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   This is the reason why I insult your 'intelligence': 

>>Instead of addressing your assertions that evolution is fact and that humans did evolve from neanderthal, and that the Africa theory is fact when it is one theory, and that we share 99-98% DNA with apes, which has also been found incorrect, you choose to attack my intelligence.<<

Obviously you are saying I believed in all of these things (two of which are contradictory) and then whine about me insulting your intelligence. First, I never said humans came from Neaderthals for the last time I said the human ancestor Homo Erectus living in Africa migrated outward, eventually becoming the neaderthal (according to some studies) and some stayed in the northern most part of Africa. As I have said many times science has shown according to some fossil records that humans are most likely descendants from the Homo Erectus not only because of posture because of their usage of tools etc and other findings. Like I said before you probably got confused on my wording of saying "humans migrated outward from Africa" when instead I should have used the word hominids. As far as the DNA with Chimps are concerned you are right, it was 95% "Humans and chimps can have 95% or >98.5% similar DNA depending on which nucleotides are counted and which are excluded." In that I will give you.

"I may not be intelligent, or as intelligent as you believe yourself to be. I am not a scientist, as you also claim to be. But I would like to point out that so far in this discussion you have been wrong about almost every assertion you have made, then backtracked as you so often do when shown to be wrong, claiming you didn't state it, that's not what you meant, etc..."

Can you point out exactly where I was wrong besides your misunderstanding of  human ancestral origin and theDNA of Chimps and Humans? Do I think yuo are an intelligent human being? Sure. do I think you have good opinions? Sure. Do I think you know science? No. In fact like I said as a "lay person" picking and choosing what works for you is not a good way to solidify your opinion. I have not backtracked at anything I keep having to restate myself due to your inability to actually read my entire post. For instance when I said human ancestors are the Homo Erectus you keep saying: "Neanderthals are not our ancestors."

It seems like I'm backtracking because i keep having to repeat myself to get it through your head that I did not say Neanderthals were our ancestors.

"Instead of just admitting that you don't know what you are talking about, you try to make me look st**id?"

Frankly, I'm tired of going back and forth with you. I've posted data. I've explained data and all you can do is read Wikipedia and pretend you act like you know what the hell you're saying. It becomes frustrated for me because you are claiming to know what you are talking about. Ron (being a complete stranger to you and I) has pointed this out. You have a misunderstanding about genetics, evolution, and fossils altogether. Am I criticizing your intelligence in this particular category? Yes, not to my own benefit because I don't get any benefit out of degrading someone, I just get frustrated. My frustration comes when people are lazy enough to go on Wikipedia and get the source, which I might add can be edited by anyone from my understanding. Your other sources are decent, however backtracking is not the issue. The issue here is me having to repeat myself. Instead of me doing that why do you claim that you don't know what Evolution really means or what the difference between man and hominids are?

"Gee, I beat you to it. May not have as many fancy words, but the information is the same. And I posted it BEFORE your enlightening PDF, so are you copying me? Backtrack, backtrack....."

Sigh, really, ther eis no hope for you. I posted tht because I again, having to defend my position regarding your post stating I said humans are neanderthals was incorrect, thus me posting the PDF file. The file has nothing to do with fancy words it has everything to do with how they came up with their findings. For God's sakes.

"Instead of just admitting that you don't know what you are talking about, you try to make me look st**id?  Well, if you are indeed a scientist and you mistate your evidence or backtrack on findings as often as you do here I am appalled."

I'm apalled that you pretend you know anything about gene morphology and evolution by using Wikipedia. It's not even a credible source for research. Anyway, enough of this back and forth....seriously...... As far as my credentials are concerned I personally take offense because some of us put time and effort in research whether it is in the field of genetics or neroscience and the fact that you actually "think" you know what you're talking about is funny. Science has many divisions on theories you have post one of the many yet you accept it as truth because its WHAT YOU BELIEVE.....

"And every living thing is made primarily of water. That explains the similarity in our DNA with everything on this planet, including plants. 

This is all explained in the Quran and there is no doubt that God created man and everything else that exists. There is NO mention of man evolving in the Quran, God CREATED mankind as we are"

another "Sigh" this is to show to reject and contradict your assertion when you said "YOU DON'T BELIEVE LIFE CAME FROM A SINGLE CELLED ORGANISM" what I did was to show very briefly that single celled organisms habitats is in water and most likely all of life was in this big giant soup I'm sure you heard the 'Soup theory.' These living organisms being billions of years old evolved. If God made all of life from water then obviously there was a process in this formation of life. God may have said 'Be' and it is but how do we know that this creation was instantaneous? For all we know when God said 'BE' it could have taken several billion years.

He is God, the Creator, the Evolver, the Bestower of Forms (or Colors). To Him belong the Most Beautiful Names: whatever is in the heavens and on earth, doth declare His Praises and Glory: and He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise. (59:22-24).

Oh, by the way. If you think my attitude is bad try asking questions in Graduate School. Some of the professors can be harsh and will call you st**id without hesitation.  

Edited by Israfil - 25 September 2008 at 10:03pm