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Luke6_37 
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Arianism is nothing like the Muslim point of view - if anything, this heresy is closer to the Christological heresy the Qu'ran condemns. It was never accepted by orthodox Christians and clearly condemned by the Roman Catholic Church at the councils of Nicaea (325 AD) and Constantinople (381 AD). Arius taught that the Logos was the first creation of YHWH in eternity past. This would make Christ a separate divine being, which violates the first article of faith that defines all three Abrahamic religions - that the Lord, our God is One. The Qur'an never directly refutes the doctrine of the Trinity. It appears to not even be aware of how it is dogmatically defined. The Qur'an refutes a belief in three divine beings: Father, Son and Mary. It also states that Jesus (despite his miraculous birth and sinless nature) was no more than a human prophet. Roman Catholics agree with the Qur'an that there is only one divine being, but there is no reason for us to accept it's claim that Jesus was merely a prophet. Everything that has been handed down directly to us from the first century by Scripture and Tradition supports the Christian doctrines of the Incarnation, Crucifixion and Resurrection. The Qur'an coming out of left field to make other claims is simply not convincing in the least. The Trinity is dogmatically defined as the one BEING of God shared by three distinct PERSONS: Source (Father), Logos (Son) & Pneuma (Holy Spirit). I explain it to children like this, a rock is not like a human in the same way that a human is not like God. A rock has being, but no person. A human has being, and one person. God has being, and three persons. Since we are talking about three different types of being, it makes no sense to insist they should all be the same with respect to person. |
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NABA
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Posted: 14 March 2018 at 9:51pm |
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Peacemaker once again I repeat God cannot have son, because Allah is creator he is not in the need of means,in fact he is the source of all means,he does what he intends to do,once again I repeat Allah is one he is eternal he is neither born nor give birth there is nothing like him.
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Posted: 11 March 2018 at 9:27pm |
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I'm just curious, I don't have any intention to argue or whatsoever,
1. About the Ten Commandments: Why does the Roman Catholic combine the first and the second commandment (of the Protestant version) into one commandment, but then break down the tenth commandment (of the Protestant version) into two different commandments? (by the way, in my opinion, “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.” seems to be one commandment, not two. 2. which OT version do you think is more reliable: the Septuagint or Masoretic Text? 3. Do you believe that there is salvation outside the Roman Catholic, e.g. Eastern Orthodox Church, Protestantism, Judaism, Islam? 4. What do you think of same-sex marriage? Are you pro or against it, and why? |
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airmano
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@Luke
Any news on the trinity ? Airmano
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The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses (Albert Einstein 1954, in his "Gods Letter")
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What type of Christians faithless you seen many where? Do all religions lead to God? No. All people�religious or otherwise�will stand before God some day (Hebrews 9:27), but religious affiliation is not what determines your eternal destiny. Only faith in Jesus Christ will save. �Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life� (1 John 5:12). It�s as simple as that. Only Christianity�faith in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ�leads to God�s forgiveness and eternal life. No one comes to the Father except through the Son (John 14:6). It does make a difference what you believe. The decision to embrace the truth about Jesus Christ is important. Eternity is an awfully long time to be wrong. |
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Posted: 18 February 2018 at 4:04am |
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I had seen so many Christians died of snake poisoning,Allah is the only one to be worshipped because Allah is one he is eternal he is neither born nor give birth there is nothing like him.
﴿سورة البقرة ٢٥٥﴾ اللَّهُ لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ الْحَيُّ الْقَيُّومُ ۚ لَا تَأْخُذُهُ سِنَةٌ وَلَا نَوْمٌ ۚ لَهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ ۗ مَنْ ذَا الَّذِي يَشْفَعُ عِنْدَهُ إِلَّا بِإِذْنِهِ ۚ يَعْلَمُ مَا بَيْنَ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَمَا خَلْفَهُمْ ۖ وَلَا يُحِيطُونَ بِشَيْءٍ مِنْ عِلْمِهِ إِلَّا بِمَا شَاءَ ۚ وَسِعَ كُرْسِيُّهُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ ۖ وَلَا يَئُودُهُ حِفْظُهُمَا ۚ وَهُوَ الْعَلِيُّ الْعَظِيمُ [Quran 2:255] Allah! There is no god except He, the Living, the Everlasting. Neither slumber overtakes Him, nor sleep. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His permission? He knows what is before them, and what is behind them; and they cannot grasp any of His knowledge, except as He wills. His Throne extends over the heavens and the earth, and their preservation does not burden Him. He is the Most High, the Great. https://goo.gl/k3Q5pV |
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Luke6_37
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Posted: 17 February 2018 at 10:23am |
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Absolutely!
When interpreting Paul's words, do not forget to do so in light of what Jesus himself taught us. Jesus said he would build a Church that would endure and that is what he did. "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." - Matthew 16:18 The Catholic Church has certainly had its ups and downs. It is made up of human beings, like you and me, who are weak and imperfect. The only reason it has not failed is because the Holy Spirit has always been there to guide it. The Church Christ founded has endured for 2,000 years and will continue to endure until he returns at the end of time. Throughout the ages, the Catholic Church has continued to grow in wisdom and understanding of Divine Revelation - exactly as Jesus said it would. (John 16: 12-13) The 16th century reformers did much to realign the Church and at the Council of Trent their arguments were taken under serious consideration. What was good was retained and what was bad was rejected.
That's right. Wisdom comes through Christ and the Holy Spirit, but not to the individual. Christ established a Church that would represent the Kingdom of God, which is not of this world (John 18:36). This is the Church that gave us the scriptures - including the letters of Paul. Christ sent Paul to establish his Church among the gentiles, but these churches were united under the authority of the Apostles (Acts 15). They were responsible for producing the 27 books of the New Testament that all orthodox Christians use for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness (2 Timothy 3:16-17) Do not forget that Jesus wants all who believe in him to be united so that we may witness the truth of the Gospel to the world (John 17:20-23). If you truly wish to do as Christ wills, you cannot do so on your own, but must be in communion with his Church. |
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This verse does not claim to offer protection to ALL who believe. It simply says that certain signs will accompany those who believe - meaning some among the believers will receive these gifts and miracles as a sign to others of the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It doesn't say everyone who believes in Jesus Christ will receive them. Therefore, it is best not to test it! In a more general sense, it sounds like you are wondering whether a Muslim, who believes Jesus Christ is a prophet, would also receive the graces that are promised in scripture to those who believe Jesus Christ is the Divine Word of God. Some Christians (like Peace Maker) would say NO, scripture clearly states that in order to receive the gift of God's grace and eternal life, you must believe that Jesus is 1) the Divine Word of God, 2) who died on the cross for our sins and 3) was raised from the dead. Roman Catholics think a bit differently about this. We believe that those who believe Jesus is 1) the Divine Word of God, 2) who died on the cross for our sins and 3) was raised from the dead, will receive God's grace and eternal life. This is the Gospel of Jesus Christ in a nutshell. However, Catholics also believe that God does what He wills. Therefore, if God wants to give the gift of grace and eternal life to someone who does not believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ, then that is what will happen. Muslims are top on the list of those who are likely to receive such grace.
Here is a story to help explain what I mean: Imagine you are standing at the edge of a frozen river covered in a deep fog and you need to cross over in order to be forever safe for all eternity with God. You can try to cross on your own and you might make it if God chooses to guide you. However, right next to you is a bridge that Jesus has built that offers a sure Way across the river. You can either put your faith in Jesus and take the sure Way, or attempt the treacherous crossing on your own. Roman Catholics believe that the bridge in the story is the Catholic Church that Jesus said he would build in Matthew 16:18. Edited by Luke6_37 - 18 February 2018 at 8:21am |
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