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(Who was the first muslim quran 6:14 says mohammad quran 7:143 says it was Moses) Answer: Both of these verses describe the first Muslim in each era. (Quran also says Adam was muslim.) Answer: That's right, because he is including those who surrender only to Allah. (I have explained about the meaning of the word "Islam") (Quran 2:29 earth was created first, then heaven Quran 79:27-30 heaven was created first then earth) Answer: That's right, please look at the Quran 2:29, there is a sentence: هُوَ الَّذِيْ خَلَقَ لَـكُمْ "He (Allah) created everything that is on earth for you" Not just creating earth. And there's sentence: ثُمَّ اسْتَوٰۤى اِلَى السَّمَآءِ فَسَوّٰٮهُنَّ سَبْعَ سَمٰوٰتٍ "He further went to sky, then perfected it into seven skys." This explains that previously there was a sky that was still in the form of smoke, then Allah perfected it into seven skys. (quran 7:54 - took 6 days to create universe Quran 41:9-12 - took 8 days to create universe) Answer: In both verses (7:54 and 41:11) there are words. ثُمَّ which means "together with" And if you examine these verses carefully, there will be explanation about the two creations: earth and sky. The earth (not including all of its contents) was created in 2 periods and mountains and all accessories on earth were created in 4 periods. Thus the earth and the mountains were created in 6 periods in Quran 41: 9,10. Whereas verses 11 and 12 say, "together with", the skys were created in 2 periods. The word "tsumma" used at the beginning of verse 11 of Surah Fussilat is to mean "together with". This indicates that the earth was created together with mountains and other equipment in 6 periods, together with the creation of the earth and everything in the sky was created in 2 periods simultaneously. Therefore the total is not 8 periods but 6 periods. Thus, Quran 7:54 and Quran 41:11 are not contradictory but statements in Quran 41: 9-12 give more details. (What is man created from Quran 19:67 - nothing) Answer: That means the nature of spirit before wrapped by the body. (Quran 96:2 - blood clot Quran 21:30 - water Quran 16:4 - small seed Quran 15:26 - Clay and mud) Answer: All that is mentioned in these verses are elements in human formation, which is informed by Allah in each verse. (Surah 3 59. The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was.) Answer: Yes, that's right. Adam was the first human being created (unlike other humans). Likewise Jesus, he was created become a man without a father. It indicates that Allah is all-Powerful. (60. The Truth [comes] from Allah alone; so be not of those who doubt.) Answer: Yes, that's right. Therefore, please do not doubt to His words. (61. If any one disputes in this matter with thee, now after [full] knowledge Hath come to thee, say: "Come! let us gather together,- our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves: Then let us earnestly pray, and invoke the curse of Allah on those who lie!") Answer: The verse explains that which is true between the Prophet Muhammad or them ?, so hope that Allah decreases the punishment to the wrong, but they don't dare. (Okay now who was the liar Muhammad or Allah?) Answer: The Prophet Muhammad and Allah did not lie, but the ones who lied were those who changed the book before the Qur'an so that many people were misled. |
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This was a open and clear cotradiction Muhmamad forgot wht he talked about ther could only be one six or eight days see how corrupted Muhammad's words was. (quran 7:54 - took 6 days to create universe Quran 41:9-12 - took 8 days to create universe) There no such thing as era for muslims the idea of muslim came out with Muhammad and all his followers must submit to him he was the muslim Allah cause he was in control. Muhammad lied for Allah. Qur'an 21:33. The sun orbits the earth the earth is stationary what a blunder the moon also was once upon time in Muhammad's time a sun blunders and blunders of lies. And He is the One Who created the day and the night, the sun and the moon—each travelling in an orbit.Sahih Muslim 1:297 It is narrated on the authority of Abu Dharr that the
Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) one day said: Do you know where the
Sun goes? They replied: Allah and His Apostle know best. He (the Holy Prophet)
observed: Verily it (the Sun) glides till it reaches its resting place under
the Throne. Then it falls prostrate and remains there until it is asked: Rise
up and go to the place whence you came, and it goes back and continues emerging
out from its rising place and then glides till it reaches its place of rest
under the Throne and falls prostrate and remains in that state until it is
asked: Rise up and return to the place whence you came, and it returns and
emerges out from it rising place and the it glides (in such a normal way) that
the people do not discern anything (unusual in it) till it reaches its resting
place under the Throne. Then it would be said to it: Rise up and emerge out
from the place of your setting, and it will rise from the place of its setting.
The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said. Do you know when it would
happen? It would happen at the time when faith will not benefit one who has not
previously believed or has derived no good from the faith. First Allah said the sun sets in a murky pool then Allah said it set under his throne errors of Allah and lies. |
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Answer: If I may guess that you are an apostate Muslim cleric, because it can be seen from the verses and hadiths that you convey. You look like the one in my Country. Unfortunately people like you are only struggling on issues that have to do with history etc. As for about related who God really is, you avoid it a little. Though it will be very dangerous if we die not knowing who the real God is. But for me it doesn't matter because it is only Allah who can give guidance even the Prophets cannot. وَمَا عَلَيْنَاۤ اِلَّا الْبَلٰغُ الْمُبِيْنُ "And our obligation is only to convey (the command of Allah) clearly." (Quran 36: 17) خَتَمَ اللّٰهُ عَلٰى قُلُوْبِهِمْ وَعَلٰى سَمْعِهِمْ ۗ وَعَلٰىۤ اَبْصَارِهِمْ غِشَاوَةٌ وَّلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ عَظِيْمٌ "Allah has locked their hearts and hearing, their eyesight has been closed, and they will get a severe punishment" (Quran 2: 7) "And given the power to him will do the punishment, therefore Jesus is a human child." (John 5:27) This means that Jesus is a human child, not son of God.
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You said: (What is man created from Quran 96:2 - blood clot Quran 21:30 - water Quran 16:4 - small seed Quran 15:26 - Clay and mud) Answer: All that is mentioned in these verses are elements in human formation, which is informed by Allah in each verse. So all these verses are interrelated with one another, there's no contradict as a whole. Now, it's my turn to ask you. How many verses are there in Mark 16: ? Sorry, please don't answer incorrectly because many people have been seeing in this forum. |
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"Allah has locked their hearts and hearing, their eyesight has been closed, and they will get a severe punishment" (Quran 2: 7) What sort of a guidance is this? Locked their hearts. Locked their hearing. Locked their eyesight. Allah take all this privilleges away from mankind and then he punish them. How can Allah take all this away and still think mankind must guide themself to back Allah hear no see no evil do no evil so Allah deliberately let them go astray and then he punish them a very fair God to let them on the sos called straight path. Oh you are so clever you must surely be Mufti. This is a prophecy of Daniel (John 5:27)"And given the power to him will do the punishment, therefore Jesus is a human child." Daniel 7:9-10 introduces and describes the Ancient of Days
as He appears in Daniel's vision: “I kept looking until thrones were set up, and the Ancient
of Days took His seat; His vesture was like white snow and the hair of His head
like pure wool. His throne was ablaze with flames, its wheels were a burning
fire. A river of fire was flowing and coming out from before Him; Thousands
upon thousands were attending Him, and myriads upon myriads were standing
before Him; The court sat, and the books were opened," (Daniel 7:9-10) A few verses later
the passage goes on to explain: "I kept looking in the night visions, and behold, with
the clouds of heaven One like a Son of Man was coming, and He came up to the
Ancient of Days and was presented before Him. and to Him was given dominion,
glory and a kingdom, that all the peoples, nations and men of every language
might serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion which will not pass
away; And His kingdom is one which will not be destroyed," (Daniel
7:13-14) And His kingdom is one which will not be destroyed And His kingdom is one which will not be destroyed And His kingdom is one which will not be destroyed And His kingdom is one which will not be destroyed Thats what your Prophet had in mind to do destroy the kingdom of God but he lost.
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("Allah has locked their hearts and hearing, their eyesight has been closed, and they will get a severe punishment" (Quran 2: 7) What sort of a guidance is this?) Answer: The verse explains that there will be some people who are like that, because Allah created heaven and hell there must be residents. Some of the followers of previous Prophets were devout and some were disobedient. And those who have denied had the punishment in the world, not yet in the hereafter. (Thats what your Prophet had in mind to do destroy the kingdom of God but he lost) Answer: Prophet Muhammad was sent to strengthen the kingdom of Allah, not to destroy it. Instead you are classified as someone who will destroy it. Matthew 15:9 "It is useless to worship Me (Allah), while the teachings they teach are human commands.” Quran 61: 8 يُرِيْدُوْنَ لِيُطْفِـئُـوْا نُوْرَ اللّٰهِ بِاَ فْوَاهِهِمْ وَاللّٰهُ مُتِمُّ نُوْرِهٖ وَلَوْ كَرِهَ الْكٰفِرُوْنَ "They want to extinguish the light (religion) of Allah with their mouths (sayings), but Allah still perfects His light even though unbelievers hate it." The Kingdom of Allah will not destroy forever. |
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That was a prophecy of Jesus. Now where is Allah's kingdom?
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Here are the answers. Allah Ta'ala Said: تَبٰرَكَ الَّذِيْ بِيَدِهِ الْمُلْكُ ۖ وَهُوَ عَلٰى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيْرُ "Exalted is He who holds all control in His hands; who has power over all things;" (Quran 67: 1) Allah Ta'ala Said: وَلِلّٰهِ مَا فِى السَّمٰوٰتِ وَمَا فِى الْاَرْضِ ۗ وَكَفٰى بِاللّٰهِ وَكِيْلًا وَلِلَّهِ مَا فِی ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٰتِ وَمَا فِی ٱلۡ�£َرۡضِۚ وَكَفَىٰ بِٱللَّهِ وَكِیلًا "Yes, indeed, everything in the heavens and the earth belongs to Allah, and He is enough for those who trust in Him." (Quran 4: 132) Allah Ta'ala Said: لَـقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِيْنَ قَالُوْۤا اِنَّ اللّٰهَ هُوَ الْمَسِيْحُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ ۗ قُلْ فَمَنْ يَّمْلِكُ مِنَ اللّٰهِ شَيْئًـــا اِنْ اَرَادَ اَنْ يُّهْلِكَ الْمَسِيْحَ ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ وَاُمَّهٗ وَمَنْ فِى الْاَرْضِ جَمِيْعًا ۗ وَلِلّٰهِ مُلْكُ السَّمٰوٰتِ وَالْاَرْضِ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا ۗ يَخْلُقُ مَا يَشَآءُ ۗ وَاللّٰهُ عَلٰى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيْرٌ "Those who say, ‘God is the Messiah, the son of Mary,’ are defying the truth. Say, ‘If it had been God’s will, could anyone have prevented Him from destroying the Messiah, son of Mary, together with his mother and everyone else on earth? Control of the heavens and earth and all that is between them belongs to Allah: He creates whatever He will. Allah has power over everything.’ (Quran 5: 17) All three verses show that it is Allah who has the Kingdom both everything in heaven and on earth, including Who monitor your behavior. And the other verses. Now my question that you have not answered. How many verses are there in Mark 16: ? Why are you so scared to answer it? Are you afraid to be seen by many people in this forum ? |
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