Israeli Jets bomb Gaza: 1,300 Dead

Originally posted by Ron Webb "What purpose is served by deliberately killing Israeli civilians, other than to give the Israeli government yet another excuse to kill yet more Palestinians?"

To balance the murders of their own innocents, to retaliate for their stolen land, to make them aware of their pain, to show them that while they know they are weaker militarily they don't fear death and will never give in, though even a rock throw invites a massacre of their own mostly unarmed ghetto inhabitants, the majority of which are children.

And that same massacre (in response to the civilian deaths caused by Hamas/IslamicJihad/etc) then causes the entire world to look, to question, to seek out answers as to the genesis, to demand justice as we are seeing from this event; to put political pressure on the parties to finally resolve the issue.

Any killing, civilian or otherwise, is part of a defensive war that Hamas is waging on the Palestinian's behalf against the occupiers - they accept and possibly welcome that the Israeli response is going to be over-the-top and bring their plight to an even wider audience, increasing the chances of changing their national fortunes.

Another result of drawing out their opponent has been to show the extremely high level of patronage that client states such as Saudi, Egypt, etc have from the West.   Muslim countries have finally been forced to take a definite stand; e.g, Qatar cutting off ties with Israel... This revelation of patronage has also increased calls for Hamas to be included in any honest representation of the Palestinians, now that the shell game of Abbas, Mubarak, etc. has been made so much clearer.

Hamas is being addressed now, Israel lambasted by mainstream press, apologized for by Carter, etc.

As miserable as this situation is, the result of any killings any Palestinians have committed has brought war - and then the media - and then the reality of their plight to the world... in a way, as Mandela said, that non-violence did not.   

(Though I used Ron's question to launch this answer, I present this to Duende, Whisper, Serv, SignR, SA and other thoughtful brothers and sisters with the hope that you can show me the possible failings of my reasoning...)


Edited by Jamal Morelli - 28 January 2009 at 6:12pm

After making a sincere attempt at answering you without animosity - well, I shouldn't be surprised with your ignorance and/or your willful obtusity.

I never said there was merit in balancing the murders, Ron.

Though you like to accuse this of our most literate, it is obvious:
You can't read or you won't read - either one casts an ugly light on your ability to discuss something as serious as this.

Now, you finally get the answer you are looking for?
What's the implication?
That you already have "The Answer", and wander around the site with your diapers full, allowing two brilliant sisters and a few of our older chaps to change them for you. This isn't an adult day care center, boo.

Now, after you get your "kind of answer":
You've slimed and distilled a gruesome conclusion from what I tried to describe only as a politics of last ditch efforts, a politics of the helpless but proud, a politics of despair, a politics of the ghettoized, the marginalized, the political struggle of the drowning.

And you read an embrace of murder out of all that?

After making a sincere attempt at answering you without animosity - well, I shouldn't be surprised with your ignorance and/or your willful obtusity.

I never said there was merit in balancing the murders, Ron.

Though you like to accuse this of our most literate, it is obvious:
You can't read or you won't read - either one casts an ugly light on your ability to discuss something as serious as this.

Now, you finally get the answer you are looking for?
What's the implication?
That you already have "The Answer", and wander around the site with your diapers full, allowing two brilliant sisters and a few of our older chaps to change them for you. This isn't an adult day care center, boo.

Now, after you get your "kind of answer":
You've slimed and distilled a gruesome conclusion from what I tried to describe only as a politics of last ditch efforts, a politics of the helpless but proud, a politics of despair, a politics of the ghettoized, the marginalized, the political struggle of the drowning.

And you read an embrace of murder out of all that?

 

Brother Jamal, please, worry not about this one. He has exposed himself just absolutely. I have analysed him word by word, he is here just for he enjoys provocation. He is here with his own agenda of indoctrination, plainly, out of some inferiority complex or as a paid agent of the Israeli services.

 

Brother, you have seen me with such chaps, just relax we will get rid of him. After your post he is persona non grata and will be dealt with as such.

Edited by Whisper - 28 January 2009 at 11:45pm

Jamal Morelli wrote: I never said there was merit in balancing the murders, Ron.

Edited by Ron Webb - 29 January 2009 at 4:57am