"There was one only good, namely, knowledge; and one only evil, namely, ignorance." - Socrates
This must be the Age of Ignorance. An age whereby the impoverished and the wealthy, the illiterate and the educated, the faithful and the faithless, the weak and the powerful, the east and the west share a common trait, a common cause, a common lie - ignorant perversion of faith, of morality, and truth. An "Age" where lies, greed, murder, and abuse of humanity are justified, even glorified, in the name of the Almighty.
From so called "Conservative Compassion" to "Misused Jihad", the end result is wanton murder and destruction of those unwilling to submit to the "truth of the folly and ignorant" of those delivering "smart bombs" or "car bombs." The wicked indifference to life and truth, the intellectual disconnect from knowledge and reality, and the immoral ignorance of their own faiths, are the evil triad of the leaders of today.
There are some who claim Islam as their faith. They perform their daily prayers in peaceful congregation with their fellow Muslims, hearing the compassionate and merciful teachings of God and His Holy Prophet, Muhammad, peace be upon him, only to leave the mosques and return with guns or car bombs to kill the same Muslims they just prayed with, shoulder to shoulder, glorifying God and facing the Holy City of Makkah. These people who have professed to submit to the will of God have launched a killing spree that does not differentiate between civilians and combatants, Muslims or Non-Muslims.
No Muslim today who worships God and understands the Holy Quran can accept this murderous perversion of our faith and not condemn it publicly and repeatedly from every minaret, microphone, school, radio, television, or government office from Washington D.C. to Jakarta. Muslim voices must cry out in unison against those who take the lives of the innocent, lives created by God who breathed of His spirit into each human soul. All of humanity, east and west, north and south, should be consistent in condemning terrorism whether committed by governments, or by individual groups.
I share the anger and frustration, against people that demean Islam in words, weather they are Islamophobes or people who demean Islam in action after they have profess to submit to the will of God.
The Talibans of the west want to make America exclusively a "Zionist-Christian" nation and marginalize Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Mormons, and every other faith that does not conform to their thinking. It does not matter to them if they alienate the rest of the world with their unilateral war on the innocent and unconditional support of atrocities committed by Israel.
In due time the American people will come to understand the folly of such distortion of the founding principals of this nation. However, we as Muslims must never, ever, commit their brand of evil upon innocent civilians who've caused us no harm. Our Holy Quran is replete with admonitions to Muslims to be just, deal fairly, even with unbelievers, be patient and compassionate even in adversity, to be humble always, to be charitable to the weak, and live in peace with all who do not seek to harm or oppress Muslims or commit injustice.
Yes, Muslims around the world have a duty and legitimate claim to oppose and fight the unjustified political and military oppression of Muslims by any nation, but the fight must be against those who are combatants, not civilians. Even in war, the Prophet forbade Muslims from harming civilians, destroying buildings, killing animals, and uprooting plants and trees.
There is no greater theological misrepresentation of Islam and an outrageous oxymoron than the term "Muslim terrorist." The killing of innocent civilians in anywhere must be condemned forcibly, and if known to be committed by people who profess to be Muslims must be stopped primarily by Muslims themselves. They are sinners against God, hijackers of a peaceful faith, and harmful to the general interests of Islam.
Let's begin with a firm understanding and love of our faith. Let us enlighten our minds and hearts and hold on firmly to the Glorious Quran. Let us begin with an individual change and commitment to Islam, then hasten a change within our family, our neighbors, our community, then our nations; then and only then will we be assured of victory from God against those who spread corruption. But first we must clean our own house of despot, squandering rulers and hypocritical, extremists who claim to be the vanguards of Islam.
The Holy Prophet enjoins upon ALL Muslims to do good and prevent evil, even if its against one's family.
"Anybody amongst you who sees evil should correct it with his own hands. If unable to do so, he should correct it with his speech. If he is unable even to do that, he should at least consider it as such in his heart, for this is the weakest degree of faith."
Are you doing good and preventing evil? Are you taking part in the betterment of society and the world? Are you donating your time and money for the good of your community and humanity? Are you feeding the poor, sponsoring the orphans? Are you reaching out to others to inform them in actions and words the values of Islam? Are you condemning Muslims when they perform evil acts? Are you preparing for tomorrow? If you are, may God bless you, if you're not, may God have mercy on us all.
The individual action of everyone of us effects us collectively. God willing if we all do our part in promoting good and preventing the bad, we can fulfill the Quranic directive - "You are indeed the best community that has ever been brought forth for the good of humankind; you enjoin the doing of what is right and forbid the doing of what is wrong, and you believe in God." (Quran 3:110)
I was waiting for the rest of your response but let me just respond to what you have posted. Please notice that I said people who call themselves Muslim who fly planes into buildings. My intent was to imply that these people, instead of proving their faith, are actually putting their faith in question by the performance of these acts of terror. I have tried very carefully in all of my posts not to make the sweeping statements of indictment that you accused me of. Neither was I trying to throw guilt at the Muslim community in general. All I want to do is get the posters of this site to think carefully before they spew hate at the US.
One of the inconsistencies I see in this website is that many posters do not seem to be able to differentiate between a political statement and a religious statement. Even you, Peter, who I see as a reasonable person, jumped to the same conclusion. When I say I am against terrorists, I get attacked for saying I am against Islam. Whenever the US does something that they think might be politically, economically or militarily advantageous to Americans (Why is it that the US is the only country in the world that can't act in its own interest?) it may hurt or it may benefit a country that is predominantly Muslim. If it happens to hurt then we are Crusaders trying to wipe out Islam while if it benefits then we never are thanked but are criticized for not doing more and our actions are attributed to all kinds of ulterior motives. Is it against Islam to say something nice about the US?
I appreciate your attendance here in the spirit of mutual understanding. I can fully understand your desire to defend our country in the face of what you perceive to be unjust statements against it.
That said, I hope you will read my email and give it some serious thought: first of all, I really have to say I take exception to your statement about Muslims flying planes into buildings. It's not right to lump us all together in one group and try to lay a collective guilt trip on us.
To further illustrate this point, Do you know what happened in Srebnica? Probably not. Well, 8,000 Muslim men and boys were slaughtered by the Serbs as part of their 'ethnic cleansing' program. What is more, the Serbs made death camps and raped so many women that the UN has now officially made rape a war crime (!). Don't think this conflict has a religious dimension to it? Think again. Ever heard of Arkan? Probably not, well, he was a thug of the Milosevic regime who went murdering and etc with his military unit and wherever he went, he held up three fingers to symbolize the Christian Trinity.
Now, does this reflect on Christianity? Would it be fair for me to put you, as a Christian, in the same group as Arkan? How would Christians in the US react if I went to one of their web-sites and said I wanted to understand what made Christians create death-camps, ethnic cleansing and wage a world war every generation or so? Probably a lot of people would be mystified at my statements, and wonder who the heck I was. Not a few would think I was crazy.
How would you feel if I made broad sweeping remarks about your religion. You say Christianity has no leader, but what if I insist that the Pope speaks for all of you. Or, even better, that Pat Robertson is the man in chargee and he just issued a fatwa against Hugo Chavez in Venezuela?
Do you see my point? Brother, I'm not attacking you, but you have to understand.. (to be continued)
H.A, you did very good job in accusing all the elements of this problem. you did alots better than the unknown writer of this article.
this unworthy to be known gave the impression to moslems that he is about to bring some talk of wisdom by starting with a word that he never understood. later joggled between extremists to play his so called objectivety. but in conclusion, he had to jump on moslems to move them toward solving the hard side of the problem(which is stoping the fight back). why should a moslem fight another moslem because someone didn't listen and went after moslems in what Thomas Barnett called the Gap of the world?
Pat Robinson, Jerry Falwell and others are not the problem here. they had more than 1 billion dollars grant from the US administration. they are like lightbulb, they work when they get enough energy.
read carefuly the game? he said " However, we as Muslims must never, ever, commit their brand of evil upon innocent civilians " ... who is this moslem from us who come here who gonna accept to be accused like that? how many moslems from Islam.org or any islamic website, did attack innocent people? I know none, unless if this unknown author did it and didn't tell us the truth :).
read more about this game? :) "and if known to be committed by people who profess to be Muslims must be stopped primarily by Muslims themselves... " that's the target of his whole game. but the question here that should be addressed to the head of state and his team: how Dear you with the last technology and the whole pentagon and... fall to resolve this problem? and us who are simple moslems arround the world, we bearly own our living, gonna do it? do you think we have the magic stick? if yes, at least we use it to change our life first :). the chain of dumb policies will not stop unless a new Government with new strategy take place.
and if Mr unknown just used equal call to stop the fight from whose who intend to destroy Islam!!!?
You want"To try to understand what makes people who call themselves Muslims fly planes into our buildings and kill innocent people."? You are searching in the wrong place. First, this site is used mainly by North American Muslims. Second, Muslims do not do or facilitate acts of terrorism. Now, USA has caused some serious issues with some people in the Middle East that happen to be Muslims. They will try to get back to the US every way they could and this not because Islamic faith but out of retaliation. It's the law of equity. If one killed your brother, you will kill the one. It's the law in USA. The perpetrators are Muslims because you targeted them. Try targeting Hindus, see what happens. Anyway my answer to your dilemma about plains flying into buildings is simple:"What you sow you reap." You hurt the Muslims of X,Y country they will find a way to tell you they were hurt. It won't be pretty though, but hey, your call wasn't either. If the Canadian government would crack down on me because of my faith, I would be out in the streets rioting like those in France. Makes sense, doesn't it?
That's beautiful and very commendable Bruce. You love America, bully for you, Iraqis, Palestinians and others love their countries too. Allow me to disagree, US has no ability to self-correct, they go on though, the same stubborn old donkey way as in times of yore.
The type of patriotism in Canada? Good question. I wonder myself. At least we didn't compromise on humanity and the world loves us in return.
Correct. To pull out or not to pull out, that is the question. Yeah, the immortal question. However, Iraq doesn't want democracy and you cannot impose that by force and call yourselves a democracy? What is the conclusion? US is an opressor and a totalitarian foreign tyrant that follows only her own interests and a
The problem is neither Islam nor those who follow it. The problem is WESTERN GREED on others' resources. It's time some "flew planes" through "greed" of the west. Then and only the all the problems of the world would be resolved...
In summary, Arrest Bush, Blair, Zionists and all the Talibans (the real criminals of our time) in the U.S. gov't, put them behind bar and THEN "fly planes" thru the greed of the West.
This is the ultimate solution. THIS IS also THE "NAKED" truth. If anyone has hard time swallowing this truth, then that just TOO BAD...JUST FIND A RANCH AND FEED COWS...This is one of ways the "sefl-expressive" creatures of the West can lower their greed...b/c it's been proven by various clinical trials, the only exception is Bush jr (feeding cows increased his greed).
1. "fight must be against those who are combatants, not [innocent] civilians."
2. "respect the sanctity of the [holy places]"
3. "change [first] within our family ... than our nations; [than can we begin to strive or exert our utmost for the unfinished business]
4. "first we must clean our own houses of despot, squandering rulers and hypocritical extremists who claim to be the vanguards of Islam".
I agree that in his rage the author gotten carried away in using inappropriate quote or terms and not addressing this complex issue thoroughly, for instant is the Israeli settler in the West Bank an innocent non-combatant? Or the Abu Gharib contractors/agents in Iraq same as innocent civilians?
And Allah Knows Best.
I see some still continue to see it as "them & us".
I'll continue to live my life by "all & God"
Peace for all.
I'm not sure what you mean by my brand of "Patriotism", but I will try to tell you what it means to me.
Does it mean I agree with everything that is done by everyone in my country? No! I have my own opinions and am not afraid to express them.
Do I follow blindly without question the statements of our leadership? No! It is my duty in a democracy to ask questions and seek truth and to hold leaders accountable to their voters.
Why do I visit this website? To try to understand what makes people who call themselves Muslims fly planes into our buildings and kill innocent people.
Why do I try to defend the US? Because on this website and other sources, I see statements made out of hate, ignorance, paranoia, or possibly jealousy (I also see many statements from truly devout Muslims whose opinions I seek) that I know to be patently false or at least a distortion of the truth. These statements when repeated enough within a circle without defense become virtual truth. I am afraid that it is these "virtual truths" that become justifications for further terrorists acts. The next victim may be one of my own children. By responding to statements I take exception to I may at least engage the author in a dialogue that might bring us both closer to the truth. Mohsen Kenawy's post is a good example but one I'm not sure in which I will be able to engage a fruitful dialogue.
Do I love my country? Yes. We as a nation have a lot to be proud of. We have made mistakes and have done things that have brought shame upon us. We have also shown the ability to self-correct and go on.
What kind of patriotism do you have in Canada
read the article...it was good. but when US forces went on a rampage in IRAQ were all the muslim bretheren sleeping.comon comon its time all the muslims get united ...this is the true religion and we are its followers ,we should forge an alliance which can drive out the american at the worst case ...we should slaughter them right there ...or are we waiting for them to desecrate MECCA...i am proud to be a muslim and appreciate the pains muslims have taken over the ages, we have to face this battle with braveness and courage and deplore the sad state in which we have to see our brothers ...i think its time to raise the weapons...nuclear ,chemical,or biological it doesnt matter destroy the enemy their land and every thing that belongs to them
this is the hadith my brother that you can't get: The Prophet May the prayers of Allah be on him said "the WISDOM is lost for the TRUE believer, wherever he finds it, he should get it"
This is what I said Akhi: "in Islam we do not START articles with socrates words" and this is what you said "Islam teaches us wisdom and knowledge even if it is taken from non-Muslims..."
was the wisdom you learnt from Islam who didn't help you to make difference between STARTING article and wisdom?
Plz next time,try to read more than one time inorder to answear? we start the Islamic Articles with something Islamic and later quote from whoever you like. you do not put the WORD of Allah who Has 0 tolerance under the word of someone that I proved to you in my last post, in our time, he is wrong in what he said.
that quote from Socrates can work just in time of Socrates where slaves were not educated AT ALL. if you worship Socrates, I just proved to you that his words are not for anytime. I advice you to drop that worship.
If you just admire him, I adviced and still advice you to admire the way he chose to drink poison OVER losing his right to express himself.
I already wrote this small coming story, but was lost in cyberspace.
the example of moslems today is like some people caught in battlefield between a teeny_weeny rat and Super Giant Monster(SGM). when the moster attack the mouse and hurt us, we just forgive him. when the teeny_weeny rat fight back and hurt us, we and the SGM begin chasing it :).
I don't worship Socrates but I do have more respect to him THAN to many of those who write whatever here. I know if Socrates is alife, he will accept to drink the poison over losing his right to express himself against the Super Giant Monster mentioned above.
May Allah help us to what He wants and Accepts for us.Ameen.
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Mebrocky, if you still visit this site, you are right and I stand corrected. Although, I don't remember to have accused either the Christians or the Jews to be congenital evil.
Bruce, I really don't know what you are talking about. If you followed my comments you could see that I don't spare noone, Muslim, Christian, Jewish or otherwise. If I do not agree with a statement I will let you know. We don't have your type of "Patriotism" and "Homeland Security" here in Canada. What I can voice in Canada I couldn't voice in many so called free countries of the world. It's just my luck, I guess. Don't take me amiss though, I disapprove with any sort of killing, unless it's an execution of a proven felon. What difference in result and in concept is there between terrorists blowing to pieces civilians in a public place or US army burning with white phosphorous bombs civilians in their habitations? Do you think is there for God? You'll be surprised by God's decission. I'm not going to play god, but the blood of the innocent is in greater number on the hands of the Americans than on anybody's else. Remember, not for nothing USA is the most hated nation in the world.
Eventually, USA will need to accept defeat in Iraq and pull out her troops before more mothers become grieving. It will not happen under Bush. Bush is the kind of donkey that would rather have USA bankrupt than step over his imbecilic pride and admit that going to war with Iraq was a bad idea. Iraq will be in chaos for many years to come. Maybe Iraq is the beginning of something. An Islamic Renaissance is long overdue. However the present situation and hostilities toward Islam impede the due process of Islamic rebirth. Instead, the most radical elements are surfacing and gain terrain in the onslought.
Yes there were mistakes, but hey, they are doing the dirty work with what ever little resources. The hypocrites are good at commenting from the comforts of bedrooms,
thanks to the relentless insurgency (in Iraq and outside) that US playing the game of democracy and election, else they would have installed a puppet dictator in Iraq and cheap oil to profit from.
How ever oppressed and evil the Bush may be I still like him to have few more terms as US president, because I am sure he will make sure the ignorant and self-centered people (like their president) will soon end up queuing up for bread. He is the right person for the demise of US.
First i would like to give my thanks to those who wrote this article for showing an interest in Islam, jihad, and its current geopolitical influence. However, i would also like to say that if your going to say that Jihad is not being waged correctly, which is what i took as the basic point of the article, then i suggest rather than calling for a stop to Jihad in its current form you join and lead by example and urge the Muslim Ummah to join in as well. Clearly, if we all know the right way to do it, then why let our religion be hijacked by the few who have no clue. The struggle is going to continue regardless of our position, we can either do it correctly and triumph, or let these atrocities keep happening without knowing or understanding their islamic justifications. Simply turning a blind eye and speaking against our muslim brothers who are continuously risking their lives with the pure intent of establishing a Muslim State is not the answer, solution, or course of action. Following this path simply causes division and confusion within the Ummah and appeases the Kuffar, which is exactly what they aim to accomplish.
TODAY OUR SCIENTIST SEARCH ABOUT ANY THING BUT OUR ISLAM ALREADY GIVE ME THIS TYPE OF KNOWLEDGE WHICH WE SEARCH EVERY DAY SO WE CAN EASILY SAY THAT ISLAM IS THE MOST POWER FULL WHICH GAVE ME WHOLE KNOWLEDGE .
THIS IS ANOTHER THING THAT OUR CALTURE IS CHANGED DAILY AND CONVERT HIS STYLE IN FASION THIS TYPE OF THING IS GENERALLY HAPPEND. GENERALL OUR PARANTS IS KNOW THAT TODAY ONLY GAINING MONY IS ONLY MAIN THING BUT THIS IS NOT A SUCH TYPE OF THINFG .IF WE DETERMINE THAT I DO EVERY THING UNDER THE ISLAM THEN IS IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE SO WE CAN IMPROVE THIS
IN THIS TIME IF A BOY WHO STUDY IN COLLEGE,IF YOU ASKED THAT WHAT IS OUR ISLAM ? THEN HE CANT GIVE RIGHT ANSWER OF THIS QUESTION. JUST ASKED THAT WHAT IS KALEMA THEN HE CANT GIVE WRIGHT ANSWER SO IF WE WANT SAVE OUR ISLAM THEN WE FIRST OF ALL WELL DETERMINE THAT I DO SOMETHING FOR ISLAM
Dr?. Edriss, I doubt that anyone in 2000 years will be quoting anything you have written.
Hudd, Why do you seem to make so much sense when you address a Muslim and babble incoherently when addressing the rest of the world?
Ismail ghori, "Educate a boy you have educated only a person. Educate a girl you have educated an entire family." Amen
TS, lighten up. Editorial Comment, listen before you react.
Abdi, "I believe and history proved that a true Muslim leader is far better than a secular Muslim leader." The problem is there is no true Muslim leader, just as there is no true Christian leader. Better to have a fair secular leader who allows the pious of all faiths to practice their faith. There is nothing as corrupting as power in both political and religious spheres. History truly has proved this. This is what TS fears.
Be a Muslim . Not a suf! rabet
"Change comes from the roots of a good tree not from a colored glass" Aaed
Islam is growing. Growing is painful and that's what were seeing today. Islam is like a beutiful butterfly coming out of it's millenial cocoon, but like any butterfly it's wings are soft and fraile. It is our duty as muslims to make sure it comes out unharmed. Only our resolve and following the teachings of the Qran and our prophet will save it.Only then Allah(SWT) will be pleased with his children.
he is not author brothers and sisters. he is just a game of those who want curse moslems by pretending they are doing it objectively. if I have nothing to do or I get paid to give a service to someone else, I will hire a hacker and I will post whatever to advance my agenda, later come back with thousand usernames and post them as they agree with me. this things sucks :). Islam.org should do something about it. they are getting hijacked by some people who studied how the website works.
this dumb boy didn't understand that in Islam we do not start articles with socrates words. ooop's I should not say that because this guys got job to do (which is to destroy Islam from inside or outside). more we uncover their games, they just go and correct it for the next time. they work with money, more money means more work. you cut the money and you cut the plug on them.
what socrates said is dumb in our day. and what we say today, will be dumb for others in the future. following socrates words, he is evil now because his knowledge before is unworthy today. in more simplistic way: socrates is ignorant on microprocessors, atoms and all the science we enjoy today. then following his words, he is evil.
If someone on this Earth claim that he is learning something from Socrates, it should be the way Socrates stood against the power of his society. I don't think Socrates gonna stand against the consequences of American policies! he will rater stand against those who shifted the American democracy to a pre_dictatorship.
According to a study conducted by Prof. Pape of University of Chicago, the actions of the terrorists are NOT propelled by religion, but by occupation - whether, it is the Muslims or the Hindu Tamil Tigers of Sri Lanka,or the Christians of Northern Ireland.
But to curb terrorism, we must demand from our elected leaders to address the root causes of terrorism and violence. But than again, some of the them may qualify for this dubious distinction themselves!!
For a practicing Muslim, or for that matter any one practicing his true faith - there is no room for terrorism.
And guess what, the rest of the non-Muslim world, or the infidels as you call us, are sick of your whining!
In keeping with those most powerful words from Qur'an, our concentration needs to be on following them rather than criticizing others for failing in that regard. For as we become examples, the light which we generate will extinguish the darkness that is spread by the unfaithful.
The revolution should begins within ourselves.
May Allah grant us the strength.
In this world our main responsibility as a muslim is to worship Allah and treat the whole of mankind with love, respect and dignity. Also everything around us be it animals, earth, environment you name it is under our responsibility to look after with care and love. Not even a small ant or fly should be harmed by us. This is the true spirit of Islam to love and be loved.
As hard as it is for all of us muslims be it new converts or those who were born in Islam all I could say is that Allah is with us all times. His Mercy is around us. The fact that we are being tested for actions that is not our own does not mean that He left us alone. Just reflect the real message of our prophet in your hearts and you will see that our probelms are tiny compared to the millions around the globe including children who are dying be it in the cold or hot weather with no parents and no food or shelter over their head.
This wolrd is a test and we will all depart from it when our turn comes to rejoin with our Beloved Creator. Such journey is a blessing where all that is hidden is uncovered and we all return to a world full of glory for those who earned it in beleiving their God and messenger of Allah and followed his path with peace, respect and love for humanity.
Dear sis., enjoy the test that has been put infront of you, for Allah is well attentive to the heart that is alert to His Love and love for humanity. Negative and positive are twin features that balance life. Just look into your heart for positive inspirations and enligthen the others from your heart without expecting favour.
I find that the diversity of opinions justifies how confusing this era is for the muslims. I give credit to all of you who come in this forum and have the courage to speak their mind. this shows that at least there are a few who are concerned with the situation of our Umma. One suggestion I have is to put on hold our differences on this bless day of Friday and let's unite and pray individually sometime during the day to Allah (swt) to clean our hearts, guide us and give victory to the muslims.
but many argue that this is the only option that is open to such people after having exhorted to many other ways of fighting oppression..........
they argue that it is jihad.... killing of the innocents.
the factual function of futility defined:
arguing endlessly with nonbelievers who've terrorized people for two millenia, but now claim the moral highground when some unfortunate arab teenager loses his family to a yahuudi avvram missile, and decides to respond in the same fashion.
There are so many things wrong with your comments, that I don't know if I can address them all. Nevertheless, I will try.
"You know Zinedine didn't mean all the allegations you stated. You just can't help yourself in twisting the meaning of statement coming from Muslims."
So you're telling me that since Zinedine didn't mean his words that I quoted directly, I am the one who's "twisting" them? Yeah, you lost me here.
" I give you that, you have some unsolved beef with Zinedine and you want revenge. No good, Nick, the revenge belongs to the Lord. "
Wrong. As I stated on many occasions, my concern is not with any particular Muslim here. I believe that people like Zinedine are just a symptom of a greater problem in the Muslim world, and this breakdown in morality is the root of terrorism. If Zinedine was stating an opinion that only he held, then it really wouldn't be my problem. Unfortunately, it seems to be a pervasive viewpoint within the Muslim world that we cannot expect "oppressed" people to avoid evil conduct.
"For the purpose of frankness and unbiased truth, we have to recognize the truth even if it comes from our enemies."
Indeed? People here have accused me of being an enemy of Muslims. Does that mean that if I truthfully criticize wrongs that occur in the Muslim world, I should be recognized?
"What Zinedine said was not what you derived, but rather this: "Even though, man is by his Godly nature, a being inclined to do rather good than wrong, can be brought to act against his nature under the following conditions: Muslims under duress and oppression, Christians being manipulated(like WMD, Sadam and al-Qaeda, Islamism=terrorism,etc.) and Jews being brainwashed(like, Israel is your God-given land, you have to exterminate the barbarian Arabs which are a threat to the very existance of Israel, etc.)"
Dear brother Hudd D'Alhamd, I have so much respect for you not just because you always defend my points but also because you have what the French call "une tete bien form) simply meaning a really good brain. As a matter of fact, you always manage to read between the lines unlike Nick who's heart is hardned & who's mind is blinded by a sort of an unhealthy patriotism. As a result he become so stubborn to accept the truth & needs redundant details & babysat to no avail...Wa Allahi I knew he is going to use this paragraph: " we cannot always expect them to be good under all circumstances especially when they are oppressed in the case of Muslims or manipulated in the case of Christians and brainwashed in the case of Jews." against me; I was going to elaborate on my point but I was too busy at work as I frequently get interrupted by other responsibilities throughout the day when I am writing but I also knew that if I don't get into details it's still a win-win situation because Nick will fall into this trap by fishing in dirty waters as usual.
Jazaka Allahu khairan again for a solid defense of the truth.
Alhamdullilah The article was right to the point. However, I would like to tell that such people demean Islam are not muslims to begin with. anybody defy Quran and Sunnah is not a muslim. There were hipocrites in the time of the Prophet (SAWS)and there are hypocrites in the society today. What we lack, IS Unity and the Obdiance to ALLAH. We left his string and HE left ours. Please forgive me if I have written too much.
JAzakallah hu Khairun
You cared to say:"Not only can we expect 100% good out of people, but God also requires it" One thing is what God requires and what good people like yourself expect from others. Does it happen? Then why do we have in all societies, thieves, murderers, rapists, US and Western serial killers, Western pedophiles and daughter molesters. Man plans, God delivers. Societies planned since Sumer and Babylon, e.g.,the code of Hammurabi, to force man to be good if he chose not to. Unsuccessfully. USA has an inmate population of over 2 million and those my friend are not Muslims but by a minimal number, mind you. What is this, Nick? "This is a classic example of the breakdown in moral values that I've been referring to for weeks now." Begging your pardon, you don't have a point here. But to support your claim, I give you something to chew on:"Is the Iraq war a mistake, since WMD weren't found? The answer from your dignitaries, No, but he could have had them and he might have used them against us." Is this moral?
I could not say it any better than the author did. I agree with the statement that every individual should correct themselves and adhere to the Islamic religion and the teachings of the great prophet MUHAMAD (SAW), and all Muslims will look good! However, Let me hit the point that moderate Islamists are the ones that demean Islam itself by trying to appeal to non-muslims. Look at the secular governments (like Saudi Arabia, Egeypt, Pakistan, and the entire middle east) who practically demean Islam and oppress their people day and night. America would not want to have such a government system and yet they praise and help those secular government to better opress these people.
If we could only get someone to clear these borders and make all Muslims one like it was at the time of the prophet, Islam would make a sense on the world stage. This war is fought in every aspect. Look at the excellent jouralism that Al-Jazeera did and is still doing; Instead of praising them they are called a terrorist TV channel! If the west wants real peace they have to stop fighting wars with Muslims on every front.
I beleive and history proved that a true Muslim leader is far better than a secular Muslim leader. Remember that Prophet Muhamed protected the jews from Christain army at his time. Islam is a peacefull and just religion and as far as its believers don't act (truly) like bleivers it will stay on the opposite otherwise.
How to do?
The saying goes that, a mad man once said that he will have all the city population cover their head with a tiny rob! he was asked how can you do that and he said that I am going to start with you. You cover your head and if everybody does that the whole city will be covered in no time!
Now (starting myself) start yourself and be a true believer and Islam will shine in no time!
Thanks for your interset in reading my comment and may god have marcy on you.
The topic really touched me and I would like to contribute my thoughts.
I have suggestions for muslims and general public in developed countries to look beyond thier own lives.
Muslims know that they are seen as unreliable, dangerous and inhumane. If we go back in time, look into the facts and observe we will find that muslim world have fallen into a deep pit that was engineered by some special interest groups who benefitted the most from these results.
It strated when hollywood started portraying muslims commiting violent acts, this worked like a dual sided sword, it developed common man phyche that muslims are violent and on the other hand they provided ideas to the lost and frustrated extremists how to commit acts of violence with grace. Those that didn't had much knowledge about Islam and didn't even understood the ideology behind it fall in this pit while falling bought down the whole muslim nation.
Our faults were and still are: as a muslims we are lost, hollow inside, we might be believers but definately we were not followers.
General Public in developed countries:
These are basically innocent people, sometimes refered to as ignorants, who lives simply and mind thier own business, but they don't realize that "Little Knowledge is very dangerous thing", its better not to listen to news at all then listening to a 5 minutes world news headlines, which never gives them insight to the real issues.
In fact the media is brain washing them by hiding the details, these people have no idea the political and monetary benefits these media giants gain from special interest groups for such practices. These groups are always conspiring how to use and get the most out of the masses on the other hand the "Masses" are working hard to make thier ends meet or busy entertaining themselves.
Please wake up and see
"...we cannot always expect them to be good under all circumstances especially when they are oppressed in the case of Muslims or manipulated in the case of Christians and brainwashed in the case of Jews."
This is by far one of the weakest excuses I've ever heard for evil. Not only can we expect 100% good out of people, but God also requires it. He never said that we must be good some of the time and only when we feel not so oppressed. God made no exceptions for evil, and those Muslims who tells us, "Well we aren't walking Qurans so we can't be expected to be good all the time" contradict God's laws.
This is a classic example of the breakdown in moral values that I've been referring to for weeks now. There's a bright line between right and wrong, and all people, including Muslims, must act accordingly. No more excuses.
Tell the Yankee that the New Hampshire's motto, "Live Free or Die," is part of the ethics of America's freedom fighter in their war against the royalist Brits & is not a value that is restricted to Muslims only. Umm Muhammad, Junaid, Ahmed, Hudd D'Alhamd & Adamo have already made good points by asking questions that have not been answered yet such us what caused this madness of terror, who's really behind it and who benefits from it. Who controls knowledge, the mass media, information, brainwashing powers, cultural wholesale etc? We may not agree on what I just said but we at least know who the losers are; they are usually people that are not included in decision making whether bad or good: innocent civilians like Sara herself. But remember that because humans are not walking Qur'ans or living Bibles, or breathing Torahs, we cannot always expect them to be good under all circumstances especially when they are oppressed in the case of Muslims or manipulated in the case of Christians and brainwashed in the case of Jews.
Sara you should know better since you are English that English saying a hungry man is an angry man. The impoverished hungry nations watch their wealth squandered by their corrupt leaders and businessmen backed up by an elite of evil group of scholars & think tanks. How would you feel if your country is an oil producing one such as Nigeria and 1 litre of pure water in any supermarket is twice the price of 1litre of oil when water is replaceable but oil is not. The exact opposite should have happened but because Western nations states & their multinational corporations (the core) have decided to capitalistically deplete the wealth of the impoverished nation states in an act of economic racism & brutal exploitation of their resources for centuries, the value of their goods & services are relatively cheaper than the values of goods & services of those of the West. Furthermore, when they sense there is a probabilit
why do we need a socratic halftruth to set the scene for our self-flagellation that is watched by our 'masters' for any deviation from rules of our acceptability into their 'civilized' society ?
Follow your own advice, and examine your inner self with the critical eye of taqwa : notwitstanding the power of the massive and powerful propaganda and disinformation,is that simple taliban not a better muslim than you are?
when you stop becoming mesmerised by the 'so-called 'founding principals(sic) of this nation', you'd realise that these principles are based on murder,looting, massacres, slavery,stealing other peoples' lands, bullying, actually using weapons of mass destruction(including nuclear, chemical and biological)......and many other such examples of civilized behaviour, of which we all are very envious!
Yes there cannot be any justification for taking of innocent lives,least by Muslims. There are No Muslim Terrorists; but there are a lot of angry human beings , frustrated and humiliated. What we need to do is to find a way of managing this anger.
Everything should be doen for the sake of Allah swt. Good actions with good intentions. Ameen
People of different faiths should come together and challenge international polices to help the average poor people accross the globe whose voice can not be heard.
A lot of people think that international policies does not concern them and leave it to their politicians but unfortunately that is not the reality. We are one community call it the human race or the global community. The issues that concern us all are real and closer to our doors no matter where you live in this small globe of ours.
I hope we can all challenge ourselves to adopt new changes to our universal role in helping humanity.
Attacking Islam, or any other religion is not going to solve the real problems that exist beyond the politics of religion.
We can replace international policies with universal values that help poor countries taking as an example building centres where people of all faiths take part to help those who are less fortunate. Imagine having excellence centres with doctors from all backgrounds treating the poor with money donated from across the globe.
For me personally the sufferings of humanbeings accross the globe that is increasing through the tools of poverty, war, lack of basic access to medical care and so on, makes me wonder why are acting like we have no ears, eyes and hearts. We can all relate to each other's pain and sufferings without leaving our homes.
God created us to be thinking machines with one heart,one soul and with solutions at our disposal.God created this whole world as a test for our conscious.Surely most of us can not bear to be free from the sufferings of other's. Those of us who are more fortunate must help those who are less fortunate.
The fact is that in as long as the second question Hudd D'Alhamd asked in his response No. 23540 could not even be ask not to talk of answering it, then we will continue to see the suicidal missions of alqaeda, Hamas etc on the increase. And also so will the muslim world's acceptance of these missions as the only way out. To be forwarn is to be FORARM. Somebody should begin to do something before it is too late. And in this circumstances it looks like the UN Security council(even though I have my doubts) should start the ball rolling.
Lest I forget the question is, "why are these people terrorists?"
"When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist." was said by archbishop Helder Camara.
I love reading your comments.keep it up!
The messenger of Allah (PBUH) said that there will be trials and afflictions in the future during which a sitting person is better than a standig person who will be better than the walking person who will be better than the person running to these fitan or Al-Harj(killings), so stay away from them. Don't even try to make excuses for them( revenge for what is happening to muslims etc). DO NOT assume that these are muslims doing this. Muslims know in their hearts that muslims couldn't possibley doing this. It is simply unislamic. Don't let people tell you that you have different typs of muslims, such as extrimist etc. Revert to the quote above by the messenger of Allah and stick to it.
the author made several important points at the start of this article. he/she then explored in more detail a few of them, but not enough, and there were too many issues not adressed at all. The article ended so abruptly with so much left unsaid.
the comment by Hudd D'Alhamd was excellent. we should demand an honest answer to this question from ourselves and our leaders.
one should also not chose one's evil Shuja, but speak out against all evil. one compromises one's integrity and how can anyone take one seriously after that.
We need to denounce the evil of killing innocent civilians and the intolerance Muslims have shown towards people of different religions or races. Without somehow trying to justify their behavior.
At the very least we should begin by hating in our hearts the evil actions of Muslims.
We cannot claim to follow a great religion and at the same time behave in the worst manner.
So if we say the car bombings in Iraq are done in the name of Islam- then in the name of Christianity American troops are there. So in the name of Satan we have this misunderstanding of how and when to evoke the name of religion. So in the name of Allah may this occupation END.
How do you reasoned with an entity who has occupied your land under the pretext of bringing you something you didn't ask for- nor has it delivered to its own land. (this so-called western-style democracy)
Islam is not being misrepresented when a car bomb goes off and civilians are killed. Muslims misrepresent Islam when they remain in a state of shocked by foreign powers, stand by and watch their land pillaged, plundered, Islam slandered, marginalized and these passive westernize Muslims do nothing.
Also to see how Islam dennounces terrorism plse visit: http://www.islamdenouncesterrorism.com/
Also to know about Islam and muslim's plse visit: http://muslimheritage.com/
Another European website briding a dialoge with Islam: http://www.qantara.de/
Speech by Prince Charles on Islam: http://www.sunnah.org/nl/v0104/prince.htm
Striving for excellence - HRH Prince Charles speech at The Muslim News Awards:
What is important is not attacking Islam but those who are using Islam to legitimise their wrong actions across the globe in the name of Islam. It takes women and men of knowledge with universal values to protect the true teachings Islam. Islam has contributed to world civilization and still is. To attack it will be to attack a whole civilization that has contributed to the civilization we adore today.
Women from all religions and backgrounds also need to protect Islam which is part of our universal civilization otherwise a time will come where knowledge and peace will be destroyed and chaos and ignorance will follow hence the destruction of our universal civilization.
Our global community is so interconnected that we can not afford any sort civilization to be shaken let alone destroyed. If one thinks deeply on how war, world poverty, lack of education and human rights for all(including respecting rights of women) slowly destroys civilizations then will one realise how slowly our own universal values will erode away.
We must all rescue world peace which is the foundation for peace and civilization to flourish. No one owns world civilization and it belongs to us all the human race.
Sometimes peoples attitude and utterances means you want to get violet,then they say 'you Muslims are violet",when they provoke you intentionally expecting a reaction and when you do they say Muslims are violet.
May Allah Guide Us.Amin.
that the people that did this were Muslim?
Just because the media says so? Are there
any "suicide bombers" out there that we as
Muslims can give dawah to?
Where did any one get the idea that they can
kill in a manner the Prophet Muhammad (prayers
and blessings be upon him) did not and still
call themself a Muslim? As Muslims we must
think and question what liars (the media)say
How do we know what they believe?