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British have left dear Yusuf brother... But the war which started when the first Muslim invaded Bharat, hasn't over yet!
THE SOIL OF BHARAT IS MY HIGHEST HEAVEN, THE GOOD OF BHARAT IS MY GOOD.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Yusuf. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 April 2005 at 12:00pm

Originally posted by bharatiya bharatiya wrote:

Salam Zaman bhai!!

What are you talking about?  Liberating 'lower castes'?

The Muslims invaded india for its riches.  Most of the gold was taken away to Persia.

Before Muslims invaded india, India was a naval power.  After the invasion, the whole of the navy was furled up and ships generally used to go only to Mecca.

But whatever has happened has happened for our good.

But one thing, I still feel sad about Muslims not leaving India even after the partition.  They are just sucking away India and helping the Pakistani ISI.

I'm ashamed to say I don't know this aspect of history as well as I should. But would you not agree that the British have more recently violated the Hindu lands for financial exploitation? And doesn't this lead to the conclusion that both the Islamic and the Hindu lands share this fate and should see in it a means for reconciliation and cooperation?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bharatiya Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2005 at 11:06pm
Salam Zaman bhai!!

What are you talking about?  Liberating 'lower castes'?

The Muslims invaded india for its riches.  Most of the gold was taken away to Persia.

Before Muslims invaded india, India was a naval power.  After the invasion, the whole of the navy was furled up and ships generally used to go only to Mecca.

But whatever has happened has happened for our good.

But one thing, I still feel sad about Muslims not leaving India even after the partition.  They are just sucking away India and helping the Pakistani ISI.
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Westerners might believe their coloniol rule over other people is a thing of past, its not so for those who suffered because of it. Japan was the only country in East Asia which escaped colonization by the West and it became as much prosperous and technologically advanced  as the West before the 2'nd World war, while even countries like India and China which were rich in natural resources became very poor under the coloniol rule. Because of the influence of the communists and partly because of the 2'nd World war in which Westerners savagely killed each other and weaken themselves, the people of the Western colonies were able to kick the White men out of their lands.

However, even after they acheived independence from the Western nations, they were in very pathetic state as the Westerners were sucking all their resources out of their lands. They had no infrastructure. As a result, they had almost no manufacturing ability. Not only did they have to sell their raw materials to the West at low prices but also had to buy manufactured products from the WEst at very exorbitant rates. Thus, as earlier, coloured man was robbed twice by the West of his resources.

It is ironic that people of the colonies can avail of the WEstern medicines after the WEsterners left their lands, rather than, when they were in their lands. As they introduced themselves to better healthcare of the Modern Age quite abruptly, the population growth they experienced was exponential, rather than linear(as experienced by the West). It couldn't have occured at the worst time than that and it aggravated their problem many times over.

However, currently many nations of the East are showing spectacular recovery and people of the former colonies have started to manufacture.  Countires like China, India, Indonesia etc. are showing high economic growth rate. Thus, they are going to need the raw materials they earlier used to sell to the West and they will not need to buy expensive products form the West. Inspite of that, people of the East are still very poor compared to rich nations of the West and also, the world has become unipolar after the fall of the Communists, they are vulnerable to mischiefs of the West.

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Originally posted by ZamanH ZamanH wrote:

Originally posted by kim! kim! wrote:

We need to give up our dependance upon oil.

That won't still solve the problem. The problem is more general/pervasive.

How so ?

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Originally posted by kim! kim! wrote:

We need to give up our dependance upon oil.

That won't still solve the problem. The problem is more general/pervasive.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kim! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 April 2005 at 10:51pm

We need to give up our dependance upon oil. We need to start using alternative energy sources. This will mean we don't have so much to do with the oil-producing countries and will also mean that there is more sunlight for us to use to harness solar energy.

Pollution is not only causing global warming, it is also causing "global dimming", which means there is less sunlight penetrating our atmosphere, so solar energy sources can't work so efficiently. (I assume)

So we need to decrease our oil use, produce less pollution and use more solar energy and other alternative sources.

Kim...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Yusuf. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 April 2005 at 7:29pm

Assalamu alaikum,

Notice, akhi, that tawhid is unable to do anything but mindlessly call your post "foolishness" without presenting any evidence or argument to rebut it.

Even a donkey can make noise.

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