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believer
Guest Group Joined: 08 January 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1397 |
Posted: 26 February 2009 at 5:07am |
Jordan was brought up because of the article titled:
Jordan 'honour killings' cover for other crimes
Men exploit lenient laws to murder for inheritence,settling family feuds or to hiude other crimes
The point is not that "crimes of passion" or "honor killings" do or don't happen in un-islamic countries but that the punishment is too lenient in mostly islamic countries. A crime of passion in the states is punished as another crime- unless of course you are O.J.
Attacking me because I believe men should be punished equally for killing women for any reason!!
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John 3
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believer
Guest Group Joined: 08 January 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1397 |
Posted: 26 February 2009 at 5:11am |
What about the laws for 2009? |
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abuayisha
Senior Member Muslim Joined: 05 October 1999 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 5105 |
Posted: 26 February 2009 at 4:46pm |
Beheading and Religious Profiling Washington Post
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Shasta'sAunt
Senior Member Female Joined: 29 March 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1930 |
Posted: 26 February 2009 at 7:40pm |
"Attacking me because I believe men should be punished equally for killing women for any reason!!"
Is that what you wrote? Because I could have sworn you wrote: "I always hear Muslims say that Islam is the superior religion. Why has Islam not been able to over come honor killings?
Isn't there a verse in the Quran about not carryng the sins of your father? Why would the "sins" of the sister, wife, etc. be counted against you?
Is it because of the subordinate position of women in shariah law? Men hardly recieve a penalty for honor killing in shariah ruled countries."
and: "So why the in the Muslim nation of Jordon is this a law, when in the horrible kuffir nation of USA a murder is a murder whether honor killing or not?"
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"Muslims themselves call it an honor killing to get a shortened sentence, reduced punishment!"
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"The point is not that "crimes of passion" or "honor killings" do or don't happen in un-islamic countries but that the punishment is too lenient in mostly islamic countries." I must have missed the part where you were vocalising equal punishment under the law. Actually in the U.S. most of these killings are tried as manslaughter cases, not first degree murder cases. That was MY whole point. Leniency abounds.....
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believer
Guest Group Joined: 08 January 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1397 |
Posted: 27 February 2009 at 7:22am |
Yes I did ask why isn't it under control in Islamic countries? I found the answer to my question, man has made the penalty unequal and not as severe.
Are those voluntary manslaughter or involuntary manslaughter? Edited by believer - 27 February 2009 at 7:24am |
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believer
Guest Group Joined: 08 January 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1397 |
Posted: 27 February 2009 at 7:28am |
Thank you for that link. "Did Islam make him do it? There are elements in the Islamic tradition that seem to encourage a belief in the inferiority of women. Conservative Islam gives less weight to a woman's legal testimony, gives her a smaller share of any inheritance, and limits her ability to escape an unwanted marriage. How much this strand of Islamic religious thought influenced Muzzammil Hassan's violent behavior is something that the courts and psychological experts have to decide."
I don't believe that Islam causes it but believe sharia may give men too easy of a way out.
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Chrysalis
Senior Member Joined: 25 November 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2033 |
Posted: 27 February 2009 at 8:16am |
Maybe Believer just doesnt know that bieng tried under Murder and Manslaughter are two different things . . . in which Manslaughter has the lesser punishment, and is a lesser crime. . . compared to murder
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"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."
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Shasta'sAunt
Senior Member Female Joined: 29 March 2008 Status: Offline Points: 1930 |
Posted: 28 February 2009 at 3:01pm |
"Did Islam make him do it?"
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