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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 April 2005 at 10:57am
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...Mate = friend....It could also mean to copulate, I understand a fair amount of the aforementioned activity happens outside of marital relationships (be they same sex or hetrosexual).......but I can assure you that I was using the word purely in context of friendship.

Regardless of who wrote the history of WW2, I'm sure that the Nazi did quite enough to ensure they got a bad write-up. 

I am afraid your definition of �mate� is as ridiculous as your knowledge of Nazi-Zionist collaboration (or a case of self-denial)!

Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letter for its name, "Tel Aviv", while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was Zionist owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party (Nazi) member. Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical absurdity". Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a little-known chapter of history: The wide ranging collaboration between Jews and Hitler's Third Reich.

In early January 1941 a small but important Jewish organization submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made by the radical underground "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel", better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi - Etzel) over the group's attitude toward Britain, which had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.

This remarkable proposal "for the solution of the Jewish question in Europe and the active participation on the NMO [Lehi] in the war on the side of Germany" is worth quoting at some length:

"The NMO which is very familiar with the goodwill of the German Reich government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany and the Zionist emigration program takes the view that:

  1. Common interests can exist between a European New Order based on the German concept and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as embodied by the NMO.
  2. Cooperation is possible between the New Germany and a renewed, folkish-national Jewry.
  3. The establishment of the Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, and bound by treaty, with the German Reich, would be in the interest of maintaining and strengthening the future German position of power in the Near East.

On the basis of these considerations, and upon the condition that the German Reich government recognize the national aspirations of the Israel Freedom Movement mentioned above, the NMO in Palestine offers to actively take part in the war on the side of Germany.

This offer by the NMO could include military, political and informational activity within Palestine and, after certain organizational measures, outside as well. Along with this the "Jewish" men of Europe would be militarily trained and organized in military units under the leadership and command of the NMO. They would take part in combat operations for the purpose of conquering Palestine, should such a front be formed.

The indirect participation of the Israel Freedom Movement in the New Order of Europe, already in the preparatory stage, combined with a positive-radical solution of the European-Jewish problem on the basis of the national aspirations of the Jewish people mentioned above, would greatly strengthen the moral foundation of the New Order in the eyes of all humanity.

On the basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and nationhood, National Socialists and Jews worked together for what each group believed was in its own national interests.

This was just one example of the Zionist movements' collaboration with Hitler for the purpose of receiving jurisdiction over a minute piece of earth, Muslim Palestine.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 April 2005 at 12:15pm

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Quote I am afraid your definition of �mate� is as ridiculous as your knowledge of Nazi-Zionist collaboration (or a case of self-denial)!

Rehmat, far from ridiculous, I think you'll find that there are several definitions for the word "mate".... Your above post makes it fairly apparent that you are the type that likes making semi-informed propagandists statements...So for now, I'm prepared to make allowances for your over-exuberance.  :---)

You might want to take a look here: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=mate

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 April 2005 at 12:21pm

Originally posted by Colin Colin wrote:

...Rehmat, far from ridiculous, I think you'll find that there are several definitions for the word "mate".... Your above post makes it fairly apparent that you are the type that likes making semi-informed propagandists statements...So for now, I'm prepared to make allowances for your over-exuberance....

Hey, my answer is still the same - I am NOT one of those 26-30 million American gays - majority of whom happens to be Jews (proportion to their population - of course).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 April 2005 at 12:26pm
Originally posted by Rehmat Rehmat wrote:

Originally posted by Colin Colin wrote:

...Rehmat, far from ridiculous, I think you'll find that there are several definitions for the word "mate".... Your above post makes it fairly apparent that you are the type that likes making semi-informed propagandists statements...So for now, I'm prepared to make allowances for your over-exuberance....

Hey, my answer is still the same - I am NOT one of those 26-30 million American gays - majority of whom happens to be Jews (proportion to their population - of course).

Thanks Rehmat, keep talking, you are proving my claim much better than I ever could.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 April 2005 at 12:58pm

Originally posted by Colin Colin wrote:

Thanks Rehmat, keep talking, you are proving my claim much better than I ever could.

Any time buddy (Oops, 'mate')!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 April 2005 at 3:51pm
Originally posted by ZamanH ZamanH wrote:

Originally posted by Kim! Kim! wrote:

If you repress people's instincts or feelings, then those feelings and instincts will emerge in some other way, some other time. Why do you think Catholic priests have so much sex?

Yeah, I agree. But going to the other extreme is not the solution, either. We should adopt a middle approach.

Law should enforce women to wear veil to eliminate prostitution in all its forms. Prostitution should be defined as extracting materialistic favours from other men, by sexually exciting them, by  women.

 

 

Hi,

The veil does not stop prostitution. Iran is a perfect example. I saw some Iranian movies last year at the Melbourne International Film Festival. In one of the documentaries, a woman told the story of being at a man's house (she was working as a prostitute) when his wife came home unexpectedly. The naked prostitute threw on her black gear (sorry, I have forgotten the word used in Iran to describe those big, black, full body coverings) and the husband explained to her wife that because it was raining outside, an old woman had asked to come into the house to pray, instead of trying to get home in the rain.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 April 2005 at 11:34pm
Originally posted by Rehmat Rehmat wrote:

Originally posted by Colin Colin wrote:

Thanks Rehmat, keep talking, you are proving my claim much better than I ever could.

Any time buddy (Oops, 'mate')!

Rehmat, sorry to spoil your "fun", but to launch straight in with a personal attack on me, namely, labelling my definition of the word "mate" ridiculous and questioning my understanding of the English language, without even bothering to check a dictionary first (where you would have found that my use of the word "mate" was indeed perfectly correct), to me, speaks volumes about your credibility as a member of this forum. Let's face it, if you can't even bother to check a simple word definition, how do you expect fellow members to have any confidence in the validity of the large amount of, shall we say; "highly politicized" material that you so frequently copy and paste from other web sites?

Perhaps a little less quantity and a little more quality would improve the situation. :----)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 April 2005 at 4:25am

Originally posted by Colin Colin wrote:

....Perhaps a little less quantity and a little more quality would improve the situation. :----)

Excuse me, did I hear you talking in front of your mirror!

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