I agree, that's all you had to do. I appreciate points being cleared up. But since when were Shiites not considered Muslim? And what about the honor killings, and the executions done by Sunnis against Shiites, and so-called apostates? What about the mass executions that occur in the middle east by the hands of Muslims against other muslims over religious issues?
What about the protests that were done by Palestinians and other Muslims all over the middle-east, protesting the charecterization of Mohammed in a violent manner with violence, and obvious belligrent behaviors? Why does it seem that your civilization is stuck in the past? And even when I think of the past of your civilization, the middle ages for example, one can clearly see that your people were more open-minded and eccelctic back then. What about the Israeli soildiers that have been torn asunder by Palestinians with bare hands, and Jewish children that were chopped into little peices after being raped? I understand that these people believe in reciprocity, but why kill children in such atrocious ways, and why mutilate soildiers? Why don't you just execute them by hanging or something like that if you believe them to be evil and yourselves to be good? I understand that there are victims on both sides, but I do not believe that it is a coincidence or the "fault of the west" that almost every Islamic nation is a place replete with fear, violence, murder, terrorism, oppresion, propoganda, and extreme anti-semitism. Maybe these things exist elsewhere, but not to such a high degree as you would see in Afganistan or Iran, even without the Americans and the Russians.
Many people say that the Palestinians were living in prosperity before Jewish rule, but I have seen Turkish prisons, and have read many accounts of life before the State of Israel, and I would not consider this a paradise or a land of prosperity. The Islamic world has a high rate of poverty, a lack of education, and a serious problem with violence. This is not recent, this process started in the middle ages when Islam threw logic out the window. It seems that Islam appeals to emotions rather than the mind.
Any criticism is met with hostility and brutality to the point where people are labeled insane and uninteligent for having antithetical perspectives. It is as if the Islamic civilization has turned into a horde of inquisitors. I know that there is a group of you that are human beings, and I embrace this group with my heart. It is difficult to see all of this violence and anger coming from the middle east, and to conclude that all of this is the product of poverty and western corruption. Osama Bin Laden was a member of the Saudi royal house, and the very rich, in Muslim countries seem, as if they are more dangerous and more angry than the poor. This intertwined with the fact that many of these people were involved,financially speaking, with western nations, makes me all the more angrier. These people abhor and condemn the same nations that provide them income while starving their own people and blaming it on the west. It is appaling, to think that they call fourth for Jihad, yet how many of their children are fighting these wars with their bare hands? And how many children of regular people are dying every day because these oligarchs want to fill their pockets with treasure? It seems that spirituality for many Muslims is a situational phenonmenon that is only advantageous if it is politically, personally, or financially rewarding.
I understand that the world is not devoid of such things, and I never said that it is not, there are also Jewish extermists, I was one of them at one point or another. All of this drama, in the modern era, is coming from the middle east. It is as if you are trying to restore your former glory and knock down these skyscrapers to "even out the playing feild," where your people thereafter, being the "midgets" that they are, can finnally be on an equal level with the former giants that dominated the sky; it seems as if this is intension. No matter how many conscessions that we seem to make it is never enough. A Muslim leader was quoted as saying "that the world will be liberated from the Jews to the point where every tree will be free from them." What is that you all really want? Do you want us to be Muslim? To be like you? To convert to your religion and be as miserable as you? Because we are not like you, we cannot worship God in the manner that you worship God. I have no problem with your people or religion, just do not shove it in my face, and blame every Jew for what happened in 1948 or in Medina with Mohammed. You tell me not to generalize, why not tell your brethren the same things when they enunciate blanket statements against the Jews, or the west? This is utter hyporcisy, if you want me to be civil and open-minded, I expect the same of your brothers.
All that I have heard from the begining were anti-Semetic remarks, catalyzed and conditioned by propogandistic "verities" in their countries of origin, and a whole bunch of hypocricy. I do not disagree with all the criticisms, it is the propoganda, and hypocrisy that drives me to the beaking point. Any so-called fact that was heard through the "grape vine," was a product of biased literature, or something your brothers just make up because of the blind hatred in their hearts. I do not hide the facts, I told you, if you do not believe my words, if you want evidence, go to Israel and see for yourself. Live with a 100 families on both sides and then come to a conclusion! My intention is to elucidate the facts and understand the positions and the mistakes on both sides transparently.
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