMS IN AMERICA WERE DOING QUITE WELL BEFORE 9/11.
MASJIDS AND ISLAMIC SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN SPROUTING UP LIKE MUSROOMS ALL OVER AMERICA BEFORE 9/11.
WHAY HAS THE SITUATION CHANGED AFTER 9/11??
THE ANSWER IS VERY SIMPLE: 1. AMERICA HAS BEEN ATTACKED ON 9/11 AND ITS HOSPITALITY HAS BEEN ABUSED AND WHEN IT UNDERTAKES SELF-DEFENSIVE MEASURES IT HURTS THE FEELINGS OF PEOPLE (MUSLIMS). 2. HARDLY ANY MUSLIM ORGANIZATIONS OR GROUPS CONDEMNED THE 9/11 ATTACKS THEREBY RIGHTLY OR OTHERWISE GIVING THE IMPRESSION THAT MUSLIMS SECRETLY SUPPORT ATTACKS ON THE HOST COUNTRY THAT HAS WELCOMED THEM. 3. AMERICANS ARE BEGINNING TO GET FED UP WITH THE PROSELTYZING
ACTIVITIES OF MUSLIMS; ISLAM HAS CONTRIBUTED NOTHING FOR THE PAST 750 YEARS AND NOW SUDDENLY WANTS RESPECT AND GLORY. 4. EVEN AFTER 9/11 MUSLIM CLERICS IN AMERICA CONTINUED PREACHING AGAINST AMERICA - A FURTHER ABUSE OF AMERICAN HOSPITALITY. 5. MUSLIMS ARE THE FIRST IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY TO BE SEEN BY AMERICANS AS NOT HAVING
THE WELFARE OF THE HOST COUNTRY AT HEART. PREVIOUS GENERATIONS OF IMMIGRANTS BUILT AMERICA
AND SUPPORTED AMERICA BUT MUSLIM IMMIGRANTS TODAY ACT LIKE AMERICA OWES THEM A LIVING!! 6. I PERSONALLY HAVE NOT MET EVEN ONE MUSLIM WHO HAS
SPOKEN WELL ABOUT AMERICA EVEN THOUGH THEY HOLD BIG JOBS AND LIVE IN MILLION DOLLAR HOMES. I FIND THIS TRULY INCREDIBLE. 7. THE PRESENT HOSTILE AND ANTAGONISTIC MUSLIM MINDSET IS SERIOUSLY JEOPARDIZING THEIR STATUS IN AMERICA.
MUSLIM IMMIGRANTS HAVE NOT COME TO AMERICA TO COMMIT JEHAD AGAINS THE HOST COUNTRY THAT HAS WELCOMED THEM. IS THIS SO DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND? WE HAVE BECOME OUR OWN WORST ENEMIES.
THE AMERICAN PUBLIC FEEL THREATENED BY THE HOSTILITY AND SPREAD OF THESE IMMIGRANTS AND THE FBI AND CIA HAS TO RESPOND TO AVOID CRITICISM.
FOR GOD'S SAKE STOP THIS JEHAD MENTALITY. IT IS STUPID, ILLITERATE AND VENOMOUS. GOD BLESS AMERICA FOR ITS KINDNESS DESPITE GRAVE PROVOCATION. SHUKR ULHAM DU LILAH
2004-03-04

M ABDULLAH FROM USA said:
It is my understanding that all non muslims living in an Islamic state have to pay jiziya. Zimmis are allowed to live and work in Islamic lands if they conform to these 20 laws:

1. They are not to build any new places of worship.
2. They are not to repair any old places of worship which have been destroyed by the muslims.
3. They are not to prevent muslim travellers from staying in their places of worship.
4. They are to entertain for 3 days any Muslim who wants to stay in their homes and for a longer period if the muslim falls ill.
5. They are not to harbor any hostility or give aid and comfort to hostile elements.
6. They are not to prevent any one of them from getting converted to Islam.
7. They have to show respect to every Muslim.
8. They have to allow Muslims to participate in their private meetings.
9. They are not to dress like muslims.
10. They are not to name themselves with Muslim names.
11. They are not to ride on horses with saddle and bridle.
12. They are not to possess arms.
13. They are not to wear signet or seals on their fingers.
14. They are not to sell or drink liquor openly
15. They are to wear a distinctive dress which shows their status and separates them from Muslims.
16. They are not to propagate their custom and usages among the muslims.
17. They are not to build their houses in the neighbourhood of muslims.
18. They are not to bring their dead near the graveyards of the muslims.
19. They are not to observe their religious practices publicly or mourn their dead loudly.
20. They are not to buy muslim slaves

Am I not correct? If there are truly Christians practicing in camps and auditoriums, in Saudi Arabia, it only shows how corrupt the royal family is, and should be stopped immediately.
2004-03-04