understanding Islam

Caringheart wrote: honeto wrote: Understanding Christians will be entirely impossible since there are so many denominations plus each Church I know has its own touch of teachings it follows. Then there are differences on geographic, language and racial lines and so on. On top of that people have their own understanding which they sometimes follow. Hasan Why is it that others are making the effort to understand Muslims?Hasan, You said that you had Christian 'friends'. If Islam were to come to your country, what would happen to these friends?

I think first Hasan would skin them alive and then stone them to death and then force them to accept Islam with a sword in his hand.

I think that is the view you have of Islam.Oh i forgot turn them into terrorist.yes yes.I can see Hasan licking his lips.

Edited by iec786 - 29 August 2012 at 12:10pm

honeto wrote: Caringheart, Islam is already here in this country where I live, the US. Islam is submission to the Will of God. It is good, and it benefits the person following it willingly. Hasan

Hasan,
If you live in the U.S. then you live in a secular country.
I am talking about, what if your country were to come under Islamic rule.
What would happen to your friends?
It is something everyone should be thinking about.
Would you turn on your friends, who you know to be good people, because your religion said so?  Would you subject yourself to possible death, because in your unwillingness to turn on your friends, you could be killed since you can not renounce your faith in Islam?
It is something everyone should be thinking about.
It is the type of thing people were faced with in Germany under Hitler's rule.  People who had long been friends had to make the choice to either help those friends or to turn a blind eye to their fate.
It is something everyone should be thinking about.
Caringheart

Caringheart wrote: Ismail,I'm surprised and disappointed by your response.� Are you still going on pilgrimage next month?� Or has that been cancelled?Caringheart

Hi Caringheart,

You see the line of questioning was what would you do if Christians were to come to your country.I would like to pose the same type of question to you.What do you expect to happen?The Muslims are not the people you per sieve us to be.The st**id oil rags with swords in our hands no that is not who we are.I live in a Christian country and in my business i meet 90% Christian clients.Not a day did we have an argument or i have not had a customer walk out of my business angry.I make sure when they walk out they are smiling.So the line of questioning was sarcastic and i gave an answer.

Now ,Oh yes i am going Mecca to pray and i am leaving South Africa on the 19 of September and i will return on the 03 November inshallah.

And don't be disappointed by my response.Take it in the spirit of dialog.

iec786 wrote: Hi Caringheart, You see the line of questioning was what would you do if Christians were to come to your country.I would like to pose the same type of question to you.What do you expect to happen?The Muslims are not the people you per sieve us to be.The st**id oil rags with swords in our hands no that is not who we are.I live in a Christian country and in my business i meet 90% Christian clients.Not a day did we have an argument or i have not had a customer walk out of my business angry.I make sure when they walk out they are smiling.So the line of questioning was sarcastic and i gave an answer. Now ,Oh yes i am going Mecca to pray and i am leaving South Africa on the 19 of September and i will return on the 03 November inshallah. And don't be disappointed by my response.Take it in the spirit of dialog.

Greetings Ismail,
I was surprised and disappointed to think that, after all of our dialogue, you would think that I have this view of Muslims.

Yes, you live in a Christian country.  Do you enjoy freedom and equal treatment?
Could a Christian expect the same if the country were to come under Islamic rule?
What would you do if your country came under Islamic rule?  Would you treat these Christian people the same way that you do now?  That is the question.

The line of questioning was not sarcastic, but quite serious.

Salaam,
Caringheart