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Originally posted by Lachi Lachi wrote:

Al Saadiqeen21, if the King James Version contains 50,000 errors and mistranslates the New Testament, why do you quote from it? Any argument you make from it against Christian interpretation is weakened by using a source you are admitting is massively faulty. Modern scholars and translators have provided a more accurate translation of the New Testament.
 
 
Duhhhh for the same reason 90% of the Christian world use the King James Version . Anyway you will hear some Christians say  That's not what it says in My By-bill / Bible ,  And thats because they know they're many version of the Bible, Written by these so-called Religious Scholar / Theologian Etc etc .
 
Also 90% of your so-called Christian can't Read / Write , speak the language their scriptures were written in . But yet they accept / believe in their By-bill how sad is that .
One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .

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Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:

Originally posted by iec786 iec786 wrote:

Greetings Caringheart,

Nice try but even you know the difference of a verbal revelation to a written one don't you.I would like you to put a signature to a verbal massage.You better try harder my dear.

peace Ismail

Greetings Ismail,

Would you deny the witness testimony of Mary, mother of Jesus?

Muhammad has only his own testimony as the the origin of the Qur'an.

asalaam,
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Caringheart, you need to ask the question in full not half way. The question should be: "Would you deny the witness testimony of Mary, mother of Jesus which was mentioned in the Greek translation of the Holy Collection of Books?"

Mary testimony was from a Greek translation with interpolation do you believe in a translation of a book written with "interpolation" as the word of God?

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Al Saadiqeen21, if the King James Version contains 50,000 errors and mistranslates the New Testament, why do you quote from it? Any argument you make from it against Christian interpretation is weakened by using a source you are admitting is massively faulty. Modern scholars and translators have provided a more accurate translation of the New Testament.
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Hi Caringheart,

depends on which witness you talking about???

Quote Muhammad has only his own testimony as the the origin of the Qur'an.


Al-Amien the truthful that was one of his titles to the before the advent of Islam to all Christians,Jews,pagans and nobody disputed the fact.Be that as it may,The Quran has given us an acid test.

Yusuf Ali
Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy.Sura 4:82

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Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:


Originally posted by iec786 iec786 wrote:

Greetings Caringheart,

Nice try [IMG]smileys/smiley32.gif" align="middle" /> but even you know the difference of a verbal revelation to a written one don't you.I would like you to put a signature to a verbal massage.You better try harder my dear.

peace Ismail
Greetings Ismail,Would you deny the witness testimony of Mary, mother of Jesus?Muhammad has only his own testimony as the the origin of the Qur'an.asalaam,Caringheart



Hi Caringheart,

depends on which witness you talking about???

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Originally posted by iec786 iec786 wrote:

Greetings Caringheart,

Nice try but even you know the difference of a verbal revelation to a written one don't you.I would like you to put a signature to a verbal massage.You better try harder my dear.

peace Ismail

Greetings Ismail,

Would you deny the witness testimony of Mary, mother of Jesus?

Muhammad has only his own testimony as the the origin of the Qur'an.

asalaam,
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The use of the word Easter in this quote is a mistranslation . According to the so-called Biblical authorities , there are approximately 50,000 errors in the King James Version of the Bible . They also state that , today most of these errors have been corrected by modern translators who took it upon themselves to add things . Not , according to studies done by these so-called authorities , there are even some passages that were not included in the original Greek and Latin translation of the New Testament . One point in question was whether or not the Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam actually told his accusers of the harlot , 'He that is without sin among you . let him cast a stone at her .

 
Many Christians base their teaching around the Stories of the Acts ( Actions of The Apostles ) thinking that it was a divinely Inspired Book . In reality this book was based on hearsay and was a Hadith , stories , tales , words of men ) . Luke , a Greek physician and a disciples of Paul ( Saul , 13th self - appointed Apostle ) was in no way related to any of the Twelve Disciples . This Hadith was ascribed to Luke , but both Luke and Paul really wrote it . Since Paul closely oversaw the writings of the Stories of the Acts he was really the author . When Luke referred to ''We '' in his works , it proves he was talking about Paul and himself . The Stories of the Acts ( Actions of the Apostles ) is supposed to provide the life story of Paul ( Saul , 13th self - appointed Apostle ).
 
Many Christians are confused why I say the books of the New Testament are tampered with and still use them , I must stress again that I don't disregard all Ahaadith , There are some good in them , and can be used if they can be confirm by the Scriptures . They are not the words of Allah , so , I repeat do not mix them up with the words of Allah !!!
 
The Stories Of The Acts ( Actions Of The Apostles By Luke 20;6  [ Recorded 61 A.D. ] , Where It States , And I Quote ; And We Sailed Away From Philippi After The Days Of Unleavend Bread , And Came Unto Them To Troas In Five Days Where We Abode Seven Days . < King James Version ( Arabic ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Luke never claimed to be a Disciple , but relates events before his appearance on the scene as he heard them from Paul ( Saul , 13th self - appointed Apostle ).
and from other accounts . It is the Christian church who portrays him as a Disciple . So Christians base their whole life on men who did not know the Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) . The only true book of the New Testament are the Book of Revelation , and the Book of the Prophet John .
 
For many years you have been led to believe that Easter means the Resurrection of the Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) . It is not ; this holiday has nothing to do with the Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) and the first Christians spelling of the name of the ancient Assyrian and Babylonian goddess Ishtar . The Phoenician name of this goddess was Astarte , wife of Baal , the Sun God , whose worship is denounced by Allah as the most abominable of all pagan idolatry .
 
The Book of Judges [ Recorded 1100 B.C.E.] 10 ; 11- 13 , Where It States , And I Quote ; And The Sustainer Said Unto The Children Of Israel , Did Not I Deliver You From The Egyptians , And From The Amorites , From  The Children Of Ammon . And From The Philistines ? The Zidonians Also . And The Amalekites , And The Maonites , Did Oppress You ; And Ye Cried To Me , And I Delivered You Out Of Their Hand . Yet Ye Have Forsaken Me . And Served Other Allah's Wherefore I Will Deliver You No More . < King James Version ( Arabic ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Astarte - the Semetic Goddess of Love and fertility is the same as the Babylonian Ishtar , identified by the Greek , with Aphrodite and as the moon Goddess with Selene and Artemis , In the Torah ( 5 Books of the Prophet / Apostle Moses ) she is called Ashtaroth .
 
 The Book of Judges [ Recorded 1100 B.C.E.] 10 ; 12- 13 , Where It States , And I Quote ; And They Forsook The Sustainer Allah Of Their Fathers , Which Brought Them Out Of The Land Of Egypt , And Followed Other Deities Of The Deities Of The People That Were Round About Them . And Bowed Themselves Unto Them . And Provoked The Sustainer To Anger . And They Forsook The Sustainer. And Served Baal And Ashtaroth . < King James Version ( Arabic ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
Baal - Baal was the supreme male divinity . He was known as the Universal God of fertility and his title was '' Prince '' or ''Lord '' of the Earth or '' Lord '' of the Rain and Dew .
 
According to the Suhuf of the Prophet / Apostle Abraham , called ''The Book of Generation '' ( Kitaabul Milaad ) revealed in the year 1958 B.C.E. the Prophet / Apostle Enoch had a very close friend who was always with him and admired him very much . His name was Shaikh . Shaikh never seprated from the Prophet Enoch / Apostle after the  Prophet / Apostle Enoch translated into heaven , Shaikh was so passionately affected by this separation , that he never ceased to cry . His countenance dropped which invoked the presence of Azaazil ( the Devil )
. Azaazil ( the Devil ) inquired about the cause of his misfortune and Shaikh informed him . After hearing that , Azaazil ( also called Iblis , The Devil ) though , '' if it would please you , I will make for you a state in the similitude of the person for whom you yearn , and by associating this statue with the Noble individual , you will become peaceful again .
 
 Azaazil ( the Deceitful one ) constructed the statue constructed the statue which was the idol Baal . This tall statue looked like a slender man and , at first sight , the structure strongly resembled the Prophet / Apostle Enoch, son of Jared . Shaikh hid the statue on his dwelling place so that no one could see it . Every morning and evening Shaikh visited it in order to blot out the pain of losing his friend the  Prophet / Apostle Enoch. Shaikh died of a broken heart ,
 
The Prophet / Apostle Enoch, son of Jared ( 3404 - 3039 B.C.E ) , He never experienced A Physical Death , But was translated Body And Soul Into Heaven When he was 356 Years Old ( Genesis 5 ; 23-34 , Hebrew 11 ; 5 ) . Click here: Genesis 5 :: Arabic/English Online Bible
 
The people who had not seen Shaikh for several days , entered his dwelling place and found Him Dead In Front Of The Statue .  Azaazil convinced the people  The Prophet / Apostle Enoch, son of Jared derived his blessing from the worship of idols . The people believed that The Prophet / Apostle Enoch son of Jared and Shaikh prayed to the idol Baal and Azaazil ( the Deceitful one ) answered them Azazil convinced them the powers the Prophet / Apostle Enoch, son of Jared and Shaikh had which caused the rain to fall , the crops to grow , heal the sick , all came from them worshipping the statue . So all the people started worshipping idols .
 
The ancient Gods of the pagans had many different names , While the Goddess was called Astarte by the Phoenicians , it appears on Assyrian monuments , found in excavation at Nineveh as '' Ishtar'' Astarte is the same as Ishtar and they are both pronounced as ''Easter'' .
 
According to the New Webster's Library of Universal Knowledge , Easter is defined as ; Easter from Anglo -saxon Eastre . Eostre; old high German Ostara a Goddess of light or spring in honor of whom a festival was celebrated in April , whence the month was called '' Eastermonath '' , connected with Easter .
 
April - the Arabic word for April is ABRIL , April is the month when Christians usually celebrate Easter , It was the second month in an early Roman Calendar , but became the fourth month when Julius Caesar established the Julian Calendar in 46 B.C.
 
As previously stated , when pagans were converted to Christianity they retained some of the customs of their former life and Christianized them . This is what took place with the pagan Anglo-Saxons who used to celebrate a festival of their Goddess of Spring by the name of Eostre .
 
Anglo-Saxons were the Germanic tribes ( Angeles , Saxons and Jutes ) who inhabited and ruled England during the Fifth and Sixth Centuries . They are responsible for leaving their mark on the English language in its grammar and in thousands of words including some of the English words in use today . Anglo was the name given to the English speaking Caucasians . The word England was taken from the old English words Engla and Land , which means Land of the Angles .
 
Many Biblical authorities have stated that the Stories of the Acts was not included in some of the old Biblical manuscripts such as ; the Sinaitic manuscript , the Vatican MS No . 1209 and Sinaitic Syretic codes , These documents date back to the 4th century . So-called scholars then changed heir minds two centuries later and said these '' Missing '' quotes turned up in the Codex Bezae , the Latin Vulgate and the Jerusalem Syretic version .
 
The English translations of the Bible are translated from the Greek ; the Greek is translated from the Hebrew , the Hebrew , from the Aramic and the Aramaic from the Arabic ; called Syretic ( Ancient Arabic ) . Arabic is the first original language ; the language , in which the Scriptures were first revealed to the Prophets . In order for you to see that the original word used in this hadith was Passover  and not Easter , here is the Hadith of the book of Acts 12 ; 4 in original language , Arabic .
 
The Stories Of The Acts ( Actions Of The Apostles ) 12;4 , [ Recorded 61 A.D. ]
, Where It States , And I Quote ; And When He Grabbed ( Seized Him ) A Muslim And Put Him In The Prison ( Gave ) He Alone ( Was Delivered ) To Four Of A Fourth From The Military To Guard Him ; Intending After The Passover ( The Dawn ) , To Present Him Before The Tribe . < King James Version ( Arabic ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
To Be Con - Tin - ue In Next Post .
 
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Originally posted by Al Saadiqeen21 Al Saadiqeen21 wrote:

[QUOTE=iec786]Watch the video and let us talk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHF5evfPwmc[/QUOTE]
 
I don't really get into Looking at Youtube reading Website  because they're only created for certain School-of Thought's , And they all say something diffrent as if the Creator couldn't makeup his own mind
 
Easter, Its Origin And Meaning .
 
Easter, like many other pagan holidays that are Celebrated by Christians , found its origin in the Babylonian Empire ruled by Nimrod . The word ''Babylon'' is derived from the Greek word 'Babel '' , meaning ; confusion , chaos , vanity , and emptiness or nothingness . Babylon was the first major civilization founded by Nimrod and his followers . Today , New York City is the capitol of the New Babylonian Empire , Nimrod 2311- 1941 B.C.E. was the son of Cush , the son of Ham , who was the son of the Apostle Noah , and was regarded by many as a Master Hunter . The Apostle Noah ( 2970 -2020 B.C.E. ) , Ham -Son of Noah ( 2470 - 1934 B.C.E . ) , Cush -Son of Ham ( 2368 -2066 B.C.E. )
 
The Torah ( 5 Books of The Prophet / Apostle Moses Genesis 10 ; 8-10 [ Revealed 1512 B.C.E. In The Wilderness ] , Where It States , And I Quote , And Cush Begat Nimrod He Began To Be A Mighty One In The Earth . He Was A Mighty Hunter Before The Sustainer ; Wherefore It Is Said , Even As Nimrod The Mighty Hunter Before The Sustainer And The Beginning Of His Kingdom Was Babel , And Erech , And Accad , And Calneh , In The Land Of Shinar  < King James Version ( Arabic ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
In Hebrew , a dialect of Arabic , '' Nimrod '' means '' we will rebel or let us rebel '' from the Hebrew word Marad . In Arabic Nimrod , The same root letters as found in Marad . Nimrod was in complete opposition to the Laws and Commandments of Allah . The system of his opposition was to control the Amorite ( mountain dwellers cursed with leprosy ) so as to have them believe that Nimrod was the Creator and be worshipped as such . ''Nimrod's name is interpreted as ; '' he who made all people rebellious against Allah .
 
At first , Nimrod giverned his subject with justice and rectitude until Satan ( in the form of Merlin the Magician ) , the unequaled champion in the art of seduction , inspired him ( Nimrod ) with diabolical suggestions of haughtiness and tyranny . It was then that Nimrod overstepped the dignity of a king , and claimed himself to be the partner of Allah and eventually Allah Himself .
 
Nimrod was so overbearing , it is said that he married his own mother , whose name was Semiramis . Semiramis became the Babylonian ''Queen of Heaven '' , Through the generations , in this idolatrous worship , Nimrod also became the False Messiah , the son of Baal , the Sun God . In his false Babylonian systems , the mother and child ( Semiramis and Nimrod ) became object of worship . The worship of mother and child spread over the world , the names varting in different countries and languages , for example ; in Egypt it was Isis ( mother ) and Horas ( child ) . Even in Greece , China , Japan and Tibet , there is a counterpart of the Madonna , made up long before the birth of the Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh )
 
1 . China - ( Shin Moo - Holy Mother ) .
2 . Egypt - ( Isia -Goddess and Horus , child )
3 . Ephesus - ( Dina , Mother of Gods .
4 . Greece ( Aphrodite - Goddess )
5 . Israel ( Ashtaroth , Goddess , and Baal , child ) .
6 . Rome ( Venus , Goddess , and Juputer , child ) .
7 . Scandanavia ( Disa ) .
8 . Ancient Germans ( Hertha ) .
9 . Etruscans ( Nutria ).
10 . Druids ( Virgo - Patitura ).
11 . India ( Indrani ) .
12 . Asia ( Cybele and son Deoius ) .
13 . The Hindu Belief in the Trinity ( which is three gods ) that are supreme over the demi gods such as Vishnu , Brama , Shiva , ( thegod of destruction ) .
 
It was during the fourth (4th ) and fifth (5th ) centuries that the pagans of Wester Europe were accepting the newly popular Christianity by the hundreds and thousands . They did not hesitate to carry their old customs and traditions along with them , so along came the Trinity , Christmas , Easter and many other pagan practices that people today attribute to the Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ , Nowadays , the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church is symbolic of Nimrod . Once they became Christians and started to Celebrate this Feast , which comes in the spring , they kept the old name of their spring goddess and the feast became know as Easter .
 
The word Easter and the German word ''Ostern'' come from a common origin ( Eoster , Easter , Ostara , Oster ) , which , to the Norseman , meant '' the season of the rising ( growing ) Sun , the seasons of New Birth''. The word was used to designate the feast of new life in the Spring . The same root is found in the name for the place where the sun rises ( East , ost ) , The word ''Easter '' then originally meant the celebration of the Spring Sun which has its origin in East and brought New life upon the Earth . This symbolism was then transferree during the Christian era to the meaning of the ''Easter '' you all know today , which is supposed to represent the New Life of the Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) or , what the Christians call, his Resurrection .
 
Was the  Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam ( Pbuh ) Resurrected , No . The most avid advocators of the ( So-called ) Resurrection are the Christians .
 
Lets take a look at the word; Resurrection - to resurrect means to have Die  and come Back to Life in a spiritual sense from out of the Grave , A Resurgence . This Raising Will Only Take Place On The Last Day .
 
The American Heritage Dictionary defines Resurrection as ;
1 . A rising from the dead or returning to life .
2 . The state of those who have returned to life .
3 . A returning to practice , notice , or use , rebirth .
4 . The rising again of Christ on the third day after the crucifixion .
5 . The rising again of the dead at the last Judgement .
 
From Hans Wehr Arabic Dictionary ;
Al Qiyaama - Resurrection , Turmoil ; Upheaval
Qiyaam - Rising , getting up , standing
Qawiym -Straight , upright , erect .
Qiwaam - Upright , straight , erect .
 
Thus , the Resurrection is the spiritual return on the Last Day . also known as Yawmul Qiyaamah the Day of Standing Since the Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus did not die a death by crucifixion  , there is no reason to believe he resurrected , In actuality , the Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam (Pbuh ) lived to be the ripe old age of 120 years thought  the Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam (Pbuh ) is not present with us physically , he is not dead . He is with Allah awaiting his return ,
 
The Qur'aan tells us not to say that those who die in the path of Allah are dead . Instead their soul is with Allah ( The Holy Qur'aan 3 ; 169 , 8 ; 24 ) . Click here: Surat 'Ali `Imran - The Noble Qur'an
 
Everybody is going to bear witness to the  Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam (Pbuh ) coming . He will return as the final and seal of the Apostles ( Messengers ) and is going to stop the lies and the spreading of Christianity in which they make up things and say that they believe in him , but they lie .
 
Originally , Easter was called The Feast of Feasts , Sunday Pasch by many nations in different tongues such as ; Greeks , Rumanians , ( Pascha ) , Italians ( Paqual ) , Spaniards and Portuguese ( Pascua) , Frenchs ( Pasqua ) Norwegians ( Paskir ) , Danes ( Paaske ) , Gaels ( Casc ) , The festival of which you read about in the Scriptures of Allah during the time of the Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus son of Maryam was quote a different festival from the one that is now observed in the Romish ( and Protestant ) Church , and at that time it was not known nu any such name as Easter . It was called Pascha , or the Passover . That festival originally agree with the Israelite's Passover and was not idolatrous .
 
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Easter A Mistranslation ---- There is no command or example in the Scriptures  to justify the celebration of Easter , although I am sure that many of you will point out in the book of Acts 12 ; 4 of the King James Version of the Bible where translators have purposely removed the word '' Passover '' and relaced it with Easter .
 
The Stories Of The Acts ( Actions Of The Apostles By Luke 12 ; 4 [ Recorded 61 A.D. ] , Where It States , And I Quote ; '' And When He Had Apprehended Him . He Put Him In Prison , And Delivered Him To Four Quaternions Of Soldiers To Keep Him ; Intending After Easter To Bring Him Forth To The People . < King James Version ( Arabic ) Keyword Study Bible >
 
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