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Originally posted by herjihad herjihad wrote:

How does dropping bombs on innocent villages help anybody?


Which innocent village was bombed intentionally?  Again, I would never claim perfection from the MN forces arrayed currently in the War against Terror/War for Freedom.  However, since when does harboring the heinous mass murderer Osama Bin Laden, mass killer of 3,000 in one hour, become something that can be helped with food stamps?  Uh, sorry, that's not going to make him capitulate Herjihad.  But, if you will, be specific on which innocent villages are being bombed..
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Please Herjihad we must not mock anyone�s faith.

It�s an article of his faith that God can design something wrong, but never never the US go wrong.

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Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

Please Herjihad we must not mock anyone�s faith.

It�s an article of his faith that God can design something wrong, but never never the US go wrong.

 

Well, isn't that a double edged sword? That can go for any country in the world. Or person......
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Originally posted by Lameese Lameese wrote:

Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

Please Herjihad we must not mock anyone�s faith.

It�s an article of his faith that God can design something wrong, but never never the US go wrong.

 

Well, isn't that a double edged sword? That can go for any country in the world. Or person......



Including Sasha's opinion of himself!
I on the other hand have never subscribed to this idea that Sasha (Whisper) imparts to me (as if from on high ) that somehow the US can do no wrong.  Not at all...the US had done many wrongs, as has every country and people that has ever been...but hey, why deal with reality and facts, right Sasha, when beating up on people with hyperbole is sooo much fun for you..


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Bismillah,

Would someone like to post one of the hundreds of innocent villages that the U.S. has bombed?  (Can't you think of one, B?)

Osama Bin Laden???  He got his start from the U.S. funding him a million dollars in Afganistan.  That is accepted even by the Bush admin.

A sister pointed out that the U.S.'s funding of the Iraq was has caused proportional decreases in public health and welfare programs in the U.S.  Medicaid dollars were directly used to bomb towns in Iraq! 

 How many disenfranchised kids are going to turn their poverty and anger into hatred for the powers that be?  This is the most important question:  What future unibombers and Oklahoma City bombers are we breeding right here at home through poverty and neglect?  We don't know their names yet, but unfortunately, we will soon.  Unless of course we change things now by caring for our people and our neighbors as best we can through preventative measures such as health care and housing and food and work.
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Originally posted by herjihad herjihad wrote:

Would someone like to post one of the hundreds of innocent villages that the U.S. has bombed?  (Can't you think of one, B?)

B: Uh, that would be your duty, since you've made the accusation...it should be easy for you, if, as you claim, there are hundreds...so?

Osama Bin Laden???  He got his start from the U.S. funding him a million dollars in Afganistan.  That is accepted even by the Bush admin.

B: OK, now, you're talking about the Cold War...uh, huh..

A sister pointed out that the U.S.'s funding of the Iraq war has caused proportional decreases in public health and welfare programs in the U.S.  Medicaid dollars were directly used to bomb towns in Iraq!

How many disenfranchised kids are going to turn their poverty and anger into hatred for the powers that be?  This is the most important question:  What future unibombers and Oklahoma City bombers are we breeding right here at home through poverty and neglect?  We don't know their names yet, but unfortunately, we will soon.  Unless of course we change things now by caring for our people and our neighbors as best we can through preventative measures such as health care and housing and food and work.

B: You make this sound like a zero sum game - a one pie for the world situation...it's not.  Freedom and prosperity have their own exponential power...I don't buy this one for one business...furthermore, the Medicaid recipients won't be able to enjoy any benefits once dead in a terrorist mass attack. Herjihad, you don't, for some reason mention that, at all.  Why not?  Is that not part of the reality?

I will totally agree with you that we need to take care of the poor.  Absolutely.  I just disagree with your cause and effect alarmism, especially as it disregards some basic elements of reality - like the Islamic motivated deat cultists.
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Osama is a billionaire

He got weapons and had his people trained by the U.S. is what happened
and still going on.

The fact that death Cult is what Bush and Blair proposed before they
started this war makes it equal for others to take there lives for it if they
are simply the enemies because they are not white or un desirable
citizens in helping the new gapps between the RIch and Poor.

Christianity since the crusades have been nothing but a death CULT, take
Christ-Mass for one fact, why a mass, why inventions of a bloody crucifix
and blood rituals , its idolatry all the way to the bank and hypocrisy., even
Jesus spoke against these types of acts wit the pagans in egypt (PBUH).,
and what God dies?

If you agree with loosing lives to carry out a New World Order then don't
cry if others do it by there own choice,
Down in History, Hitler, Bush and Blair are the only people who ever
stated that they will go into a war that will cost there own peoples lives,
and you voted for them.

I rather no violence took place, but i can not stop aggressive self
interested nations from murdering other human beings can i, either can
you.
So why not stop the hypocracy and double standards here..

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Herjihad, I won't address you as sister, I prefer dukhtar (daughter in Farsi).

Not just villages, but innumerable wedding parties, delegations and anything and everything. I have phoned my man in Peshawar, we shall have a whole list by the end of this week. Why else would the Afghan public begin to turn against someone who actually liberated them from the Talibaan? It's just random killings and outright vulgar behaviour of the US troops. They are utterly devoid of any cultural or even human sensitivity.

Though, I suggest not to pay much attention to this poster. Just watch his posts, he is bent on provoking one thing or the other, all hours. He doesn't hold even a single point that can be backed by anything other than his own words. Let's be a bit light and laugh at such a state. 

My son is psychiatrist. He did say something about such behaviour, but I won't like to mention it here on the site or hurt this young man's feelings. Let him enjoy his fantasies. He hasn't started to kill people for assering his points. At least not as yet.
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