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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 April 2005 at 11:32pm

Rehmat, in your orignal post, you generalise way too much. And another thing America does not equal the West! nor does the West equal America!

Ummziba, your experience does not equate that everyone does that, my experience is that I can wear shorts and shirt or singlets and i get treated respectful and as a human being.

I am with Unity1, I agree with her/him.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 April 2005 at 5:44am
Originally posted by Angel Angel wrote:

Originally posted by Rehmat Rehmat wrote:

After living 35 years withing western society - I think I could have better idea what is going on!

Did you ever get out thou?  

Yes - As a matter of fact I did go to your home-country - Israel in 1996.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 April 2005 at 5:50am
Originally posted by Angel Angel wrote:

Rehmat, in your orignal post, you generalise way too much. And another thing America does not equal the West! nor does the West equal America!

Are you saying that the vast majority of Americans are not decendents of European settlers? And how about, that Zionist prime minister of Israel wrote in his biography - "Israel may be situated in the Middle East, but we are European in every sense....?"

But then the 'West' could be out of European - or all Europeans could be Khazars - like the European Jew settlers in Palestine.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 April 2005 at 1:50am

Asalam Aalaikum

Yes it is true that Americans are the descendants of the Europeans but that doesnot mean that they will be equal to other Europeans in every aspect.

Take the example of Bani Isreal(Children of Isreal) who were the descendants of Isaac(pbuh)the youngest son of Ibrahim(pbuh) and majority of the Prophets excluding Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) came from the linage of Isaac(pbuh) does it mean that the Children of Isreal(Bani Isreal) were equal to the Prophets who came from the linage of Isaac(pbuh) in nature and quality?

Americans have no culture like Europeans thats because they are not the original Europeans, they are the mixture of different races of Europe.

If you visit London for few months and then visit USA for few months, you will see some great differences, in London Girls and Boys are more open to romance and sex then Americans.

Most of the Europeans including British are proud of themselves and that is also because they have a culture and heritage unlike Americans.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 April 2005 at 5:22am

Originally posted by unity1 unity1 wrote:


Asalam Aalaikum

Yes it is true that Americans are the descendants of the Europeans but that doesnot mean that they will be equal to other Europeans in every aspect.

Take the example of Bani Isreal(Children of Isreal) who were the descendants of Isaac(pbuh)the youngest son of Ibrahim(pbuh) and majority of the Prophets excluding Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) came from the linage of Isaac(pbuh) does it mean that the Children of Isreal(Bani Isreal) were equal to the Prophets who came from the linage of Isaac(pbuh) in nature and quality? 

I have studied, and Malcolm X also taught, that those who we call Jews today are actually from Europe and are converts to the Hewbrew Israelite relgion. Their native language is Yiddish, but they adopted Hebrew, after Musa brought them out of a savage condition in Europe. Malcolm used to say that this is a history that they do not want the people to know, because they usurped the birthright of the original Hewbrew Israelites, like Yacub usurped the birthright of his brother. Now they call themselves "The Chosen People", but they really usurped that title and they don't want it known.

One of the problems that the Muslim world has, is that they divide Europe into nations and view them as different. But when one looks throughout history, ones sees Europe acting as a single been being, with a united purpose.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 April 2005 at 5:29am

Originally posted by unity1 unity1 wrote:

Yes it is true that Americans are the descendants of the Europeans but that doesnot mean that they will be equal to other Europeans in every aspect

White Americans are descendants of European - just like the White settlers in Australia and New Zealand - the later too destroyed the Native societies by butchery - which is a 'hallmark' of European history.

No two brothers can be equal in every sense - That's the law of nature. However, the Americans, thanks to its European crime Mafia - has even exelled itself over Europe.

Quote Take the example of Bani Isreal(Children of Isreal) who were the descendants of Isaac(pbuh)the youngest son of Ibrahim(pbuh) and majority of the Prophets excluding Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) came from the linage of Isaac(pbuh) does it mean that the Children of Isreal(Bani Isreal) were equal to the Prophets who came from the linage of Isaac(pbuh) in nature and quality?

Sorry dear, could not get your point here - except that the 'Banu Israel' took their name from prophet Yakoob (Jacob) whose second name was 'Israel'.

Quote Americans have no culture like Europeans thats because they are not the original Europeans, they are the mixture of different races of Europe.

I would not like to insult the 287 million Americans - However, the first European settlers, both in Americana and Australia were British convict and thugs. 

Quote If you visit London for few months and then visit USA for few months, you will see some great differences, in London Girls and Boys are more open to romance and sex then Americans.

Are you saying that the Brits. have more homosexuals and lesbians than the US? The US has 28-30 million of them.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 April 2005 at 5:41am
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I have studied, and Malcolm X also taught, that those who we call Jews today are actually from Europe and are converts to the Hewbrew Israelite relgion. Their native language is Yiddish, but they adopted Hebrew, after Musa brought them out of a savage condition in Europe. Malcolm used to say that this is a history that they do not want the people to know, because they usurped the birthright of the original Hewbrew Israelites, like Yacub usurped the birthright of his brother. Now they call themselves "The Chosen People", but they really usurped that title and they don't want it known.

According to various European historians - 90% of European and American Jewry is descendents of Mongol Khazars. They don't belong to the 10-12 Tribes of 'Banu Israel'.

That the Khazars are the lineal ancestors of Eastern European Jewry is a historical fact. Jewish historians and religious text books acknowledge the fact, though the propagandists of Jewish nationalism belittle it as pro-Arab propaganda. Somewhat ironically, Volume IV of the Jewish Encyclopedia - because this publication spells Khazars with a "C" instead of a "K" - is titled "Chazars to Dreyfus": and it was the Dreyfus trial, as interpreted by Theodor Herzl, that made the modern Jewish Khazars of Russia forget their descent from converts to Judaism and accept anti-Semitism as proof of their Palestinian origin.

For all that anthropologists know, Hitler's ancestry might go back to one of the ten Lost Tribes of 'Israel'; while Weizmann may be a descendant of the Khazars, the converts to Judaism who were in no anthropological respect related to Palestine. The home to which Weizmann, Silver and so many other Ashkenazim Zionists have yearned to return has most likely never been theirs. "Here's a paradox, a paradox, a most ingenious paradox": in anthropological fact, many Christians may have much more Hebrew-'Israelite' blood in their veins than most of their Jewish neighbors.

Quote One of the problems that the Muslim world has, is that they divide Europe into nations and view them as different. But when one looks throughout history, ones sees Europe acting as a single been being, with a united purpose.

Not correct. Europeans have always divided and murdering each other throughout their history. The recent example are - WW I & 2, French Revolution, Russian Revolution, and breakdown of Yugoslavia, etc.

They were only UNITED during their 'holy crusades' against the Saracens (Muslim Arabs).

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