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MIAW
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This is such a weak argument! God Knows about every 'crime' before it happens (or even be planned) ... so you want Him to stop every crime, murder, corruption, bullying, tyranny, wrongdoing, rape, abuse, hostility, war, destruction, theft, robbery, cheating, forgery...etc...etc. Wouldn't it be a nice place to live in!! (if all these crimes were stopped and prevented... i.e if they were inexistant). Ah but... wait a second... This place DOES EXIST!! We call it Paradise. The only thing is... to be in it... EACH ONE OF US HAS TO EARN IT. (That's the whole idea! ) |
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DavidC
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Like a long line for the barber's chair? Per Mark 15:42-47, a rich man bribed Pilate for Jesus' body and Pilate was surprised Jesus had died so soon. |
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Christian; Wesleyan M.Div.
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yandex
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Yes. As the Quran describes it; Allah hath promised to Believers, men and women, gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the good pleasure of Allah: that is the supreme felicity (Quran 9 72)
For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk ( transliteration: istabraq) and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on! (Qur'an 18:31) Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. (Qur'an 22:23)
(Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? (Qur'an 47:15)Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded. (Qur'an 52:24) In them will be (Maidens), chaste, restraining their glances, whom no man or Jinn before them has touched;- (Qur'an 55:56) And full-breasted [companions] of equal age (Quran 78 33) (They will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), Reclining on them, facing each other. Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains: No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they suffer intoxication: And with fruits, any that they may select: (21)And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire. And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes,- Like unto Pearls well-guarded. (Qur'an 56:15-23) And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk. (13)Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see there neither the sun's (excessive heat) nor (the moon's) excessive cold. And the shades of the (Garden) will come low over them, and the bunches (of fruit), there, will hang low in humility. And amongst them will be passed round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal,- Crystal-clear, made of silver: they will determine the measure thereof (according to their wishes). And they will be given to drink there of a Cup (of Wine) mixed with Zanjabil (ginger),- A fountain there, called Salsabil. And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls. (Qur'an 76:12-19) |
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Tim the plumber
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Telling the rest of us that your, Islamic, arguments are simply better than any others just because they come from Islam is not going to impress anybody. You are on the internet. Not in some sort of Islamic school where any challenge to Islam is punished. You have the same expectations on you as the rest of us where supporting your arguments are concearned. |
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airmano
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Sure, you are indeed not obliged. But it brings you in the same position as those who are convinced to be Napoleon. Asking them "can you prove it ?" usually results in "Why should I ? I know I'm Napoleon !" Airmano
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The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses (Albert Einstein 1954, in his "Gods Letter")
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MIAW
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@Tim, I don't have 'arguments'. I just have a faith that I am happy with... and would like the chance to 'practice it' peacefully and without negative interference all the time. At the end of the day... I really... really believe that I (along with everyone else who has ever walked this Earth) will (at some point) be brought to account in a way that is so 'detailed' that it is impossible to imagine with our weak human minds... and I am only trying to 'save' myself from the unimaginable punishment that ensues... and it 'will' happen, otherwise what exactly is the point of this very 'short' life of ours?... |
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Tim the plumber
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OK, enjoy. But you are not here, on the internet, quietly practicing your faith. You are here spreading the message of Islam. You have every right to do this. But don't expect to go unchallenged.
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MIAW
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Good point. I agree. I don't mind being challenged... It's the way that it's done (by some people)! Being challenged and opposed is an honor... it's the trait of Prophets and Messengers of Allah (Peace and Blessings upon them all), i.e. the examples that we mean to follow. |
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