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Peace maker
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Peace Zanoo.
Psalm 110:4 The Lord has sworn and will change His mind:You are priest forever,inthe order of Melchizedek. Hebrews 6:19,20.Wehave this hope as an anchor for the soul,firm and steadfast. It enters the inner sanctuary behind the curtain 20 Wher our forerunner,Jesus, has entered on our behalf.He has become high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek. Hebrews 5:5 So also Christ did not glorify himself in becoming high priest, but the one who glorified him was God, who said to him, “You are my Son! Today I have fathered you,” 6 as also in another place God says, “You are a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek.” 7 During his earthly life Christ offered both requests and supplications, with loud cries and tears, to the one who was able to save him from death and he was heard because of his devotion. John 1:18 18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him. Hebrews 5:10 He is "called of God an high priest after the order of Melchizedek" Acts 4:10 Then let this be known to all of you and the people of Isreal:It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth,whom you cricified but whom God rasied from the dead, that this man stands before you healed. He is the stone the you builders rejected which has become the cornerstone. Salvation exist in no one else,for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved. Psalm 118:22 The stone which was rejected Has become the chief corner stone. What do you want more? Lets get this clear and straight.
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Tim the plumber
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Pascal's wager is not just that though. If I beleive in the fairies it stops me understanding things in this world in a way which will allow me to use the understanding to achieve stuff. It will demand that i give loads of money to the priest of whichever religoin I choose. Nope, I will leave a good life as I see it and am able to live it. That will have to do for any being that is over seeing the whole of this vast universe of uncountable billions of galaxies and 13.8(?) billion years so far. |
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truthnowcome
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Peace unto you. Nice, "alternative" name! Good opinion! try again! It seems like the Messiah pbuh and God Almighty forgot to informed the disciples of that name? ----------------------------------- You sure John was quoting from Isaiah 9: 9-10 or was Ezekiel 31:11, 32: 12 and 32: 21? Check it and see: https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/isa/9/1/t_conc_688006 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/eze/31/1/t_conc_833011 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/eze/32/1/t_conc_834012 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/eze/32/1/t_conc_834021 Br. zainool |
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LET'S SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT ONCE AND FOR ALL...NO MORE LIES!
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asep garut
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Assalaamu’alaikum,
I want to give a straight line here what is meant by Ovibos maybe: 1. All those who refuse to follow the teachings of their Prophets when their Prophets are still alive until they are willing to follow the teachings of their Prophets, so they still have the opportunity to repent. or 2. After the arrival of the Prophet Muhammad while other Prophets have passed away, then the non-Muslims who immediately repent before their spirits been uprooted, then turned the faith into a worship only to one God (Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala) as in Allah's Word. I apologize if what I convey is not clear. Wassalaamu’alaikum. |
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MIAW
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Are you sure about this? If you worship anyone other than Allah SWT, then you are associating other 'gods/partners' to Allah. [5:73-76]
The jews that verses 2:62 and 5:69 are referring to are those who lived (and believed) during Prophet Moses' PBUH time. As soon as Prophet Jesus PBUH arrived on the scene, Everyone had to renounce Judaism and become a Christian. The Christians that verses 2:62 and 5:69 are referring to are those who lived (and believed) during Prophet Jesus' PBUH time. As soon as Prophet Muhammad PBUH arrived on the scene, Everyone had to renounce Christianity and become a Muslim. |
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MIAW
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Muslims don't agree with this. Allah SWT Tells us in the Qur'an: (Explanation of meaning): "If Jesus PBUH was really a divine being (i.e. a 'god' as Christians say), then can he save himself if Allah Decides to destroy him?" [5:17]
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asep garut
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Peace maker,
You say “After all only Jesus the Messiah can save you, no matter how hard and how long you prostrate to God.” In the view of Islam, Jesus is a born man, it is just like us, but the difference is that Jesus was born without a father while we were born there are father and mother. Muslims have a principle that God is not born, or given birth even God has no children. Muslim prostrate worship only to God who has created all humans including who created Jesus. All of that goes back to the way of our respective views, whether God who we worship is the same as man or not. Therefore, according to Islam that what can save us is only Allah who is not born, or given birth, even has no children. |
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Peace maker
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Peace Zanoo. “And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron…“Now comes” SALVATION and strength, and THE KINGDOM OF OUR GOD…” (Rev. 12:5-10) The angel Gabriel reassured Mary about giving birth to Jesus and he prophesied that He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David. He reign over the House of Jacob forever His Kingdome will never end (Luke 1:32) God is called the Most High God throughout the Bible. The Hebrew word ‘Elyon is translated as Most High, and ’El ‘elyon and ’Elohim ‘elyon are Most High God. Son of the Most High God is a natural alternative name of Jesus (Yeshua‘), the Son of God. The interesting thing about this name is that it was spoken by a demonized man. The man possessed by a legion of demons reacted when Jesus arrived on his side of the lake of Galilee. Seeing Jesus, he cried out and fell before Him, and said in a loud voice, “What business do we have with each other, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg You, do not torment me.” (Luke 8:28) John’s second quote from the prophet is from Isaiah 6:9-10, when Isaiah saw the glory (or greatness) of God. The prophet Isaiah knew that one day God would send the Messiah, His Son, to live a perfect life among His people and to save them from their sins (Isaiah 7:14, 9:6-7, 53:4-6). He had a preview of the same glory of Christ that the apostles later witnessed and described (Matthew 17:1-8; John 1:14). When Gabriel told Mary that Jesus would be great, he meant that Jesus would manifest the very glory of God. When Jesus came to earth as an infant, He came with the proper credentials to rule. He offered His kingdom to His people, but they spurned it and rejected and executed Him. However, Christ will return in glory and with omnipotence to establish His kingdom (Revelation 19:1-21:8). After all only Jesus the Messiah can save you, no matter how hard and how long you prostrate to God.
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