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honeto
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Hi Anatolian, I don't think you can bet your car or you house on how much trust worthy your bible is , or would you? let alone this book you are talking about. What point you are trying to prove here? we never deny that pagan arabs put idols in the Kaba, Porphet Mohammad destroyed those idols much like Abraham did before as commanded by God. Let us talk about now what is the issie you have form now? As far as Haggar, Bible does say her to be Abraham's wife: ...Hagar .. gave her to her husband to be his wife. Genesis 16:3 Hasan
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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minuteman
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These are completely biased persons (anatolians). They see that Hagar was the wife of Abraham. The word wife is there. But still they deny it and want to play her down. But in the case of Jacob, they forget all. There the maids were being used at the behest of the wives. They were producing children and nobody cared about the inheritence of those children of the maids. Why is that?? It is because these people have no sense of judgement or decency. They are racial people and not just type of people. They talk of love but no justice. They have an antipathy towards Hagar and Ishmael. Of course Ishmael did not inherit with Issac. Abraham took Ishmael to a far away barren place in Arabia and settled him there. So both brothers inherited at different places. They inherited materially as well as spiritually. Whereas the Israelis suffered much as slaves and bondmen and bondwomen in Egypt, the Ishmaelis never had to do such bad thing. The temple of Israelis was also destroyed by the babylonians. Then another great reward for the Arabs: At the birth of Jesus, the Israelis were subjugated under the Roman pagan rule. Hazrat Isa a.s. could not do anything for his people and was arrested by the help of the Roman soldiers. The prophet Isa appeared in Palestine but was arrested and punished. No such thing happened to the prophet in Arabia because nobody was interested in occuptying the arrid (barren) Arabia. There was no king nearby to oppose our prophet s.a.w.s. So he had the severe oppostion from the related pagans only, no soldiers. That was a very wise step of hazrat Ibraheem a.s. to settle Hazrat ismaeel a.s in Arabia. Abraham had a very bad experience of the kings ( In native Iraq and egypt) He left his son Ishmael under divine guidance in Arabia where there was no charm. By the time any king could wake up to the situation, the holy prophet and his brave followers were ready to face the criminal kings and defeated the kings of Rome and Iran. Just think of another thing. When the Muslims got up, they had to face the tougher of the two kingdoms i.e. Roman king Kaisar. When Kaisar's forces were routed, the Iranian forces got the message of what was coming. There was no plan to attack any of the kingdom, had they behaved and let the people alone. If they had been spiritually guided and peaceful and not killed the unarmed Muslim preachers in their land then nobody would have attacked them. But they picked the fight thinking that they had a superior better army. That is the history of Peaceful Islam, i.e. what it used to be. Edited by minuteman |
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Ramala
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What is the difference between a concubine and a wife?
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