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martha
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Ron, Yes you are absolutely right. Thanks for pointing it out. However, what is your belief about John. Did he not die? Angela's reply was good, and as such one I would agree with, having once been LDS. I dont know how other Christians feel about John. |
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some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set
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myahya
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Is this the
same for the mahdi you speak of? And when will he be allowed to make himself
known? I didn�t know about John and it
was interesting for me. I see some similar aspects. I should say no
body knows the time Mahdi (as) will be appeared. Ali (as) and the other 11
leaders have told people if anyone at anytime claims that he or she knows when
Mahdi appears, they are telling a lie for sure. It can be a few seconds later,
days later or many years later. His first appearance would be beside Kaaba in And how does he guide people if they dont know him? He guides people in many
different ways. Remember that a visual contact is not necessary for guidance in any way, even though it can happen. There are many things to say, but in this post I would like to write one of the
answers given by the sixth leader of twelve who was called Imam Saadegh (as)
(Saadegh means one who always says the truth). Imam Saadegh (as) was asked how
people benefit from Mahdi (as) when they do not see or know him. He answered
that "it would be similar to the benefit of sun on a cloudy day when the
sun is behind the clouds". One may try to imagine how would it be without the sun even on a cloudy day...
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Ron Webb
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Of course he died. No mortal can live 2000 years. I am astonished that alleged monotheists are so ready to attribute superhuman powers to their holy men. |
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rami
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Bi ismillahi rahmani raheem
The opposite of that argument ron is that God cant give such a thing to a mortal man. Are you limiting what god can or cant do. |
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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.
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Angel
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I don't think ron is, but my 2 cents worth is that God did create us and there's only a few of us that can get to 120 yrs let alone live for 1000 or 2000 years
anyway what happened to the topic about God and Allah in islam and Christianity ? Edited by Angel |
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Ron Webb
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God could make a mortal man into another god too, but monotheists must believe that He did not. At the very least, such an extraordinary event as conferring god-like powers on a man (or woman, e.g., the virgin birth of Christ) ought to warrant some specific mention in the Bible, and should not have to be inferred. |
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poga
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hello ron you did not came by so i am here tell me ron who was the god who wrestle with job |
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myahya
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Ron, A monotheist never believes that a mortal is another God and can be
another God. Otherwise, I would not call him or her a monotheist. But, do
you really believe if a mortal lives for more than what you think is ordinary, then that mortal would be another God? Then I would say how small your God is ... !
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