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asep garutea
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The God of the Prophet Muhammad is the same with the God of Jesus and others Prophets/Apostles.
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Now you taking a fat change like your Prophet Muhammad. Read Exodus 3 But Moses replied, “When I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your ancestors sent me to you,’ they will ask me, ‘What is his name?’ So what can I tell them?” 14 C)" data-cr="#cen-GNT-1563C">God said, “I am who I am. You must tell them: ‘The one who is called I Am has sent me to you.’ 15 Tell the Israelites that I, the Lord, the God of their ancestors, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, have sent you to them. This is my name forever; this is what all future generations are to call me. 16 Go and gather the leaders of Israel together and tell them that I, the Lord, the God of their ancestors, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, appeared to you. Here is you so called prophet's version. Sura 69 at the back side of the Quran the first so called revelation. Nowhere did Jibrill said I am jibrill a angel or never had he said Allah send me. 1. Proclaim! [or read!] in the name of thy Lord and
Cherisher, Who created- 2. Created man, out of a [mere] clot of congealed blood: 3. Proclaim! And thy Lord is Most Bountiful,- 4. He Who taught [the use of] the pen,- 5. Taught man that which he knew not. 6. Day, but man doth transgress all bounds, 7. In that he looketh upon himself as self-sufficient. 8. Verily, to thy Lord is the return [of all]. 9. Seest thou one who forbids- 10. A votary when he [turns] to pray? 11. Seest thou if he is on [the road of] Guidance?- 12. Or enjoins Righteousness? 13. Seest thou if he denies [Truth] and turns away? 14. Knoweth he not that Allah doth see? 15. Let him beware! If he desist not, We will drag him by
the forelock,- 16. A lying, sinful forelock! 17. Then, let him call [for help] to his council [of
comrades]: 18. We will call on the angels of punishment [to deal with
him]! 19. Day, heed him not: But bow down in adoration, and bring
thyself the closer What kind of a God wanted his share of Muhammad's mercilees spoils of war stolen goods from his enemy so Allah was depending on Muhammad's booty. So Allah is not the God as the Jews. Quran 8:40 And know that whatever ye take as spoils of war,
lo! a fifth thereof is for Allah, and for the messenger and for the kinsman
(who hath need) and orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, if ye believe in
Allah and that which We revealed unto Our slave on the Day of Discrimination,
the day when the two armies met. And Allah is Able to do all things. Sahih Bukhari 4:53:351 Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah: Allah's
Apostle said, "Booty has been made legal for me."
Then he collected the booty and the fire came to burn it,
but it did not burn it. He said (to his men), 'Some of you have stolen
something from the booty. So one man from every tribe should give me a pledge
of allegiance by shaking hands with me.' (They did so and) the hand of a man
got stuck over the hand of their prophet. Then that prophet said (to the man),
'The theft has been committed by your people. So all the persons of your tribe
should give me the pledge of allegiance by shaking hands with me.' The hands of
two or three men got stuck over the hand of their prophet and he said,
"You have committed the theft.' Then they brought a head of gold like the
head of a cow and put it there, and the fire came and consumed the booty. The
Prophet added: Then Allah saw our weakness and disability, so he made booty
legal for us." |
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asep garutea
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Anyone who doesn't understand the true meaning of Allah's Words, will think badly, etc. Likewise with the contents of the shahih hadith.
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This was in Quran not hadith. Quran 8:40 And know that whatever ye take as spoils of war, lo! a fifth thereof is for Allah. I thought the Quran is so clear that anybody could understand that. Why would God appoint a prophet who had no knowledge of the Taura? Even Muhammad's Allah had no no knowledge of the Taura. The Almighty God will not do that.
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asep garutea
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Quran 8:40 that you wrote is WRONG. And the truth is as follows: Allah Ta'ala Said: وَاِنْ تَوَلَّوْا فَاعْلَمُوْۤا اَنَّ اللّٰهَ مَوْلٰٮكُمْ ۗ نِعْمَ الْمَوْلٰى وَنِعْمَ النَّصِيْرُ "And if they turn away, then know that Allah is your protector. He is the best of protectors and the best of helpers." (Quran 8: 40) (Why would God appoint a prophet who had no knowledge of the Taura? Even Muhammad's Allah had no no knowledge of the Taura. The Almighty God will not do that.) Can you prove it reasonably ? Please do not in your opinion, because not everyone will believe in you which you are not God.
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Read one verse further. Surah 8:40-41. How can Allah be our protector if he want his spoils of war. Muhammad just made sure he get more out of the war. 40. If they refuse, be sure that Allah is your Protector - the best to protect and the best to help. 41. And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire [in war], a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer,- if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing,- the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things. Matt 5:44 But I say to you, love your enemies and bless the one who curses you, and do what is beautiful to the one who hates you, and pray over those who take you by force and persecute you. Same God Same God Same you explain to me.
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(How can Allah be our protector if he want his spoils of war.) Answer: You only see meaningfully in its default language, even though what is meant for Allah here is that the spoil of war must be used in the way of Allah. So the word "lillahi" here is an opening word for "littabarruk" (get a blessing). So you must understand that Allah doesn't need anything because He is the Richest (owner of heaven and earth). The purpose of mentioning the word "lillahi" here, is only to teach Muslims to familiarize "tabarruk" with the name of Allah, which is to do an act by mentioning His name first. In Quran 8:41 there is a sentence : يَوْمَ الْتَقَى الْجَمْعٰنِ ۗ "The day when the two armies met." This explains the time of the Badr war that took place on Friday 17th Ramadan the second year of Hijriyah. This means that only applies when Muslims are attacked or fought. (Muhammad just made sure he get more out of the war.) Answer: It's only your opinion who doesn't like the Prophet Muhammad. (Matt 5:44 But I say to you, love your enemies and bless the one who curses you, and do what is beautiful to the one who hates you, and pray over those who take you by force and persecute you.) Answer: Allah Ta'ala Said : فَبِمَا رَحْمَةٍ مِّنَ اللّٰهِ لِنْتَ لَهُمْ ۚ وَلَوْ كُنْتَ فَظًّا غَلِيْظَ الْقَلْبِ لَانْفَضُّوْا مِنْ حَوْلِكَ ۖ فَاعْفُ عَنْهُمْ وَاسْتَغْفِرْ لَهُمْ وَشَاوِرْهُمْ فِى الْاَمْرِ ۚ فَاِذَا عَزَمْتَ فَتَوَكَّلْ عَلَى اللّٰهِ ۗ اِنَّ اللّٰهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُتَوَكِّلِيْنَ "Then thanks to the mercy of Allah you (Muhammad) are gentle to them. If you act hard and have a rough heart, surely they will distance themselves from your surroundings. Therefore forgive them and ask forgiveness for them, and consult with them in the matter. Then, if you have made up your mind, then put your trust in Allah. Truly, Allah loves those who trust themselves. (Tawakkal)." (Quran 3: 159) Muslims are strictly forbidden by Allah to wage war unless it is fought. Here is His Word: Allah Ta'ala Said : لَا يَنْهٰٮكُمُ اللّٰهُ عَنِ الَّذِيْنَ لَمْ يُقَاتِلُوْكُمْ فِى الدِّيْنِ وَلَمْ يُخْرِجُوْكُمْ مِّنْ دِيَارِكُمْ اَنْ تَبَرُّوْهُمْ وَ تُقْسِطُوْۤا اِلَيْهِمْ ۗ اِنَّ اللّٰهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُقْسِطِيْنَ "Allah does not forbid you to do good and be fair to those who do not fight you in religious matters and do not drive you out of your hometown. Surely Allah loves those who act justly." (Quran 60: 8) Therefore, if you want to know the contents of the Quran, then learn the right ones to get "hikmah" (the wisdom) from the contents of the Quran. |
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This means litteral that Allah get his spoils of war stolen goods that he and Muhammad share so don't come to me cause it was war and then utter some peacefull Surahs in Muhammad's Quran Muhammad was always at to cash up for his army and personal income.
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