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Christian Suicide shooter Kills Innocent Americans
| What if the media applies the same rules it applies to report incidents of violence in the Muslim world? What if the reporter happened to have biases against Christianity? What if he is totally ignorant of the Milwaukee religious profile and the American religious landscape? The result will not be different than what you may read in the following story. |
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A Christian Terrorist kills seven innocent Americans including children and women. The terrorist act happened on Saturday at a church service held regularly at the Sheraton Hotel in Brookfield, Wisconsin. After killing the seven innocent people the Christian terrorist killed himself. Four died at the scene and three others died later of their injuries, police said. They ranged in age from 16 to over 60 year olds.
The terrorist was described as a 45-year-old man who had been affiliated with the church, which met at the hotel every Saturday morning for several years. The group, the Church of the Living God, is an evangelical church that observes the Sabbath on Saturday, not on Sunday. It was reported that the gunman had differences with the Church Leaders on various religious affairs including the Christian Sabbath day. Experts believe that his act was inspired by several biblical verses that promote violence in the Old Testament. However, no one has demanded a serious study on the issue of Biblical roots of Violence.
Experts also believe that the inspiration for the terrorist act came from the belief that the killing would be forgiven as Jesus has already died for the sins of all the Christians.
Several Experts on Christianity tend to believe that the rising violence in the US can be attributed to this belief. In a survey done by some experts it was revealed that most Christians believe that their sins have already been forgiven as the Son of God has died for their sin. "The rising violence and the indulgence of Christians in the killing, looting and cheating acts all over the world can be attributed to this belief", said an expert. "When people believe that they are not accountable to any higher authority as they have already been forgiven, they tend to commit excesses regardless of the harm they inflict upon people", explained the expert.
"If the world wants to see a decrease in violence in countries with Christian majority, they have to look at the Christian theology of sin and crucifixion", added the expert.
Seemingly, the incidents of violence are on the rise in the USA, after the re-election of Mr. Bush who is said to be a staunch evangelical born-again Christian.
Experts feel that his re-election has emboldened several rightwing Christians. Several religious communities are questioning the silence of Christian leaders and scholars in discussing the theology of the forgiveness of sin.
Muslim scholars, however, have warned against generalization. They said that the action of a few Christians cannot be used to condemn Christianity or blame all Christians for violence. They cautioned against viewing all churches as potential cells where violent and terrorist Christians hide. They argue that such a description of Christians or their churches will be a violation of the principles of Islam that promote respect for people of all faith.
The Milwaukee terror act has created a climate of fear in religious circles all over the country. People fear that potential Christian killers and terrorists might be present in every religious gatherings, waiting for the right moment to strike against innocent Americans.
Several Christian leaders, however, suggest that such acts are inspired by Satan, and they have no place in the official teachings of Christianity. Some of them blame the presence of other religions in America as a source of corruption of their faith. Others argue that by accepting Jesus as Son of God and God (Muslims and Jews don't believe in the concept of trinity) all people will be saved from hellfire. However, many Christians reject this theology arguing that people will be judged according to their actions, a position held by Muslims all over the world.
Note: The above is only an example of what a biased media report of Christianity may contain.
Dr. Aslam Abdullah is editor in chief of the Muslim Observer and director of the Islamic Society of Nevada, Las Vegas as well as the director of the Muslim Electorates Council of America (MECA).
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STEPHAN HEISER FROM AMERICA said:
I am against it for this fact I believe that no matter if you agree or disagree with someone you don't go and kill them first off. I know for a fact that God is Jesus and Jesus is God just from what the bible says but why continue to argue with arogant people who won't agree with you who want to live their own way. I say let them be, but saying them them be does not mean that you don't pray for them. Prayer is a powerful weapon. Probably the most powerful weapon in the World because it is praying to the most high, the most powerful 1 in the World {Jahova} Now last thing is we need to let go and we need to sometimes agree to disagree on certain things. God Bless!
2007-12-11
HUDD FROM CANADA said:
Sherly, I'm sorry, but they did claim that they were doing the will of God(the Christian terrorists). But this is not the point, also those Islamic fractions that bombed mosques of other fractions claimed that they were doing the will of God. My point is, these terroristic actions use everything avilable to impress and vindicate the deed. What more than God is there to claim on your side? Religion is used to motivate and justify the unjustifiable and the insane! This doesn't mean that the fault stays with the religion, does it? The fault is with the culprit, let's leave God out of men's mischieves. O, of course, they(any perpetrater) would claim God as to be on his side. Will we believe him on his/her word? A criminal? I guess not. Therefore, let's agree that Islam is great, because it is, and anybody that is not up to its greatness, failed as an individual, not as a Muslim. Islam is the way God prescribed mankind to survive in the valley of death, if you will, and suicidal or mass murdering the innocent are not parts of His majestic plan. If you don't believe me, read a good and authorized translation of the Quran.
Peace!
Peace!
2005-03-29
DALE FROM U.K. said:
The difference between Islamic terror and the Christian terror portrayed here is: This is fiction! (and the article did not make this clear)
2005-03-28
SHERLY ISAAC FROM USA said:
Well, the difference is that the shooter never claimed as if he is doing it for God or God commanded him to do it. Not only that but God of the Bible never wants suicide bombers or killers who may kill innocent people. Bible condemns innocent killing.
Thanks
Sherly Isaac
http://bibleandquran.org
Thanks
Sherly Isaac
http://bibleandquran.org
2005-03-26
SUSANA FROM TORONTO, CANADA said:
Alhamdulillah. I'm sick of people trying to portray Islam as evil and oppressive again and again... as if the source of evil derives from Islam. When in fact, it was under the banner of Christianity that lead to the near extinction of the peoples in North/South America and Australia. This is a good article, alhamdulillah.
2005-03-18
HUDD FROM CANADA said:
The difference between this sort of Christian terrorism and the Islamic one is as follows. The Christian terrorist is a deranged person out of unknown reasons(sexual molestation in early childhood, exposure to sodomic gang rape, alcohol, drugs, etc.) and believe it or not, this is what the media try to buy their audience that the Islamic terrorists were, deranged persons. It could be, but not as a result of the same circumstances as the Christian ones. The Islamic terrorists have a political agenda behind their acts(that sometimes go beyond the intended effect) or simply revenge for murdered members of their family, which is quite a normal human reaction. In other words if we consider both Muslims and Christian terrorists as psychopaths, they are of different nature. In the case of the Christians, socio-economic factors are to be considered as well with a false impression of what morality stands for and ethicality. For the Muslim counter part would be the socio-economoc conditions created by their international marginalization and neo-colonialism as well as their own government's dire dictatorial crackdowns on the progressive minds. In the end the innocent dies, which is not good!
Peace to all!
Peace to all!
2005-03-17
JENSEN FROM DENMARK said:
GOD IS MERCIFUL ACCORDING TO CHRISTIANITY AND
AND ISLAM.I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE,THAT THIS
COULD INSPIRE ANYONE TO TERRORISM.
BY THE WAY,WHO IS THIS "EXPERT"?
AND ISLAM.I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE,THAT THIS
COULD INSPIRE ANYONE TO TERRORISM.
BY THE WAY,WHO IS THIS "EXPERT"?
2005-03-17
STRAWBERRY FROM CALIFORNIA USA said:
Why do people commit acts of killing, jealousy, anger, revenge or hatred? Does anyone ask WHY? There has to me a reason, THE Most High God gave all of us a brain to use along with a merciful Heart. Over and over again there was a pattern" and a common set of external circumstances. The human brain is "affected" with starvation, chemicals (pesticides,mercury, dioxins, weapons fallout, pharmecueticals or drugs and a form of low level radiation found in all electro-magnetic sattelite waves). Radiation exposure even decades of low level radiation affects the human brain and all sexual deviant behaviors are triggered in the cerebellum, all addictions are brain chemical imbalances and all mental disorders are progressive (from massive world wide depression thru paranoia and bipolar to schizaphrenia to suicide) and they are triggered in the brain thru the amygadalia and the lymbic system due to brain chemical imbalance...and then there is the the dark spiritual side of all human beings..once the brain has been affected. It's the common denominator and if you look for it you will find it. Then is there "FORGIVENESS" if progress and the world's technology did this to humans..if there is a reason for the behavior ... by mainly starving others we all contributed to this ... then would there be forgiveness???
2005-03-17
JAN FROM USA said:
Each time it happens in the States we are shocked. But should we be surprised?
How can anybody be surprised, when the System and the Belief itself created the monster that occasionally comes home to roost?
Could it be that these terrorists have seen too much of state terrorism by the government which acts as a global bully and treat the weaker nations' inhabitants as collateral damage?
How can anybody be surprised, when the System and the Belief itself created the monster that occasionally comes home to roost?
Could it be that these terrorists have seen too much of state terrorism by the government which acts as a global bully and treat the weaker nations' inhabitants as collateral damage?
2005-03-17
MANSOOR BIN ANSARI FROM USA said:
As-salam-alaikum,
Dr Syed Alwi, the reason why Chechyans & Palestanians associate thier wars with Islam
1) They r being persecuted mainly bcoz they r muslims
2) The war is against oppression & Islam tells us to fight opression.
btw, IRA's war is based on religion. Catholics vs. Prostestan.t
Dr Syed Alwi, the reason why Chechyans & Palestanians associate thier wars with Islam
1) They r being persecuted mainly bcoz they r muslims
2) The war is against oppression & Islam tells us to fight opression.
btw, IRA's war is based on religion. Catholics vs. Prostestan.t
2005-03-16
HUDD D'AELIA FROM CANADA said:
That's very funny, Jerry, honestly I laughed my lungs out. Sad enough there are people out there that act that way, but thanks for pointing out the ridicule of this idiotic belief! You are the bomb, man, are you a Muslim too? Let me know that I should welcome you my brother!
Peace be upon you!
Peace be upon you!
2005-03-16
MOUNT FROM USA said:
No matter what the media does, finally its the truth that prevails.
2005-03-16
LENALDA DE ARAGO MENEZES FROM BRASIL said:
Don't put christians against mulism ones.Because the most catholics in Brasil don't agree it and Papa Joo Paulo II is for peace in the world,between all religions!
2005-03-16
CC FROM USA said:
This article proves nothing. It creates a false dilema and it's fiction comes as close to reality as the WMD argument presented by Bush.
What a waste of internet space.
What a waste of internet space.
2005-03-16
BRUCE FROM US said:
it is indeed a terrorist christian and it's the job of the mosslim media to hightlight that. thank you for doing your job.
the mosslims should stand strong and fear none but Allah as they claim to make the balance in this life. If you are a mosslim able to use your mind, anyway you take it, you have to stand for whatever you believe. you have also to force the others to respect you, otherwise they won't do it from their own.
it is indeed a terrorist christian and it's the job of the mosslim media to hightlight that. thank you for doing your job.
the mosslims should stand strong and fear none but Allah as they claim to make the balance in this life. If you are a mosslim able to use your mind, anyway you take it, you have to stand for whatever you believe. you have also to force the others to respect you, otherwise they won't do it from their own.
2005-03-16
H.A. FROM YATHRIB said:
Terrorists = those who possess 7,000 nuclear weapons + first to drop nuclear bomds on innocent civilians (on Japanese) + support state (only i.e.-Israel) sponsor terrorism w/ $4,000,000,000 package annually + sold human beings(African Americans) like cattles + trangressors (goes to Church only after events like 9/11) + supporters of puppets (i.e.- Saddam) + owner of FOX NEWS + ~ 200,000,000 aikemans + occupiers and abusers of Native American lands + those who are afraid of other nations possessing WMD (Why? b/c evi1 committed by them with follow Newton's m1.a1 = - m1.a1 equation (meaning evil committed by them around the globe will come back and explode on their faces))
2005-03-16
YASMENE FROM UNITED STATES said:
Hell Ya!!!! Finally it ain't the muslims, my question is why isnt this all over cnn?
2005-03-16
H.A. FROM YATHRIB said:
Dear Dr. Syed Alwi,
I do not how the heck you earned your doctorate degree... &
You obviously do not know about Islam... Muslims are supposed to stand up for justice. You/the West may call them radicals but for example, the Palestianians NEVER call HAMAS a terrorist organization...they call them FREEDOM FIGHTERS...exactly like the U.S. public considers the U.S. soldiers coming back from IRAQ as heroes.
Don't you think the war in IRAQ was a crime against humanity? The brain-dead American boy just killed > 100,000 Iraqis....for what? was not that a radical act?
Let me teach you little more about Islam...DON'T EVER DR. anyone on this site. Leave your TITLE at home...Title means nothing in Islam and to true Muslims..Next time type your name as Syed Alwi and leave Dr. out....ONLY dummies are proud of their Titles.
I do not how the heck you earned your doctorate degree... &
You obviously do not know about Islam... Muslims are supposed to stand up for justice. You/the West may call them radicals but for example, the Palestianians NEVER call HAMAS a terrorist organization...they call them FREEDOM FIGHTERS...exactly like the U.S. public considers the U.S. soldiers coming back from IRAQ as heroes.
Don't you think the war in IRAQ was a crime against humanity? The brain-dead American boy just killed > 100,000 Iraqis....for what? was not that a radical act?
Let me teach you little more about Islam...DON'T EVER DR. anyone on this site. Leave your TITLE at home...Title means nothing in Islam and to true Muslims..Next time type your name as Syed Alwi and leave Dr. out....ONLY dummies are proud of their Titles.
2005-03-16
YAHYA BERGUM FROM USA said:
Sorry, Jerry, but such humor is one hundred percent Jewish... but utterly smokin! Your hypothetical response was simply marvelous. Perhaps better than the hypothetical article itself.
I especially enjoyed that part about summoning the Messiah by systematically wreaking global havoc. As if such fools would not be on his list of things to do, upon his return!
I especially enjoyed that part about summoning the Messiah by systematically wreaking global havoc. As if such fools would not be on his list of things to do, upon his return!
2005-03-16
FRANCISCO FROM NETHERLANDS said:
There are crazy people in every religion. But not an organization like Al Quaeda with a similar record, supported and financed by Saudi Arabian sheiks whose names are hidden only Allah knows why.
2005-03-15
MOKADDES FROM USA said:
In response to DR. Syed Alwi......
It is true a lot of Muslims do acts of terrorism and criminal intent in the name if Islam, but actually for political reasons. Whereas the acts commited by Christian extremists are done for Christianity.
Does not it taint Christianity directly, whereas those committed by Muslims is more of a shame on the person than our religion?
Infact there it is not Islam which is to blame for the atrocities committed in its name, nor is it Christianity itself which is to blame for the acts committed by the fallen and forlorn and those misled. The article just points it out.
The media is biased and thus will go to any extent to paint Islam and all Muslims with the taint of terrorism. But when one of their own uses the religion practiced by them, they will never refer to the teachings which may have actually given vaunt to such a barbaric act. Even when it is staring them in the face.....
For their eyes are veiled, and over their hearts is a creeping darkness....
It is true a lot of Muslims do acts of terrorism and criminal intent in the name if Islam, but actually for political reasons. Whereas the acts commited by Christian extremists are done for Christianity.
Does not it taint Christianity directly, whereas those committed by Muslims is more of a shame on the person than our religion?
Infact there it is not Islam which is to blame for the atrocities committed in its name, nor is it Christianity itself which is to blame for the acts committed by the fallen and forlorn and those misled. The article just points it out.
The media is biased and thus will go to any extent to paint Islam and all Muslims with the taint of terrorism. But when one of their own uses the religion practiced by them, they will never refer to the teachings which may have actually given vaunt to such a barbaric act. Even when it is staring them in the face.....
For their eyes are veiled, and over their hearts is a creeping darkness....
2005-03-15
PETER FROM USA said:
Jerry: please tell me you are trying to underline this article's point. If you really believe what you have posted then, buddy, I have to tell you I'm glad I converted to Islam and do not in any way whatsoever buy the malarky you are selling. I'm not mad at you, man, I'm laughing out loud. Jerry, come on, this (your post) has got to be a joke.
2005-03-15
JERRY FROM U.S.A. said:
I am a mainstream Christian evangelist and I believe that if they had dig deeper into this suicide shooter and his known contacts, they'd have found al Qaeda cell.
Al Qaeda suicide experience has been introduced to the angry commie cohorts in America. After the facts, we would be learning more of terrorism and I will always think that this act was not domestic but a foreign hand. I believe they used American as a dupe or they converted this dude to the Evil Ones.
Al Qaeda suicide experience has been introduced to the angry commie cohorts in America. After the facts, we would be learning more of terrorism and I will always think that this act was not domestic but a foreign hand. I believe they used American as a dupe or they converted this dude to the Evil Ones.
2005-03-15
MOHAMMAD SYED FROM USA said:
A thougt provoking article. I hope the media reflects on this. The popular media is responsible for generalizing and demonizing minorities as it shows in written and spoken words.
soha
soha
2005-03-15
ABDULLAH HAKIM said:
BISMILLAH. WHAT A FARCE THIS ARTICLE IS. THE BIBLE SAYS A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS A DANGEROUS THING. ANY PERSON WHO CALLS HIMSELF A CHRISTIAN CANNOT COMMIT MURDER AND SAY THAT IT IS OK HE HAS BEEN FORGIVEN. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SANCTION FOR MURDER OR ACTS OF VIOLENCE IN THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST OR PAUL. IN FACT THE NEW TESTAMENT VERY STRONGLY PREACHES TO SEEK PEACE AND PURSUE IT AND THAT IT IS AN HONOR TO CEASE FROM STRIFE.
ON THE OTHER HAND, THE CULT OF VIOLENCE CREATED BY ILLITERATE JIHADIST TERRORISTS CREATES AN ENVIRONMENT OF FEAR AND VIOLENCE. THE TERRORISTS ARE MAKING TERRORISTS OF US ALL - AND THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN. ANYBODY WHO KNOWS THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT WHICH ESTABLISHES CHRISTS TEACHINGS: BLESSED ARE THE MERCIFUL FOR THEY SHALL OBTAIN MERCY, KNOWS THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A CHRISTIAN TERRORIST BECAUSE THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH TO KILL ONE'S ENEMIES UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. IT IS FOOLISH TO BELIEVE THAT IN A MASS DEMOCRACY LIKE THE USA THERE WILL NOT BE ANY NUT WHO BREAKS THE BOUNDARIES OF GOOD BEHAVIOR. GOD BLESS AMERICA FOR ITS DECENCY TOWARDS MUSLIMS AS WELL AS TOWARDS ITS OWN FRINGE LUNATICS WHO ABUSE THE FREEDOMS THEY ENJOY.
ON THE OTHER HAND, THE CULT OF VIOLENCE CREATED BY ILLITERATE JIHADIST TERRORISTS CREATES AN ENVIRONMENT OF FEAR AND VIOLENCE. THE TERRORISTS ARE MAKING TERRORISTS OF US ALL - AND THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN. ANYBODY WHO KNOWS THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT WHICH ESTABLISHES CHRISTS TEACHINGS: BLESSED ARE THE MERCIFUL FOR THEY SHALL OBTAIN MERCY, KNOWS THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A CHRISTIAN TERRORIST BECAUSE THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH TO KILL ONE'S ENEMIES UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. IT IS FOOLISH TO BELIEVE THAT IN A MASS DEMOCRACY LIKE THE USA THERE WILL NOT BE ANY NUT WHO BREAKS THE BOUNDARIES OF GOOD BEHAVIOR. GOD BLESS AMERICA FOR ITS DECENCY TOWARDS MUSLIMS AS WELL AS TOWARDS ITS OWN FRINGE LUNATICS WHO ABUSE THE FREEDOMS THEY ENJOY.
2005-03-15
YAHYA BERGUM FROM USA said:
Concerning the church to which the killer was a member, Jeff Sharlet (co-author of Killing the Buddha: a Heretic's Bible) has written, "...members believe God is restoring the offices of prophets and apostles. [Many members] believe that one can train for one of these positions; and that full-blown prophets abound in every congregation, if they'll just let themselves listen to and speak the voice of God they're hearing in their heads." He also asked, "Is it then so strange to imagine that a member might come to believe that he himself is... a prophet who hears the voice of God others ignore?"
Source: www.therevealer.org/archives/timely_001765.php
Source: www.therevealer.org/archives/timely_001765.php
2005-03-15
DR SYED ALWI FROM SINGAPORE said:
Christians do not claim that the violence they do is in the name of Christianity. But Muslims DO often claim that their violent deeds is in the name of Islam. The IRA does not say that they committ violence because of some kind of a Christian jihad. But in Palestine, the Muslims claim its all in the name of Islam and jihad. So who's fault is it when the world blames Islam for all the politically motivated violence ? Who uses the name of religion to committ politically motivated violent acts ? Be honest to yourself...
2005-03-15
DR SYED ALWI FROM SINGAPORE said:
Firstly, Muslim radical groups claim that what they do is in the name of Islam. Take Chechnya for example. These rebels claim that its a jihad in the name of Islam. But is it ? The fact is that the political independence of Chechnya from Russia has NOTHING to do with Islam. Its merely Chechnyan-Russian politics ! I think thats the difference between Muslim radicals and others. The others do not perpetrate violence in the name of their religion. But Muslims committ violence for a political cause and they claim that they do it in the name of Islam ! Thats the difference. Does the IRA claim some kind of Christian jihad in Belfast ? Absolutely not. Now compare that with Palestine where Muslim groups claim its all for Islam ! See the difference ? Next time think harder before blaming others such as a "Jewish controlled media". Its easy to lay the blame on others but its difficult to do an honest introspection.
2005-03-15
BROTHER ISLAM FROM EAST OAKLAND GHETTO(U.S.A.) said:
Christianpriest,Jim Jones,Gary Ridgeway(who often read his "bible" before murduring raping prostitutes!),Jimmy Swaggart,Jesse Jackson,If we were to use the same "generalization" that they use towards us "they" would be very"angry".
2005-03-15
SAEED KHAN FROM USA said:
This is an excellent example of "imagine the shoe being on the other foot"
2005-03-15
NATONZOR FROM AUSTRALIA said:
Now where have I seen that before...
Swap the word "Christian" with "Muslim" and presto!
Instant Fox News report.
Swap the word "Christian" with "Muslim" and presto!
Instant Fox News report.
2005-03-15
DR MUHAMAD ARIF KASMO FROM MALAYSIA said:
One I have a heated debate with a 'so called a professor" from Southern India who was invited to give a talk on "Dialogue Of Civilisation". I was taken aback when he perssstently reffered "Islamic Terrorist". Since he was from Southern India I rebuke him by saying "Why don't you called the Tamil Elam as Hindu Terrorist? because they are Hindu!!!
2005-03-15
AMIN21 FROM USA said:
I like the article...
It portrays some truth however...
It portrays some truth however...
2005-03-15
