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salamualaikum,

the truth is, nobody can tell who will go to heaven and who will go to hell.  only rasulullah is able to do that.

but we do know what will make us go to hell and what will make us go to heaven.

if you ask whether a criminal or the victim will go to hell or heaven, the answer is, only Allah knows.

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Assalamu Alaikum:

Islamically, if we wrong someone we should seek forgiveness from that person. This is part of seeking forgiveness from this sin from Allah(SWT) as the person we wronged has that right over us.

This is so important that before performing Hajj you must seek forgiveness, return anything that you have borrowed to it's rightful owner, and repay any money you owe.

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Allah says that if there was not a single person on the earth with the faith 'there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah' ( that is, if there was not a single muslim person on the earth ) then Allah would destroy the heavens and the earths and all that is between them.

a muslim is so special to Allah. angel, i suggest that you gain more knowledge (if Allah wills) why islam is true, perfect, unique religion. if Allah wills then Allah will make you a muslim

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Asalamu Alaikum Everyone
 
 
Just want to put my opinion in this matter...
 
Good deeds vs Bad deeds.... will be set on a scale. 
 
If your a muslim, you will go to heaven or hell depending on which side the scale tips... or which side is heavier.
 
If your a muslim, and your bad deeds weigh more than your good deeds, you'll go to hell, untill the intercession of Prophet Mohammad comes.  Where he will bow down in front of the Lord, and remain in that position for time period we dont know, and after that period, Allah will ask him to raise his head and tell him to Ask what he wants of his Lord.  Then prophet mohammad will ask Allah to forgive the muslims and he will do it..  this process will take 4x, he will bow 4 times, 4th time would be the people that have an atom worth of faith in Allah. And they will be forgiven, through intercession of prophet mohammad.
 
As for your comment on whether this is "comforting" giving an anology of a criminal.  Say you stole some candy from store... and say you were put in hell for it.  Do  you think its fair to keep that person in hell forever for that piece of candy?   Even in jails people are released, after they have paid for their crimes. 
 
Allah is the most just, and most merciful, He will not misjudge anyone, for each individual has 2 angels on his left and right shoulder recording everything they say, and have his flesh speak on the judgement day testifying for his actions.  Does Allah need this proof? No, he is aware of what you do and what you will do, and what you have done in the past.  The proof is for you, on judgement day you will want to deny every sin, but your lips will be sealed, and your fless will talk....the proof is for yourself.  
 
Without the intecession of prophet mohammad, muslims who have done bad deed would stay in hell forever.
 
For those who deny Allah as one God and associate partners with him, they will abide in hell forever.  For they denied the message of their lord and said it was all lies.  And on that day, they will be thrown into the blazing fire and will be told, this is what ye used to deny.
 
Anyone who didn't receice the message of God, will be dealt in a different manner that is just.
 
Quran is the undeinable proof that it was sent down by Allah.  There is so much evidence, in light of science and Quran alone to prove without any doubt that this book is divine.
 
Ok, thats all I had to say for now.
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Originally posted by DigitalStorm82 DigitalStorm82 wrote:

Without the intecession of prophet mohammad, muslims who have done bad deed would stay in hell forever.
 

i think you may be wrong in stating this. i think those muslims who are in hell if Allah wills Allah will remove them without anyone's intercession.

as far as i know, with Allah's permission prophet muhammad's (may peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) intercession may come before the muslims are cast in hell fire.

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Originally posted by salman salman wrote:

Originally posted by DigitalStorm82 DigitalStorm82 wrote:

Without the intecession of prophet mohammad, muslims who have done bad deed would stay in hell forever.
 

i think you may be wrong in stating this. i think those muslims who are in hell if Allah wills Allah will remove them without anyone's intercession.

as far as i know, with Allah's permission prophet muhammad's (may peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) intercession may come before the muslims are cast in hell fire.

again, i am not sure about what i said but this is what i think. may be what digital said is right.

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*****screaming*****

aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhh

Originally posted by salman salman wrote:

Allah says that if there was not a single person on the earth with the faith 'there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah' ( that is, if there was not a single muslim person on the earth ) then Allah would destroy the heavens and the earths and all that is between them.

That answers my quiries, how?

Quote a muslim is so special to Allah. angel, i suggest that you gain more knowledge (if Allah wills) why islam is true, perfect, unique religion. if Allah wills then Allah will make you a muslim

You're not helping

Since you are not exactly answering my quiries I am assuming you do not know the information

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Originally posted by DigitalStorm82 DigitalStorm82 wrote:

Asalamu Alaikum Everyone
 
 
Just want to put my opinion in this matter...
 
Good deeds vs Bad deeds.... will be set on a scale. 
 
If your a muslim, you will go to heaven or hell depending on which side the scale tips... or which side is heavier.
 
If your a muslim, and your bad deeds weigh more than your good deeds, you'll go to hell, untill the intercession of Prophet Mohammad comes.  Where he will bow down in front of the Lord, and remain in that position for time period we dont know, and after that period, Allah will ask him to raise his head and tell him to Ask what he wants of his Lord.  Then prophet mohammad will ask Allah to forgive the muslims and he will do it..  this process will take 4x, he will bow 4 times, 4th time would be the people that have an atom worth of faith in Allah. And they will be forgiven, through intercession of prophet mohammad.
 
As for your comment on whether this is "comforting" giving an anology of a criminal.  Say you stole some candy from store... and say you were put in hell for it.  Do  you think its fair to keep that person in hell forever for that piece of candy?   Even in jails people are released, after they have paid for their crimes. 
 
Allah is the most just, and most merciful, He will not misjudge anyone, for each individual has 2 angels on his left and right shoulder recording everything they say, and have his flesh speak on the judgement day testifying for his actions.  Does Allah need this proof? No, he is aware of what you do and what you will do, and what you have done in the past.  The proof is for you, on judgement day you will want to deny every sin, but your lips will be sealed, and your fless will talk....the proof is for yourself.  
 
Without the intecession of prophet mohammad, muslims who have done bad deed would stay in hell forever.
 
For those who deny Allah as one God and associate partners with him, they will abide in hell forever.  For they denied the message of their lord and said it was all lies.  And on that day, they will be thrown into the blazing fire and will be told, this is what ye used to deny.
 
Anyone who didn't receice the message of God, will be dealt in a different manner that is just.
 
Quran is the undeinable proof that it was sent down by Allah.  There is so much evidence, in light of science and Quran alone to prove without any doubt that this book is divine.
 
Ok, thats all I had to say for now.

Thank you for answering my quiries even if its your opinion

But as Salman has mentioned those (muslims) who have an atom of faith [even if they are criminals and I'm not exactly talking about a candy being stolen] will get into heaven, and this is where I questioned about criminals for which Salman is not answering.

Salman.....see  this is what I've been looking for

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