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Topic: According to Christian Doctrine / Teaching About L
Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Subject: According to Christian Doctrine / Teaching About L
Date Posted: 21 February 2014 at 5:13pm
http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Acts+1&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Acts 1 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
 
Because the recorders of The Gospels wrote what They Heard as Opposed  to what they saw . None of the recorders of The Synoptic Gospel were present after they fled to The Garden . Yashu'a  called Twelve Men to Discipleship , Our of the Twelve Two of them  wrote their Version of the Crucifixion . John son of Zebedee's account is Fact , Where as the other , Gospel's accounts are Tales . The other Two Writers  of The Gospel , Luke , And Mark, weren't Disciples .  Why is it that Peter has no record of The Crucifixion , And he was there to see everything that happen . He never even recorded the fact that he denied Yashu'a Three Times . In Paul's Book , He mentions something about The Crucifixion , But he doesn't actually say that Yashu'a died on the cross .
 
The fact is , The Synoptic Gospels are writings of what these Men Were Told  by way of Mouth , None of the Disciples were present and Mark and Luke weren't Disciples at all . Mark was a Judahite  from Jerusalem ; And a property owner . His mother Mary was a supporter of The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a  teaching and thus open her home to The Disciples and their followers for it to serve as their gathering place .
 
John joined The Disciples Barnabas and Saul, Shaool , Paul The 13th Self -Appointed Apostle , On their first Missionary Journey , 47-48 A.D. , And travelled to The Greek Isle of Antioch to propagate the word of The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a  to The Lost Sheep Of The House of Israel . He served as Minister to Barnabas and Paul and was considered a Deacon or Servant . Who adided them . Mark also served as an Interpreter and attendant to  Saul, Shaool , Paul . He would Translate  Saul, Shaool , Paul's Sermons into Greek so that the Gentiles could understand .
 
Mark Eventually left the first missionary journey and returned to Jerusalem . The caused dissension between Barnabas and Paul . Paul resented Mark leaving him and would not allow him to go on the second Missionary journey . However Barnabas insisted that he come . Barnabas and Paul ended up going their separate ways .
 
Luke was a Greek Physician  who was a companion of Paul on his second journey to Teach The Gentiles. He also accompanied Paul on the third missionary journey whose destination was Rome . Luke was also a well -travelled man with knowldge of navigation and was a great writer . He was able to bridge the gap between The Jews ( Jebusites of Canaan ) and the Gentiles . He taught that The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a was a Universal Savior . The other Books of the New Testament aside from The Book of Revelation ; Acts of The Apostles and The Twenty -One Epistles were written by Luke and Paul . The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a did not inscribe any of these books nor were they Divinely Inspired . They , Like Synoptic Gospels
, ( Are Words Of Men ) And therefore should not be trusted .
 
Contradiction Of Luke .
 
( 1 ) . Holy Ghost bestowed the day of Pentecost ( Acts 1;8 , 2;4 ) ...... Holy Ghost bestowed before Pentecost ( John 20 ; 22 ) .
 
( 2 ) . Luke says the disciples were instructed to go to Jerusalem and stay there . ( Luke 24 ; 49 ) .......The disciple were commanded to go to Galilee immediated after the resurrection ( Matthew 28 ; 10 ) .
 
( 3 ) . Luke says the disciples were instructed to go to Jerusalem and stay there ( Luke 24;49 ..... Matthew says it was Galilee on a mountain . ( Matthew 28 ; 16 ) .
 
( 4 ) . Luke and his friend ( Paul ) said the promised land never belonged to anyone . ( Acts 7;5 / Hebrew 11 ; 9.13 ) ..... Abraham's seed dod receive the promised land ( Genesis 13;14 ./ Genesis 13;15 ,17 ; 17;8 )
 
( 5 ) . Christ's mission was one of peace , Only ( Luke 2 ; 13 , 14 ) . Not so says Matthew . ( Matthew 10;34 ) .
 
( 6 ) . A Good name is a Curse says Luke , ( Luke 6;26 ) .... A Good name is a Blessing , ( Ecclesiastes 7 ; 1  , Proverbs 22 ; 1 ) .
 
( 7 ) . Abraham bought land for Sepulchre . ( Acts 7 ; 16 ) ....... Jacob purchased it says Joshua ( Joshua 24 ; 32 ) .
 
( 8 ) . Importunity ( Persitence ) in prayer is commended ( Luke 18 ; 5 , 7; 11;8 ) ..... Repetitious prayers are condemned ( Matthew 6 ; 7-8 ) .
 
( 9 ) . Women are in subjection to their Husbans ( 1Peter 3 ; 1 ) ...... Women can Prophesy . ( Acts 2;18 , 21 ; 9 ) , Contradicts Paul ( 1Corinthians 14 ; 24 , ( 1Timothy 2;12 ) .
 
( 10 ) . If you break the Law or Disobey The holy sporit you are a sinner . ( Mark 3;29 ) ,..... All that Believe have Sins of the Laws of Moses taken away ( Acts 13 ; 39 ) .
 
( 11 ) . Luke says Satan entered into Judas before the supper . ( Luke 22;3,4,7 ) ....... Satan entered Judas during the last supper , ( John 13 ; 27 ) .
 
( 12 ) . Luke says Judas purchased the Potter's field . ( Acts 1;18 ) ..... Matthew says the chief priests purchased the potters ( Matthew 27 ; 6 , 7 ) .
 
(13 ) . More than three Women came to The Sepulchre , ( Luke 24 ; 10 ) , ...... Just three Women came to The Sepulchre says Mark ( Mark 16 ; 1 ) .
 
(14 ) . Two men stood by The Sepulchre says Luke . ( Luke 24 ; 4 ) , ...... Only one man sat beside The Sepulchre  says Matthew ( Matthew 28 ; 2-3 ) .
 
( 15 ) . Luke said that Salah was the son of Cainan ( Luke 3 ; 34,36 ) , ....... Salah was the son of Arphaxad , ( Genesis 11; 12 ) .
 
( 16 ) . The infant Christ  was not taken into Egypt , ( Luke 2;22,39 )  ......  The infant Christ  was taken into Egypt . ( Matthew 2 ; 14 , 15 , 19 , 21 , 23 ) .
 
( 17 ) . Christ's first Sermon was in the plain . ( Luke 6 ; 17 , 20 ) , ..... Christ preached his first Sermon on the mount , Matthew 5 ; 1,2 ) .
 
Luke contradicts himself ;
 
* Christ ascended from Mount Olive ( Acts 1 ; 9 -12 ) .
* He says , ''No , I mean from Bethany ( Luke 24 ; 50 - 51 ) .
* Sell you garments to buy A Sword ( Luke 22 ; 36 ) .
* The same man change his mind ( Luke 12 ; 4 ) .
* Luke tells of Paul's vision , He said; The men heard a voice and stood speechless ( Acts 9 ; 7 ) .
* The men saw a light , But heard no voice ( Acts 22;9 ) .
* No , They all heard a voice ( Acts 26 ; 14 ) .
 
What it all boils down to Luke wrote The Book of Acts to verify Saul, Shaool , Paul The 13th Self -Appointed Apostle , '' calling '' . He contradicts the events of the ''Calling '' Three times . Its in The Bible !!! Luke's words are not to be trusted !! He wrote his own Opinions ( Yes,Opinions! ) of what actually took place during Yashu'a Ministry . Dates confirm that The Books of Acts was Written 27 Years  After The Alleged Crucifixion . The Book of Luke was Written 25 Years after that .
 
Therefore , He was Never Present at any of The Events He Wrote About . Luke 's only Movtive was to Gain Fame and Recognition for himself . Luke's opportunity arrived when  Saul, Shaool , Paul The 13th Self -Appointed Apostle , ( His Friend ) , Claimed Aposteship and eventual inclusion of The Gentiles to the Covenant . Can't you see ? The foundation that the Churches are Built is like the House that was carelessly Built On Top Of Sand . ( Matthew 7 ; 26-27 )
 
Mark Proclaimed ( Disciple of The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a ..... Luke Proclaimed ( Disciple of The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a .....
 
Luke Never got his calling from Yahuwa He did his Own Thing according to his Own Book !
 
The Gospel According to Luke 1 ; 1-4 , Where It States ; And I Quote ; Forasmuch as many have taken in hand ( To Set Forth In Order a declaration of those things Which Are Most Surely Believe among us . ( 2 ) .Even as they delivered then unto us . which from the beginning were eyewitnesses , and Minister of the Word . ( 3 ) . It seemed good to me also have had perfect understanding of all things From The Very First to write unto thee in order , most excellent Theophilus  ( 4 ) . That thou mightest know the certainty of those things , wherein thou hast been instructed . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 


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One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .




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Posted By: Lachi
Date Posted: 22 February 2014 at 5:09pm
Some interesting points. That the Gospels are not eye witness accounts, and contain contradictions, is self evident just by reading them. But the Gospel of Luke was written before the Acts of Apostles, and whilst the Gospels are contradictory over sequences or location of events, do they not all record the words of Jesus? Is not the message of Jesus the important thing?


Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 23 February 2014 at 7:17am
Originally posted by Lachi Lachi wrote:

Some interesting points. That the Gospels are not eye witness accounts, and contain contradictions, is self evident just by reading them. But the Gospel of Luke was written before the Acts of Apostles, and whilst the Gospels are contradictory over sequences or location of events, do they not all record the words of Jesus? Is not the message of Jesus the important thing?
 
First The Prophet / Messiah Isa son of Mary Nevever said anything the Bible Matthew , Mark , Luke , John  said The Prophet / Messiah Isa son of Mary said this that or the other . But
 
Lakum Diinukum Wa -Ya Diin = '' You will have your decision , And I will have mine .


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One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .



Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 23 February 2014 at 8:12am
Originally posted by Al Saadiqeen21 Al Saadiqeen21 wrote:

http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Acts+1&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Acts 1 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
 
Because the recorders of The Gospels wrote what They Heard as Opposed  to what they saw . None of the recorders of The Synoptic Gospel were present after they fled to The Garden . Yashu'a  called Twelve Men to Discipleship , Our of the Twelve Two of them  wrote their Version of the Crucifixion . John son of Zebedee's account is Fact , Where as the other , Gospel's accounts are Tales . The other Two Writers  of The Gospel , Luke , And Mark, weren't Disciples .  Why is it that Peter has no record of The Crucifixion , And he was there to see everything that happen . He never even recorded the fact that he denied Yashu'a Three Times . In Paul's Book , He mentions something about The Crucifixion , But he doesn't actually say that Yashu'a died on the cross .
 
The fact is , The Synoptic Gospels are writings of what these Men Were Told  by way of Mouth , None of the Disciples were present and Mark and Luke weren't Disciples at all . Mark was a Judahite  from Jerusalem ; And a property owner . His mother Mary was a supporter of The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a  teaching and thus open her home to The Disciples and their followers for it to serve as their gathering place .
 
John joined The Disciples Barnabas and Saul, Shaool , Paul The 13th Self -Appointed Apostle , On their first Missionary Journey , 47-48 A.D. , And travelled to The Greek Isle of Antioch to propagate the word of The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a  to The Lost Sheep Of The House of Israel . He served as Minister to Barnabas and Paul and was considered a Deacon or Servant . Who adided them . Mark also served as an Interpreter and attendant to  Saul, Shaool , Paul . He would Translate  Saul, Shaool , Paul's Sermons into Greek so that the Gentiles could understand .
 
Mark Eventually left the first missionary journey and returned to Jerusalem . The caused dissension between Barnabas and Paul . Paul resented Mark leaving him and would not allow him to go on the second Missionary journey . However Barnabas insisted that he come . Barnabas and Paul ended up going their separate ways .
 
Luke was a Greek Physician  who was a companion of Paul on his second journey to Teach The Gentiles. He also accompanied Paul on the third missionary journey whose destination was Rome . Luke was also a well -travelled man with knowldge of navigation and was a great writer . He was able to bridge the gap between The Jews ( Jebusites of Canaan ) and the Gentiles . He taught that The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a was a Universal Savior . The other Books of the New Testament aside from The Book of Revelation ; Acts of The Apostles and The Twenty -One Epistles were written by Luke and Paul . The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a did not inscribe any of these books nor were they Divinely Inspired . They , Like Synoptic Gospels
, ( Are Words Of Men ) And therefore should not be trusted .
 
Contradiction Of Luke .
 
( 1 ) . Holy Ghost bestowed the day of Pentecost ( Acts 1;8 , 2;4 ) ...... Holy Ghost bestowed before Pentecost ( John 20 ; 22 ) .
 
( 2 ) . Luke says the disciples were instructed to go to Jerusalem and stay there . ( Luke 24 ; 49 ) .......The disciple were commanded to go to Galilee immediated after the resurrection ( Matthew 28 ; 10 ) .
 
( 3 ) . Luke says the disciples were instructed to go to Jerusalem and stay there ( Luke 24;49 ..... Matthew says it was Galilee on a mountain . ( Matthew 28 ; 16 ) .
 
( 4 ) . Luke and his friend ( Paul ) said the promised land never belonged to anyone . ( Acts 7;5 / Hebrew 11 ; 9.13 ) ..... Abraham's seed dod receive the promised land ( Genesis 13;14 ./ Genesis 13;15 ,17 ; 17;8 )
 
( 5 ) . Christ's mission was one of peace , Only ( Luke 2 ; 13 , 14 ) . Not so says Matthew . ( Matthew 10;34 ) .
 
( 6 ) . A Good name is a Curse says Luke , ( Luke 6;26 ) .... A Good name is a Blessing , ( Ecclesiastes 7 ; 1  , Proverbs 22 ; 1 ) .
 
( 7 ) . Abraham bought land for Sepulchre . ( Acts 7 ; 16 ) ....... Jacob purchased it says Joshua ( Joshua 24 ; 32 ) .
 
( 8 ) . Importunity ( Persitence ) in prayer is commended ( Luke 18 ; 5 , 7; 11;8 ) ..... Repetitious prayers are condemned ( Matthew 6 ; 7-8 ) .
 
( 9 ) . Women are in subjection to their Husbans ( 1Peter 3 ; 1 ) ...... Women can Prophesy . ( Acts 2;18 , 21 ; 9 ) , Contradicts Paul ( 1Corinthians 14 ; 24 , ( 1Timothy 2;12 ) .
 
( 10 ) . If you break the Law or Disobey The holy sporit you are a sinner . ( Mark 3;29 ) ,..... All that Believe have Sins of the Laws of Moses taken away ( Acts 13 ; 39 ) .
 
( 11 ) . Luke says Satan entered into Judas before the supper . ( Luke 22;3,4,7 ) ....... Satan entered Judas during the last supper , ( John 13 ; 27 ) .
 
( 12 ) . Luke says Judas purchased the Potter's field . ( Acts 1;18 ) ..... Matthew says the chief priests purchased the potters ( Matthew 27 ; 6 , 7 ) .
 
(13 ) . More than three Women came to The Sepulchre , ( Luke 24 ; 10 ) , ...... Just three Women came to The Sepulchre says Mark ( Mark 16 ; 1 ) .
 
(14 ) . Two men stood by The Sepulchre says Luke . ( Luke 24 ; 4 ) , ...... Only one man sat beside The Sepulchre  says Matthew ( Matthew 28 ; 2-3 ) .
 
( 15 ) . Luke said that Salah was the son of Cainan ( Luke 3 ; 34,36 ) , ....... Salah was the son of Arphaxad , ( Genesis 11; 12 ) .
 
( 16 ) . The infant Christ  was not taken into Egypt , ( Luke 2;22,39 )  ......  The infant Christ  was taken into Egypt . ( Matthew 2 ; 14 , 15 , 19 , 21 , 23 ) .
 
( 17 ) . Christ's first Sermon was in the plain . ( Luke 6 ; 17 , 20 ) , ..... Christ preached his first Sermon on the mount , Matthew 5 ; 1,2 ) .
 
Luke contradicts himself ;
 
* Christ ascended from Mount Olive ( Acts 1 ; 9 -12 ) .
* He says , ''No , I mean from Bethany ( Luke 24 ; 50 - 51 ) .
* Sell you garments to buy A Sword ( Luke 22 ; 36 ) .
* The same man change his mind ( Luke 12 ; 4 ) .
* Luke tells of Paul's vision , He said; The men heard a voice and stood speechless ( Acts 9 ; 7 ) .
* The men saw a light , But heard no voice ( Acts 22;9 ) .
* No , They all heard a voice ( Acts 26 ; 14 ) .
 
What it all boils down to Luke wrote The Book of Acts to verify Saul, Shaool , Paul The 13th Self -Appointed Apostle , '' calling '' . He contradicts the events of the ''Calling '' Three times . Its in The Bible !!! Luke's words are not to be trusted !! He wrote his own Opinions ( Yes,Opinions! ) of what actually took place during Yashu'a Ministry . Dates confirm that The Books of Acts was Written 27 Years  After The Alleged Crucifixion . The Book of Luke was Written 25 Years after that .
 
Therefore , He was Never Present at any of The Events He Wrote About . Luke 's only Movtive was to Gain Fame and Recognition for himself . Luke's opportunity arrived when  Saul, Shaool , Paul The 13th Self -Appointed Apostle , ( His Friend ) , Claimed Aposteship and eventual inclusion of The Gentiles to the Covenant . Can't you see ? The foundation that the Churches are Built is like the House that was carelessly Built On Top Of Sand . ( Matthew 7 ; 26-27 )
 
Mark Proclaimed ( Disciple of The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a ..... Luke Proclaimed ( Disciple of The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a .....
 
Luke Never got his calling from Yahuwa He did his Own Thing according to his Own Book !
 
The Gospel According to Luke 1 ; 1-4 , Where It States ; And I Quote ; Forasmuch as many have taken in hand ( To Set Forth In Order a declaration of those things Which Are Most Surely Believe among us . ( 2 ) .Even as they delivered then unto us . which from the beginning were eyewitnesses , and Minister of the Word . ( 3 ) . It seemed good to me also have had perfect understanding of all things From The Very First to write unto thee in order , most excellent Theophilus  ( 4 ) . That thou mightest know the certainty of those things , wherein thou hast been instructed . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
 
 
Paul write the Letters of the New Testament , There was 14Letters in all written by paul ( The 13th Self-Appointed Apostle ) describing to them His Nature and The Laws which governs him . This Law is the Law of Sin . Letters of Paul -14 Letters .
 
( 1 ) . Romans 56 A.D. - Was a Letter to The Romans .
( 2 ) . 1Corinthians 55 A.D. - The second letter written by Paul addressed to the Church of Corinth .
 
( 3 ). 21Corinthians 55 A.D. - The same as above .
( 4 ) .Galatians 52 A.D. - Written to Churches of Galatia .
( 5 ) . Ephesians 61 A.D. - Paul ministry at Ephesus written to the Church of Ephesus .
( 6) . Phillipian 61 A.D. - Writtin to the Church of Phillpi .
( 7 ) . Colossians 61 A.D. -Addressed to the Church Colisse .
(8 ) . 1Thessalonians 50 A.D. - Written at Corinth .
( 9 ) . 2 1Thessalonians 50 A.D. - Written at Corinth
( 10 ) . 1Timothy 64 A.D. - Consist of council and exhotation to a young Pastor .
( 11 ) . 2Timothy 64 A.D - Written from Rome .
( 12 ) . Titus 64 A.D. - Contains information about Titus a Gentile , And beloved frined of Paul .
(13 ) . Philemon 61 A,D. - A private letter of intercession written for Rome and sent to Philemon at Colosse .
 
( 14 ) . Hebrew 61 A.D. - Written to Hebrew Christian .
 
Make note that in ( One ) of his Letters , He proves that He's ( The Malevolent One ) In physical manifestation in the Flesh ( Roman 7 ; 24 , Romans 7; 18 , Also refer to Romans 7;14-25 ) . http://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+7&version=KJV - Click here: Romans 7 - Passage Lookup -
 


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One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .



Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 23 February 2014 at 11:12am
Greetings Al-Saadiqeen,

You do understand that the followers of Yshwe(known as Jesus) were mostly unlearned men(fishermen and common folk) so just like Muhammad they could not write down their accounts, someone else had to do it for them.  They are still eyewitness accounts.  All of the Disciples were present for the teachings of Yshwe.
The new testament also contains the book of James(believed brother of Yshwe).

Salaam,
CLynn

I don't have a lot of time to research all that you have written but regarding your point 1)
In the gospel of John where it says that Yshwe told them to receive the Holy Spirit, I only read this as Yshwe telling them to receive... it says nothing about them receiving the Holy Spirit at that time.  The disciples actually received the Holy Spirit at Pentacost.  In fact Yshwe had already told them that the Holy Spirit would not come until He Himself had left them.


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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever
"I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis


Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 23 February 2014 at 12:12pm
http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Exodus+1+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Exodus 1 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
 
Hebrew - aramic - , Exodus 1 ; 15 , 16 , 19 , ( Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. ) Where It States ;  And Seti I , the ruler of < Mitsrayim - aramic > 'Egypt ' said to the < Ibree - aramic > 'Hebrew ' < Yawlad - aramic > Midwives of which the name of the first one was Shifrah , Shiphrah '' brightness '' , and the name of the other one was < Fuah - aramic >  ( Puah ) ' to glitter '. Verse 16 , And he said , when you give birth to a child as a midwife to the < Ibree - aramic > Hebrew and see them upon the birthstool ; if it be a < Bane -aramic > 'Male Child , then you are to < Mooth -aramic > Kill him , but if it is a bath female child , then she will < Khawyahee - aramic > Live . Verse 19 . And the midwife said to the Pharaoh ' because the < Ibree - aramic > Hebrew female living beings are not as the Egyptian female living being ; for they are lively , and will give birth before the mideives come to them . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Exodus 2 ; 7 , 11  ( Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. ) Where It States ; Then said this sister Miriam to Pharaoh's daughter , Bithiah '' saw the ark among the flags '' will I go forth and call for you a nurse of the < Ibree - aramic > Hebrew female living being that she may nurse that child for you ? Verse 11 . And in time in those days , when Moses was grown , that he went out to his < Awkh - aramic > Brother , and looked on their burden ; And he spied on an < Mitsree - aramic > Egyptian male living being striking a < Ibree - aramic > Hebrew , one of his < Awkh - aramic > Brothers .< King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Exodus 21 ; 2 ,   ( Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. ) Where It States ; If a < Gawnab - aramic > Thief is found breaking up , and being hit that he < Mooth -aramic > Dies , there will no < Dawm - aramic > Blood he shed for him . .< King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
The word Hebrew in Aramic ( Hebrew ) is < Ibriy - aramic > Which means '' To Cross Over , To Pass Over '' , It comes from the root word < Abar - aramic > Meaning '' To Cross Over '' And its the same in the Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic )  language , < Ibriy - arabic > Meaning '' The Other Side Or Cross Over '' . HEBREW is just a title for what Abraham and his people did , Not What They Were .
 
The word '' Hebrew '' Is a Title that was attributed to Abraham when he traveled from the Ur Of Chaldees , And '' Crossed '' A strip of land called Mesopotamia nestled between the Tigris and the Euphrates Rivers ( Genesis 12 ; 6 , 14 ; 13 ) .
 
 Genesis 12 ; 6 , Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. Where It States ;  And Abram passed through that part of the Planet Earth to the place of Sichem the back of the dhoulders , a city called Nablus today in Palestine , to the oak of Moreh , place of teachings '' . And the Canaanites were then living in that part of the Planet Earth . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Genesis 14 ; 13  Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. Where It States ;  And there came one that had escaped and reported all this to Abram the < Ibriy - aramic > Hebrew the one who crossed over ( Hebrew ) ; Who was living near a sacred tree in the plain of Mamre '' fatness '' the mountain dweller Mamre and his brothers Eshcol '' cluster , and his brother Aner '' a young man ; And these were the allies of Abram . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
The Canaanite tribe of Sidon who mixe in with the Assyrians witnessed Abraham crossing the Tigris -Euphrates River , And Ibriy - '' One Who Passes Over ''
 
Tigris - Euphrates , Where Abraham crossed and was called a Hebrew ; One Who Passes Over
 
 
Jacob - Aramic - Israrel - Aramic - Exodus 1 ; 1 , ( Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. ) Where It States ; And These Beinf Are The Names Of The Son's If Israel , Which Came Into < Mitsrayim - aramic > 'Egypt ; Every Male Living Being And His Household Came With Jacob . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Exodus 2 ; 24  , ( Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. ) Where It States ; And The Eloheem Listened To Their Groaning , And The Eloheem Remembered His < Bereeth - aramic > Covenant With Abraham , With Isaac , And With Jacob . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Exodus 3 ; 6  , ( Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. ) Where It States ;  He Said , ''I Am The Elohe Of Your Father The Elohe Of Abraham , The Elohe Of Isaac ; The Elohe Of Jacob And Moses < Sawthar - aramic > Hid 'He Face For He Was < Yawray aramic > Afraid To < Nawbat - aramic > Look Down Upon The Eloheem . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Exodus 4 ; 5  , ( Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. )  Where It States ; That They May Have Faith That Yahuwa Elohe Of Their Fathers , The Elohe Of Abraham , The Elohe Of Isaac , And The Elohe Of Jacob , Have Made Himself < Rawaw - aramic > Seen 'to you .< King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
 Exodus 6 ; 3  , ( Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. )  Where It States ; And I Made Myself < Rawaw - aramic > Seen ' To Abraham And To Isaac , And To Jacob By El  Shaadi , The Almighty ,But By My Name Yahuwa , I Was Not < Jawdah - aramic - > Know To Them . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Exodus 19 ; 3  , ( Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. )  Where It States ; And Moses Went Up To The Eloheem , And Yahuwa < Qawraw - aramic > Called , To Him Out Of < Har -aramic > Mountain Saying , Thus Will You Say To The House Of Jacob , And Tell The Children Of Israel . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Exodus 32 ;1 3  , ( Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. )  Where It States ; Remember Abraham , Isaac , And Israel , Your Male Slaves , To Whom You < Shawbah - aramic > Swore By Your Own Self , And Said To Them , I Will < Rawbaw -aramic > Your < Zehrah - aramic > Yielding Seed As The < Kokawb - aramic > Star's Of The < Shawmahyim -aramic > Sky And All This Part Of The Planet Earth That I Have < Dawbar > Spoken Of Will I Give To Your < Zehrah - aramic > Yielding Seed , And They Will < Nawkhal -aramic - > Inherit It For < Owlam> Everlasting . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Jacob meaning '' Supplanter '' , Was the son of Isaac and Rebecca , From Jacob , came The Nation Of Israel or The Isralites ( 25 - 23  ; 35 ; 11 ) ,
 
Exodus 25 ; 23   , ( Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. )  Where It States ; You Are Also To Make A < Shoolkhawn - aramic > Table Of  Shittaw 'Acacia Ates Wood ; Two Cubites Will Be Its Length And A Cubit Will Be Its Wideness , And A Cubit , And A Half The Height Of It . 18 Inches Wide And 27 Inches High .  < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Exodus 35 ; 11    , ( Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. )  Where It States ; The < Mishkawn - aramic > Dwelling Place , Its < Ohel -aramic > Tabernacle , Its covering its clasps , And Its Boards , its bars pillars , and its sockets . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Jacob was the beloved of his mother Rebbecca . In Genesis 25 ; 30 - 34 , Where It States ; And Esau said to Jacob , < Lawat - aramic > Feed Me I Plead , Beg Of You , From That Same < Ha -Awdome - aramic > The Reddish ' Ha-Awdome The Reddish Brown Stuff ( Stew ) , For I Am < Awyate - aramic > Exhausted ; Therefore Was His Nick Name < Qawraw - aramic > Called Edome 'Edom ; From Adam Meaning , Earthling From Reddish Brown Soil , Because He Repeated The Red Stuff Twice . Verse 31 . And Jacob Said , < Mawkar - aramic > Sell Me First Your Birthright ( Blessings ) , All The Rights To The Wealth And Priesthood Of The Family ', Verse 32 , And Esau Said , Behold , I Am About To < Mooth -aramic > Die ' And What Profit Will The < Bekoraw - Brithright  ( Blessing ) Do To Me ? Verse 33 . And Jacob Said , < Shawbah - aramic > Swear ; To Me First ; And He < Shawbah - Aramic > Swore To Him ; And He < Mawkar - aramic > Sold ' His < Bekoraw - aramic > Birthright ( Blessing ) To Jacob . Verse 34 . And Jacob Gave Esau < Lekhem - aramic > Bread And Reddish Brown < Nawzeed - aramic > Stew ; And He Ate And Drank , And Rose Up , And Went His Way ; So Esau < Bawzaw - aramic > Despied His < Bekoraw - aramic > Blessing . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 


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Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 23 February 2014 at 12:22pm
http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Exodus+1+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Exodus 1 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
 
Jacob running from Esau ( His Brother ) , Because Esau sold his birthright to him over a bowl of red pottage lentils and bread . Jacob then received the blessing from his father , Isaan , Because his mother Rebecca took one of Esau's clothing and put it on him . She also put Goat Sking around his Hands and Neck so his Father Isaac would think that it was Esau ,
 
Genesis 27 15 , Where It States ; And Then Rebecca Took Her < Gawdole - aramic > Eldest < Bane - aramic > Son's Esau Most Precious < Behged - aramic > Clothing Which Were With Her In The House , And < Lawbash - aramic > Put Them On Jacob Her < Qawtawn -aramic > Younger < Bane -aramic > Son . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Esau hated Jacob , So he promised to kill him after his father died Rebecca Overhead Esau talking , And told her son to go to haran with her brother Laban ,
 
Genesis 27 ; 41 - 43 , Where It States ; And Esau < Sawtam - aramic > Hated Jacob Because Of The < Berawkaw - aramic > Blessing His < Awb - aramic > Gave Him ; And Esau Said In His < Labe - aramic > Heart , The Days Of < Aybale -aramic > Mourning For My < Awb - Arabic - >Father Is < Qawrab - aramic > Coming Near ; Then I Will < Hawrag - aramic > Kill My < Awkh - arabic > Brother Jacob . Verse 42 , And These Words Of Esau The < Gawdole - aramic > Eldest < Bane - aramic > Son , Were Told To Rebecca ; And She < Shawlakh - aramic > Sent And < Qawraw - aramic > Called For Jacob , Her < Qawtawn - aramic > Younger Son , And Said To Him , ''Behold , Your < Awkh - aramic > Brother 'Esau , Is Planning Revenge To < Hawrag - aramic > Kill You . Verse 43 , So Now , My < Bane - aramic > Son , < Shawmah - aramic > Obey My Voice ; And < Qoom -aramic > Get Up , And < Bawrakh - aramic > Flee At Once To My < Awkh - aramic > Brother , Laban In Haran . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
In the process of trying to run from his Brother Esau , Jacob was stopped by what '' Followers Of The King Jame Bible , Called '' An Angel '' that was obviously in ( Human Form ) in order for Jacob to be able To Wrestle With Him . Jacob Wrestled with what ,
 
Genesis 32 ; 24 , Where It States ; And Jacob Was Left Alone And There < Awbaq - aramic > Wrestled A < Eesh - aramic > Male Living Being , The Eloheem With Him Until The Breaking Of < Shakar - aramic > The Dawn ' Because He Was Running Away In Fear .  < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Refers to as , In the Aramic / Hebrew language an < Eesh - aramic > meaning '' Male Living Being , Physical Man '' , After the fight at Peniel ,
 
Genesis 35 ; 25 , Where It States ; And The < Bane - aramic > Sons 'of Rachel's Slave Bilhan Were Dan Who Had A Confidante Wife Named Kaniti And Naftali Who Had A Confidante Wife Named Debirah .  < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
He was blessed and his name was changed to Israel meaning '' Yahuwa Prevails , Genesis 35 ; 10 , Where It States ; And One Of The Eloheem Said To Him , Your Name Is Jacob , Your Name Shall Not Be < Qawraw - aramic > Called Jacob Anymore , Israel Will Be Your Name And The Eloheem < Qawraw - aramic > Called His Name Israel .  < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Banee Israaiyl or the Israelites are descendants of Jacob / Israel . The word Israel is .. Describing An Incident of A Messenger of Yahuwa , Or Angels as you may say Prevailing over Jacob in a Fight .
 
Isaac - aramic - > Exodus 2 ; 24   , ( Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. )  Where It States ; And The Eloheem Listened To Their Groaning , And The Eloheem Remember His < Bereeth - aramic > Covenant With Abraham , With Isaac , And With Jacob . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Exodus 3 ; 6 , 15 -16    , ( Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. )  Where It States ; He Said , I Am The Elohe Of Your Father The Elohe Of Abraham , The Elohe Of Isaac ; The Elohe Of Jacob , And Moses < Sawthar 'Hid His Face ; For He Was < Yawray - aramic > 'Afraid To < Nawbat - aramic > Look Down Upon The Eloheem . Verse 15 . And The Eloheem Said Moreover To Moses , Thus Will You Say To The Children Of Israel , Yahuwa Elohe Of Your Fathers , The Elohe Of Abraham , The Elohe Of Isaac , And The Elohe Of Jacob Have Sent Me Forth To You ; This Is My Name < Olawm - aramic > The Everlasting , And This Is My < Zayker - aramic > Remembrance To Your Future Generations . Verse 16 , Go Forth , And Gather The < Zawqane - aramic > Elders of Israel Together , And Say To Them , Eloheem , Yahuwa Elohe Of Your Fathers , The Elohe Of Abraham , Of Isaac , And Of Jacob , Made Himself < Rawaw - aramic > Seen To Me , Saying , I Have Surely < Fawkad - aramic - > Visited You , And Seen That Which Is Done To You In < Mitsrayim - aramic > Egypt .  < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Exodus 6 ; 3 , 8 , ( Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. )  Where It States ; And I Made Myself < Rawaw - aramic > Seen To Abraham And To Isaac , And To Jacob By El Shaadi , The Almighty  , But By My Name A Yahuwa , I Was Not < Yawdah - aramic > Known To Them . Verse 8 . And I Will Bring You Into That Part Of The Planet Earth , Which I Did < Nawsaw - aramic - > Give It To Abraham , To Isaac , And To Jacob ; And I Will < Nawsaw - aramic - > Give It To You For A < Moraawshaw - aramic > Possession ; I Am Yahuwa . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Exodus 32 ; 13 ,  Revealed  1512 B.C.E. )  Where It States ; Remember Abraham , Isaac , And Israel , Your Male Male Slaves , To Whom , You < Shawbah - aramic > Swore By Your Own Self , And Said To Them , I Will < Rawbaw - aramic > Multiply Your < Zehrah - aramic > Yielding Seed As The < Kokawb - aramic > Star's Of The < Shawmahyim - aramic -> Sky , And All This Part Of The Planet Earth  That I Have < Dawbar - aramic > Spoken Of Will I Give To Your < Zehrah - aramic - > Yielding Seed , And They Will < Nawkhal -aramic > Inherit It For < Owlam - aramic > Everlasting . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Exodus 33 ; 1  Revealed  1512 B.C.E. )  Where It States ; And Yahuwa Spoke To Moses , Depart , Ascend Up , You And The Nation Of People That You Have Brought Up Out Of The Part Of The Planet Earth Of < Mitsrayim - aramic > Egypt , To The Part Of The Planet Earth Of Which I < Shawbah - aramic > Swore To Abraham , To Isaac , And To Jacob , Saying , To Your < Zehrah - aramic > Yielding Seed Will I < Nawthan - aramic > Give It ; < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Isaac - aramic - or Yitskhaq means '' He Who Laughs , In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) his name is Ishaaq - arabic > Koran 2 ; 136 , Where It States ;  Tell Them This , ( Muhammad ) And His Followers Have Faith In Allah , And What He Sent Down To Us , ( The Qur'aan ) And What He Sent Down To Abrawhawn And Yishmael And Yitschaq , And Ya'aqob And The Tribes And What Was Given To Mosheh , ( The Torah ) And Isa The ( Revelations And What Was Given To The < Anbiyaa - arabic > Newsbearers , From Their Rabb Master , We ( Muhammad And His Followers ) Do Not ( Nufarriqu - arabic ) Make Any Distinction Between Any Of Them And We Muslimuwn Surrender In Peace To Him .
 
He is the second Son of Abraham , By his first Wife / Sister Sarah . The Prophet Isaac received The Covenant Of Promise or Prophethood . Genesis 17 ; 21 , Where It States ;  And My < Bereeth - aramic > Covenant Will I Establish With Isaac , Whom Sarah Will Bear To You At This Season In The Next Year . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Was a promise that was not necessary to be fulfilled because Abraham was willing to sacrifice his son Isaac  ( Genesis Chapter 22 ) .
 
Verses 1 - 14 , Is speaking of ( The Sacrifice ) . Verses 15 -19 , Is speaking of ( Isaac Is Spared ) .
Verses 20 - 24 , Is speaking of ( Nahor's Descendants ) ....
 
The promise that Abraham seed were to inherit The Land of Canaan was also part of the Convenant of Promise in Genesis 12 ; 1 - 2 , Where It States ;  And Yahuwa Said To Abram '' The Exalted Father '' , Go For Thyself Out Of Your Part Of The Planet Earth Of Ur Of Chaldea , And From Your Blood Relatives , The Syrian Chaldeans And From Your Father Terah's House , Who Was A Chaldean To The Part Of The Planet Earth That I Will < Rawaw - aramic > Show 'You . Verse 2 . And I Will Make Of You Abram A < Goee - aramic -> Gentile Nation Of  < Gawdole - aramic > Many , And I Will < Bawrak - aramic > Bless You , And Make Your Name Known By Many . And You Will Be A < Berawkaw - aramic > Blessing ' . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Through him came the Israelites .
 
 


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Posted By: iec786
Date Posted: 24 February 2014 at 8:19am
Hi Caringheart,

The Gospels were not given by the Holy Ghost.Mark wrote and Matthew and Luke cribed it.

Mat did not write Mathew
Mark did not write Mark and Luke did not write Luke and John did not write John these are all anonymous books.

greetings Ismail


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 25 February 2014 at 4:02pm
Originally posted by iec786 iec786 wrote:

Hi Caringheart,

The Gospels were not given by the Holy Ghost.Mark wrote and Matthew and Luke cribed it.

Mat did not write Mathew
Mark did not write Mark and Luke did not write Luke and John did not write John these are all anonymous books.

greetings Ismail

Greetings Ismail,

It would be helpful if you could understand and think of these books as...
the testimony of Mark,
the testimony of Matthew,
the testimony of Luke,
the testimony of John,
regardless of who put pen to paper.

Muhammad did not write down the words of the qur'an, and neither did God... it took men to put pen to paper, yet you do not say these words did not come from God or His eyewitness, Muhammad.

The difference we have here is that you only have Muhammad to testify to his own witness,
whereas, with the Christian scriptures you have the testimony and witness of many, many people.

Salaam and blessings to you,
Caringheart


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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever
"I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis


Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 25 February 2014 at 5:25pm
According to Christian Doctrine / Teaching .
 
Death To Followers Of Other Religions ; - Exodus 22 ; 20 ,  States And I Quote ; He That Sacrificeth  unto Any God  save unto the Lord Only  , he Shall Be Utterly Destroyed .   < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Kill Nonbelievers ; -  2Chronicles 15 ; 12 - 13 , States And I Quote ;  And they entered into a Covenant  to seek the Lord God  of their Fathers  with all their heart and with all their soul . Verse 13 . That whosoever would Not Seek The Lord God Of Israel Should Be Put To Death whether small or great whether Man or Woman . < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Kill False Prophets ; -  Zechariah 13 ; 3 ,States And I Quote ; And it shall come to pass , that when Any  shall yet Prophesy  , then his Father  and his Mother  that Begat Him  shall say unto him , Thou Shalt  not Live  for thou Speakest Lies  in the Name  of the Lord ; and his Father  and his Mother  that Begat Him  Shall Thrust Him Through  when he Prophesieth  < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Kill The Entire Town If One Person Worships Another God ; -   Deuteronomy 13 ; 13 - 19 , States And I Quote ; Certain Men  the Children  of Belial  are gone out from among you , and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city , saying . Let us go and Serve Other Gods which ye have not known . Verse 14 . Then shalt thou inquire , and make search , and Ask Diligently and , behold , if it be Truth and the Thing certain , that such abomination Is Wrought Among  you . Verse 15 . Thou Shalt  surely Smite The Inhabitants Of That City  with the Edge Of The Sword Destroying It Utterly , and all that is therein , and the Cattle  thereof , with the Edge Of The Sword  . Verse 16 . And thou Shalt Gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof , and Shalt Burn With Fire The City ,  And all the spoil thereof every Whit  for the Lord Thy God ;  and it shall be an heap Forever it shall not be built again . Verse 17 . And there shall cleave Naught  of the Cursed Thing to thine hand ; that the Lord  may turn from the fierceness of his anger , and show thee mercy , and Have Compassion  upon thee , and multiply thee , as he Hath Sworn  unto thy fathers ; Verse 18 . When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the Lord Thy God , to keep all his commandments which I Command   thee this Day  to do that which is right in the eyes of the Lord Thy God . < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night ;-   Deuteronomy 22 ; 20 - 21 , States And I Quote ; But if this Thing  be True ,  and the tokens of Virginity  be not found for the Damsel . Verse 21 . They they shall bring out the Damsel  to the door of her Father's House ,  and the Men of Her City  shall Stone Her With Stones  that she Die  , Because she Hath Wrought  folly in Israel , to Play The Whore  in her father house ; so shalt thou evil way from among you . < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Kill Followers Of Other Religions ; -  Deuteronomy 13 ; 7 - 12 ,States And I Quote ; Namely of the gods of the People  which are round about you night unto thee , or far off from thee , from the one end of the Earth even unto the other end of the earth . Verse 8 . Thou Shalt  not Consent  unto him , nor Hearken  unto him ; neither shall thine eye pity him , neither shalt thou spare , neither Shalt thou Conceal  . Verse 9 . But thou shalt surely kill him  thine Hand  shall be First upon him to Put Him To Death , and afterwards the hand of all the people . Verse 10 .
And thou shalt stone him with stones that he Die  , because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God , which brought thee out of the land of Egypt , from the house of bonfage . Verse 11 . And all Israel Shalt Hear  and fear , and shall do no more any such Wickedness as this is among you . Verse 12 . If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities which the Lord thy God  hath given thee to dwell there , saying . < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Deuteronomy 17 ; 2 - 5 , States And I Quote ; If there be found Among  you within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giveth thee , Man  or Woman that Hath Wrought Wickedness in the sight of the Lord thy God in Transgressing  his Covenant . Verse 3 . And haith gone and Served other gods and Worshiped them either the sun , or moon , or any of the Host of Heaven which I Have  not Commanded . Verse 4 . And it Betold thee , and thou Hast Heard of it , and inquired Diligently and behold , it be true , and the thing certain ; that such abomination is wrought in Israel , Verse 5 . Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman , which have committed that Wicked thing , unto thy gates , even that man or that woman , and shalt stone them with stones , till they Die . < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Death For Blasphemy ;- Leviticus 24 ; 10 -16 , States And I Quote ; And the son of an Israelitish Woman whose father was an Egyptain , went out among the children of Israel and this son of the Israelitish woman and a man of Israel  strove together in the Camp . Verse 11 . And the  Israelitish woman's son Blasphemed the name of the Lord  and Cursed  . And they brought him unto Moses ; ( and his mother's name was Shelomith , the daughter of Dibri , of the Tribe of Dan ; ) . Verse  12 . And they put him in ward that the Mind of the Lord might be showed them . Verse 13 . And the Lord spake unto Moses saying . Verse 14 . Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp ; and let all that Heard  him lay their Hands upon his Head  and let all the Congregation stone him . Verse . 15 . And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel , saying , Whosoever  Curseth  his God Shalt Beat  his sin . Verse 16 . And he that Blasphemeth  the name of the Lord , he shall surely be put to death , and all the congregation shall certainly stone him ; as well the Stranger  as he that is born in the land , when he Blasphemeth  the name of the Lord , Shall Be Put To Death . < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Kill False Prophets ; -  Deuteronomy 13 ; 1 - 5 , States And I Quote ; If there arise Among you a Prophet  or a dreamer of dreams , and giveth thee a Sign   or a wonder , Verse 2 . And the sign or the wonder come to pass , whereof he Spake unto thee saying , Let us go after other gods which thou Hast  not Known  and let us Serve  them . Verse 3 . Thou Shalt  not Hearken  unto the Words  of that Prophet ,  or that dreamer of dreams ; for the Lord  your God Proveth you , to know whether ye Love  the Lord  your God  with all your Heart  and with all your Soul .
Verse 4 . Ye shall walk after the Lord  your God . and Fear  him and Keep  his commandments , and Obey his voice , and ye shall serve him , and cleave unto him . Verse 5 . And that Prophet  , or that dreamer of dreams , Shall Be Put To Death  because he Hath Spoken  to Turn  you Away from the Lord  your God which brought you out of the land of Egypt  , and Redeemed  you out of the House  of Bondage  to thrust thee out of the Way which the Lord  thy God Commanded thee to walk in . So shalt thou put the Evil  away from the midst of thee . < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Deuteronomy 18 ; 20 - 22 , States And I Quote ; But the Prophet , which shall presume to speak a word in my name ,which I have not commanded him to speak , or that shall speak in the name of other gods  even that Prophet shall die . Verse 21 . And if thou Say  in thine heart , How Shall we Know the word which the Lord hath not spoken . Verse 22 . When a Prophet speaken in the name of the Lord , if the thing follow not , nor Come To Pass  , that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken , but the Prophet  hath spoken it Presumptuously thou Shall  not Be Afraid of him . < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 26 February 2014 at 11:34am
Yes, the old testament is very much like what Muhammad brought.

That is why we have the new covenant of Yshwe...

and should not go backwards.


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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever
"I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis


Posted By: Lachi
Date Posted: 26 February 2014 at 11:46am
Originally posted by Al Saadiqeen21 Al Saadiqeen21 wrote:

Originally posted by Lachi Lachi wrote:

Some interesting points. That the Gospels are not eye witness accounts, and contain contradictions, is self evident just by reading them. But the Gospel of Luke was written before the Acts of Apostles, and whilst the Gospels are contradictory over sequences or location of events, do they not all record the words of Jesus? Is not the message of Jesus the important thing?


First The Prophet / Messiah Isa son of Mary Nevever said anything the Bible Matthew , Mark , Luke , John� said The Prophet / Messiah Isa son of Mary said this that or the other . But


Lakum Diinukum Wa -Ya Diin = '' You will have your decision , And I will have mine .


If this is true, then we have no record of what Jesus said. How can the Quran say that the Christians have the Gospel of Jesus if that Gospel does not exist?


Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 26 February 2014 at 3:46pm
Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:

Yes, the old testament is very much like what Muhammad brought.That is why we have the new covenant of Yshwe...and should not go backwards.




Yes,
but it is interesting that Christians have attached Old Testament with the New Testament and called it the Holy Bible and count it as one book from one source, yet they differ and contradict each other both in contents and basic beliefs. The followers of Old Testament refuse and reject Jesus the Messiah, and the New Testament altogether. While you (Christians) made Messiah into God thus leaving the orbit of truth and all norms of basics of belief in Oneness of God against the teachings of the Old Testament.
This needed a big time correction and fixing. Loving God, blessed his rebellious creation again, with the Final Testament, the Quran. The only one book that teaches that all the prophets like Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus and Mohammed (peace be upon them all) were preaching the same belief, the worship of One God, or Al-Islam.
Hasan


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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62



Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 26 February 2014 at 5:01pm

 



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One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .



Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 26 February 2014 at 5:56pm
Originally posted by Al Saadiqeen21 Al Saadiqeen21 wrote:

According to Christian Doctrine / Teaching .
 
Death To Followers Of Other Religions ; - Exodus 22 ; 20 ,  States And I Quote ; He That Sacrificeth  unto Any God  save unto the Lord Only  , he Shall Be Utterly Destroyed .   < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Kill Nonbelievers ; -  2Chronicles 15 ; 12 - 13 , States And I Quote ;  And they entered into a Covenant  to seek the Lord God  of their Fathers  with all their heart and with all their soul . Verse 13 . That whosoever would Not Seek The Lord God Of Israel Should Be Put To Death whether small or great whether Man or Woman . < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Kill False Prophets ; -  Zechariah 13 ; 3 ,States And I Quote ; And it shall come to pass , that when Any  shall yet Prophesy  , then his Father  and his Mother  that Begat Him  shall say unto him , Thou Shalt  not Live  for thou Speakest Lies  in the Name  of the Lord ; and his Father  and his Mother  that Begat Him  Shall Thrust Him Through  when he Prophesieth  < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Kill The Entire Town If One Person Worships Another God ; -   Deuteronomy 13 ; 13 - 19 , States And I Quote ; Certain Men  the Children  of Belial  are gone out from among you , and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city , saying . Let us go and Serve Other Gods which ye have not known . Verse 14 . Then shalt thou inquire , and make search , and Ask Diligently and , behold , if it be Truth and the Thing certain , that such abomination Is Wrought Among  you . Verse 15 . Thou Shalt  surely Smite The Inhabitants Of That City  with the Edge Of The Sword Destroying It Utterly , and all that is therein , and the Cattle  thereof , with the Edge Of The Sword  . Verse 16 . And thou Shalt Gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof , and Shalt Burn With Fire The City ,  And all the spoil thereof every Whit  for the Lord Thy God ;  and it shall be an heap Forever it shall not be built again . Verse 17 . And there shall cleave Naught  of the Cursed Thing to thine hand ; that the Lord  may turn from the fierceness of his anger , and show thee mercy , and Have Compassion  upon thee , and multiply thee , as he Hath Sworn  unto thy fathers ; Verse 18 . When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the Lord Thy God , to keep all his commandments which I Command   thee this Day  to do that which is right in the eyes of the Lord Thy God . < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night ;-   Deuteronomy 22 ; 20 - 21 , States And I Quote ; But if this Thing  be True ,  and the tokens of Virginity  be not found for the Damsel . Verse 21 . They they shall bring out the Damsel  to the door of her Father's House ,  and the Men of Her City  shall Stone Her With Stones  that she Die  , Because she Hath Wrought  folly in Israel , to Play The Whore  in her father house ; so shalt thou evil way from among you . < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Kill Followers Of Other Religions ; -  Deuteronomy 13 ; 7 - 12 ,States And I Quote ; Namely of the gods of the People  which are round about you night unto thee , or far off from thee , from the one end of the Earth even unto the other end of the earth . Verse 8 . Thou Shalt  not Consent  unto him , nor Hearken  unto him ; neither shall thine eye pity him , neither shalt thou spare , neither Shalt thou Conceal  . Verse 9 . But thou shalt surely kill him  thine Hand  shall be First upon him to Put Him To Death , and afterwards the hand of all the people . Verse 10 .
And thou shalt stone him with stones that he Die  , because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God , which brought thee out of the land of Egypt , from the house of bonfage . Verse 11 . And all Israel Shalt Hear  and fear , and shall do no more any such Wickedness as this is among you . Verse 12 . If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities which the Lord thy God  hath given thee to dwell there , saying . < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Deuteronomy 17 ; 2 - 5 , States And I Quote ; If there be found Among  you within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giveth thee , Man  or Woman that Hath Wrought Wickedness in the sight of the Lord thy God in Transgressing  his Covenant . Verse 3 . And haith gone and Served other gods and Worshiped them either the sun , or moon , or any of the Host of Heaven which I Have  not Commanded . Verse 4 . And it Betold thee , and thou Hast Heard of it , and inquired Diligently and behold , it be true , and the thing certain ; that such abomination is wrought in Israel , Verse 5 . Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman , which have committed that Wicked thing , unto thy gates , even that man or that woman , and shalt stone them with stones , till they Die . < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Death For Blasphemy ;- Leviticus 24 ; 10 -16 , States And I Quote ; And the son of an Israelitish Woman whose father was an Egyptain , went out among the children of Israel and this son of the Israelitish woman and a man of Israel  strove together in the Camp . Verse 11 . And the  Israelitish woman's son Blasphemed the name of the Lord  and Cursed  . And they brought him unto Moses ; ( and his mother's name was Shelomith , the daughter of Dibri , of the Tribe of Dan ; ) . Verse  12 . And they put him in ward that the Mind of the Lord might be showed them . Verse 13 . And the Lord spake unto Moses saying . Verse 14 . Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp ; and let all that Heard  him lay their Hands upon his Head  and let all the Congregation stone him . Verse . 15 . And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel , saying , Whosoever  Curseth  his God Shalt Beat  his sin . Verse 16 . And he that Blasphemeth  the name of the Lord , he shall surely be put to death , and all the congregation shall certainly stone him ; as well the Stranger  as he that is born in the land , when he Blasphemeth  the name of the Lord , Shall Be Put To Death . < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Kill False Prophets ; -  Deuteronomy 13 ; 1 - 5 , States And I Quote ; If there arise Among you a Prophet  or a dreamer of dreams , and giveth thee a Sign   or a wonder , Verse 2 . And the sign or the wonder come to pass , whereof he Spake unto thee saying , Let us go after other gods which thou Hast  not Known  and let us Serve  them . Verse 3 . Thou Shalt  not Hearken  unto the Words  of that Prophet ,  or that dreamer of dreams ; for the Lord  your God Proveth you , to know whether ye Love  the Lord  your God  with all your Heart  and with all your Soul .
Verse 4 . Ye shall walk after the Lord  your God . and Fear  him and Keep  his commandments , and Obey his voice , and ye shall serve him , and cleave unto him . Verse 5 . And that Prophet  , or that dreamer of dreams , Shall Be Put To Death  because he Hath Spoken  to Turn  you Away from the Lord  your God which brought you out of the land of Egypt  , and Redeemed  you out of the House  of Bondage  to thrust thee out of the Way which the Lord  thy God Commanded thee to walk in . So shalt thou put the Evil  away from the midst of thee . < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Deuteronomy 18 ; 20 - 22 , States And I Quote ; But the Prophet , which shall presume to speak a word in my name ,which I have not commanded him to speak , or that shall speak in the name of other gods  even that Prophet shall die . Verse 21 . And if thou Say  in thine heart , How Shall we Know the word which the Lord hath not spoken . Verse 22 . When a Prophet speaken in the name of the Lord , if the thing follow not , nor Come To Pass  , that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken , but the Prophet  hath spoken it Presumptuously thou Shall  not Be Afraid of him . < King James Version ( Hebrew - Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
 
 
The 13th self - appointed apostle ( 10 A.D. -67 A.D. ...
 
According to What you didn't know about the By-Bill - Bible . by J.Carter Swaim , Ph.D., D.D.Bell Publishing Company New York on page 353, Saul , Shaool , Paul is descoribed as , ''An early apocryphal work , The Acts of The 13th self - appointed apostle Saul , Shaool , Paul
 
and Thekla '' describes him thus ; Aman of middling size , and his hair was scanty , and his legs were a little crooked , and his knees were far aparts ; he had large eyes ,and his eyesbrows met and his nose was somewhat long.
 
Also , in The Lost Books of the By-bill -bible  , translated from the original tongues in 1820 A.D. first published by William Hone's collection , last published by Bell Publishing Company New York , with forward by Shelomoh , Sulaiman , Solomon J . Schepps ; in the book titled Paul The 13th self - appointed apostle and Thecla Chapter 1 Verse 6 - 7 , page 100 ,
 
6 They went in the King's highway to Lystra , and stood there waiting for him , comparing all who passed by , with that description which Titus had given them . 7 . At length they saw a man coming ( namely Paul ) of a low stature , bald ( or shaved ) on the head crooked thighs , handsome leg , hollow-eyed ; had a crooked nose .


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Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 26 February 2014 at 8:20pm
Greetings,

new
[testament] hidden in the old[testament]
old
[testament] revealed in the new[testament]

You can't have one without the other.  Smile
The mysteries (prophecies) written about in the old testament
were revealed in the coming of the new... Yshwe

Salaam and blessings.


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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever
"I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis


Posted By: iec786
Date Posted: 26 February 2014 at 10:09pm
Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:


Originally posted by iec786 iec786 wrote:

Hi Caringheart,

The Gospels were not given by the Holy Ghost.Mark wrote and Matthew and Luke cribed it.

Mat did not write Mathew
Mark did not write Mark and Luke did not write Luke and John did not write John these are all anonymous books.

greetings Ismail
Greetings Ismail,It would be helpful if you could understand and think of these books as...the testimony of Mark,the testimony of Matthew,the testimony of Luke,the testimony of John,regardless of who put pen to paper.Muhammad did not write down the words of the qur'an, and neither did God... it took men to put pen to paper, yet you do not say these words did not come from God or His eyewitness, Muhammad.The difference we have here is that you only have Muhammad to testify to his own witness, whereas, with the Christian scriptures you have the testimony and witness of many, many people.Salaam and blessings to you,Caringheart



HiCaringheart,
It would be helpful if you could understand and think of these books as...
the testimony of Mark,
the testimony of Matthew,
the testimony of Luke,
the testimony of John,
regardless of who put pen to paper.


So you admit that these are anonymous books and any Tom,Dick and Harry could be the authors.How can they then be reliable when one cribs from another that would plagiarizing and that is a crime or not for Christians???

Muhammad did not write down the words of the qur'an, and neither did God... it took men to put pen to paper, yet you do not say these words did not come from God or His eyewitness, Muhammad.

The difference we have here is that you only have Muhammad to testify to his own witness,


The answer is in your Bible.

When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak john 16:13

greetings to you
Ismail


   


Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 28 February 2014 at 7:55am
According To Christian Doctrine / Teaching , Why did The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) run from the Jews ( John 8 ; 57 - 59 ) , If The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) was Divine from the moment he was born .
 
The Gospel According to John 8 ; 57 - 59 , Where It States , And I Quote , Then said the Jews unto him Thou art not yet fifty years old . and hast thou seen Abraham ? ( 58 ) . Isa said unto them Verily , verily , I say unto you Before Abraham was I Am .  ( 59 ) . Then took they up stones to Cast at him ; but Isa hid himself , and went out of the Temple going through the midst of them ,and so passed by . < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Then Herod would not have made a threat to his life ( Matthew 2 ; 1-4 ) . Joseph and Maryam would not have to fell with The Child into Egypt ( Matthew 2 ; 13 ).
 
The Gospel According to Matthew 2 ; 1 - 4 , Where It States , And I Quote ; Now when Isa born in Bethlehem of Judea in the Day of Herod the King behold , there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem . ( 2 ) . Saying , Where is he That Is Born King of the Jews ? for we Have Seen his star in the east , and Are Come worship . ( 3 ) . When Herod the king Had Heard these things , he was troubled , and all Jerusalem With him . ( 4 ) . And when he Had Gathered .  ( 4 ) . And when he Had Gathered all the Chief Priests and Scribes of the people together , he denander of them where Isa sould be born .  < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
The Gospel According to Matthew 2 ; 13, Where It States , And I Quote ; And when they were departed behold , the angel of the Lord Appeareth  to Joseph  in a dream , saying Arise  and flee unto Egypt , and be thou there until I bring thee word ; for Herod  will seek the young child to Destroy him . < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
When was a seven year journey . And the many lives of Every Male Child that was Two Years  and Under would not have been lost , Tring to kill The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) because he was A Threat To Herod's Throne  ( Luke 1 ; 26 - 38 ) If The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) was to die on the cross at the age of 33 years old they couldn't kill him .
 
The Gospel According to Luke 1 ; 26 - 38 , Where It States , And I Quote ; And it Was Revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost , that he Should  not See Death  before he Had Seen the Lord Isa . ( 27 ) And he came by the Spirit into the Temple and when the parents Brought in the child Isa to do for him after the custom of the law . ( 28 ) . The Took he him Up in his arms , and Blessed Allah , and said , ( 29 ) . Lord  now Lettest  thou thy servant Depart in peace , according to thy Word . ( 30 ) . For mine eyes have seen thy Salvation . ( 31 ) . Which thou hast prepared before the Face of all People . ( 32 ) . A Light to Lighter the Gentiles , and the glory of thy people Israel . ( 33 ) . And Joseph and his mother marveled at those things which were spoken of him . ( 34 ) . And Simeon blessed them , and said unto Maryam his mother , Behold , this child Is Set for the fall and Rising Again of many in Israel and for a sign which shall be spoken against . ( 35 ) . ( Yea , a sword shall pierce through thy own Soul also ) that the Throughts of many hearts Maybe Revealed .( 36 ) . And there was one Anna , a Prophetess the daughter of Phauel , of the tribe of Aser she was of a great age , and Had Lived with a husband seven years from her virginity . ( 37 ) . And she was a widow of about fourscore and four years which Departed not from the Temple but Served Allah with Fasting and prayer night and day . ( 38 ) . And she coming that Instant gave thanks likewise unto the Lord , and spake of him to all then That Looked For Redemption . < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
If The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) was to die on the cross at the age of 33 Years Old they couldn't Kill Him As A Child , So They Wouldn't Have Had To Flee .  Why was he Trembling and Astonished Praying To Allah ( Acts 9;6  , Matthew 26 ; 39 ) .
 
The Acts of the Apostles 9 ; 6 , Where It States , And I Quote ; A he Trembling and Astonished , said , Lord  , what wilt thou have me to do ? And the Lord said unto him , Arise , and go into the city , and it shall be told thee , what thou must do . < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
The Gospel According to Matthew 26 ; 39 , Where It States , And I Quote ; And he Went a little father , and Fell on his Face and Prayed saying O my Father if it be possible Let  this cup Pass  from me nevertheless not as I will , but as thou wilt . < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
In Agnoy Praying more Earnestly and his sweat like great drops of blood falling ( Luke 22 ; 44 ) ? Was it in hopes to get Allah to Change His Mind Through His Prayers ? The cup that The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) was referring to was The Crucifixion . If The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) was destined to die at the age of 33 , Why did he hide himself ( John 12 ; 36 ) .
 
The Gospel According To Luke 22 ; 44 , Where It States , And I Quote ; And he said unto them These are the Words which I spake unto you , while I was yet with you , that all things must Be Fulilled which were written in the Law of Moses , and in the Prophet and in the Psalms , concerming me . < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
The Gospel According to John 12 ; 36  , Where It States , And I Quote , While ye have light , believe in the light , that ye may be the Children of light . These things spake Isa , and departed , and did hide himself from them . < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Why didn't Mary Magdalene , Who according to Christian Doctrine The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) cast 7 demons out of her ( Luke 8 ; 2 ) think that The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) was the gardener , How could she not have recognized the same man that cast 7 demons out of her .
 
The Gospel According To Luke 8 ; 2  , Where It States , And I Quote ; And certain women which had been Healed Of Evil Spirit and infrmities , Mary called Magdalene , out of whom Went Seven Devils < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) was in some kind of disguise ( John 20 ; 15 -17 ) Why did The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) have to disguise himself ?Did he think he could Escape The Destiny Of His Father / Allah , who had planned this for him ? did The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) tell his disciples to Buy Swords To Defend Themselves From The Sanhedrins, If he was suppose to die on the cross for your sins at the age of 33 years old ? ( Luke 22 ; 36 ) .
 
The Gospel According to John   20 ; 15 -17  , Where It States , And I Quote , Isa saith unto her , Women why weepest thou ? whom seekess thou ? She , supposing him to be the gardener , said unto him Sir  if thou Have Borne him hence , tell me where than hast laid him , and I will take him away . ( 16 ) . Isa said unto her , Mary . She turned herself , and saith unto him , Rabboni which is to say , Master . ( 17 ) . Isa saith unto her Touch me not l for I am not yet Ascended  to my Father but go to my Brethren and say unto them I Ascend unto my Father  and your Father  and to my Allah and your Allah .< King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
The Gospel According To Luke 8 ; 2  , Where It States , And I Quote ; Then he Isa said unto them ( His Disciples ) , But now , He that has a purse , Let him take it , And his leather sack likewise ; And he that has No Sword  , Let him sell his garment , And buy one . < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) , knew that alot of people wanted Him Dead , Because it was thought that he was a False Prophet / Messiah . Isa told his disciples To Buy Swords because he was afraid and didn't Want To Die A Horrifying Death Of Crucifixion . Isa really thought he was going To Die and had all Intention of fighting for his life with The Swords .Why did he Buy Swords if he was suppose to die on the cross ?
 
And why was Isa even depressed if he knew he was going to die ? He said that he came to do the will of the Father / Allah ( John 5 ; 30 ) . So , If  his father's will was that he die on the cross then why did Isa pray To Be Save From His Father's Will ? ( This Make No Sense At All !!!
 
The Gospel According to Mark 14 ; 34 , Where It States , And I Quote ; And saith unto them My Soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death tarry ye here , and watch . < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
And if you Christian try to say Isa did all of this because the time was not right , He still wouldn't have to do all of that because No One Could Have Been A Threat to his life if Allah said he was suppose to Die on The Cross at 33 years old Meaning No One Could Have ( Kill Him ) Up Until He Was 33 Year Old If Was Allah Will , No One Could Have Been Able To Interfere .
 
Christian want the world to Believe that Isa died to Remove Sin From The Word If this is true then he didn't accopmplish it because after his so called death , People Were Still Sinning , And It Hasn't Stopped Yet . The World Is Still Sinning . And if the purpose for '' Baptism Of Repentance Is For The Remission Of Sins is Afesis -greek meaning '' Forgiveness , Deliverance , Liberty , '' So does this also mean that Isa needed to be forgiven for something that he did wrong ???!!! According to Some Christian , Isa Was Allah Himself Which Means Their God  Is Capable Of Sinning .


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One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .



Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 01 March 2014 at 8:49am
Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:



Greetings,new[testament] hidden in the old[testament]old[testament] revealed in the new[testament]You can't have one without the other.� [IMG]smileys/smiley1.gif" align="absmiddle" alt="Smile" />The mysteries (prophecies) written about in the old testamentwere revealed in the coming of the new... Yshwe Salaam and blessings.





...closing your eyes from the reality and truth only will make them to 'pop' when the time comes, are you gonna wait for that?
You say Jesus is God, find me one verse in the OT where it says Messiah will be God. Find me one verse in the OT where God is described as in a Trinity. By God, in who's hand is my life you cannot. Thus we know who is dodging the truth and is utterly lost!
Hasan

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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62



Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 01 March 2014 at 10:32am
According To Christian Doctrine / Teaching , Jehovah - Yahweh , Yahuwa Etc send The Israelites to Egypt when they were in A Famine ,  According to ( Exodus 7 ; 2 ) Jehovah - Yahweh , Yahuwa Etc did ''Send '' The Israelites to Egypt to eat . Naturally . You see this as a Noble Deed . Okay , First let's look at it from Biblical point of view . If he is ''God '' Why would he have to '' Send '' The Israelites anywhere ? Why didn't he just produce Food for The Israelites ? That Is , Stop The Famine !
 
Why did he ''Send '' Them for food ? This Is For Food , Right ? Let's ask the question , Does God , Jehovah - Yahweh , Yahuwa Etc have to send you shopping ? Isn't Jehovah - Yahweh , Yahuwa Etc the Creator of Corn and Wheat ? Isn't it a matter of A Wave Of A Hand ?  It happened in Sodom , Jehovah - Yahweh , Yahuwa Etc , Waved His Hand And Sodom Was No More . ( Genesis 19 ; 24 ) . Or is it only when he wants to Hurt or Destroy that he uses his powers .
 
The Book of Exodus 7 ; 2 , Where It States , And I Quote . Thou shalt speak all that I Command thee ; and Aaron thy brother shall speak unto Pharaoh , that he send the Children of Israel out of his Land . < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
The Book of Genesis 19 ; 24 , Where It States , And I Quote ; Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah Brimstone and fire from the LORD out of Heaven < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
We Seem to have A ''God '' Here , That when it comes to Beating People Up , Birning Up Cities , Putting Plagues On People , Sending Them Frogs , And Boils ( Exodus Chapters 7 - 11 )  http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Exodus+7+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Exodus 7 :: Arabic/English Online Bible   And Plagues ( Exodus 9 ; 3-6 )  and Frogs ( Exodus 8 ; 5-9 ) . And drown Masses of Egyptians , Who by the way is also his chosen people being they come from ( Genesis 10;6 ) Where it speaks of Mizraim son of Ham son of Nosh ( Genesis 5 ; 32 ) Whom he loved . Yet he drowned his children in The Red Sea ( Exodus 14 ; 26 - 28 ) .
 
The Book of Exodus 9 ; 3 - 6 , Where It States , And I Quote ; Behold the Hand of the Lord  is upon thy cattle which is in the Field  upon the Horses , upon the Asses upon the Camels , upon the Oxen , and upon the Sheep ; there shall be very grievous Murrain . ( 4 ) . And the Lord Shall Sever between the cattle of Israel and the cattle of Egypt ; and there shall nothing die of all that od the Children's of Israel . ( 5 ) . And the LORD appointed a Set Time saying , Tomorrow the LORD shall do this things in the land . ( 6 ) . And the LORD did that thing on the morrow , and all the cattle of Egypt died ; but of the cattle of the children of Israel died not one . < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
The Book of Exodus   8 ; 5-9 , Where It States , And I Quote ; And the LORD spake unto Moses , Say unto Aaron , Stretch forth thine hand with thy Rod over the streams over the rivers , and over the ponds , and cause frogs to come up upon the land of Egypt . (6 ) . And Aaron stretched out his hand over the waters of Egypt and the frogs came up , and Covered  the land of Egypt . ( 7 ) . And the Magicians did so with their Enchantments and brought up frogs upon the land of Egypt . ( 8 ) . Then Pharaoh Called for Moses and Aaron , and said , Entreat the LORD , that he may take away the frogs from me , and from my people ; and I will let the people an , that they May Do Sacrifice  unto the LORD . ( 9 ) . And Moses said unto Pharach , Glory over me , when shall I entreat for thee , and for thy servants , and for thy people , to Destroy the frogs from thee and thy houses , that they May Remain in the river only . < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
The Book of Genesis 10;6 , Where It States , And I Quote , And the sons of Ham ; Cush , and Mizraim , and Phut ; and Canaan . < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
The Book of Genesis 5 ; 32 Where It States , And I Quote , And Noah was five hundred years old . and Noah begat Shem , Ham , and Japeth . < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
 The Book of Exodus 14 ; 26 - 28 , Where It States , And I Quote ; And the LORD said unto Moses , Stretch out thine hand over the sea , that the waters Waters Come Again upon the Egyptians , upon their chariots , and upon their horsemen . ( 27 ) . And Moses stretched forth his hand over the sea , and the sea Returned to his strength when the morning appeared and the Egyptians fled against it ; and the LORD Over -threw the Egyptians in the midst of the sea . ( 28 ) . And the waters returned , and Covered  the chariots and the horsemen , and all the host of Pharaoh that came into the sea after them ; there remained not so much as one of them . < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Although the Yahweh of the Christians By-Bill / Bible Was Killing Everybody On Behalf Of The Children Of Israel , He did deliver them when it was time ( Exodus 15;22 ) . Moses and The Children of Israel even Sang A Song in ( Exodus Chapter 15 ) http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Exodus+15&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Exodus 15 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
 
to their God for saving them and Killing All Of The Egyptians , Their Brothers That Were Chasing Them .  This is how The Christian God of The Old Testament Handled Things .
 
The Book of Exodus 15 ; 22 , Where It States , And I Quote ; So Moses brought Israel from the Red sea , and they went out into the wilderness of Shur and they went three days in the wilderness , and found no water . < King James Version ( Arabic  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 


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Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 07 March 2014 at 5:06pm
According to the Christians Doctrine / Teaching , The Crucifixion story It's A Fabrication of the story of another Crucifixion . The story of The Crucifixion is really the story of King David who himself was A Messiah . Even though he was Cruchified he did not Die On The Cross . So ,  The Crucifixion story was not of The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ the son of Maryam it was taken from The Psalms of David . If you go back to the book of ( Psalm 22;1 , 16 , 71; 18 , 20-22  http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Psalm+22&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Psalm 22 :: Arabic/English Online Bible ( Mark 15 ; 34 , http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Mark+15+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Mark 15 :: Arabic/English Online Bible and Matthew 27 ; 46 ) http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Matthew+27&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Matthew 27 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
 
The Book of Psalm 22 ; 1 , (  Hebrew Script ) Where It States , And I Quote , To The Conductor Of The Musician Of The Aijeleth '' Deer '' Of Shakhar '' The Dawn , The Evil One '' , Song Of David '' The Beloved '' My El, My El ,  Why Have You Left Me ? Why Are You So Far Off From Saving Me , And From The Words Of My Roaring . < King James Version ( Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
The Book of Mark 15;34 , Where It States , And I Quote , And At The 9th Hour Jesus Cried With A Big Voice Says '' Eli Eli Lama Sabakhthanee ? Which Is Being Interpreted My Thehos , Thehos , Why Have You Ley Me ? < King James Version ( Greek  ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
King David son of Jesse and Hilmah , It is the Same Declaration , Same Story Line , Just different Names . And to think this is supposed to be about The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ , The Son of Maryam  Jehovah - Yahweh , Yahuwa Etc , Being Nailed Up On The Cross , To Die For Your Sins and Yell Out Jehovah - Yahweh , Yahuwa Etc , '' My God , My God , Why Have Thou Forsaken Me ?''  It is understandable if it were just David saying this because according to religion he was A Mere Mortal , But not The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ , The Son of Maryam ,
 
He was the son Jehovah - Yahweh , Yahuwa , God Etc , and in some case Jehovah - Yahweh , Yahuwa , God Etc , Himself . It is suppose to be A Unique Line  because The New Translation of '' Jehovah - Yahweh , Yahuwa , God Etc So Loved The Word That He Sent His '' Only '' , They replaced '' Only '' with '' Unique '' In The New By -Bill / Bible . It says The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ , The Son of Maryam , was '' Unique '' in everything He Said and Did , Which made him Jehovah - Yahweh , Yahuwa , God Etc , They're saying , Right there ; That The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ , The Son of Maryam ,was suppose to be on The Cross , This here says Psalms if David , So they were written by Certain Ministers  or Priests for A Song ( Psalm ) and about David .
 
If you read on in Psalm Chapter 22 , http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Psalm+22&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Psalm 22 :: Arabic/English Online Bible They describe the Crucifixion , As Casting Lots For His Garment , The Nails In His Hand And Feet , Stabbing Him In The Side And Giving Him Bitter Water To Drink .
 
Thats your By-Bill / Bible Story , But take that to Church and Christians become an Anti -Christian , Take the truth to the Church  and you become A Blasphemer when it is Obvious that the entire Crucifixion Story as well as other Stories of the New Testament were just A Bunch Of Plagiarized ideas from The Book of Psalms rewritten as a play , Thats why you have Acts As All Plays Do . All you have to do is read The Four Gospels or ( Ghost Speel ) of Matthew , Mark , Luke , and John , And there you will find Your Conflicting Stories .
 
All of them give some kind of account of The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ , The Son of Maryam ,Life however , On is a little more dramatic than others , One may have something that the other doesn't , And it goes on and on . If you go right to The Book of Matthew he tries to prove that nearly every event in The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ , The Son of Maryam ,Life was foretold in The Old Testament and thus that is his evidence that Jesus was The Messiah , He just uses excerpts from The Old Testament that are so mysterious that they could mean just about anything .
 
Matthew Intentionally Alters Some Of The Scriptures , Changes Words , Capitalizing A Letter There - - - To Make Them Prove His Point . Take For Instance , The So-callede ( '' Immanuel '' Prophecy .  Matthew mention the book of Isaiah's '' Immanuel '' Prophecy ( Isaiah 7 ; 14-17 ) As proof that Jesus is The Messiah - - - Even though Isaiah didn't claim that Immanuel would be a Messiah
. The deception begins when Matthew changes Isaiah's words from ... http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Isaiah+7+%3B+14+-17+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Isaiah 7 ; 14 -17 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
 
The Book of Isaiah 7 ; 14 , Where It States , And I Quote ; Therefore The LORD ( Yahweh ) Himself Shall Give You A Sign ; Behold , A Virgin Shall Conceive , And Bear A Son , And Shall Call His Name Immanuel .
 
Meaning the Mother of the Child will call his Name Immanuel To...
 
The Book of Matthew 1 ; 23 , Where It States , And I Quote ; '' Behold , A Virgin Shall Be With Child , And Shall Bring Forth A Son , And They Shall Call His Name Emmanuel , Which Being Interpreted Is , God With Us .
 
Thats how it starts , They might add '' A ''  A Word here , Change A Word there , Which leaves open the Possibility that Immanuel's name could Actually be something Else - - Like Jesus which is what '' They '' called him '' Jesus '' 2 Verses Later in Matthew 1 ; 25 ,  http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Matthew+1&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Matthew 1 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
Thus , Another question arises , although Jesus which Christians say means '' Savior '' Is the distorted Greek way of saying the proper Hebrew name Joshua or Yashu'a which means '' Yahweh Is Salvatio'' . If the Prophesied Messiah's name was supposed to be Immanuel , Then why did they disobey their Lord and name him Jesus .
 
Immanuel was the son of Isaiah and Majia and although he had a few similarties with Yashu'a or Jesus as he is called in The New Testament . They were Born in two different eras of time and the Immanuel of the Book of Isaiah  couldn't have been prophecy of Jesus because The Immanuel son of Isaiah would have been that expected Messiah to come . Do you overstand ? Immanuel was ''A '' Messiah of his time because he was sent to deliver the house of David from the rulers of Syria and Israel ( Isaiah 7 ; 1-13 ) .  http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Isaiah+7+%3B+1+-+13+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Isaiah 7 ; 1 - 13 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
 
Immanuel Son of Isaiah and Majia , If you read a little further you will see that it was Prophesied that this person named Immanuel shall ,
 
Immanuel ....
1 . Eat Butter and Honey ( Isaiah 7 ; 15 ) ...... http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Isaiah+7+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Isaiah 7 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
2 . Know to Refuse Evil and choose Good ( Isaiah 7 ; 20 ) ....
3 . Shave his Beard ( Isaiah 7 ; 20 ) ....
4 . Live in an area ruled by Kings ( Isaiah 7 ; 1-20 ) ...
5 . Deliver the house of David ( Isaiah 7 ; 1;13 ) ....
 
Yashu'a ( Jesus )  ...
1 . Ate Meat ( Luke 24; 41 - 42 .... http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Luke+24&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Luke 24 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
2 . Waxed strong ; Until his mission was shown unto him ( Luke 1 ; 80 )  http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Luke+1&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Luke 1 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
3 . Was prohibited from shaving his beard ( Revelation 1; 14 ) http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Revelation+1+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Revelation 1 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
4 . Was brought up amongst Pharisees , Scribes and Caesars , Not Kings ,
5 . Was sent unto the lost sheep of the House of Israel ( John 16 ; 7 , Matthew 15 ; 22-24 ) But fail to deliver them http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=John+16+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: John 16 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Matthew+15+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Matthew 15 :: Arabic/English Online Bible  
 
As you can see , The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ , The Son of Maryam was '' Not '' Immanuel !!!!  Matthew makes an even Worst Corruption of The Old Testament when he claim that The Thirty pieces of Silver paid to Judas was predicted in the writings of Jeremiah , Jermiah wrote nothing of the sort ( Matthew 27 ; 9 ) . http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Matthew+27+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Matthew 27 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
 
Zechariah was the one who happened to mention The Thirty pieces of Silver in Zechariah 11 ; 12 - 13 , http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Zechariah+11+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Zechariah 11 :: Arabic/English Online Bible Matthew apparently remembered the passage but couldn't remember who wrote it .
 
The Book of Zechariah 11 ; 12-13 , Where It States , And I Quote ; And I Said Unto Them , If Ye Think Good , Give Me My Proce ; And If Not , Forbear So They Weighed For My Price Thirty Pieces Of Silver .
 
Now Read
 
Matthew 27 ; 9 - 10 , Where It States , And I Quote ; '' Then Was Fulfilled That Which Was Spoken By Jeremy The Prophet , Saying And They Took The Thirty Pieces Of Silver . The Price Of Him That Was Valued , Whom They Of The Children Of Israel Did Value ; And Gave Them For The Potter's Field , As The LORD Appointed .
 
And the phrase '' Thirty Pieces Of Silver . '' Is mentioned only 5 times in The Entire Bible and that is in The Book of Zechariah and The Book of Matthew . Is this A Coincidence I Don't Think So .  Look in Zechariah 11; 12 , 11;13 , http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Zechariah+11+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Zechariah 11 :: Arabic/English Online Bible ,  Matthew 26 ; 15 , 27 ; 3 , 27 ; 9 . http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Matthew+27+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Matthew 27 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
 


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One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .



Posted By: Lachi
Date Posted: 08 March 2014 at 2:32pm
Christians believe that the verses you quote from Psalms 22 prefigure and predict the crucifixion of Jesus. That they were written by King David just reflects God's great plan.


Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 09 March 2014 at 5:56am
Originally posted by Lachi Lachi wrote:

Christians believe that the verses you quote from Psalms 22 prefigure and predict the crucifixion of Jesus. That they were written by King David just reflects God's great plan.
 
Would care to show us here what the Christian's Believe According to the Christians Doctrine / Teaching ,Chapter and Verses of their By-Bill / Bible of Psalms ???
 
By the way 90% of the Christian World have no knowldge whatsoever of what their By-Bill / Bible are saying  nor do they overstand the language it was written in !!!!


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One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .



Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 13 March 2014 at 5:32am

According To Christian Doctrine / Teaching , The Book of Psalms Chapter - Twenty - Two ( David's Crucifixion ) , Where It States , And I Quote ;

Many Christians Claim that Verses of Psalms were written by The Prophet / Messiah , Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus , son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) , Yet how can a man be at his point of Death , And think about quoting quotes of someone else ? Or are you Christians saying that when The Prophet / Messiah , Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus , son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) , Came into the world , He was prophesied to say the same statement of David's Crucifixion as mentioned in ,
 
Psalms 22 ; 1 , When David , States '' .... My God ( El ) , My God ( El ) ,Why Has Thou Awzab ( Forsaken ) Men ? ...
 
It is the same statement that The Prophet / Messiah , Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus , son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) , So-called states on the cross in ..
 
Matthew 27 ; 46 , Where He States ; .... Eli , Eli , Lama ( Why ) Sabachthani ( Forsaken Me ) ? That Is To Say My God ( Thehos ) My God ( Thwhos ) , Why Hast Thou Forsaken ( Engkatalipo ) Me ?
 
The story of The Prophet / Messiah , Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus , son of Maryam ( Pbuh )' Crucifixion as fabricated by Christians was a replica of the true story of Davids Crucifixion , Now Davis was Crucified ( Mark 3 ; 25 ) . http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Mark+2+%3B+25+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Mark 2 ; 25 :: Arabic/English Online Bible   Because he was A Tyrant , which caused him to lose the respect of his people ; He danced in the street Naked  ( 2Samuel 6 ; 14-16 ) , http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=2Samuel+6+%3B+14-16+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: 2Samuel 6 ; 14-16 :: Arabic/English Online Bible , Got Uriah , Bathsheba's husband Killed  ( 2Samuel 12 ; 9 ) , And of his intense Homosexual Involvement  with Saul's son Jonathan .
 
1Samuel 20 ; 41 , Where It States , '' ..... They Cried Together And They Kissed One Another  .
 
David's downfall was disobeying the commandment of Yahuwa given to Abraham and his seed not to Marry  the Daughters of The Canaanites  in ( Genesis 24 ; 3 ) http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Genesis+24+%3B+3+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Genesis 24 ; 3 :: Arabic/English Online Bible And Marrying Bathsheba A Canaanite , Daughter of Eliam , Which resulted in Solomon being A Mulatto or as the Christians describe him in ( The Song of Solomon 5 ; 14 ) . http://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Song%20Of%20Solomon%205%20;%2014&version=KJ21 - Click here: Song Of Solomon 5 ; 14 - Passage Lookup as having a complexion which is Clear to be Ivory .
 
And his hair in The Song of Solomon 5 ; 11 , http://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Song%20Of%20Solomon%205%20;%2011&version=KJ21 - Click here: Song Of Solomon 5 ; 11 - Passage Lookup   is Black but like that of Raven which would be Straight Har , Not Woolly . Christians refer to him back in Song Of Solomon 5 ; 10 http://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Song%20Of%20Solomon%205%20;%2010&version=KJ21 - Click here: Song Of Solomon 5 ; 10 - Passage Lookup -   As White ( Tsakh ) and Ruddy ( Awdome ) , Which means '' Reddish '' , Eliam The father of Bathsheba was a Gilonite from the children of Heth as mention in ( Genesis 23 ; 5 ) http://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2023%20;%205&version=KJ21 - Click here: Genesis 23 ; 5 - Passage Lookup  Who were from The Canaanite Tribes that lived in and around Hebron . David committed Adultery with Bathsheba ,
 
And sent her husband Uriah To The Front Line To Be Killed  ( 2Samuel 11 ; 14 - 15 ) . http://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2Samuel%2011;%2014-15&version=KJ21 - Click here: 2Samuel 11; 14-15 - Passage Lookup Now David was Crucified , And make note of the Similarity in The Prophet / Messiah , Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus , son of Maryam ( Pbuh )' So-called Crucifixion , And by the way the concept for Crucifixion was taken from The Egyptians by the Romans as mentioned in . 
 
 The Holy Qur'aan 45 ; 71  , Where The Pharaoh States ; And I Will Have You Crucified On Trunks Of Palm Trees '' , David was also Crucified on a Tree as the custom of The Israelites , According to Deuteronomy 21 ; 22-23 http://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2021%20;%2022-23&version=KJ21 - Click here: Deuteronomy 21 ; 22-23 - Passage Lookup Which States , That A Man That Has Committed A Sin And Is Hung ( Tawlaw ) On A Tree ( Ayes -aramic ) Is Cursed Of Eloheem . And this Aramic ( Hebrew ) word for Tree ( Ates Or Atsa - ) Is the same word used in ( Genesis 2 ; 9 ) http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Genesis+2+%3B+9+&version=SVD&btn=View - Click here: Genesis 2 ; 9 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
 
For the Tree ( Ates - ) Of Good ( Tobe ) And evil ( Rah ) which Adam and Eve partook of . The Ashuric Syriac ( Arabic ) word is 'Asaa - arabic , Meaning 'Stick ', And we know that The Prophet / Messiah , Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus , son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) was Not Cursed for what he did as it states in John 19 ; 4 http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=John+19+%3B+14+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: John 19 ; 14 :: Arabic/English Online Bible And Luke 23 ; 14 , http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Luke+23+%3B+14+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Luke 23 ; 14 :: Arabic/English Online Bible But David was Accursed for what he did . David was Crucified at 12; 00 Noon on The Sabbath , And  The Prophet / Messiah , Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus , son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) was supposedly Crucified at The Sixth Hour ( John 19; 14 ) ,
 
In Psalms 22 ; 16 , Where It States , .... They Pierced ( Qawraw ) My Hands ( Yawd ) And My Feet ( Rehgel ) ... This would also Apply to  The Prophet / Messiah , Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus , son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) As mentioned in ..
 
John 19 ; 37 , Where It States , '' And Again another Scripture saith , They Shall Look On Him Who They Pierced , '' And as you can see it's even clearer in Psalms than it is in John , Because they literally declare they pierced my hands anf my feet , Rather than just they pierced him , While Christians proudly parade The Crucifixon if a man pierced in his hands and his feet . So if your didn't have that Psalms 22; 16 , How would the Artist have decided where he was pierced ? http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Psalms+22+%3B+16+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Psalms 22 ; 16 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
 
In Psalms 22 ; 18 , It States , '' They Part My Garments Amongst Them , And Cast Lots Upon My Vesture ''
 
And it is also supposedly of The Prophet / Messiah , Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus , son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) in Matthew 27 ; 35 , Where It States ;  And Parted His Garments , Casting Lots ; ... They Parted My Garments Among Them And Upon My Vesture Did They Cast Lots ''
 
You can see clearly that this was taken from Psalms . With the last breath , David said '' I Thirst ,And The Prophet / Messiah , Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus , son of Maryam ( Pbuh )Said in John 19 ; 28 , ... I Thirst '' In Psalms 69 ; 21` , David was given vinegar
 
Where It States ; ''They Gave Me Also Gall ( Rowsh ) For My Meat ( Bawrooth ) , For My Meat ( Bawrooth ) , And In My Thirst They Gave Me Vinegar ( Khomets ) To Drink ''
 
Which is exactly what they copied and said that The Prophet / Messiah , Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus , son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) Said in ...
 
Matthew 27 ; 34 ,Where It States ; They Gave Him Vinegar ( Ozos ) To Drink Mingled With Gall ( Kholay ) ....
 
The above quote in The New Testament are taken directly from the Psalms . It is clear that The Christians Crucifixion Story Was Really The Crucofixon Of David . The Soma Drink given to David enabled A Death Like States for several days and to Awaken Afterwards into an exhilarated state that lasted a few more days . After David was given The Soma , They assumed that he was Dead , So they did not break his legs . This is also mentioned about The Prophet / Messiah , Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus , son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) in ...
 
John 19 ; 33 , Where It States ; '' But When They Came To Jesus , And Saw That He Was Dead Already , They Brake Not His Legs .
 
David was pierced in his side by Noosoo with A Hasta as mentioned in Psalms 22 ; 14 , '' I Am Poured Out Like Water '' .
 
Which is exactly the same Adopted Story Of The Prophet / Messiah , Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus , son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) in ...
 
John 19 ; 34 , Where It Says ; But One Of The Soldiers With A Spear Pierced His Side , And Forthwith Came There Out Blood And Water '' .
 
Thus , The point remains that this is not A Recording of The Prophet / Messiah , Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus , son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) So-called Crucifixion , But the actual Crucifixion of David after he committed his Homo-Sexual Act with Saul's Son Jonathan as found in ( 1Samuel 20 ; 41 )  http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=1Samuel+20+%3B+4+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: 1Samuel 20 ; 4 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
 
Psalms Chapter Twenty ~ Two , My El , My El , Why Has Thou Left Me ?  Where It States , To the conductor of the musician on the Aijeleth '' deer '' of Shakhar ' the dawn , the evil one , song of David '' the beloved ' . My El my El , why have you Awzab 'Left me ? Why are you so far off from saving me , and from the words of my roaring ? Verse 2 . O my Eloh , I cry in the daytime , but you do not answer me ; and in the shadow hour season , and I am not silent . Verse 3 , But you are Kodesh 'holy O you that dwell in the praises of Israel ''Jacob '' . Verse 4 . Our fathers Bawtakh 'Trusted ' in you ; they Bawtakh 'Trusted , and you caused them to escape their misery . Verse 5 . They cried out to you and were able to slip away ; they trusted in you , and were not ashamed .
 
Verse 6 . But I am a maggot , and not a male living being ; a disgrace of the Adamites '' earthling '' , and despised amongst the Am 'Nation Of People . Verse 7 . All they that see me laugh at me to mock me ; they Fawtoor 'Open their Sawfaw 'Lips to talk about me , and they shake their heads , saying . Verse 8 . He Gawlal 'Rolled ' on Yahuwa that he would cause him to escape ; seeing he delighted in him , let him Nawtsal 'Deliver him . Verse 9 . For it is you that burst me forth out of the Behten 'Belly , you made me Bawtakh 'Trust ' when I was upon my mothers Shd 'Breast ( also another word used for ( demon ) . Verse 10 . I  was thrown upon you from the Rekhem 'Womb ; for you are my El from my mother's Behten 'Belly .
 
Verse 11 . Do not be far from me , for trouble is near ; for there is no one to Awzar 'Help me . Verse 12 . Many Far 'Young Bulls' have surrounded me ; strong bulls of Bashan ''Fruitful - a district east of Jordan '' have encircled me . Verse 13 . Their mouths parted open on me , as a lion Shawag ''Roaring ' and Tawraf 'Tearing . Verse 14 . I am Shawfaq 'Poured ' out like water '' they stab me '' and all of my Eh'tsem 'Bones are Fawrad 'Separated , out of its joints . My heart is like wax; and it is melted in the middle of my Mayaw 'Bowels . Verse 15 . My human Koakh 'Strength is Yawbashe 'Dried Up' like an earthen vessel; and my Lawshone 'Tongue Dawbaq 'Cleaves to my Malqoakh 'Jaws ; and you have put me into the Awfawr 'Dust of Mawweth 'Death.
 
Verse 16 . For Kehleb 'Dogs have Sawbab 'Surrounded ' me and the congregation of the Rawah 'Disagreeable Ones have compassed me ; they Kawraw 'Dug holes into my Yawd 'Hands and my Rehgel 'Feet ''crucified me '' Verse 17 . I can Sawfar 'Count 'all my Eh'tsem 'Bones ; they look and stare at me ''as I hang on the cross. Verse 18 . They Khawlak 'Divided my Behged 'Garments amongst them , and cast Gorawl 'Lots on my Lebossh 'Clothes . Verse 19 . Do not be far from me , O Yahuwa , O my Ehyawlooth 'Fortitude , hasten to Ezraw 'Help me . Verse 20 . Nawtsal 'Deliver my Nehfesh 'Spirit from the Khehred 'Sword ; and my only one from the power of yje Yawd 'Hands ' of the Kehleb 'Dog .
 
Verse 21 . Yawshah 'Save me from the Aree 'Young Lion's mouth ; for you have Awnaw 'Answered me from the Qehren 'Horns 'of the Rehame 'Unicorns . Verse 22 . I will Sawfar 'Count ' your Shame 'Name to my Awkh 'Brothers ; in the middle of the Qawhawl 'Congregation I will Hawlal 'Praise you . Verse 23 . You that Yawray 'Fear Yahuwa Hawlal 'Praise him you that are from the Zehrah 'Yielding Seed of Jacob '' supplanter '' Khawbad 'Honor ' him and Goor 'Sojourn with him all you that are from the  Zehrah 'Yielding Seed of Israel that is Jacobs children '' ascend to El . Verse 24 . For he has not despised nor made the poorest of the poor abominable ; neither has he Sawthar 'Concealed his face from him ; but when he Shawwah 'Cried ,Out to him for help , he heard . Verse 25 . My Tehhillaw 'Praise will be of you in the Rab 'Great Qawhawl 'Congregation ; I will make my peaceful Nehder 'Vows in front of them that Yawray 'Fear him .
 
Verse 26 . The Awnaww 'Humble will eat and be satisfied ; they will Hawlal Praise Yahuwa that seek him ; your heart will live foe ever . Verse 27 . All the ends of the Planet Earth will Zawkar 'Remember and return to Yahuwa and all the blood relatives of the Goee 'Gentile Nation will Shawkhaw 'Prostrate ' in prayer in front of you . Verse 28 . For the Melookaw 'Kingdom is Yahuwa and he is the one who has Mawshal 'Power over the Goee 'Gentile Nation . Verse 29 . All of them that are fat upon the parts of the Planet Earth will eat and Shawkhaw 'Prostrate ' in prayer ; and all of them that descends to the Awfawr 'Dust of the ground will Kawrah 'Kneel in front of him ; and no one can keep his own Nehfesh 'Spirit alive . Verse 30 . A Zehrah 'Yielding Seed will Awbad 'Serve him , it will be accounted to the Adonai '' master '' for a Dore 'Generation. Verse 31 . They will come , and they will make his living as a Zpdoqites '' in righteousness '' known to Am ' Nation Of People that will be Yawlad 'Given Birth to , that he has done this . < King James Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >


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One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .



Posted By: Lachi
Date Posted: 18 March 2014 at 3:31pm
As you so clearly show, the words of Psalm 22 beautifully fit the crucifixion of Jesus as recorded in the Gospels.

But as to King David being crucified - can you show me in Scripture where it says he was hung in response to his relation with Jonathan? David and Jonathan were not homosexual, nor did David dance naked in the streets.

1 Kings 15:5 "because David did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite."

And even though God frowned upon David and Bathsheba, still was King Solomon (the son of David and Bathsheba) chosen by God to rule a united kingdom and build his temple. He was blessed by God as his son. Solomon was the son of God.


Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 18 March 2014 at 10:20pm
Originally posted by Lachi Lachi wrote:

As you so clearly show, the words of Psalm 22 beautifully fit the crucifixion of Jesus as recorded in the Gospels.

But as to King David being crucified - can you show me in Scripture where it says he was hung in response to his relation with Jonathan? David and Jonathan were not homosexual, nor did David dance naked in the streets.

1 Kings 15:5 "because David did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite."

And even though God frowned upon David and Bathsheba, still was King Solomon (the son of David and Bathsheba) chosen by God to rule a united kingdom and build his temple. He was blessed by God as his son. Solomon was the son of God.
 
 
I stand by whatever  I post , Your more then welcome to Challenge any of my post as long as you use Chapter and Verse , Meaning Scriptures . I'm not wasteing time playing word game with you. Psalms 22 Have nothing to do with the Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) according to the By-bill that is / scriptures . This is why I walk you through it Verse by Verse.
 
According to the Holy Qur'aan 17 ; 81 , Where It States , And I Quote ' And Say The Fact Beyond And Doubt Have Come And False Ways Were To Vanish ( In Time ) . ...


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One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .



Posted By: Lachi
Date Posted: 20 March 2014 at 6:20pm
Originally posted by Al Saadiqeen21 Al Saadiqeen21 wrote:


I stand by whatever� I post , Your more then welcome to Challenge any of my post as long as you use Chapter and Verse , Meaning Scriptures . I'm not wasteing time playing word game with you. Psalms 22 Have nothing to do with the Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) according to the By-bill that is / scriptures . This is why I walk�you through it Verse by Verse.


According to the Holy Qur'aan 17 ; 81 , Where It States , And I Quote ' And Say The Fact Beyond And Doubt Have Come And False Ways Were To Vanish ( In Time ) . ...


I have challenged your post and given you Scripture -
1 Kings 15:5 "because David did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite."
Scripture disproves your assertion that David was homosexual or danced naked in the streets (unless you think these things were 'right in the eyes of the Lord'?).

It is now your turn to do what I have done, and tell me from Scripture where it says that David was crucified because of his relationship with Jonathan.

If you can't meet your own standards, don't throw accusations at others.


Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 22 March 2014 at 6:36am
Originally posted by Lachi Lachi wrote:

Originally posted by Al Saadiqeen21 Al Saadiqeen21 wrote:


I stand by whatever  I post , Your more then welcome to Challenge any of my post as long as you use Chapter and Verse , Meaning Scriptures . I'm not wasteing time playing word game with you. Psalms 22 Have nothing to do with the Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) according to the By-bill that is / scriptures . This is why I walk you through it Verse by Verse.

 

According to the Holy Qur'aan 17 ; 81 , Where It States , And I Quote ' And Say The Fact Beyond And Doubt Have Come And False Ways Were To Vanish ( In Time ) . ...


I have challenged your post and given you Scripture -
1 Kings 15:5 "because David did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite."
Scripture disproves your assertion that David was homosexual or danced naked in the streets (unless you think these things were 'right in the eyes of the Lord'?).

It is now your turn to do what I have done, and tell me from Scripture where it says that David was crucified because of his relationship with Jonathan.

If you can't meet your own standards, don't throw accusations at others.
 
 
I have explain the whole chapter of Psalms 22 , You can take it or leave it , No do over .


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One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .



Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 22 March 2014 at 2:25pm
  http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Acts+1%3B8+%2C+2&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Acts 1;8 , 2 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=John+20+%3B+22+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: John 20 ; 22 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Luke+24+%3B+49&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Luke 24 ; 49 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=+Matthew+28+%3B+10+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Matthew 28 ; 10 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=+Luke+24%3B49+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Luke 24;49 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
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http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Luke+1+%3B+1-4+%2C+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Luke 1 ; 1-4 , :: Arabic/English Online Bible
Because the recorders of The Gospels wrote what They Heard as Opposed  to what they saw . None of the recorders of The Synoptic Gospel were present after they fled to The Garden . Yashu'a  called Twelve Men to Discipleship , Our of the Twelve Two of them  wrote their Version of the Crucifixion . John son of Zebedee's account is Fact , Where as the other , Gospel's accounts are Tales . The other Two Writers  of The Gospel , Luke , And Mark, weren't Disciples .  Why is it that Peter has no record of The Crucifixion , And he was there to see everything that happen . He never even recorded the fact that he denied Yashu'a Three Times . In Paul's Book , He mentions something about The Crucifixion , But he doesn't actually say that Yashu'a died on the cross .
 
The fact is , The Synoptic Gospels are writings of what these Men Were Told  by way of Mouth , None of the Disciples were present and Mark and Luke weren't Disciples at all . Mark was a Judahite  from Jerusalem ; And a property owner . His mother Mary was a supporter of The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a  teaching and thus open her home to The Disciples and their followers for it to serve as their gathering place .
 
John joined The Disciples Barnabas and Saul, Shaool , Paul The 13th Self -Appointed Apostle , On their first Missionary Journey , 47-48 A.D. , And travelled to The Greek Isle of Antioch to propagate the word of The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a  to The Lost Sheep Of The House of Israel . He served as Minister to Barnabas and Paul and was considered a Deacon or Servant . Who adided them . Mark also served as an Interpreter and attendant to  Saul, Shaool , Paul . He would Translate  Saul, Shaool , Paul's Sermons into Greek so that the Gentiles could understand .
 
Mark Eventually left the first missionary journey and returned to Jerusalem . The caused dissension between Barnabas and Paul . Paul resented Mark leaving him and would not allow him to go on the second Missionary journey . However Barnabas insisted that he come . Barnabas and Paul ended up going their separate ways .
 
Luke was a Greek Physician  who was a companion of Paul on his second journey to Teach The Gentiles. He also accompanied Paul on the third missionary journey whose destination was Rome . Luke was also a well -travelled man with knowldge of navigation and was a great writer . He was able to bridge the gap between The Jews ( Jebusites of Canaan ) and the Gentiles . He taught that The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a was a Universal Savior . The other Books of the New Testament aside from The Book of Revelation ; Acts of The Apostles and The Twenty -One Epistles were written by Luke and Paul . The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a did not inscribe any of these books nor were they Divinely Inspired . They , Like Synoptic Gospels
, ( Are Words Of Men ) And therefore should not be trusted .
 
Contradiction Of Luke .
 
( 1 ) . Holy Ghost bestowed the day of Pentecost ( Acts 1;8 , 2;4 ) ...... Holy Ghost bestowed before Pentecost ( John 20 ; 22 ) .
 
( 2 ) . Luke says the disciples were instructed to go to Jerusalem and stay there . ( Luke 24 ; 49 ) .......The disciple were commanded to go to Galilee immediated after the resurrection ( Matthew 28 ; 10 ) .
 
( 3 ) . Luke says the disciples were instructed to go to Jerusalem and stay there ( Luke 24;49 ..... Matthew says it was Galilee on a mountain . ( Matthew 28 ; 16 ) .
 
( 4 ) . Luke and his friend ( Paul ) said the promised land never belonged to anyone . ( Acts 7;5 / Hebrew 11 ; 9.13 ) ..... Abraham's seed dod receive the promised land ( Genesis 13;14 ./ Genesis 13;15 ,17 ; 17;8 )
 
( 5 ) . Christ's mission was one of peace , Only ( Luke 2 ; 13 , 14 ) . Not so says Matthew . ( Matthew 10;34 ) .
 
( 6 ) . A Good name is a Curse says Luke , ( Luke 6;26 ) .... A Good name is a Blessing , ( Ecclesiastes 7 ; 1  , Proverbs 22 ; 1 ) .
 
( 7 ) . Abraham bought land for Sepulchre . ( Acts 7 ; 16 ) ....... Jacob purchased it says Joshua ( Joshua 24 ; 32 ) .
 
( 8 ) . Importunity ( Persitence ) in prayer is commended ( Luke 18 ; 5 , 7; 11;8 ) ..... Repetitious prayers are condemned ( Matthew 6 ; 7-8 ) .
 
( 9 ) . Women are in subjection to their Husbans ( 1Peter 3 ; 1 ) ...... Women can Prophesy . ( Acts 2;18 , 21 ; 9 ) , Contradicts Paul ( 1Corinthians 14 ; 24 , ( 1Timothy 2;12 ) .
 
( 10 ) . If you break the Law or Disobey The holy sporit you are a sinner . ( Mark 3;29 ) ,..... All that Believe have Sins of the Laws of Moses taken away ( Acts 13 ; 39 ) .
 
( 11 ) . Luke says Satan entered into Judas before the supper . ( Luke 22;3,4,7 ) ....... Satan entered Judas during the last supper , ( John 13 ; 27 ) .
 
( 12 ) . Luke says Judas purchased the Potter's field . ( Acts 1;18 ) ..... Matthew says the chief priests purchased the potters ( Matthew 27 ; 6 , 7 ) .
 
(13 ) . More than three Women came to The Sepulchre , ( Luke 24 ; 10 ) , ...... Just three Women came to The Sepulchre says Mark ( Mark 16 ; 1 ) .
 
(14 ) . Two men stood by The Sepulchre says Luke . ( Luke 24 ; 4 ) , ...... Only one man sat beside The Sepulchre  says Matthew ( Matthew 28 ; 2-3 ) .
 
( 15 ) . Luke said that Salah was the son of Cainan ( Luke 3 ; 34,36 ) , ....... Salah was the son of Arphaxad , ( Genesis 11; 12 ) .
 
( 16 ) . The infant Christ  was not taken into Egypt , ( Luke 2;22,39 )  ......  The infant Christ  was taken into Egypt . ( Matthew 2 ; 14 , 15 , 19 , 21 , 23 ) .
 
( 17 ) . Christ's first Sermon was in the plain . ( Luke 6 ; 17 , 20 ) , ..... Christ preached his first Sermon on the mount , Matthew 5 ; 1,2 ) .
 
Luke contradicts himself ;
 
* Christ ascended from Mount Olive ( Acts 1 ; 9 -12 ) .
* He says , ''No , I mean from Bethany ( Luke 24 ; 50 - 51 ) .
* Sell you garments to buy A Sword ( Luke 22 ; 36 ) .
* The same man change his mind ( Luke 12 ; 4 ) .
* Luke tells of Paul's vision , He said; The men heard a voice and stood speechless ( Acts 9 ; 7 ) .
* The men saw a light , But heard no voice ( Acts 22;9 ) .
* No , They all heard a voice ( Acts 26 ; 14 ) .
 
What it all boils down to Luke wrote The Book of Acts to verify Saul, Shaool , Paul The 13th Self -Appointed Apostle , '' calling '' . He contradicts the events of the ''Calling '' Three times . Its in The Bible !!! Luke's words are not to be trusted !! He wrote his own Opinions ( Yes,Opinions! ) of what actually took place during Yashu'a Ministry . Dates confirm that The Books of Acts was Written 27 Years  After The Alleged Crucifixion . The Book of Luke was Written 25 Years after that .
 
Therefore , He was Never Present at any of The Events He Wrote About . Luke 's only Movtive was to Gain Fame and Recognition for himself . Luke's opportunity arrived when  Saul, Shaool , Paul The 13th Self -Appointed Apostle , ( His Friend ) , Claimed Aposteship and eventual inclusion of The Gentiles to the Covenant . Can't you see ? The foundation that the Churches are Built is like the House that was carelessly Built On Top Of Sand . ( Matthew 7 ; 26-27 )
 
Mark Proclaimed ( Disciple of The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a ..... Luke Proclaimed ( Disciple of The Prophet / Messiah Yashu'a .....
 
Luke Never got his calling from Yahuwa He did his Own Thing according to his Own Book !
 
The Gospel According to Luke 1 ; 1-4 , Where It States ; And I Quote ; Forasmuch as many have taken in hand ( To Set Forth In Order a declaration of those things Which Are Most Surely Believe among us . ( 2 ) .Even as they delivered then unto us . which from the beginning were eyewitnesses , and Minister of the Word . ( 3 ) . It seemed good to me also have had perfect understanding of all things From The Very First to write unto thee in order , most excellent Theophilus  ( 4 ) . That thou mightest know the certainty of those things , wherein thou hast been instructed . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek ) Keyword Study Bible >
 


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One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .



Posted By: Lachi
Date Posted: 23 March 2014 at 3:31pm
Originally posted by Al Saadiqeen21 Al Saadiqeen21 wrote:


I have explain the whole chapter of Psalms 22 , You can take it or leave it , No do over .


You have explained nothing.

David was not crucified for his relationship with Jonathan - that is just unfounded opinion based on the words of man. No Scripture supports it.

1 Kings 15:5 "because David did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite."

Where does it say David acted against God's Law and was crucified? If you cannot answer this, then your explanation of Psalm 22 is nothing but made up fantasy.


Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 24 March 2014 at 3:56am
Originally posted by Lachi Lachi wrote:

Originally posted by Al Saadiqeen21 Al Saadiqeen21 wrote:


I have explain the whole chapter of Psalms 22 , You can take it or leave it , No do over .


You have explained nothing.

David was not crucified for his relationship with Jonathan - that is just unfounded opinion based on the words of man. No Scripture supports it.

1 Kings 15:5 "because David did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite."

Where does it say David acted against God's Law and was crucified? If you cannot answer this, then your explanation of Psalm 22 is nothing but made up fantasy.
 
Owell according to you I have not , But you don't count anyway . LOL


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One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .



Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 24 March 2014 at 11:38am
The Pharisees , Al Farriysiyyin  , in Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) from the root word Farasa -arabic , means , '' To regard searchingly , eye , scrutinize '' , In Aramic ( Hebrew ) Fershim or Farush , meaning '' seprated , or separatist '' and in Greek , Pharisaios also meaning '' Separatist '' , The Pharisees were a distinct group that formed separately from the 70 Elders who waited at the bottom of Mt. Sinai ( Exodus 19 ; 7 ) for the Great Teacher Mosheh , Musa , Moses to return with thwe first commandments from one of the Elohyeem '' God , Judges , Angel '' one of whom is a Yahayyu Eloheem '' Lord of the Gods , Judges , Angels .
 
Exodus ~ Torah 2 , Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. 19 ; 7 , Where It States , And I Quote ; And Moses came and called for the Zawqane 'Elder ' of the nation of people , and put before their faces all these words which Yahuwa Tsawwaw 'Commanded ' him . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
The Pharisees supposedly received a more profound revelation which was not written down at the time . Thus , it became known as the Oral Law , and eventually took precedence over the Written Law , From this they compiled a set of Ahaadiyth -arabic , Tales which they referree to as Laws , calling it the Talmud , aramic , and Mishnah - aramic , A group of lay Priest or Scribes interpreted the law and became the greartest legal authorites .
 
For instance , if the Holy Torah said the Great Teacher Mosheh , Musa , Moses spoke to the burning bush , they added that the Elohyeem '' Gods , Judges , Angels '' were in the fire , so then the fire must be good therefore you can sacrifice by the consuming fire . Over the course of 430 years , 70 Israelites went into Egypt ( Genesis 46 ; 27 ) and 6,000 came out ,It stands to reason that over the years the 70 mixed in with the original inhabitants of that land who were Nubians , Blacks
, Negroids .
 
Genesis ~ Torah 1 Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. 46 ; 27 , Where It States , And I Quote ; And the Bane Sons of Yosafe , which were Yawlad Given In Birth for him in Mitsrayim were 2 Nehfesh 'Spirits , All the Nehfesh 'Spirits of the house of Jacobs , which came into Mitsrayim were 70 . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
As the saying goes '' One drop of black blood make you  Nubians , Blacks
, Negroids  ( said by Brigham Young who succeeded Joseph Smith the founder of the Mormon church ) so these 6,000 Israelites who came out of Egypt were  Nubians , Blacks , Negroids. Keeping that in mind , we know that the 70 Elders that waited at the bottom of Mt , Sinai were also  Nubians , Blacks
, Negroids . Meaning , the writes of the Talmud were were also  Nubians , Blacks
, Negroids .
 
However , Caucasoids try to cliam the Talmud as their own , just createing another avenue to give themselves a hostory . The Talmud is the Hebrew word for study , learn - in a general sense it means study of the law . The language of the Talmud was pure Hebrew very similar to Aramic ( Hebrew ) . Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' was constantly warning about the Sadducees ( Scribes ) and Pharisees ( Matthew 23 , Matthew 16 ; 1-11  , Matthew 15 ; 1-20 ) . http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Matthew+23&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Matthew 23 :: Arabic/English Online Bible  ,
http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Matthew+16+%3B+1-11+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Matthew 16 ; 1-11 :: Arabic/English Online Bible   http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Matthew+15+%3B+1-20+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Matthew 15 ; 1-20 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
 
The Pharisees claimed to Adhere   to the laws of Mosheh , Musa , Moses , yet they were doing everything just for show as  Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' said in ( Matthew 5 ; 20 ) .
 
The Gospel According to Matthew 5 ; 20 , Where It States , And I Quote ;  For I say unto you , that except your rightepusness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees , ye shall in no case enter into the Kingdom of Heaven . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
They were Professing  to be Men , But were Hypocites . The Pharisees , the Sadducees , and Chief Priests made up the Sanhedrin . which was formed in 902 B.C.E. , the Chief Judicial Council of the Supreme Courts of the Jebusites and the Jacobites ( the mixed seed of the Israelites Acts 5 ; 21 ) .
 
The Acts of the Apostles 5 ; 21 , Where It States , And I Quote ;  And when they heard that , they entered into the Temple early in the morning and Taught , But the High Priest came , and they that were with him , and Called  the Council To Gether and all the Senate of the Children of Israel . and sent the prison to have them brought . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
In The American Heritage Disctionary , by the Editors of the American Heritage Disctionary , Houghton Mifflin Publishers , the word Sanhedrin is defined as '' The highest judicial and ecclesiastical council of the ancient Jewish nation composed of from  70 to 72 members .
 
The Council of the Sanhedrin , because of its judicial authority , had a lot of influence over the people . They were given their authority by the Roman Empire as a means of keeping the Pure seed of the Judahite in control . They adjusted their Judaic laws in compliance to the laws of Rome , So all those who conformed to these ways became the ''Reformed Jews '' Who Mixed State With Religion . This is the same thing Religious Leaders Do Today . ; as Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' Stated in ( Mark 7 ; 8 ) ,
 
The Gospel According to Mark 7 ; 8 , Where It States , And I Quote ; For laying aside the Comandment  of ( Thehos , Elohyeem '' Gods , Judges , Angels ) God' ye hold the tradition of men . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
The Pharisees and the Sadducees loved the Wealth and Power that working with Rome brought them . They benefited from the ways of Caesar - the '' ways of the Gentiles '' ( Matthew 6 ; 32 ) , none of them had any concern for the things of the Elohyeem '' Gods , Judges , Angels ''
 
The Gospel According to Matthew 6 ; 32  , Where It States , And I Quote ; ( For after all these things do the Gentiles  seek ) for you Heavenly Father  knoweth that ye Have Need  of all these things < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
This is why Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' conwstantly spoke out against thye Council of the Sanhdrin aned all those associated wityh them ( Matthew 23 ; 5 ) All the False , Theologiansw , Scholars , Preachers , Teachers , Reverends , Ministers , Rabbis , Pastors . of today are like the Pharisees , and the Sadducees at the time of Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ ''
 
 The Gospel According to Matthew 23 ; 5   , Where It States , And I Quote ;  But all their works they do for to be seen of men ; they make broad their Phylacteres and enlarge the borders of their garments . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
In this day in times these principlites in high places are the Law-Makers and Lawbreakers . Today , there are Religious Public Figures Who Commit Abominations Like ( Revered Jimmy Swaggart and Revered Jim Bakker , that are against the beliefs of the entire Christians population. Yet , contributions come by the Millions to their orgaizations , Saul , Shaool , Paul and his father were of the Jebusites ( Euro-Jews ) and Jacobites ( mixed seed of Yaqov , Ya'aqub , Jacob's pure seed ; fake Jews ) .
 
They have been deceiving people since before Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' time . In 1John 2 ; 14 - 19 , http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=1John+2+%3B+14+-+19+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: 1John 2 ; 14 - 19 :: Arabic/English Online Bible we see them as the moneychangers in the Synagogue when Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' turned over tables . This type of disrespect is still demonstrated by the Euro-Jews you see today ,
 
those that have diluted the original laws and customs and continue to adhere to a Man-made doctrine . The only true Hebrews who still follow the old laws are the Falash-har , The Tribe of Yehudaw , Yahudah , Judah , The Nubians , Blacks
, Negroids Seed , the remnant of the original tribes , who reside in Ethiopia and moved up to Nubia .


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One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .



Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 26 March 2014 at 5:53am
The Council of the Sanhedrin . The High Priests of the Tribe of Levi ( the third son of Jacob and Leah were the only ones who were permitted in the Holy of Holies ( Leviticus 16 ; 2 ) . This is the tent or area that contained the Ark of the Tabernacle . They were considered the Chiefs of the Sanhedrin Council . They wore a Mitre ( headdress ) , ( Exodus 29 ; 6 ) on their heads and breastplate with 12 stones for each of the 12 tribes of Israel on their chests .
 
Leviticus -Torah 3 Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. 16 ; 3 ,Where It States , And I Quote ; With this will Aaron come into the Qodesh 'Holy place ; With a young bullock for a Khattawaw 'Gone Wrong-Offering , and a ram for an Ascending Olaw ' Burnt-Offering .  < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Exodus -Torah 2 Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E . 29 ; 6 , Where It States , And I Quote ;  And you will set the mitre upon his head , and put the Qodesh 'Holy 'Nehzer Crown upon the mitre .  < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
They wore Blue Robes ( Exodus 28 ; 31 ) , partly covered with an embroidered type shawl called an Ephod , ( Exodus 29 ; 5 ) when they had to enter the Holy of Holies they also wore a white lined robe . Before entering the tabernacle , the priests were also anointed with Holy Oil ( Exodus 30 ; 25 - 33 ) .
 
Exodus -Torah 2 Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E . 28 ; 31 , Where It States , And I Quote ; And you will make the Maheel 'Robe' of the Ayfode 'Ephod entirely of violet . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Exodus -Torah 2 Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E . 29 ; 35 , Where It States , And I Quote ; And thus will you do to Aaron , and to his sons , according to all that I have Tsawwaw 'Commanded 'you ; Seven days will you fill their hands .  < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Exodus 30 ; 25 - 33 , http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Exodus+30+%3B+25+-+33+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Exodus 30 ; 25 - 33 :: Arabic/English Online Bible   The Priest of the Tribe of Levi were the maintenance men of the Council . Their duties consisted of the upskeep of the Tabernacle . They looked after the furniture and the court of the Temple . They also watched the door and did other servant -like tasks ( Exodus 28 ; 40-43 ) . http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Exodus+28+%3B+40-43+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Exodus 28 ; 40-43 :: Arabic/English Online Bible  
 
When the Sanhedrin Council was first formed , the Levitical Priests help their office for like . However , later on , Herod , the Idumen ( Edomite , Mongoloid ) King of Judea sought to eliminate any possible threats to his power . Check out the story of the Wisemen , For this same reason , Herod sought to kill Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' as a child . Also during this time the Romans appointed and dismissed the priest as they wished ; which was another part of the Jewish Reformation .
 
The Sadducees or scribes were men who copied the Holy Torah , or Mosaic Law . They became learnt men who taught and interpreted the sciptures and kept charge of official documents , Ezrah , Uzair , Ezra was a scribe in the time of the Jacobites ( who mixed the seed of the Israelites all except the pure seed of the tribes of Yehudaw , Yahudah , Judah and Benjamin ) who returned from the Babylonian exile in 538 B.C.E. In the time of Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' the scribes were called doctors of the law . Some scribes held classes to trian Rabbis , Saul , Shaool , Paul's teacher Gamaliel was a scribe .
 
The Pharisees were the official heads or decision makers . Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ ''  called the Pharisees '' hypocrites ''  ( Matthew 23 ; 13 , 23-29 , Matthew 15 ; 7 ) . http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Matthew+23+%3B+13+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Matthew 23 ; 13 :: Arabic/English Online Bible   http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Matthew+15+%3B+7&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Matthew 15 ; 7 :: Arabic/English Online Bible   Mark 7;6 , Luke 11 ; 44  , 12 ; 1-2  , 12 ; 56 , http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Mark+7%3B6+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Mark 7;6 :: Arabic/English Online Bible   http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Luke+11+%3B+44++&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Luke 11 ; 44 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
 
Young members of the Pharisees such as Saul , Shaool , Paul served as apprentices to these elders . The oral laws were rules for daily living . In it they consider anyone who does not accept their version of religion is an animal or a heathen . After the Christian church was organized by Saul , Shaool , Paul the Pharisees withdrew more than ever from the world . They worked for years compiling the Talmud along with the Gemara , '' the second part of the talmud , consisting primarly of commentary on the mishnah .
 
The Talmud contains all the civil laws of the Jebusites ( the Euro-Jew , Revelation 3 ; 1-6 )  http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Revelation+3+%3B+1-6+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Revelation 3 ; 1-6 :: Arabic/English Online Bible that were developed over the years by the Mishnah ; the first section of the Talmud , being a collection of early oral interpretations of the scriptures as compiled about 200 A.D, As I mentioned before , this is the same Talmud , the collection of ancient Rabbinic writing consisting of the Mishnah and the Germara , constituting the basis of religious authority in Orthodox Judaism .
 
The Talmud , Mishnah and Gemara , make up the base of the religion the Euro-Jew ( Jebusites ) use today . All three of these books are made up of Man -Made Laws and Tradition ; they are '' the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews  , and are not , but are the synagogue of Satan . ( Revelation 2 ; 9 ) http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/index.php?r=Revelation+2+%3B+9+&version=SVD&btn=View&showVN=1 - Click here: Revelation 2 ; 9 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
 
This is against the law of the Yahayyu ''Living One , Existing One '' , Traditions of man are not a part of the Laws of Yahayyu ''Living One , Existing One '' . In the definition of the Talmud above , make note that it is the basis of the religious authority in Oxthodox Judaism . Now look at the meaning of Orthodox also from
 
The American Heritage Dictionary , By the Editors of the American Heritage Dictionary , Houghton Mifflin Publishers , '' Adhering to the accepted or traditional and established faith , especially in religion , Adhering to what is commonly accepted , customary , or traditional ; meaning traditions of man . The Euro-Jews are not the real Judahites , they are the followers of the Pharisees from the Second Testament and they are the ones who Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' speaks of in ...
 
The Gospel According to Mark 7 ; 8 , Where It States , And I Quote ; For laying aside the commandment of ( Thehos , Elohyeem '' Gods , Judges , Angels '' ) 'God , ye hold the tradition of men , as the washing of pots and cups ; and many other such like things ye do .  < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
The Epistle of Paul to the Colossians 2; 8 , Where It States , And I Quote ; '' Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit , after the tradtion of men , after the rudiments of the world , and not after Christ . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Man-made scriptures aren't something that only Euro-Jews adhere to Many so-called Religious Theologians , Scholars , Preachers , Teachers , Reverends , Rabbis , Ministers , Pastors , are also Guilty of Perpetuating man-made stories , books ; just like in the so-called books of Saul , Shaool , Paul which they preach from . Upon the destruction of the Temple of Solomon in 70 A.D. the Sadducees disappeared and Jewish life was totally regulated by the Pharisees , In Babylonia
, the Pharisees found it easy to make up and enforce their unethical and moral codes because the Babylonian society was already depraved , with its Idol Worship and sexual perversions among other iniquities .
 
One thousand new laaws were formulated which gave rise to The Babylonian Talmud in 550 A.D. The Holy Bible you read today is from the ancient Babylonian manuscript , which was undoubtedly misconstrued by the Pharisees , just liik at the so-called books of Saul , Shaool , Paul . The power of the Babylonian officials was threatened by the influence the Pharisees had on the people . The Pharisees were finally expelled from Babylon and forced to migrate to Western Europe . They had adopted many of the perverse ways of the Babylonians and justified their actionin the Talmud .
 
For example , the Jebusites ( cursed descendants of Canaan who now call themselves Jews ) participated in illicit child sex ( pedophilia ) . Thus in three of the major treaties of the Talmud the Pharisees give legal right to seduce and marry three -year- old baby girls . The Pharisees also condoned having sex with young boys and did not regard this as a sexual offense . They did not consider a Gentile ( anyone who was not a Jebusite ) a man , but a barbarian who would always be beneath the Jew ( Jebusite ) . However true , the real Gentiles are anyone who isn't of the Tribe of Yehudaw , Yahudah , Judah .
 
The Euro-Jew are the real Gentiles , which is goyeem in the Hebrew which means heathen , So they took the real Judahites and in 1945 A.D. began calling the pure seed ( Negroids ) ethnic , which is heathen in the Greek .
 
The Gospel According to Matthew 23; 15 , Where It States , And I Quote , Woe unto you scribes and Pharisees , hypocrites ! for ye compass Sea and land To Make one Proselyte and when he is made , ye make him twofold more the Child of Hell than yourselves .  < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
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One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .



Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 16 April 2014 at 7:29am
During the time of the Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' of 2,000 years ago the Pharisees conflicted over the issue of dietary observances and almsgiving . The Pharisees were the biggest imposters during the time of the  Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' of 2,000 years ago as stated in .
 
The Gospel According to Matthew 23; 28 , Where It States , And I Quote , Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men , but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
They were like the Euro -Arabs of today who call themselves Muslims and are not
. The Pharisees were the biggest hypocrites of their time . The Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' of 2,000 years ago knew that they were not of the pure seed of the Great Teacher Avram, Ibrahim , Abraham nor were they the original Israelites .
 
The Gospel According to John 8 ; 39-40   , Where It States , And I Quote ; They answered and said unto him , Abraham is our father , Isa said unto them , If ye were Abraham's children , ye would do the Works of Abraham . ( 40 ) . But now ye Seek To Kill Me , a man that hath told you The Truth , which I have heard of ( Thehos , Elohyeem ) . Gods ; this did not Abraham . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
It was the Pharisees who arranged the Plot To Kill The Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' of 2,000 years ago ( John 11 ; 47-48 )
 
The Gospel According to John  11 ; 47 - 48 , Where It States , And I Quote ;  Then gather the Chief Priests and the Pharisees a council and said , What do we ? for this man doeth many Miracles . ( 48 ) . If we let him thus alone , all men will believe on him ; and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and Nation . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' was to be crucified on the Passover ( John19 ; 14 ) so the Euro-Jews could not do it , the Roman soldiers are the ones who crucified him as stated in ( John 19; 23 ) . Notice how the Euro-Jew and the Romans worked together ;
 
The Gospel According to John  19 ;14 , Where It States , And I Quote ;  And it was the preparation of the Passover. and about the sixth hour ; and he said unto the Jews , Behold your King . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
The Gospel According to John  19 ;23 , Where It States , And I Quote ; Then the Soldiers , when they had Crucified Yashu'a , took his garments , and made four parts , to every soldier a part ; and also his coat ; now the coat was without seam , woven from the Top throughtout . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Since the time of Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' of 2,000 years ago , the Euro-Jews ( Jebusiter and Jacobites ) have strived to keep their position , trying to Control Every Aspect Of Society . Today's Pharisees are your elite Euro-Jews . You will find him as the leading politcian , wealthy entrepreneur , influential preacher , famous movie star , corrupt judge , etc . etc . Their aim is to control how you think , act , dress , and so forth , the same way their ancestors did during the time of the Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' of 2,000 years ago , warned his followers to beware of them ( Revelation 2;9 , 3;9 )
 
The Book of Revelation 2 ; 9 , Where It States , And I Quote ; Sure , I Know About Your Tribulation And Your Poverty ; Nevertheless You Are Rich And There Is Great Blasphemy Against You By Those Who Say ; Surely They Say They Are Of Yehuwdah And They Are Not Of Yehuwdah .  They Are The Comminity Of The Physical Ha Satan .  < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
The Book of Revelation 3 ; 9 , Where It States , And I Quote ; This Is It I , ( Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh ) , Will Give You The Community Of Ha Satan , Who Say That Surely They Are Of Yehuwsah And They Are Not Of Yehuwdah , ( But Are Liars ) This Is It . I Will Make Them Come And Worship At Your Feet So That They Will Know That Surely I Love You . < King Jame Version ( Aramic / Hebrew ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
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One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .



Posted By: Al Saadiqeen21
Date Posted: 28 April 2014 at 8:32pm

The purpose of this Post  is to show and prove that the statement made by The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ ( Pbuh ) son of Mary of 2,000 years ago , in ..

The Gospel According To John 16 ; 14 , Where It States , And I Quote , '' He Shall Glorify Me For He Shall Receive Of Mine And Shall Show It Unto You . < King James Version ( Arabic ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Who Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) was really talking about ?


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One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .




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