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Abu Loren
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Posted: 06 June 2014 at 3:27am |
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I am a simpleton when it comes to science, however I am now becoming more convinced by the argument for flat earth and geocentric universe.
From a religious point of view this makes sense to me as it comforts me to believe that God Almighty made the Earth for us and the Universe revolves around us (Earth). Imagine if everything we've been taught at school was wrong or even a deliberate lie. If so then we need to re-define our own world. The following verses from the Qur'an spring to mind. Sahih International And it is He who created
the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all [heavenly
bodies] in an orbit are swimming. 21:33
It is not allowable for the sun to reach the moon, nor does the night overtake the day, but each, in an orbit, is swimming. 30:40 Edited by Abu Loren - 06 June 2014 at 3:29am |
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airmano
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You're not alone: Flat_Earth
Airmano BTW: The verse 30:40 you quote is in reality 36:40 Edited by airmano - 06 June 2014 at 9:06am |
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Ron Webb
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Imagine if everything you've been taught in the mosque was wrong or even a deliberate lie. "And the earth, We have made it a wide extent; how well have We then spread (it) out." (51:48) "Until when he reached the place where the sun set, he found it going down into a black sea..." (18:86) For a few thousand dollars you can travel around the world and see for yourself that the earth is a sphere, not "spread out" (i.e. flat); and that there is no "black sea" into which the sun sets. |
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TG12345
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How would a flat earth and a geocentric universe bring comfort to you as a Muslim? How would the two verses you posted support your position? |
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Abu Loren
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Verse 51:48 simply means that the earth is spacious and not flat as per your understanding which is wrong. As for 18:86 it is not literal, I'll let you figure it out. You've just proven that you don't understand a word of the Qur'an. |
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Abu Loren
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Just a personal preference. I'd like to think that the earth is the centre of the universe and that everything else revolves around us. Thus making us and the earth special. As a Christian you must know that for centuries Christians have believed that the earth is flat and the universe revolves around it. I quoted the above two verses from the Qura'n because it tells me that everything else but the earth is swimming meaning moving and the earth is stationary. Edited by Abu Loren - 06 June 2014 at 12:43pm |
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schmikbob
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Wow, Abu Loren, you are not going done this road for real are you? You are speaking metaphorically of course.
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TG12345
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I see. You are stating your personal view though, and not what the Quran teaches. Would that be a correct understanding?
Many not only believed that, but some also killed people for believing differently. I don't believe that those who falsely believed such ideas were non-believers, but those who murdered others for not agreeing certainly were, even if they believed themselves to be followers of Christ.
I just read the two verses. The say that the sun, moon, other things in space move around the earth. I don't see them stating that the earth is stationary. I don't see any verse that says that. |
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