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peacemaker
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Anatolian, Please start one topic at a time, and stick to the topic. After the discussion has been concluded on that topic, start another topic. That is the standard way of learning. Peace |
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Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
Qur'an 55:13 |
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on1on5
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Dear Anatolian, I think the same that happens to you now, happened to me when I was at high school. As a person born to a Muslim community(like you as I guess) I certainly believed in god but it is not easy to face the questions about Islam and sheria especially about the issues like polygamy, marriage of the prophet Mohammed (pbuh) with Aisha, (and many similar questions follow: Is men superior to women, is it justice to cut the hand of a thief etc etc etc?) especially in the modern world and especially in th e breeze of globalism that turns its face to the west, western values and positivism, especially if there are many against Islam trying to find the "soft belly" of Islam. At these times I recommend you to turn back to the Quran and listen to what Allah tells you. And then when you read the Mohammed's life again you can understand things better and pieces will fit to their places. Mohammed (pbuh) is suggested as a model to Muslims but I believe there are many things to be discovered by us in his life beyond his daily life, his marriages etc. Of course these are also important but his being alone in world of injustice and primitive thoughts as a prophet, his debate, his invitation are worth thinking on. I hope your heart which is being bothered with questions and with a debate of reasoning, finds peace soon. Because belief is by mind and by heart at the same time as Allah says. As salaam. |
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islamispeace
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Have you not read the Old Testament? Do you not see the many differences between it and the New Testament? The most obvious one that comes to mind is the nature of God. Why is it that the New Testament God, if He is the same God of the Old Testament, so different in His nature? Why is it that the Old Testament God strictly prohibited certain types of food and meat, but the New Testament God does not? How is Christianity in this way a continuance of the message of God to humanity? Is this not an example of God changing His mind after 3,000 years on a different route? |
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Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)
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seekshidayath
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Its quite clear that you are n't here with good intentions. Else your post would not have been so ROUGH. Its not that God has changed the mind. The Almighty knows, the capacity of the minds of people like us. For instance, if your child intends to be a medical doctor, Will u directly admit him into a medical college, without any schooling and competitive exams. You don't right? Its quite clear that as that child may not grasp it due the incapacity, he's made capable all these years to get admitted in a medical college. Similarly, laws were introduced accordingly. Islam is no new religion. It was right from Adam AS. Though the other rules differed but the fundamental rule of ISlam was the same. All the Prophets preached to believe in one GOD. The other rules varied according to the time. By the time of Prophet Muhammad Peace be upon him, human minds reached the level of sophistication. And till today Holy Quran applies even to the new generations. Edited by seekshidayath |
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Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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Anatolian
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I doubt that the Qu'ran can be applied in modern times. You tend to
forget the Qu'ran is not only a religious guide but also every other aspect of life concerning health, politics, human rights and the sort. 1) Would you like to see a women stoned to death for adultery? 2) A thief's hand being chopped off? 3) An ex Muslim professing his new faith being intimidated and killed for this? 4) Those rejecting Islam who are either crucified, decapitated, hands and feet cut off? 5) Getting caught drinking and being lashed at with a wip? Just to name a few... If you answered yes to any of the above you should apply for perminent residency in either Saudia Arabia, Somalia, or Kandahar, Afghanistan (The Taliban I presume have a major presence there). |
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rami
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Bi ismillahi rahmani raheem
These are are all prescribed punishments from god that existed in scripture prior to Islam, certainly in Christianity and Judaism, therefor your reaction to them is nothing more than preconditioned emotions that you have chosen to uphold not a true indication of the nature of these crimes in God estimation since he is the truth not yourself. The question shouldnt be about these punishments since you will be punished for doing these wrong things according to all three faiths now or in the hereafter but which of the three faiths is correct and how you will fair in the afterlife. Your answer thus far seems to be my faith is in European society, wrong answer according to all religions. As spock would say Live long and propser. Edited by rami |
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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.
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Angel
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You mean Spock ? guess someone's not a trekki fan |
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~ Our feet are earthbound, but our hearts and our minds have wings ~
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rami
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Bi ismillahi rahmani raheem
Spock spoke that |
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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.
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