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I think the problem is people who keep grabbing to the bad things of the past as a ground for their anger and frustration. The world turns move on and try to better it.
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India was a global power, producing 72% of the global produce. High English? Really, such a limited language so high? Be blessed if you think so my friend.

And, middle east is a threat to its neighbours for nothing, I suppose?

God bless your confusion and Arab phobia.

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i thought you had a sense of humour anyway,(yeah yeah)

no not for nothing, one reason might be that they are letting themselves be inspired with neo nationalistic ideas partly nurtured by the old soviet union through leaders like Arafat as to create a platform from which the socialist movement can operate against "the west" and then the other side ofcourse tries to counter that....and there in between the two you have the crowd of "what is going on here i do not know so i get pissed off at" (whoever the propaganda is against).

The right way is not through adopting nationalism as a faith or some ideology, because whatever ideology they adopt it will be conflicting either with the east or the west....so submission for the sake of peace(islam).

 

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i would like to remind everyone about the word "enemy", in arabic it is 'aduwun', and the word for animosity(hostility) is 'adaawa' it has a connection to the 'aada" which means "return".

Returning to what happened in the past as a justification for anger and hate against human beings who are bound to make mistakes even in history ofcourse, is being enemous(hostile), And Allah does not love those who show animosity "inna Allaha laa yuhibbu al mu'tadeen" as Allah makes clear in the koran.

So hope for the mercy of Allah, move on with the goal of peace with Allah and with this, peace with many of His creation, except ofcourse those who keep on chosing to be an enemy. And Allah does not love those who are enemous(hostile). Comprehend the connection between the arabic word 'adaawa'"(enmity) and the word 'aada""(return") and that Allah does not love those who show enmity " 'adaawa".



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Does Allah Kareem also say something about Justice somewhere? Or, is it just that we must take what ever the enemy offers us?
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Originally posted by Community Community wrote:

They gave the indians a very good taste for tea with milk and high english....furthermore they helped them become a state that matters on the world stage as being democratic.


Now dont embrass yourself.............Tea indeed!Democracy!!
I would rather have the moghuls back.
At least we wont have to vote for power hungry politician?At least there will be no more 'seasonal' riots, which come exactly as the voting session apporoaches?At least Sujatha auntie would have been alive.......not murdered as she went to, like a obedient citizen, cast her vote??

And talking of tea; let me ask  you if you know what price they took for it?The very national tresure.What India was once called 'sone ki chidiya',(golden bird), now has turned into ash....and loads of rubbish.And those who resisted--Blood.Where once Hindu and Muslim stood hand in hand in the 1857 revolt, now look at each other with cold glances.

No thanks, take the tea for yourself, but give me my India original India back!

Originally posted by Sasha Sasha wrote:

So, hatred can't be perpetuated by the actions, policies and robbing greed of the empires? It can only be taught or rise from some "personal" experiences only? Never from any collective experience?

Well, at that time there was no scope for 'collective experience', you see I was 11 year old during the 1999 Kargil war(that makes me 17 now), and my impression was that Pakistan is a Muslim country, so whatever it will do will be right.So I started hating India.........

Happy Ramazan!
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PS>I hope that the newly established friendship between India and Pakistan never end....Insha'Allah.



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movement can operate against "the west"

Who would need any movement against your west, my friend, when poor west is bent upon killing itself with its very own daggar - as predicted by Iqbal circa 1920s. I must add (just because worldly glitter impresses you) I am talking about Sir Doctor Mohammad Iqbal (doctorate granted by a UK university!!)

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Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

Does Allah Kareem also say something about Justice somewhere?

Exactly, that's what it is about, Saddam's regime=injustice. Removal of Saddam and His regime and replacing it by a elected government=justice.

Taliban regime=injustice, removal of this regime and replacing it by a elected government=justice.

 

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