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    Posted: 01 May 2009 at 6:08am
candid new - that is why I put the "caste system"  in " "  I should have added a type of .  I mean there is separate treatment if you are Christian, Jewish or anything other then being Muslims. 
 
The only people that are innocent are Muslims. 
 
What is the source of your information- there are too many articles to list all of them
 
 
Also check out Iran
 
"According to Mrs Kar, the Iranian jurist, a Muslim is never condemned to death if he kills a non-Muslim. If a male Muslim kills a female Muslim, he is not sentenced to death."
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"Mrs Kar also cites the example of the Bahai, whose blood has no value, at least not in the Islamic �Republic� of Iran. Kar writes that, in her entire 22 years as a lawyer in the Islamic �Republic�, she has no recollection of anyone ever being executed for killing a Bahai. Nor does she recall the murderer of a Christian or Jew ever receiving the death penalty. Indeed, Iranian justice constantly stresses that if the murderer of a member of a recognised religious minority such as a Christian or Jew is killed by a non-Muslim, this non-Muslim deserves the death penalty, but a Muslim killer need not fear as much. Articles 226 and 295, which give Muslim judges leeway, provide protection for Muslim killers of non-Muslims. Under article 222, even a mentally ill person can be killed by a healthy Muslim."
 
I have heard both  that Islam is and  is not compatible with democracy what are your thoughts?
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candid - Islam does have a "caste system"- different treatment for different groups of people, Muslim, Christian, Jew, pagan, atheist, etc.
That's still not "caste-system". Jews and Christians who convert to Islam get same status and rights as other Muslims after they convert. So, the discrimination is, at least, not hereditary or racial.

No death penalty for killing a non-Muslim is not equal treatment.
What is the source of your information?

With the taliban there are 2 classes- men and women
No school for women and complete covering. Is there complete covering for men? No school for men?


I didn't say Taliban was/are perfect. Women are suffering a lot more because of poverty, feudalism, wars etc. in Afghanistan and Pakistan than because of gender discrimination. For most women in those regions gender equality is a luxury, it's not their first priority. Sort of, it's pointless to buy a parachute when you don't have plane.
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I agree completely with "Ends do not justify the means".  I am so glad Obama condemned the torture of prisoners.
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Signreader- Obama was all about change but if the violence in Iraq doesn't stop, will he continue the pullout of troups?

candid - Islam does have a "caste system"- different treatment for different groups of people, Muslim, Christian, Jew, pagan, atheist, etc.
 
No death penalty for killing a non-Muslim is not equal treatment.
 
With the taliban there are 2 classes- men and women
No school for women and complete covering.  Is there complete covering for men? No school for men? 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by aka2x2 aka2x2 wrote:

Taliban and any groups that resemble them are a black stain on all Muslims.

What would say about the adversaries?

And where were the Muslims when their homeland got bombed and countless got killed by Bush under what rules? And Now BHO is no different....A related article below!

The Bolter: Specter Spectacle Hides Deadly New Folly in Terror War

Ends do not justify the means.

Will you justify means like drone attacks and carpet bombing by the combined forces of the western world? IT has been seven years a longest America war and there is no end in sight.....We will see when the end comes LOL

Islam does not mean cruel, backwards or murderous.

This is a meaningless statement ...The universal rules... once war is imposed on ... have all options under the circumstances to survive and fight back...

Might does not make right.

Who has the might here? Need elaboration!




Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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The insurgents are selfless, honorable and gallant defenders of Islam.
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Taliban and any groups that resemble them are a black stain on all Muslims.

Ends do not justify the means.

Islam does not mean cruel, backwards or murderous.

Might does not make right.

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But the class divide in Pakistan is akin to caste system practiced in India.
Fyi...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bondage_in_Pakistan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism_in_Pakistan


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