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Originally posted by asep garutea asep garutea wrote:

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Prophet Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, so he will not cheat against booty.

Can we talk about who the Lord of the universe really is? After that we will know who Jesus is and who Muhammad is, do you agree?

So you agree Allah is the Lord of the universe.
We can talk about this.
Good, now I want to ask you, does God have a son ?

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Originally posted by asep garutea asep garutea wrote:

Can we talk about who the Lord of the universe really is? After that we will know who Jesus is and who Muhammad is, do you agree?


How do you propose working that out?

What sort of evidence do you think we would need to start to answer that question?
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Originally posted by asep garutea asep garutea wrote:

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Prophet Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, so he will not cheat against booty.

Can we talk about who the Lord of the universe really is? After that we will know who Jesus is and who Muhammad is, do you agree?

So you agree Allah is the Lord of the universe.
We can talk about this.
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Prophet Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, so he will not cheat against booty.

Can we talk about who the Lord of the universe really is? After that we will know who Jesus is and who Muhammad is, do you agree?
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Originally posted by asep garutea asep garutea wrote:

I have explained that Allah does not need war booty. He only saw which people obeyed Him and those who did not.

So the booty that belongs Allah was a lying error made up by Muhammad so that he can get more out of the loot from his robberies.
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I have explained that Allah does not need war booty. He only saw which people obeyed Him and those who did not.
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Originally posted by asep garutea asep garutea wrote:

(How can Allah be our protector if he want his spoils of war.)

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You only see meaningfully in its default language, even though what is meant for Allah here is that the spoil of war must be used in the way of Allah.
So the word "lillahi" here is an opening word for "littabarruk" (get a blessing).

So you must understand that Allah doesn't need anything because He is the Richest (owner of heaven and earth).
The purpose of mentioning the word "lillahi" here, is only to teach Muslims to familiarize "tabarruk" with the name of Allah, which is to do an act by mentioning His name first.

In Quran 8:41 there is a sentence :
يَوْمَ الْتَقَى الْجَمْعٰنِ ۗ  
"The day when the two armies met."

This explains the time of the Badr war that took place on Friday 17th Ramadan the second year of Hijriyah.
This means that only applies when Muslims are attacked or fought.

(Muhammad just made sure he get more out of the war.)

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It's only your opinion who doesn't like the Prophet Muhammad.

(Matt 5:44
But I say to you, love your enemies and bless the one who curses you, and do what is beautiful to the one who hates you, and pray over those who take you by force and persecute you.)

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Allah Ta'ala Said :
فَبِمَا رَحْمَةٍ مِّنَ اللّٰهِ لِنْتَ لَهُمْ ۚ  وَلَوْ كُنْتَ فَظًّا غَلِيْظَ الْقَلْبِ لَانْفَضُّوْا مِنْ حَوْلِكَ ۖ  فَاعْفُ عَنْهُمْ وَاسْتَغْفِرْ لَهُمْ وَشَاوِرْهُمْ فِى الْاَمْرِ ۚ  فَاِذَا عَزَمْتَ فَتَوَكَّلْ عَلَى اللّٰهِ ۗ  اِنَّ اللّٰهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُتَوَكِّلِيْنَ
"Then thanks to the mercy of Allah you (Muhammad) are gentle to them. If you act hard and have a rough heart, surely they will distance themselves from your surroundings.
Therefore forgive them and ask forgiveness for them, and consult with them in the matter. Then, if you have made up your mind, then put your trust in Allah. Truly, Allah loves those who trust themselves. (Tawakkal)."
(Quran 3: 159)

Muslims are strictly forbidden by Allah to wage war unless it is fought. Here is His Word:

Allah Ta'ala Said :
لَا يَنْهٰٮكُمُ اللّٰهُ عَنِ الَّذِيْنَ لَمْ يُقَاتِلُوْكُمْ فِى الدِّيْنِ وَلَمْ يُخْرِجُوْكُمْ مِّنْ دِيَارِكُمْ اَنْ تَبَرُّوْهُمْ وَ تُقْسِطُوْۤا اِلَيْهِمْ ۗ  اِنَّ اللّٰهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُقْسِطِيْنَ
"Allah does not forbid you to do good and be fair to those who do not fight you in religious matters and do not drive you out of your hometown. Surely Allah loves those who act justly."
(Quran 60: 8)

Therefore, if you want to know the contents of the Quran, then learn the right ones to get "hikmah" (the wisdom) from the contents of the Quran.

This means litteral that Allah get his spoils of war stolen goods that he and Muhammad share so don't come to me cause it was war and then utter some peacefull Surahs in Muhammad's Quran Muhammad was always at to cash up for his army and personal income.
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(How can Allah be our protector if he want his spoils of war.)

Answer:
You only see meaningfully in its default language, even though what is meant for Allah here is that the spoil of war must be used in the way of Allah.
So the word "lillahi" here is an opening word for "littabarruk" (get a blessing).

So you must understand that Allah doesn't need anything because He is the Richest (owner of heaven and earth).
The purpose of mentioning the word "lillahi" here, is only to teach Muslims to familiarize "tabarruk" with the name of Allah, which is to do an act by mentioning His name first.

In Quran 8:41 there is a sentence :
يَوْمَ الْتَقَى الْجَمْعٰنِ ۗ  
"The day when the two armies met."

This explains the time of the Badr war that took place on Friday 17th Ramadan the second year of Hijriyah.
This means that only applies when Muslims are attacked or fought.

(Muhammad just made sure he get more out of the war.)

Answer:
It's only your opinion who doesn't like the Prophet Muhammad.

(Matt 5:44
But I say to you, love your enemies and bless the one who curses you, and do what is beautiful to the one who hates you, and pray over those who take you by force and persecute you.)

Answer:
Allah Ta'ala Said :
فَبِمَا رَحْمَةٍ مِّنَ اللّٰهِ لِنْتَ لَهُمْ ۚ  وَلَوْ كُنْتَ فَظًّا غَلِيْظَ الْقَلْبِ لَانْفَضُّوْا مِنْ حَوْلِكَ ۖ  فَاعْفُ عَنْهُمْ وَاسْتَغْفِرْ لَهُمْ وَشَاوِرْهُمْ فِى الْاَمْرِ ۚ  فَاِذَا عَزَمْتَ فَتَوَكَّلْ عَلَى اللّٰهِ ۗ  اِنَّ اللّٰهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُتَوَكِّلِيْنَ
"Then thanks to the mercy of Allah you (Muhammad) are gentle to them. If you act hard and have a rough heart, surely they will distance themselves from your surroundings.
Therefore forgive them and ask forgiveness for them, and consult with them in the matter. Then, if you have made up your mind, then put your trust in Allah. Truly, Allah loves those who trust themselves. (Tawakkal)."
(Quran 3: 159)

Muslims are strictly forbidden by Allah to wage war unless it is fought. Here is His Word:

Allah Ta'ala Said :
لَا يَنْهٰٮكُمُ اللّٰهُ عَنِ الَّذِيْنَ لَمْ يُقَاتِلُوْكُمْ فِى الدِّيْنِ وَلَمْ يُخْرِجُوْكُمْ مِّنْ دِيَارِكُمْ اَنْ تَبَرُّوْهُمْ وَ تُقْسِطُوْۤا اِلَيْهِمْ ۗ  اِنَّ اللّٰهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُقْسِطِيْنَ
"Allah does not forbid you to do good and be fair to those who do not fight you in religious matters and do not drive you out of your hometown. Surely Allah loves those who act justly."
(Quran 60: 8)

Therefore, if you want to know the contents of the Quran, then learn the right ones to get "hikmah" (the wisdom) from the contents of the Quran.

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