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Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

As the ground realities showing the former leadership of both invaded countries Afghanistan & as well as Iraq were hundred times better than the currently imported leadership.

Brother Mohammad, alhamd o liLah, I admire your flow and the wisdom to state the truth as it stands on the ground in both places.



How can you possibly say that in good conscience?
http://www.massgraves.info/
http://iraqiholocaust.blogspot.com/2004/07/iraqs-tortured-ch ildren-bbc-2002.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3738368.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1410061.stm
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He means for his interests B95000.
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He thought that if Afghanistan and Iraq became even worse then they were before the invasion, the socialists would be able to recruit dis- satisfied people for their socialist revolution, but that did not go through obviously...he is frustrated i think...
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He thought that if Afghanistan and Iraq became even worse then they were before the invasion, the socialists would be able to recruit dis- satisfied people for their socialist revolution, but that did not go through obviously...he is frustrated i think...

Dear Community, I normally don't respond to trash. That's why I have started to ignore your sidekick's posts. But I do have a soft corner for your condition and a lot of pity for the taste you have developed for licking American boots.

You seem to ignore facts as always and cover up by misinterpretting ayaats. If you don't know what this war and occupation is about, I genuinely pity you ever more for condoning murder from 52,000 feet.

Today, even the US president is trying day and night to find a way of getting out of these places and you are pasting your psychological fantasies on us? Go and ask the Iraqis and the Afghans what they think about your ilk.

Socialist revolutions never need dissatisfied people. They require awakened honest sociallly aware minds. You quote Qur'an everywhere on this board, now are you telling us that Islam promotes usury? Greed? And, dollar as some gaad?

The more I know you, my friend, the more I pity you and your side-kick.



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Pity -

  1. Sympathy and sorrow aroused by the misfortune or suffering of another.

Misfortune and suffering...whatever you think my misfortune or suffering is or maybe will be, i do not think your sympathy is very appropriate when you perceive me as being "on the wrong side", if you have faith you would realize that The Almighty has ways to either guide people or destroy them....we all have to strive for Him being pleased. There are always opposers, in this case those who wish to keep the injustice in place or see injustice as a feeding ground for their ideology, nowadays since injustice is decreasing this group makes elephants out of mosquitos and gladly takes in dishonest views and opinions as theirs just for the sake of creating opposition against that which threatens their feeding ground (dictators and their esteblishments).

"Socialist revolutions never need dissatisfied people. They require awakened honest sociallly aware minds. You quote Qur'an everywhere on this board, now are you telling us that Islam promotes usury? Greed? And, dollar as some gaad?"

socially aware minds....i believe the structure of western society and in particular the US gives chances to those who are socially aware to make a difference in their societies and possibilities for people to better theirselves and their lives, we do not need any "isms" for this but freedom to do so. See you might believe that injustice may take it's course untill people be so fed up that they gladly reach out to your socialist hand, but for me and alot of people injustice need to be dealt with when possible otherwise we will pay for it too because we did nothing to change it.

 

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If you wish a balance Sasha you need to be in the middle and not on one of the extreem sides of the spectrum. Islam is not the community of socialism or capitalism but it is the community of the middle.
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2:143 Thus, have We made of you a community in the middle (justly balancing), that ye might be witnesses over the nations, and the Messenger a witness over yourselves; and We appointed the Qibla to which thou wast used, only to test those who followed the Messenger from those who would turn on their heels (From the Faith). Indeed it was (A change) momentous, except to those guided by Allah. And never would Allah Make your faith of no effect. For Allah is to all people Most surely full of kindness, Most Merciful.

2:238 Guard strictly your (habit of) prayers, especially the middle Prayer; and stand before Allah in a devout (frame of mind).

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Hey B95000 (side kick lol), i just watched the discovery channel and the program was about Jerusalem...why is it that the information given about islam is always inconclusive and not touching on the issues that can be a basis of greater understanding but rather focusing on issues that devide by explaining them according to certain interpretations? the program also depicts christian pilgrims as lunatics in need of psychiatric help(there was actually an israeli psychiatrist who helped people who where suffering from "the jerusalem syndrome" and he was kind of jokingly about it), then again, now i am starting to think that the program was more about the jews in Jerusalem because most of the program was spent on jewish people and customes...although the program fronted itself as a look into all three groups of faithful. There was a program after it called "secrets of the holy land" i did not watch that because i had enough after the first program.
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