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    Posted: 04 October 2005 at 5:42pm
Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

What's the difference then between your Extra Additional Deputy Gaad, the US, and OBL?


What's the difference between Sasha's communists and any of those he attempts to disparage?  The communist are magnitudes worse...and so from what authority does he proceed?  None...will you renounce the communist atrocities Sasha, or just shut your eyes and demand that we shut ours..?

The US has many blemishes and blood on its record (amidst many, many accomplishments) - but not nearly the blood that is on your hands and those you promote.  And what are the communists achievements?  Shall we list them here?

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What do you say, what can you say?  Nothing..as we expect..


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i do not think your sympathy is very appropriate when you perceive me as being "on the wrong side",

Sorry, wrong number. I pity you for misinterpretting the ayaats and trying to tell us that the Qur'an allows bombing people for "changing" them!!

What's the difference then between your Extra Additional Deputy Gaad, the US, and OBL?

You are flattering yourself by thinking as if it matters to me what side you are on. I hold no desire to collect a grabage can full of warmongering Neo Con idiots. 

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Originally posted by community community wrote:

"There was a program after it called "secrets of the holy land" i did not watch that because i had enough after the first program."


lol - oft times, TV is such a wasteland!
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Originally posted by Community Community wrote:

If you wish a balance Sasha you need to be in the middle and not on one of the extreem sides of the spectrum. Islam is not the community of socialism or capitalism but it is the community of the middle.


This is a wonderful thought really - a bridge between two worlds - there to promote unity.  Christianity is the same - as you see the concern rife throughout the Christian Scripture upholding the poor, the widow and the orphan and enjoining the faithful to be involved - as this is direct devotion and love for God..and capitalism, for all its flaws has brought about free societies and the freedom to advance and freedoms of speech and thought and worship...it has also brought about amazing innovations in technology that have lengthened the average life span of human beings in the world...

I really like your description of what the communities of faith are and can be...

And, to the faithful, our faith in God and His calling, encompasses everything...to the socialist and capitalist - their faith in human means encompasses everything...but the Bible tells us, 'the fool hath siad in his heart, there is no God.'
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Hey B95000 (side kick lol), i just watched the discovery channel and the program was about Jerusalem...why is it that the information given about islam is always inconclusive and not touching on the issues that can be a basis of greater understanding but rather focusing on issues that devide by explaining them according to certain interpretations? the program also depicts christian pilgrims as lunatics in need of psychiatric help(there was actually an israeli psychiatrist who helped people who where suffering from "the jerusalem syndrome" and he was kind of jokingly about it), then again, now i am starting to think that the program was more about the jews in Jerusalem because most of the program was spent on jewish people and customes...although the program fronted itself as a look into all three groups of faithful. There was a program after it called "secrets of the holy land" i did not watch that because i had enough after the first program.
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2:143 Thus, have We made of you a community in the middle (justly balancing), that ye might be witnesses over the nations, and the Messenger a witness over yourselves; and We appointed the Qibla to which thou wast used, only to test those who followed the Messenger from those who would turn on their heels (From the Faith). Indeed it was (A change) momentous, except to those guided by Allah. And never would Allah Make your faith of no effect. For Allah is to all people Most surely full of kindness, Most Merciful.

2:238 Guard strictly your (habit of) prayers, especially the middle Prayer; and stand before Allah in a devout (frame of mind).

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If you wish a balance Sasha you need to be in the middle and not on one of the extreem sides of the spectrum. Islam is not the community of socialism or capitalism but it is the community of the middle.
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Pity -

  1. Sympathy and sorrow aroused by the misfortune or suffering of another.

Misfortune and suffering...whatever you think my misfortune or suffering is or maybe will be, i do not think your sympathy is very appropriate when you perceive me as being "on the wrong side", if you have faith you would realize that The Almighty has ways to either guide people or destroy them....we all have to strive for Him being pleased. There are always opposers, in this case those who wish to keep the injustice in place or see injustice as a feeding ground for their ideology, nowadays since injustice is decreasing this group makes elephants out of mosquitos and gladly takes in dishonest views and opinions as theirs just for the sake of creating opposition against that which threatens their feeding ground (dictators and their esteblishments).

"Socialist revolutions never need dissatisfied people. They require awakened honest sociallly aware minds. You quote Qur'an everywhere on this board, now are you telling us that Islam promotes usury? Greed? And, dollar as some gaad?"

socially aware minds....i believe the structure of western society and in particular the US gives chances to those who are socially aware to make a difference in their societies and possibilities for people to better theirselves and their lives, we do not need any "isms" for this but freedom to do so. See you might believe that injustice may take it's course untill people be so fed up that they gladly reach out to your socialist hand, but for me and alot of people injustice need to be dealt with when possible otherwise we will pay for it too because we did nothing to change it.

 

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