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Lachi 
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 Posted: 18 March 2014 at 3:31pm |
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As you so clearly show, the words of Psalm 22 beautifully fit the crucifixion of Jesus as recorded in the Gospels.
But as to King David being crucified - can you show me in Scripture where it says he was hung in response to his relation with Jonathan? David and Jonathan were not homosexual, nor did David dance naked in the streets. 1 Kings 15:5 "because David did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite." And even though God frowned upon David and Bathsheba, still was King Solomon (the son of David and Bathsheba) chosen by God to rule a united kingdom and build his temple. He was blessed by God as his son. Solomon was the son of God. |
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Posted: 18 March 2014 at 10:20pm |
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I stand by whatever I post , Your more then welcome to Challenge any of my post as long as you use Chapter and Verse , Meaning Scriptures . I'm not wasteing time playing word game with you. Psalms 22 Have nothing to do with the Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) according to the By-bill that is / scriptures . This is why I walk you through it Verse by Verse.
According to the Holy Qur'aan 17 ; 81 , Where It States , And I Quote ' And Say The Fact Beyond And Doubt Have Come And False Ways Were To Vanish ( In Time ) . ... Edited by Al Saadiqeen21 - 19 March 2014 at 8:45am |
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Lachi
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Posted: 20 March 2014 at 6:20pm |
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I have challenged your post and given you Scripture - 1 Kings 15:5 "because David did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite." Scripture disproves your assertion that David was homosexual or danced naked in the streets (unless you think these things were 'right in the eyes of the Lord'?). It is now your turn to do what I have done, and tell me from Scripture where it says that David was crucified because of his relationship with Jonathan. If you can't meet your own standards, don't throw accusations at others. Edited by Lachi - 20 March 2014 at 6:24pm |
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Posted: 22 March 2014 at 6:36am |
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I have explain the whole chapter of Psalms 22 , You can take it or leave it , No do over .
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Posted: 22 March 2014 at 2:25pm |
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Because the recorders of The Gospels wrote what They Heard as Opposed to what they saw . None of the recorders of The Synoptic Gospel were present after they fled to The Garden . Yashu'a called Twelve Men to Discipleship , Our of the Twelve Two of them wrote their Version of the Crucifixion . John son of Zebedee's account is Fact , Where as the other , Gospel's accounts are Tales . The other Two Writers of The Gospel , Luke , And Mark, weren't Disciples . Why is it that Peter has no record of The Crucifixion , And he was there to see everything that happen . He never even recorded the fact that he denied Yashu'a Three Times . In Paul's Book , He mentions something about The Crucifixion , But he doesn't actually say that Yashu'a died on the cross .
The fact is , The Synoptic Gospels are writings of what these Men Were Told by way of Mouth , None of the Disciples were present and Mark and Luke weren't Disciples at all . Mark was a Judahite from Jerusalem ; And a property owner . His mother Mary was a supporter of The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a teaching and thus open her home to The Disciples and their followers for it to serve as their gathering place .
John joined The Disciples Barnabas and Saul, Shaool , Paul The 13th Self -Appointed Apostle , On their first Missionary Journey , 47-48 A.D. , And travelled to The Greek Isle of Antioch to propagate the word of The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a to The Lost Sheep Of The House of Israel . He served as Minister to Barnabas and Paul and was considered a Deacon or Servant . Who adided them . Mark also served as an Interpreter and attendant to Saul, Shaool , Paul . He would Translate Saul, Shaool , Paul's Sermons into Greek so that the Gentiles could understand .
Mark Eventually left the first missionary journey and returned to Jerusalem . The caused dissension between Barnabas and Paul . Paul resented Mark leaving him and would not allow him to go on the second Missionary journey . However Barnabas insisted that he come . Barnabas and Paul ended up going their separate ways .
Luke was a Greek Physician who was a companion of Paul on his second journey to Teach The Gentiles. He also accompanied Paul on the third missionary journey whose destination was Rome . Luke was also a well -travelled man with knowldge of navigation and was a great writer . He was able to bridge the gap between The Jews ( Jebusites of Canaan ) and the Gentiles . He taught that The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a was a Universal Savior . The other Books of the New Testament aside from The Book of Revelation ; Acts of The Apostles and The Twenty -One Epistles were written by Luke and Paul . The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a did not inscribe any of these books nor were they Divinely Inspired . They , Like Synoptic Gospels
, ( Are Words Of Men ) And therefore should not be trusted .
Contradiction Of Luke .
( 1 ) . Holy Ghost bestowed the day of Pentecost ( Acts 1;8 , 2;4 ) ...... Holy Ghost bestowed before Pentecost ( John 20 ; 22 ) .
( 2 ) . Luke says the disciples were instructed to go to Jerusalem and stay there . ( Luke 24 ; 49 ) .......The disciple were commanded to go to Galilee immediated after the resurrection ( Matthew 28 ; 10 ) .
( 3 ) . Luke says the disciples were instructed to go to Jerusalem and stay there ( Luke 24;49 ..... Matthew says it was Galilee on a mountain . ( Matthew 28 ; 16 ) .
( 4 ) . Luke and his friend ( Paul ) said the promised land never belonged to anyone . ( Acts 7;5 / Hebrew 11 ; 9.13 ) ..... Abraham's seed dod receive the promised land ( Genesis 13;14 ./ Genesis 13;15 ,17 ; 17;8 )
( 5 ) . Christ's mission was one of peace , Only ( Luke 2 ; 13 , 14 ) . Not so says Matthew . ( Matthew 10;34 ) .
( 6 ) . A Good name is a Curse says Luke , ( Luke 6;26 ) .... A Good name is a Blessing , ( Ecclesiastes 7 ; 1 , Proverbs 22 ; 1 ) .
( 7 ) . Abraham bought land for Sepulchre . ( Acts 7 ; 16 ) ....... Jacob purchased it says Joshua ( Joshua 24 ; 32 ) .
( 8 ) . Importunity ( Persitence ) in prayer is commended ( Luke 18 ; 5 , 7; 11;8 ) ..... Repetitious prayers are condemned ( Matthew 6 ; 7-8 ) .
( 9 ) . Women are in subjection to their Husbans ( 1Peter 3 ; 1 ) ...... Women can Prophesy . ( Acts 2;18 , 21 ; 9 ) , Contradicts Paul ( 1Corinthians 14 ; 24 , ( 1Timothy 2;12 ) .
( 10 ) . If you break the Law or Disobey The holy sporit you are a sinner . ( Mark 3;29 ) ,..... All that Believe have Sins of the Laws of Moses taken away ( Acts 13 ; 39 ) .
( 11 ) . Luke says Satan entered into Judas before the supper . ( Luke 22;3,4,7 ) ....... Satan entered Judas during the last supper , ( John 13 ; 27 ) .
( 12 ) . Luke says Judas purchased the Potter's field . ( Acts 1;18 ) ..... Matthew says the chief priests purchased the potters ( Matthew 27 ; 6 , 7 ) .
(13 ) . More than three Women came to The Sepulchre , ( Luke 24 ; 10 ) , ...... Just three Women came to The Sepulchre says Mark ( Mark 16 ; 1 ) .
(14 ) . Two men stood by The Sepulchre says Luke . ( Luke 24 ; 4 ) , ...... Only one man sat beside The Sepulchre says Matthew ( Matthew 28 ; 2-3 ) .
( 15 ) . Luke said that Salah was the son of Cainan ( Luke 3 ; 34,36 ) , ....... Salah was the son of Arphaxad , ( Genesis 11; 12 ) .
( 16 ) . The infant Christ was not taken into Egypt , ( Luke 2;22,39 ) ...... The infant Christ was taken into Egypt . ( Matthew 2 ; 14 , 15 , 19 , 21 , 23 ) .
( 17 ) . Christ's first Sermon was in the plain . ( Luke 6 ; 17 , 20 ) , ..... Christ preached his first Sermon on the mount , Matthew 5 ; 1,2 ) .
Luke contradicts himself ;
* Christ ascended from Mount Olive ( Acts 1 ; 9 -12 ) .
* He says , ''No , I mean from Bethany ( Luke 24 ; 50 - 51 ) .
* Sell you garments to buy A Sword ( Luke 22 ; 36 ) .
* The same man change his mind ( Luke 12 ; 4 ) .
* Luke tells of Paul's vision , He said; The men heard a voice and stood speechless ( Acts 9 ; 7 ) .
* The men saw a light , But heard no voice ( Acts 22;9 ) .
* No , They all heard a voice ( Acts 26 ; 14 ) .
What it all boils down to Luke wrote The Book of Acts to verify Saul, Shaool , Paul The 13th Self -Appointed Apostle , '' calling '' . He contradicts the events of the ''Calling '' Three times . Its in The Bible !!! Luke's words are not to be trusted !! He wrote his own Opinions ( Yes,Opinions! ) of what actually took place during Yashu'a Ministry . Dates confirm that The Books of Acts was Written 27 Years After The Alleged Crucifixion . The Book of Luke was Written 25 Years after that .
Therefore , He was Never Present at any of The Events He Wrote About . Luke 's only Movtive was to Gain Fame and Recognition for himself . Luke's opportunity arrived when Saul, Shaool , Paul The 13th Self -Appointed Apostle , ( His Friend ) , Claimed Aposteship and eventual inclusion of The Gentiles to the Covenant . Can't you see ? The foundation that the Churches are Built is like the House that was carelessly Built On Top Of Sand . ( Matthew 7 ; 26-27 )
Mark Proclaimed ( Disciple of The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a ..... Luke Proclaimed ( Disciple of The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a .....
Luke Never got his calling from Yahuwa He did his Own Thing according to his Own Book !
The Gospel According to Luke 1 ; 1-4 , Where It States ; And I Quote ; Forasmuch as many have taken in hand ( To Set Forth In Order a declaration of those things Which Are Most Surely Believe among us . ( 2 ) .Even as they delivered then unto us . which from the beginning were eyewitnesses , and Minister of the Word . ( 3 ) . It seemed good to me also have had perfect understanding of all things From The Very First to write unto thee in order , most excellent Theophilus ( 4 ) . That thou mightest know the certainty of those things , wherein thou hast been instructed . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
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Lachi
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Posted: 23 March 2014 at 3:31pm |
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You have explained nothing. David was not crucified for his relationship with Jonathan - that is just unfounded opinion based on the words of man. No Scripture supports it. 1 Kings 15:5 "because David did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite." Where does it say David acted against God's Law and was crucified? If you cannot answer this, then your explanation of Psalm 22 is nothing but made up fantasy. |
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Posted: 24 March 2014 at 3:56am |
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Owell according to you I have not , But you don't count anyway .  Edited by Al Saadiqeen21 - 25 March 2014 at 11:49am |
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Posted: 24 March 2014 at 11:38am |
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The Pharisees , Al Farriysiyyin , in Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) from the root word Farasa -arabic , means , '' To regard searchingly , eye , scrutinize '' , In Aramic ( Hebrew ) Fershim or Farush , meaning '' seprated , or separatist '' and in Greek , Pharisaios also meaning '' Separatist '' , The Pharisees were a distinct group that formed separately from the 70 Elders who waited at the bottom of Mt. Sinai ( Exodus 19 ; 7 ) for the Great Teacher Mosheh , Musa , Moses to return with thwe first commandments from one of the Elohyeem '' God , Judges , Angel '' one of whom is a Yahayyu Eloheem '' Lord of the Gods , Judges , Angels .
Exodus ~ Torah 2 , Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. 19 ; 7 , Where It States , And I Quote ; And Moses came and called for the Zawqane 'Elder ' of the nation of people , and put before their faces all these words which Yahuwa Tsawwaw 'Commanded ' him . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
The Pharisees supposedly received a more profound revelation which was not written down at the time . Thus , it became known as the Oral Law , and eventually took precedence over the Written Law , From this they compiled a set of Ahaadiyth -arabic , Tales which they referree to as Laws , calling it the Talmud , aramic , and Mishnah - aramic , A group of lay Priest or Scribes interpreted the law and became the greartest legal authorites .
For instance , if the Holy Torah said the Great Teacher Mosheh , Musa , Moses spoke to the burning bush , they added that the Elohyeem '' Gods , Judges , Angels '' were in the fire , so then the fire must be good therefore you can sacrifice by the consuming fire . Over the course of 430 years , 70 Israelites went into Egypt ( Genesis 46 ; 27 ) and 6,000 came out ,It stands to reason that over the years the 70 mixed in with the original inhabitants of that land who were Nubians , Blacks
, Negroids .
Genesis ~ Torah 1 Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. 46 ; 27 , Where It States , And I Quote ; And the Bane Sons of Yosafe , which were Yawlad Given In Birth for him in Mitsrayim were 2 Nehfesh 'Spirits , All the Nehfesh 'Spirits of the house of Jacobs , which came into Mitsrayim were 70 . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
As the saying goes '' One drop of black blood make you Nubians , Blacks
, Negroids ( said by Brigham Young who succeeded Joseph Smith the founder of the Mormon church ) so these 6,000 Israelites who came out of Egypt were Nubians , Blacks , Negroids. Keeping that in mind , we know that the 70 Elders that waited at the bottom of Mt , Sinai were also Nubians , Blacks
, Negroids . Meaning , the writes of the Talmud were were also Nubians , Blacks
, Negroids .
However , Caucasoids try to cliam the Talmud as their own , just createing another avenue to give themselves a hostory . The Talmud is the Hebrew word for study , learn - in a general sense it means study of the law . The language of the Talmud was pure Hebrew very similar to Aramic ( Hebrew ) . Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' was constantly warning about the Sadducees ( Scribes ) and Pharisees ( Matthew 23 , Matthew 16 ; 1-11 , Matthew 15 ; 1-20 ) . Click here: Matthew 23 :: Arabic/English Online Bible ,
Click here: Matthew 16 ; 1-11 :: Arabic/English Online Bible Click here: Matthew 15 ; 1-20 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
The Pharisees claimed to Adhere to the laws of Mosheh , Musa , Moses , yet they were doing everything just for show as Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' said in ( Matthew 5 ; 20 ) .
The Gospel According to Matthew 5 ; 20 , Where It States , And I Quote ; For I say unto you , that except your rightepusness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees , ye shall in no case enter into the Kingdom of Heaven . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
They were Professing to be Men , But were Hypocites . The Pharisees , the Sadducees , and Chief Priests made up the Sanhedrin . which was formed in 902 B.C.E. , the Chief Judicial Council of the Supreme Courts of the Jebusites and the Jacobites ( the mixed seed of the Israelites Acts 5 ; 21 ) .
The Acts of the Apostles 5 ; 21 , Where It States , And I Quote ; And when they heard that , they entered into the Temple early in the morning and Taught , But the High Priest came , and they that were with him , and Called the Council To Gether and all the Senate of the Children of Israel . and sent the prison to have them brought . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
In The American Heritage Disctionary , by the Editors of the American Heritage Disctionary , Houghton Mifflin Publishers , the word Sanhedrin is defined as '' The highest judicial and ecclesiastical council of the ancient Jewish nation composed of from 70 to 72 members .
The Council of the Sanhedrin , because of its judicial authority , had a lot of influence over the people . They were given their authority by the Roman Empire as a means of keeping the Pure seed of the Judahite in control . They adjusted their Judaic laws in compliance to the laws of Rome , So all those who conformed to these ways became the ''Reformed Jews '' Who Mixed State With Religion . This is the same thing Religious Leaders Do Today . ; as Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' Stated in ( Mark 7 ; 8 ) ,
The Gospel According to Mark 7 ; 8 , Where It States , And I Quote ; For laying aside the Comandment of ( Thehos , Elohyeem '' Gods , Judges , Angels ) God' ye hold the tradition of men . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
The Pharisees and the Sadducees loved the Wealth and Power that working with Rome brought them . They benefited from the ways of Caesar - the '' ways of the Gentiles '' ( Matthew 6 ; 32 ) , none of them had any concern for the things of the Elohyeem '' Gods , Judges , Angels ''
The Gospel According to Matthew 6 ; 32 , Where It States , And I Quote ; ( For after all these things do the Gentiles seek ) for you Heavenly Father knoweth that ye Have Need of all these things < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
This is why Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' conwstantly spoke out against thye Council of the Sanhdrin aned all those associated wityh them ( Matthew 23 ; 5 ) All the False , Theologiansw , Scholars , Preachers , Teachers , Reverends , Ministers , Rabbis , Pastors . of today are like the Pharisees , and the Sadducees at the time of Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ ''
The Gospel According to Matthew 23 ; 5 , Where It States , And I Quote ; But all their works they do for to be seen of men ; they make broad their Phylacteres and enlarge the borders of their garments . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
In this day in times these principlites in high places are the Law-Makers and Lawbreakers . Today , there are Religious Public Figures Who Commit Abominations Like ( Revered Jimmy Swaggart and Revered Jim Bakker , that are against the beliefs of the entire Christians population. Yet , contributions come by the Millions to their orgaizations , Saul , Shaool , Paul and his father were of the Jebusites ( Euro-Jews ) and Jacobites ( mixed seed of Yaqov , Ya'aqub , Jacob's pure seed ; fake Jews ) .
They have been deceiving people since before Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' time . In 1John 2 ; 14 - 19 , Click here: 1John 2 ; 14 - 19 :: Arabic/English Online Bible we see them as the moneychangers in the Synagogue when Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' turned over tables . This type of disrespect is still demonstrated by the Euro-Jews you see today ,
those that have diluted the original laws and customs and continue to adhere to a Man-made doctrine . The only true Hebrews who still follow the old laws are the Falash-har , The Tribe of Yehudaw , Yahudah , Judah , The Nubians , Blacks
, Negroids Seed , the remnant of the original tribes , who reside in Ethiopia and moved up to Nubia . |
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