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MIAW
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Incorrect. see my much earlier post.
Correct! Prophet Jesus (Isa) PBUH did give gald tidings of another prophet called 'Ahmad' (another name for Muhammad) coming after him. However unfortunately the later church clergy (At a time when the church was the absolute authority) decided to remove this from the Gospel for obvious reasons. The Qur'an informed us of this prophecy of Jesus PBUH: وَإِذْ قَالَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ إِنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ إِلَيْكُمْ مُصَدِّقًا لِمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيَّ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ وَمُبَشِّرًا بِرَسُولٍ يَأْتِي مِنْ بَعْدِي اسْمُهُ أَحْمَدُ فَلَمَّا جَاءَهُمْ بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ قَالُوا هَذَا سِحْرٌ مُبِينٌ [61:6] And remember, 'Isa, the son of Maryam, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs they said, "This is evident sorcery!" Edited by MIAW - 26 January 2018 at 1:28pm |
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asep garut
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In 1929, US astronomer Edwin Hubble to make observations and see distant galaxies and always moving away from us at high speed. He also saw the distance between galaxies increases every moment. Hubble's discovery showed that the universe is not static as we believed for a long time, but the move expands. This then raises an estimate that the universe began with a huge explosion in the past, called the Big Bang. Allah says in Quran 21:30 �Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were a joined together as one united piece, then We parted them? And We have made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? � The verse informs that at the beginning of the earth, the sky, and all the heavenly bodies is one unified, then explode and scattered like what we see now. This proves that the Quran 14 centuries ago has informed about matters relating to science. Nowadays, science is very important for human beings who want to prove the truth of Allah's Word in Quran. Nicolaus Copernicus (1473-1543) said: �All sky objects move surround the sun in circle tracks.� This is known as the Heliocentric theory which was presented in his book entitled De Revolutionibus Orbium Coelestium, but his theory was perfected by Sir Isaac Newton, a scientist who is enhance the previous theories, and the following is his statement: �Every object in the Universe attracts every other object with a force directed along the line of centers for the two objects that is proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the separation between the two objects.� Quran 36:38 �And the sun runs on its orbit, That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing.� This verse has provided information that the sun has an orbit and circulate together with the type of suns beyond our solar system. Those facts prove that the contents of the Quran is impossible be made by humans or any creatures including the Prophet Muhammad. Quran down to earth around the 14th century, whereas the theory of scientists emerged later, that is around the 18-20 Century. �Say: � If the mankind and the jinn were together to produce the like of this Qur�an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they helped one another.�� (Qur�an 17:88) |
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Tim the plumber
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That in no way describes the Big Bang. The Big Bang happened and there was still no earth. Still no water. Billions of years went by and then there were stars, galaxies and black holes. These produced the elements other than hydrogen in explosions. Then more billions of years went by with more explosions and collisions which have resulted in more stars and planets. Only after 9 billion years was there an earth and a sky above it. You kind of have to have something to stand on to have a sky.
If he did he was wrong. Only the planets of the solar system and other things orbiting the sun do that.
Quran 36:38 �And the sun runs on its orbit, That is
the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing.� This verse has provided information that
the sun has an orbit and circulate together with the type of suns beyond our
solar system. Clearly not. Clearly the Koran was talking from an earth observation point of view and thus was wrong. Also "orbit", I bet he did not use that word.
�Say: � If the mankind and the jinn were together to
produce the like of this Qur�an, they could not produce the like thereof, even
if they helped one another.�� (Qur�an 17:88) You can find similar lines in any ancient creation myth and twist them to fit the modern theory of how the universe formed. Does not make them a decent description of the event though. |
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How come there are no decent universities in Muslim countries and no decent science comes from Islam ?
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asep garut
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The Qur'an is impossible to describe everything in detail, the Qur'an only gives signs of God's power in heavens and earth even in hell and heaven. From there, man with his intellect and science can develop as it is now. ----------- -------------- ------ Edited by asep garut - 31 January 2018 at 12:56am |
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asep garut
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Even though in Islam there is an order to study science, both about the science of religion and other useful science. But the more precedence is the science of religion where it is to prepare for the needs of the hereafter. All Muslims believe that life in this world is only temporary, the real life is the next life (hereafter). That is one of the reasons that Islam is not so curious in demanding the science of the world or backwardness in the world science. For Muslims, the science of salvation in the hereafter should be obtained soonest because all humans do not know when the death come to pick them up. |
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Peace maker
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So you what you wanted to tell me you take a blood clot to develop a embrio what is this now reversed development? |
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Peace maker
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The Quran wasn't and never will be from God it was writen by human hands and tell me why did Uthman burn the other 25 Qurans how did he picked one out of 25 to be the word of God why didn't the first Quran apeared to be the word of God if it it was so perfect? Jesus never predicted anything about any prophet after him and not even mentioned Ahmad in the bible and clerics haven't removed your so called Ahmad from the bible if the late so clerics removed it from the bible then someone must have removed it from the original codex of the bible also, so bring your evidence. |
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