Fate of non-believers

�And whoever seeks a religion other than Islaam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.� (Aal Imraan 3:85)

Listen this mixing of language needs to stop, we have the english language and we have the arab language, so if you translate this verse from Arabic into English do not just suddenly use an arabic word in it,

�And whoever seeks another way of life(deen) other than engaging the peace (or submission for the sake of peace), it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.� (Aal Imraan 3:85)

The peace with who? Allah above everyone else.

How? have faith in Allaha and then doing a mending work('amalan saalihan)

Whoever has faith in Allaha and does good because he knows there is a hereafter. This one is of the faithful. One who does mending good deeds for the sake of peace with Allah and to avoid His anger is a faithful.

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Bismillah

Community, the only purest reference you can find when it comes to reading and studying the Qur'an is in Arabic language. Islam is Islam whether one translates it as "submission", or one relates it to its common root with "salam" or peace. It is not unification of religions... it is return to the original monotheistic faith which is to be observed in a manner instructed by Allah through His Last Prophet - Muhammad (peace be upon him).

If one refuses however to acknowledge Muhammad (peace be upon him) as the final Messenger of Allah his declaration of faith is incomplete... for the Messenger calls to none other but Allah and not to himself.

For brother Israfil, I would recommend continue reading the story of Jewish tribes in Yathrib and share with us the development of events. The migration of the early Companions to Abyssiniya would have been a better example... but that would start up a different discussion.

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Abuayshia you said:

>>>A person says, �I believe that there is One God, who created the universe, but I am going to stop there�<<<<

Again you are not considering the other monotheistic faiths who have practiced the worship of the One God long before Islam came to Arabia. I am not saying that as of now all other monotheistic traditions within the sphere of the Abrahamic culture are  right in their modern context. What I am saying is that with our interpretation we make it really difficult and more so complex when we add: "Well you're right to believe in God but in the wrong religion" Allah says in the Qur'an that there is no compulsion in religion. Therefore for us to say this group is wrong because they stop short of being Muslim is a judgement left for God.

Yes it does say the religion of Allah is Al-Islam, but Islam is a wide spectrum and I believe even the most simplistic tenents of other monotheistic traditions can fit within this spectrum. I'm not at liberty to say whether they are right or wrong because that is a judgement left for God. What I am at liberty to say is that Allah is our goal and final destination. I hold Islam to be a bit more pluralistic than how modern scholars interpret it. I believe that the message of Islam is that mankind must be cognizant of him and him only.

The Pagan Arabs lost that when they worshipped Al-Illah along with Uzzah and Manat. I believe that for those of other monotheistic traditions they too fall under the simple tenents of Islam. For those who have not heard the message of Islam I don't think they have the "burden" as the one who hears the message. I believe that if that person is good and lives right then there is no worry in that person. I'm very limited in what I say in regards to Islamic pluralism so I'll leave it there.

MOCKBA perhaps you can be kind enough to correct me where I was wrong

 

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Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

assalamu alaikum

Any person who does not believe in Allah and his messenger, is held accountable and punished for not believing in Islam and there place is Hell. This is the black and white simple truth, but as i have stated in other threads according to "some" scholars those who said la illaha illah llah will be taken out of hell after how ever long Allah decrees for them to be in there.

There is no other destination for those who are have not believed in Allah's religion, whether for some of them this is eternal that is another question.

Regarding those who have not had a proper chance to learn about Islam Sister nausheen posted this in another thread.

The Fate of Non-Muslims in the Afterlife 

The reason that contemporary writers affected by the writings of Gunon and Schuon, such as Chittick and Gai Eaton (or such as Martin Lings, Titus Burckhardt etc.), seem to want the universal validity of all religions at any price, even to the extent of attributing it to masters like Muhyiddin ibn al-`Arabi ("in principle") or Emir `Abd al-Qadir ("he protected the Christians against massacre by taking them into his own home because he understood" [as if other scholars considered massacring them halal]) would seem to be the emotive impalatability of followers of other religions going to hell. Where is the mercy? Would Allah put someone in the hellfire merely for worshipping in another religion besides Islam? This question is answered by traditional Islam according to two possibilities:  

(1) There are some peoples who have not been reached by the message of the Prophet of Islam (Allah bless him and give him peace) that we must worship the One God alone, associating nothing else with Him. Such people are innocent, and will not be punished no matter what they do. Allah says in surat al-Isra',  

"We do not punish until We send a Messenger" (Qur'an 17:15). 

These include, for example, Christians and others who lived in the period after the spread of the myth of Jesus godhood, until the time of the prophet Muhammad (Allah bless him and give him peace), who renewed the call to pure monotheism.  

The great Muslim scholar, Imam Ghazali, includes in this category those who have only been reached with a distorted picture of the Messenger of Islam (Allah bless him and give him peace), presumably including many people in the West today who know nothing about Allah's religion but newspaper stories about Ayatollahs and mad Muslim bombers. Is it within such people's capacity to believe? In Ghazali's view, such people are excused until after they have had an opportunity to learn the undistorted truth about Islam (Ghazali: "Faysal al-tafriqa," Majmu'a rasa'il al-Imam al-Ghazali, 3.96). This of course does not alter our own obligation as Muslims to reach them with the da'wa.  

(2) A second group of people consists of those who turn away from God's divine message of Islam, rejecting the command to make their worship God's alone; whether because of blindly imitating the religion of their ancestors, or for some other reason. These are people to whom God has sent a prophetic messenger and reached with His message, and to whom He has given hearing and an intellect with which to grasp it but after all this, persist in associating others with Allah, either by actually worshipping another, or by rejecting the laws brought by His messenger (Allah bless him and give him peace), which associates their own customs with His prerogative to be worshipped as He directs. Such people have violated God's rights, and have accepted to go to hell, which is precisely what His messengers have warned them of, so they have no excuse:  

"Truly, Allah does not forgive that any be associated with Him; but He forgives what is less than that to whomever He wills" (Qur'an 4:48). 

In either case, Allah's mercy exists, though for non-Muslims unreached by the message, it is a question of divine amnesty for their ignorance, not a confirmation of their religions validity. It is worth knowing the difference between these two things, for one's eternal fate depends on it.