Why did Allah choose to have a son? - Event Date: 28 December 2011

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   Friendship,

   I have no idea of what the "Elton case" is and how it "disproved the idea of Allah having a son." I don't need any lessons in reading the Holy Bible and I have seen no evidence in the Holy Bible for the reality of "Muhammad" as a prophet of God, or even being mentioned as such. 

   The prophet Isaiah was very clear in his chapter 53 of what the Messiah would be like when He came the first time, and what he would do for all the people of the earth.

   The Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ, tells of what will happen when Jesus Christ comes for a second time to judge the good and the wicked. In Christianity Jesus Christ is portrayed as the "Lamb of God" who, John sees in heaven as having looked, "as though it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out unto all the world." John, the writer of Revelation, said that he heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come..." 

   My Holy Bible is a comfort to me as the Holy Qur'an is a comfort to you. I would never tell a Muslim that their religion is wrong any more than I would expect a Muslim to tell me that my religion is wrong or in error. 

   The prophet Muhammad recites that God says "let there be no compulsion in religion, the truth stands out clear from error." 

   I agree 100%

Larry  

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Larry Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Male Joined: 16 April 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 632	Post Options Post Reply Quote Larry Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 January 2011 at 9:30pm
	Friendship, I have no idea of what the "Elton case" is and how it "disproved the idea of Allah having a son." I don't need any lessons in reading the Holy Bible and I have seen no evidence in the Holy Bible for the reality of "Muhammad" as a prophet of God, or even being mentioned as such. The prophet Isaiah was very clear in his chapter 53 of what the Messiah would be like when He came the first time, and what he would do for all the people of the earth. The Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ, tells of what will happen when Jesus Christ comes for a second time to judge the good and the wicked. In Christianity Jesus Christ is portrayed as the "Lamb of God" who, John sees in heaven as having looked, "as though it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out unto all the world." John, the writer of Revelation, said that he heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come..." My Holy Bible is a comfort to me as the Holy Qur'an is a comfort to you. I would never tell a Muslim that their religion is wrong any more than I would expect a Muslim to tell me that my religion is wrong or in error. The prophet Muhammad recites that God says "let there be no compulsion in religion, the truth stands out clear from error." I agree 100% Larry

Friendship Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 24 August 2008 Status: Offline Points: 884	Post Options Post Reply Quote Friendship Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 January 2011 at 4:49am
	Assalamu alaika Larry. The issue is not only what Allah informed the holy Apostle Muhammad, but what he informed all the Apostles before Jesus. Muhammad is sent as an arbitrator between those who rejected their Apostles and those who accepted them. As a said earlier the teachers of the earlier scriptures did not set any standard in understanding what Allah revealed. The texts and contents of what transpired in the last days are not convincing statements of Jesus the son of Maryam. The Elton case further disapproved and disproved the idea of Allah having a son. In the standards in understanding the teachings of Muhammad is: Lazim (obligation) is tied to malzum (obligated). Desire to have a son or a child is intrinsic in animals. Please understand and study carefully in the Book of Genesis why allah created Eve. The Old Testament is a starter in understanding what Allah revealed to Muhammad.

Larry Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Male Joined: 16 April 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 632	Post Options Post Reply Quote Larry Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 January 2011 at 12:40am
	Using Qur'an verses to verify that Allah had no son is like using the New Testament to verify that God did indeed have a son, Jesus Christ. It is a matter of faith and belief. You cannot expect Christians to agree with what the Qur'an says anymore than you can expect Muslims to agree with the Bible says concerning Jesus.

Matt Browne Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Male Joined: 19 April 2010 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 937	Post Options Post Reply Quote Matt Browne Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 December 2010 at 9:00am
	Same reason Jesus was male. Societies were not ready for a female prophet. Today it's different.
	A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt

pure_columbian Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Male Joined: 31 December 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 74	Post Options Post Reply Quote pure_columbian Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 December 2010 at 6:19am
	My first time on here and i have to say i'm totally confused as to what the purpose of this thread is, it makes no sense whatsoever, or is there more to come???

Friendship Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 24 August 2008 Status: Offline Points: 884	Post Options Post Reply Quote Friendship Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 December 2010 at 1:36am
	Assalamu alaika Sign*Reader. I think I should better wait for a while to see the response of the forum members. It is a matter of how one is taught to understand his Faith. My teacher Muhammad Rasulullah taught me the method of separation. Some forum members rejects its application in understanding the OT and NT. Edited by Friendship - 31 December 2010 at 1:37am

Sign*Reader Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 02 November 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3352	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sign*Reader Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 December 2010 at 12:00am
	I am itching to say something about this but let's wait, Friendship may want to add more! Edited by Sign*Reader - 31 December 2010 at 5:24pm
	Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.

abuayisha Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Muslim Joined: 05 October 1999 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 5105	Post Options Post Reply Quote abuayisha Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 December 2010 at 9:17pm
	Yeah