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asep garutea
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Hammad80, There's one thing that makes it strange for me is that you claim to be a Muslim but your questions are actually like hate Islamic teachings. Frankly speaking, I have been preaching for more than twenty years, but only this time I found someone who claimed to be a Muslim who behaved like you. Sorry, I am not Allah, but Alhamdulillah, although we've never met, but with Bashiratul 'ilm that Allah gave to me, so I dare to guess you that you don't do salah like Muslims in general. |
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Hammad80
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I recently got an email that there were replies to my post, so I decided to check them out.
First of all, to all of you who have attempted to answer/answer the questions, I thank you. It seems like most of you asked for sources and stated that many of the things I was saying were incorrect. I will provide my sources. But first, to the guy who says I'm a fake/troll: Wow, just wow! I can see why people turn away from Islam. I asked genuine questions that trouble me, and you are telling everyone that I am not a Muslim and I am trolling! But I will try to ignore this. Back on point. I understand that there are many false hadiths. But who decides them? Any hadiths that people don't like get called a weak hadith? But for what I was saying: @asep_garutea (1) Ok. Fair enough. We'll know in the future if humans can truly create life or not extend beyond self-replicating polymers. (2) That is true, but does it account for as much as half the mental capability? Like 1 testimony equivalent to 2? I will check out the source @seekshidayath provided (3) In war, ofcourse you kill. I'm talking about outside of war. I meant outside of war. However, upon further research I realize these verses are taken out of context. So I will redact this point. But then, just to confirm: this means that you believe Taliban are not following Islam? There are many muslims in countries (such as Pakistan) that support Taliban and their activities. Are they all misguided? (4) Please provide benefits of women covering. Why does it not apply to men? Quran 4:24 (Sura An-Nisa): "And [also prohibited to you all] married women except those your right hand possess." *"Right hand posses" refers to slaves. This is clearly saying you can have sex with slave girls. While not in the Qur'an, Imama Al-Dhahabi says that there are 70 major sins, of which number 57 is: "A slave's running away from his master". I cannot re-find the hadith where Muhammad said to beat wife with a flexible wire because it hurts more. It might have been a weak hadith. If I can find it, i will post it. But in Qur'an 4:34 (Surah An-Nisa), is is stated that if your wife doesn't listen to you the third time: "and [finally] strike them." *Tell me how this isn't abuse and against human rights? Striking someone (who is not your child- and even then, lightly and for good reason) who is an adult should not be allowed. Please provide the benefits of dogs that Muhammad says. As for my source: Bukhari Sharif Vol. 4 (4:540): "Allah's Apostle ordered that dogs should be killed." (4:541): "Allah's Apostle said, 'If someone keeps a dog, he loses one Qirat (of the reward) of his good deeds every day, except if he keeps it for the purpose of agriculture or for the protection of livestock.'" *In general, there is clear hate for dogs in Islam (Heaven is not meant for men or women, but for anyone who is fear to Allah) That's a straw man argument. It doesn't answer the question I asked. If it is for anyone, why is there the appeal for men in heaven the highest? Qur'an should have equally provided details of what's in heaven for men, women, jinn, anyone else. Qur'an 9:30 (Surah At-Tawbah): "The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah"; and the Christian's say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieve [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?" *Ezra refers to Uzair and Messiah is, ofcourse, Esa ------------------ Thank you for answering my questions before. I really want to keep believing in Islam and even yesterday, I prayed and asked Allah for signs. But these doubts do pop up and they must be cleared. Otherwise, I am only lying to myself. I am not a troll or anything. You could see my thread history- I joined in 2017 where I asked an unrelated question to any of this. Anyone who still thinks I am- well, there's nothing I can do to convince you.
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asep garutea
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Thank you MIAW, That's right because it's the command of Allah Ta'ala. بَارَكَ اللهُ فِيْك |
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MIAW
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Wa Iyyak! You're welcome Asep. I have made some alterations and additions to my post above, so if you want, you could alter (the quote) accordingly. Getting criticized by opponents of Islam is not always a bad thing... it just highlights the many misconceptions that exist out there about our religion... and hence the task that is upon us (of educating non-muslims, fellow muslims, and even ourselves). |
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asep garutea
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Thank you MIAW for reminding us. In fact, I've already known that this person (hammad80) is classified as a hypocritical Muslim (if he is a Muslim) But if he pretends to be a Muslim then I really believe that Allah Ta'ala Sees what he does. جَزَاكَ اللَّهُ خَيْرًا |
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MIAW
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Brothers and sister: Jazakumullahu Khairan for your good replies. The person who started this discussion (Hammad80) is a fake... a troll... an Islamophobe. His likes keep assuming various identities and come back on here to attack your religion. They will never stop. They are getting more and more 'skilled' at concealing their identity (i.e. at hypocrisie and disguise), so you need to be very alert. (Note: At least 'Peacemaker' does not hide his identity, hatred and intentions). We know (and I can quote from the Qur'an and Hadith if you want) that faith/belief (Eeman) increases and decreases... but no genuine Muslim ever uses that to attack Islam in this manner. I don't wanna say more than this right now [apart from: there are more genuine ways of 'asking']. However... I would like to add some thoughts/replies. I am doing this for the benefit of my Muslim brothers and sisters... not for the likes of Hammond80 (as they are not interested).
This could be true or false... but if we look around, some of the most vocal opponents/enemies of Islam were brought up in a 'Muslim' household and carry real Muslim names.
There isn't a day that goes past that I don't thank Allah SWT for making me a Muslim... of all the bounties that Allah SWT Bestowed on me, this is by far the best.
Nothing wrong with asking questions... in fact, we are encouraged to do so... as long as you are polite and genuine about searching for the truth. However...Think of it this way: Islam is like the only path out of a forest fire: Following it blindly is better than following any other path or following no path at all.
That's because you are 'researching' and getting all your answers in Islamophobe websites. (that's if you're not actually the author yourself).
Even school children know that there are 7 conditions that have to be met, for any substance/organism to be described as living. These 7 conditions are called MRS GREN (or sometimes MRS NERG): it has to be able to do the following: Movement, Reproduction, Sensitivity (to external factors), Growth, Respiration, Excretion and Nutrition. (that is: it needs to be able to do all 7, or else it's not 'living'). Furthermore, self-replication is not new... many things self-replicate, but this does not mean that they are 'living'. check this out: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replication And yes I am aware of the work/research done by Sergei Maslov and Alexei Tkachenko. They've developed a model that explains how monomers could very rapidly make the jump to more complex polymers at the nanoscale. Their work was published in The Journal of Chemical Physics. In a way, I feel sorry for you, because while desperately trying to use anything scientific to attack Islam... you were failed by the most 'elementary' science.
So you take random cases like this and blame them on Islam and the Qur'an? FYI This happens in many countries around the world... including non-Muslims.
Typical islamophobic rant. In our world today, we are witnessing a violent war between various Extremists (of different ideologies and beliefs, including some Muslims, non-Muslims, islamophobes, trolls...etc)... it's a tit-for-tat... the only problem is that these extremists don't attack each other... they always attack the innocent victims in the middle (that is: Muslim and non-Muslim victims). I personally find it very sad whenever an innocent victim is attacked by an extremist... no matter who each of them is. And this violence is not always physical... sometimes it's verbal, emotional, mental...etc. Muslims are very much at the receiving end, but the Media (the biggest culprit) chooses what to highlight and what to ignore.
Typical islamophobic rant. This only happens in the 'ghettos' that you extremists have created. I have many Non-Muslim friends, and we are very loyal to each other... we don't share beliefs, but we certainly share many other life's aspects. We have a good 'laugh' with each other. I do not think of non-muslims as 'evil'... I always think of them as 'Prospective Muslims', and that includes islamophobes. Some of the most fervent opponents of Islam have eventually converted to Islam... and we have examples of this from the dawn (beginning) of Islam until today. For example Joram van Klaveren: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/05/dutch-former-anti-islam-mp-says-become-muslim/ Then Hammad80 goes on and gathers every islamophobic criticism from their websites... and throws it at you. (false accusations of course, and no references as usual).
This is referring to [Qur'an 9:30]. Jewish scholars used to meet regularly with our Prophet PBUH, but they never objected to this verse. (Because they knew it was true). If they had objected, then they would have made a very big deal out of it, and we would have known about that... In fact, we have the names of some of them who ended up converting to Islam.. and became great companions of our Prophet PBUH. I have more to say about this, but unfortunately no time. Perhaps soon Inshallah. The Dead Sea Scrolls (discovered in 1947) were the ultimate nail in the coffin of all skeptics.
Pure Islamophobic hatred. The likes of Hammad80 are the extremists who are causing all the problems of the modern world.
Pure Islamophobic drivel.
According to your likes... clearly NOT. This is quite obvious by all the concentration camps, genocide, extermination, discrimination and prejudice that is perpetrated against innocent Muslims throughout the world.
Really?!... How nice and innocent!
Careful! you're showing your true colors here. So let me see if I get this right... most Muslims don't understand the Qur'an, but Extremist Islamophobes do! We Muslims are nowhere near perfect, and we are constantly working on improving ourselves... however here is something controversial that we really understand: Coming across people like yourself makes us understand our Islam better, and really increases our belief and faith in the True Religion. And Finally...
So refreshing... Jazakillahu Khairan seekshidayath for being alert. |
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asep garutea
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The answer for no. 1 Yes, humans cannot create life except Allah. The answer for no. 2 Women are predestined to abilities not like men. Not only for the past but also today, as concrete evidence that the leaders of the countries are mostly men. Islam forbids sex outside of marriage because humans are not animals. You don't know the wisdom behind the law of qishash in Islam, like a thief is cut off by his hand, that is to make other thieves afraid to do the theft. One thief is cut off but saves the other thief from the punishment of cutting off a hand. Yes, many Muslim countries don’t follow Islamic rules, but they follow tawheed. That's true that Allah will provide for children, but parents are also instructed by Allah to use their brain. There are many cases where in Pakistan poor people have a lot of children and they have to sell them to prostitution or they won’t be able to take care of them. That is a characteristic of Muslims who do not understand the Koran. God entrusts children not to be treated as such, but to be raised and given a good and right education. The Prophet Muhammad never allowed his followers to rape women. You must be careful with false hadiths that will discredit the Prophet Muhammad and discredit the teachings of Islam. For your information, there are thousands of fake Hadiths currently in circulation. The answer for no. 3 Allah and the Prophet Muhammad never ordered violence as in the Quran and hadith. I am a non-violent Muslim because there is no order from Allah and the Prophet Muhammad. As for being ordered to kill, that is when in war, will you remain silent if you want to be killed by your enemy? Allah will help believers in war even though the number of troops is less than the opponent, for example during the war of Badr. Allah does not command to force other religions to convert to Islam, the duty of Muslims is only to convey the truth from Allah in a good and wise way. The answer for no. 4 A man will not be asked if in fact that his wife's makes a fatal mistake. (Women have to cover themselves from head to toe.) You do not understand the law and the positive consequences of closing aurat. (Women have to follow what their husbands say or the husband can beat them/threaten divorce.) What kind of husband should be followed? Because not all husbands are good and right. (Men can have sex with their slave girls, and their wives can’t complain) (Women captured in war can be raped/traded as sex slaves) Islam does not teach like that. (Escaping from slavery is considered a major sin) Who say that? It was precisely the Prophet Muhammad who forbade slavery. (Muhammad said to beat your wife with a certain type of wire (I think) because it hurt more) Prophet Muhammad did not order like that. (Islam says to kill dogs and not keep them as pets due to diseases, but this a great myth as dogs don’t carry insane amount of diseases like it’s said. In fact, a study shows that people who have dogs as pets live longer.) In fact the Prophet Muhammad said that in dogs there are two benefits for humans. (The description of heaven provides a lot for men but barely provides context for what’s there for women.) Heaven is not meant for men or women, but for anyone who is fear to Allah. (The Qur’an says that Jews believe Ezra as Son of God, when that’s 0 evidence for that and no Jew ever said that. Even in Arabia, there was no documented proof of such thing.) Could you please show me that verse in the Quran ? If you want to see the truth about Islam religion, don't be influenced by some Muslim behavior. But study the teachings such as reading and understanding the contents of the Qoran, also read the authentic hadith, don't just listen to what people say. You must remember that not all Muslims have carried out the commands of Allah and His Messenger. If anything is unclear, please ask again, I will be happy to answer and explain it. |
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seekshidayath
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Let me also tell you that your queries seem like from an anti-musim website, not your own. Can you state the query/doubt in reference to book of hadith as well as name of Surah from Quran [ whichever you are referring to You find barbaric to chop hands of a theif. It does n't mean all theives whoever steal are chopped. There are some terms and conditions for it |
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Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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