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bebeeells1 ![]() Starter. ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 August 2016 Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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I thought I would post this as an example of a Humanist funeral reading;
How do We Let A Mother Go How do we let a mother go? How do we say "I'm ready now to go on without you"? How can we ever have a clue of what that really means? And of a sudden the moment is upon us, and there's no turning back. And then we know what grief is,... and guilt and love and things undone. Try to prepare and we will fail in some way, be it subtle or looming.... But there is peace too. peace and acceptance and overwhelming love that we maybe weren't aware of. waves and waves of conflicting emotion, And laughter too, and memories we hadn't bothered lately to recall come flooding back in shared company.. and it's all about you mum... And there's gratitude.. so much of that, that we had you, such a wonderful mother...Bright and shining, nobody's fool, independent, but humble too; Smart, and kind, and fun. Adventurous.. A part of you has passed away, but much is carried everyday within us, and will as long as we are here. This may be a final tribute, A day to celebrate your life and say goodbyes; But it's not final. Every day I'll celebrate in some way, just by the virtue of how you shaped my life, The absolute and incredible fortune that I knew you. As a mother, a friend and a woman. csgo4sale.com |
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airmano ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 March 2014 Status: Offline Points: 884 |
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So it is the creator that built the Guinea worm including the mechanism of eating his way through living people. Nice job, thanks creator! Airmano Edited by airmano - 20 July 2016 at 1:22pm |
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The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses (Albert Einstein 1954, in his "Gods Letter")
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That is sort of the point Saint, anyone referring to such a nebulous concept as a real thing would need to a) define it carefully and b) provide evendence. Words like "soul" which have no agreed upon meaning nor tests for existence are very difficult to discuss intelligently. (Also, I'll look up the "old Qur'an" info for you as soon as I have time but you should be able to find it yourself if you are seriously interested.) A search like "oldest surviving Quran" might be enough. |
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I need actual evidence for the existance of this soul thing not evidence of somebody talking about it.
What kind/shape of evidence would that be? I have talked about it when I'm being a bit dramatic. It does not mean that it is a real thing. I do not know wen you are being dramatic or when you are being serious but you need to spell out what will convince you. If I can get it, I will. |
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Caringheart ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 March 2012 Status: Offline Points: 2991 |
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Greetings airmano, I do not understand the question. The same thing guides the guinea worm as guides the behavior of all creatures... whatever mechanism the Creator built into the creature. asalaam and blessings, Caringheart |
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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
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Greetings Ringer, Without any evidence? Is it not evident that humans are given a greater mental capacity than other creatures? Are you saying that you believe that one day dogs may talk? What about apes, monkeys, cats? Will they all evolve to one day have the same skill set that humans have?
Scientific knowledge? Science is just as much a religion... and a belief system, as anything else. You think that science 'proves' realities? Science is all about interpretation. We define our own realities through 'science'. There still has to be a Creator that made the laws of physics, the laws of gravity, Newton's law, quantum mechanics, etc. I'd like to share something I wrote the other day: Beyond the Veil So what about 'those who place their scientific beliefs in opposition to ancient knowledge'? asalaam and blessings to you, Caringheart
One of the actual differences between humans and animals is that we can more easily thwart our natural instincts and built in tendencies. This is both our great boon and advantage, while also being on occasion our burden. We're smart, and sometimes smart enough to do extremely st**id things.
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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
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@ Caringheart:
Don't chicken out, I'm still waiting for the answer to my question: "What guides the Guinea Worm ?" Airmano |
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The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses (Albert Einstein 1954, in his "Gods Letter")
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Do a simple exercise: Google a picture of a human skeleton and google for the skeleton of a Chimpanzee or a Bonobo. Compare ! What do you see ? ----------------------------------------------------
It's like saying: Einstein is wrong because his theory of relativity does not explain Magnetism. Ah, BTW. since you seem to know a lot about this subject: Is a virus dead or alive ? Why ? ------------------------------------------------------
"...if numerous gradations from a simple and imperfect eye to one complex and perfect can be shown to exist, each grade being useful to its possessor, as is certainly the case; if further, the eye ever varies and the variations be inherited, as is likewise certainly the case and if such variations should be useful to any animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, should not be considered as subversive of the theory." Why don't you mention this part of his statement ? It also clearly shows that Darwin was very critical even to his own theory. This is what makes a good scientist. But again, it also shows your unwillingness to even look for information (is it really so difficult to type "eye + evolution" and then hit return ?), Today we know much more than Darwin could know about this subject. Last not least: The human eye is actually rather badly constructed (Thanks Creator !) compared to the one of other species (Blood vessels in front(!) of the retina, wow !). That we didn't get all eaten by roaming predators is only because our brain reconstructs a decent image. ------------------------------------------------------
I did reply to your question about "nothing from nothing" but you either didn't read it or you didn't understand it or you ignored it. None of the three is a good sign. -----------------------------------------------------
Still stuck with the Watchmakers analogy ? Jesus, This has been rebutted already more than a 100 years ago. Airmano Edited by airmano - 17 June 2016 at 12:41am |
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The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses (Albert Einstein 1954, in his "Gods Letter")
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