i saw a program on TV about a story i already heard about a lioness who did not eat it's pray but instead took it in and protected it....she did not kill it even after 13 days of hunger...

The oryx was still young and could not eat yet so it was starving because it needed mother milk, 

What kept me thinking is why this woman who was following them around and saying how amazing the relation between this lioness and this little oryx was never really made an attempt to save the little oryx from starvation in Africa...

After being urged by africans who saw this miracle to feed them she threw a chunk of meat at the lioness at one point but even though the lioness was hungry she did not touch the meat....what was this woman trying to do anyway? give the lioness a little appitizer so that it would get in the mood for more?

After about 2 weeks of wandering without food a lion came along and jumped on the little oryx and ripped it to pieces...nothing wrong with that, after all it is a lion and an oryx is on it's list of meals. The lioness then moved on after showing the signs of one that has lost it's cub, she was successful in her hunts after that but did take in other baby oryxes, one died of starvation and another was found by it's mother...she then disapeard never to be seen again.

I guess people like that woman hold to the prime directive of star trek or something "not to interfere in the affairs of nature", but the thing is mankind has the ability to interfere and already does, how is it possible for them not to interfere when they witness such a thing?

Anyway one thing...the lioness did not kill the little oryx but another lion did even though she was very hungry, and on the other side the witnessing of that woman and doing nothing to save the little oryx is also a cause it seems. Disturbing in my view.

hahahahah, very amusing!

By any chance did u expected the woman to save the little orynx or whatever?What if the lioness suddenly changed her mind and istead grab the woman only?

I didnt gt it; wht do u mean by 'a man frm India?'I was only suggesting that it would hv been really stupid, as u say, that the women should have saved the orynxes or whatever the heck.But, u seem to be full of wrong impression of india..........the way u make fun'well we all know the bravery of the men from india and how ready they are to prove it', i wont say u were complementing, or were u??

If u dont know that the country is not good or bad.........as I hv already argued on this for quite a no. of time under the topic starting with 'INDIA'...............anyway country is not good or bad, rather it is HUMAN LIVING THERE are good or bad.And every country has good and bad people.When I was 10 yr old, I was under the same impression.I hated US, UK, and India.Reason?None.Later I realised that it was but a impression which made me think like that.

I now judge a person by his/her religion.That too is a bad indiacaor.Anyway, most muslim call each other brother and sister, needless to say whether they belong to India or Africa, are poor or rich or r black or white.

thanx,

Dayem.

""I hated US, UK, and India.Reason?None.Later I realised that it was but a impression which made me think like that.""

Your parents raised you to hate the US, the UK and even India?

""I hated US, UK, and India.Reason?

Dayem, please, don't say that. Our friend here is a confirmed US boot licker. I don't mind bootlickers as long as they don't hide behind a page from the Qur'an, posing to Muslims.

And, asking Muslims to join the US army!!!

Ah he is at it again...trying to turn one against the other....you are truely in your element are'nt you, like a devil trying to create deeper enimosity out of some self interest based in the  ideology of communism in this case. You whisper are the first communist i met, but now i think of it i must have met alot more in my past but i only did not recognize them...they are the ones trying to make one rise up against the other and do everything they can to achieve this chaos while claiming to be your friend or ally...but they do not say why they wish this chaos, now i see why, it is because they think they can push their ideology upon others as a way out when people are desperate and hopeless enough. It will not work, you are a poser not me, you pose as being a good advisor with the goal of creating discord (you got alot of traits of being a shaitaan(devil).

"Your parents raised you to hate the US, the UK and even India?"

Plz dont speak of the thing u dont know; I can very easily reply to this post and may be offend u........But im trying to controll my temper this Ramadhan.so plz dont provoke me.Forgive and forget..............

Happy Fasting!

Dayem

Plz dont speak of the thing u dont know; I can very easily reply to this post and may be offend u........But im trying to controll my temper this Ramadhan.so plz dont provoke me.Forgive and forget.

Please Dayem iss becharay ko maaf kar do! His mind has been blocked as punishment for distorting ayaats to justify the Iraq war. You would understand.

Khuda Hafiz

Dayem wrote: "Your parents raised you to hate the US, the UK and even India?" Plz dont speak of the thing u dont know; I can very easily reply to this post and may be offend u........But im trying to controll my temper this Ramadhan.so plz dont provoke me.Forgive and forget.............. Happy Fasting! Dayem

Hey that was just an honest question into where that hatered came from...wish you the best man, and a happy fasting to you too.

ohk, thats better.

I myself dont remember where the hatered came from; but definately my parents were upset by my apporoach.(I remember I got a BIG lecture for it once).

Anyway I was ten, and I was only giving u an example of how childish a person could while dealing with country.

Listen I have changed my opinion, the women should have saved that whatever orynx or something from the jaws of that lioness.HAPPY?

Dayem.

(LOL)

So, hatred can't be perpetuated by the actions, policies and robbing greed of the empires? It can only be taught or rise from some "personal" experiences only? Never from any collective experience?

Why just ask Dayem? Why not go out in the streets in India and ask other men and women why they dislike (or, in some cases even hate) the Hang Low Sexnons?

Then you will find out that they have done enough to India and the Mid East to deserve what they get from people NOW.

They gave the indians a very good taste for tea with milk and high english....furthermore they helped them become a state that matters on the world stage as being democratic.

The middle east? well they just got that unique position of being "in the middle of it" and they do not really understand or know what to do with that position it seems, but one thing they should realize now rather then later, that being a threat towards their neighbours is not an option.

India was a global power, producing 72% of the global produce. High English? Really, such a limited language so high? Be blessed if you think so my friend.

And, middle east is a threat to its neighbours for nothing, I suppose?

God bless your confusion and Arab phobia.

i thought you had a sense of humour anyway,(yeah yeah)

no not for nothing, one reason might be that they are letting themselves be inspired with neo nationalistic ideas partly nurtured by the old soviet union through leaders like Arafat as to create a platform from which the socialist movement can operate against "the west" and then the other side ofcourse tries to counter that....and there in between the two you have the crowd of "what is going on here i do not know so i get pissed off at" (whoever the propaganda is against).

The right way is not through adopting nationalism as a faith or some ideology, because whatever ideology they adopt it will be conflicting either with the east or the west....so submission for the sake of peace(islam).

i would like to remind everyone about the word "enemy", in arabic it is 'aduwun', and the word for animosity(hostility) is 'adaawa' it has a connection to the 'aada" which means "return".

Returning to what happened in the past as a justification for anger and hate against human beings who are bound to make mistakes even in history ofcourse, is being enemous(hostile), And Allah does not love those who show animosity "inna Allaha laa yuhibbu al mu'tadeen" as Allah makes clear in the koran.

So hope for the mercy of Allah, move on with the goal of peace with Allah and with this, peace with many of His creation, except ofcourse those who keep on chosing to be an enemy. And Allah does not love those who are enemous(hostile). Comprehend the connection between the arabic word 'adaawa'"(enmity) and the word 'aada""(return") and that Allah does not love those who show enmity " 'adaawa".

Community wrote: They gave the indians a very good taste for tea with milk and high english....furthermore they helped them become a state that matters on the world stage as being democratic.

Now dont embrass yourself.............Tea indeed!Democracy!!
I would rather have the moghuls back.
At least we wont have to vote for power hungry politician?At least there will be no more 'seasonal' riots, which come exactly as the voting session apporoaches?At least Sujatha auntie would have been alive.......not murdered as she went to, like a obedient citizen, cast her vote??

And talking of tea; let me ask  you if you know what price they took for it?The very national tresure.What India was once called 'sone ki chidiya',(golden bird), now has turned into ash....and loads of rubbish.And those who resisted--Blood.Where once Hindu and Muslim stood hand in hand in the 1857 revolt, now look at each other with cold glances.

No thanks, take the tea for yourself, but give me my India original India back!

Sasha wrote: So, hatred can't be perpetuated by the actions, policies and robbing greed of the empires? It can only be taught or rise from some "personal" experiences only? Never from any collective experience?

Well, at that time there was no scope for 'collective experience', you see I was 11 year old during the 1999 Kargil war(that makes me 17 now), and my impression was that Pakistan is a Muslim country, so whatever it will do will be right.So I started hating India.........

Happy Ramazan!
Dayem.
PS>I hope that the newly established friendship between India and Pakistan never end....Insha'Allah.

movement can operate against "the west"

Who would need any movement against your west, my friend, when poor west is bent upon killing itself with its very own daggar - as predicted by Iqbal circa 1920s. I must add (just because worldly glitter impresses you) I am talking about Sir Doctor Mohammad Iqbal (doctorate granted by a UK university!!)

Whisper wrote: Does Allah Kareem also say something about Justice somewhere?

Exactly, that's what it is about, Saddam's regime=injustice. Removal of Saddam and His regime and replacing it by a elected government=justice.

Taliban regime=injustice, removal of this regime and replacing it by a elected government=justice.

Taliban regime=injustice

My ultra sad friend, who decides that? You or just the other sad chap who like you also claims to speak with gaad?

And, why does your great Gaadess of Macdemocracy and "elected governments" fail to bring any comfort to the people in Egypt, Pakistan and quite a few other places?

Do you really take us to be all Americans that we would fall for your equations created sitting in front of a computer screen - without any exposure of Afghans.

I am glad, at least, you have kept yourself from distorting an ayaat or two this once. 

if that was the best argument you can put forward while you used to be against the Taliban in other posts....ultra sad you say?

To be for or against my government is my local issue and I hold every right to solve it "my way". Show me three Talibaan injustices other than the typical US vilification pack of lies.

No Afghan ever asked GWB to come to our country other than his CIA puppets.

Can you give me at least one of your distorted ayaats that says we must not ever live the way Allah Kareem prescribes for us but ONLY by the format of your Washington masters?

Community wrote: Exactly, that's what it is about, Saddam's regime=injustice. Removal of Saddam and His regime and replacing it by a elected government=justice.

Shia, Sunni, Kurds fighting=justice.

Riots=Justice.

Descreation of Quran=Justice.

Prisoner abuse=Justice.

Turning of Palaces into millitery building=Justice.

Capturing of Oil wells by US=Justice.

And then, production of 'TERRORISTS'=In justice.'

Taliban regime=injustice, removal of this regime and replacing it by a elected government=justice.

Islamic Law=Injustice

Films/Clubs/Dance bar=Justice

Bomb dropping=Justice

What are you driving at, community?

What are you driving at, community?

Dayem, the poor chap is driving at nothing. He just developed a taste for US bootlicking. You are lucky, he is not copying some ayaats from some CD and distorting them here.