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Originally posted by Cyrusgames Cyrusgames wrote:

If that is true (which I thank God that it is) what about Islamic conquests in the centuries after the�founding of�Islam?�


Cyrus,
I thought your question was, if Muslims don't force others with violence to convert to Islam.
And the answer to that is NO.
Now you are asking a different question, but are you confusing it with your first.
Now you are asking about Islamic conquests. Conquest and Conversion are different things, I hope you realize that.
Muslim conquests were to establish God's law on the earth, to provide justice, security and equality for all, and to spread knowledge and guidance, not to force people in to becoming Muslims.
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Originally posted by Chrysalis Chrysalis wrote:

Do you know what a Jizya is? It is a word that refers to Tax. Both Non-Muslims and Muslims need to pay taxes to their government. The Jizya Tax basically excuses the non-muslims from having to fight in the Muslim Military, and ensures that their rights are protected by the ruling Muslim government.

The Muslim civilians pay Zakat, Sadaqah, Ushr, and other sorts of religiously determined ''taxes'' (although they are not exactly like taxes, more a religious obligation) which non-muslims are excused from. Non-Muslims need not even be part of the muslim military because may not want to fight nations that belong to their faith.

 
Thanks for the explanation. That makes more sense. From what I understood previously it sounded more like a non-Muslim persecution tax.
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Originally posted by Webber Webber wrote:

Originally posted by Chrysalis Chrysalis wrote:

Do you know what a Jizya is? It is a word that refers to Tax. Both Non-Muslims and Muslims need to pay taxes to their government. The Jizya Tax basically excuses the non-muslims from having to fight in the Muslim Military, and ensures that their rights are protected by the ruling Muslim government.

The Muslim civilians pay Zakat, Sadaqah, Ushr, and other sorts of religiously determined ''taxes'' (although they are not exactly like taxes, more a religious obligation) which non-muslims are excused from. Non-Muslims need not even be part of the muslim military because may not want to fight nations that belong to their faith.

 
Thanks for the explanation. That makes more sense. From what I understood previously it sounded more like a non-Muslim persecution tax.


Yup. Also, from what I have read, according to Imam Abu Hanifah (who is one of the greatest muslim scholars of Islam) it was only applicable to able-bodied,  on-muslim males who were fit for military service. Women, Children, Poor, Monks, Hermits, slaves and elderly were exempted from the Jizya. It was a military compensation (or defense tax) for non-muslims who did not want to fight in the muslim army.

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Originally posted by honeto honeto wrote:


Muslim conquests were to establish God's law on the earth, to provide justice, security and equality for all, and to spread knowledge and guidance, not to force people in to becoming Muslims.


Can you clarify this? I assume that when you say "God's law" you're referring to Sharia, is that correct?

From my understanding Sharia is an essential aspect of Islam, is that not the case?
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And, as you know, every letter must
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can it be that so extremely well-
ordered a kingdom should have no
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Sharia means the word path or way,Allah says in ch 45 v 18-Follow the path of your religion not the way of those who know not.for eg division of property rules by Allah is mentioned in ch 4 v 11-12,so we say division of property should be according to Shariah,Prophet Muhammad S.A.W(pbuh) said that the zakah should b 2.5% of savings equal to 85 gms of gold,if we implement shariah law in Sha Allah crime rates will decrease,another example we know in this era situations of rape,molestations are increasing,but if one is God fearing he will always lower his gaze when he sees a non permissible women if all men follow this in sha Allah crime rate will decrease,there R several examples that how shariah will bring peace in this world.
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