The Crimes at Abu Ghraib Are Not the Worst

Category: Middle East, World Affairs Topics: George W. Bush, Government And Politics, Iraq Views: 5082
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Recent days have been hectic ones for the Supreme Rulers in Washington, D.C. President George W. Bush and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld have ceased their accustomed swaggering, put on their most somber faces, and issued one apology after another for the mistreatment of prisoners by U.S. soldiers and mercenaries at Abu Ghraib prison. Although the government had known about these disgusting, sadistic, and idiotic amusements for a long time, Rumsfeld kept a close hold on the information, the better to brush it under the official rug. (We know that the government knew, because the International Committee for the Red Cross, which made several inspections of the prisons in Iraq, confirms that long ago it "told the Americans that what was going on at Abu Ghraib is reprehensible.") Once the photos got out, of course, more than one kind of hell broke loose, and now the government's top dogs all have their tails tucked shamefully between their legs. South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham warned reporters after Rumsfeld's Senate interrogation on May 7 that "there's more to come" and "we're talking about rape and murder and some very serious charges" against U.S. soldiers and civilian employees in Iraq.

Although Bush says that he is sorry for "the terrible and horrible acts," and Rumsfeld says that he takes "full responsibility," the president continues to express confidence in his defense secretary, and the secretary says that he has no intention to step down. Which is to say, neither of these men foresees bearing any real personal cost whatsoever, aside from the momentary embarrassment, the political discomposure, and the time expended in spinning the issue for Congress and the public. Meanwhile the administration is working overtime to pin the blame on some low-level patsies so that everybody can get on with campaigning for Bush's reelection.

Although no principle stands higher in military doctrine than that the commander bears full responsibility for the actions of his subordinates, neither of these two top military commanders has the decency to resign-not just on account of the prison disclosures, of course, but also on account of the plethora of actions by which they have abused their constitutional powers and brought everlasting shame upon the United States-and nobody is in a position to dismiss them except the spineless Congress, whose members would sooner cut off their arms and legs than impeach Bush for his war crimes.

And make no mistake: plenty of war crimes have been, and continue to be, committed for which these men, along with many other civilian and military agents of the government, bear full responsibility. After all, in violation of the rule the Allies enforced against the Nazis at the post-World War II Nuremburg Trials, they chose to launch an aggressive, unprovoked, and unnecessary war against the Iraqi people, and during the past year they have undertaken to impose U.S. domination on the conquered people by rampant military violence. That many Iraqis have fought back against their occupiers in no way justifies U.S. actions. Everyone has a right of self-defense. What would you do if your country had been occupied by murderous and sadistic foreign troops?

The worst U.S. crimes in Iraq have received far less press than the photos of U.S. soldiers having fun and games with the prisoners at Abu Ghraib-not that the prisoners were anything but terrified by these vile amusements-but the truly terrible crimes have not gone totally unreported, especially in the news media outside the United States.

Last May 11, one of the thousands of such stories somehow made its way into the New York Times. It told how on April 5, 2003, a home in Basra had been hit by a U.S. bomb that exploded and killed ten members of Abed Hassan Hamoodi's extended family. British military officials said they had received reports that General Ali Hassan al-Majid-the notorious "Chemical Ali"-was in the neighborhood. Of course, the attack, which demolished a number of houses and killed twenty-three of their occupants, failed to kill al-Majid. (In the phrase "military intelligence," emphasis should always be placed on the word "military.") But one of the bombs brought an end to most members of Hamoodi's family.

"Ammar Muhammad was not yet 2 when his grandfather pulled him from the rubble and tried to give him mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, but his mouth was full of dust and he died." Seventy-two-year-old Hamoodi declared that he considered the destruction of his home and the killings of his family members to constitute a war crime, and he asked rhetorically: "How would President Bush feel if he had to dig his daughters from out of the rubble?"

How indeed? 

U.S. forces have expended thousands of cluster munitions in Iraq, often in heavily populated places. (In the Karbala-Hillah area alone, U.S. teams had destroyed by late August last year more than 31,000 unexploded bomblets "that landed on fields, homes, factories and roads . . . many were in populated areas on Karbala's outskirts.") The toll among children, whose natural curiosity draws them to the interesting-looking bomblets, has been heavy.

Khalid Tamimi and four other members of his family were walking on a footpath in Baghdad when his brother, seven-year-old Haithem, spotted something interesting, picked it up and examined it, then threw it down. The bomblet's explosion killed Haithem and his nine-year-old cousin, Nora, and seriously wounded Khalid, as well as the children's mothers, Amal and Mayasa.

Last year the whole world learned about Ali Ismail Abbas, the twelve-year-old boy who was sleeping in his home in Baghdad when a U.S. missile struck and the explosion tore off both his arms and killed his parents and his brother. His heartrending photo appeared in news media around the world, as did reports of his anguished cries for help in getting his arms back.

Recently, the ferocious U.S. attacks on Fallujah have yielded hundreds of additional casualties among the innocent. There, as in many other places in Iraq, U.S. troops have fired recklessly and without adequate regard for the thousands of civilians they thereby placed in mortal jeopardy. "I'm sitting at the funeral of my only son, who was killed because of the U.S. Marines' harsh manner in dealing with civilians," Abbas Abdullah told a reporter for the Los Angeles Times. "They shot him in the head, and he died instantly."

In the White House Rose Garden on April 30, President Bush, displaying his usual keen sensitivity, blustered as he often has on the campaign trail that because of the U.S. invasion "there are no longer torture chambers or rape rooms or mass graves in Iraq." The president made this claim even as the whole world's press was featuring photos of the U.S. torture chambers at Abu Ghraib and reporting worse crimes against Iraqi detainees there and elsewhere, including rape and murder.

Moreover, mass graves have been filling up for weeks at Fallujah, for the most part with noncombatants. According to Dahr Jamail's report in The Nation, "two soccer fields in Fallujah have been converted to graveyards." Jamail also reported that "the Americans have bombed one hospital, and, numerous sources told us, were sniping at people who attempted to enter and exit the other major medical facility." Snipers also shot ambulances braving the dangerous streets to bring the wounded to makeshift places of medical assistance.

Along a quiet residential street in Fallujah, nine-year-old Rahad Septi and other children were playing hide-and-seek when the pilot of a U.S. A-10 aircraft dropped a bomb there. Rahad, "little flower" to her father Juma Septi, was killed along with ten other children, and twelve other children were wounded. Three adults also were killed. Jamal Abbas was driving his taxi when the bomb fell. He found his eleven-year-old niece Arij Haki with "the top half of her head . . . blown off." After half an hour of searching amid the devastation, Abbas found his daughter, eleven-year-old Miad Jamal Abbas, "her body bloody and ripped." She died later at the hospital. "There was no military activity in this area," said Saad Ibrahim, whose father Hussein was killed in his nearby shop by the same bomb blast. "There was no shooting. This is not a military camp. These are houses with children playing in the street."

When Daham Kassim, his wife Gufran Ibed Kassim, and their four children tried to escape the hell of U.S. bombing in their neighborhood in Nasiriyah, they stopped on the outskirts of the city at a military checkpoint, where, without warning, U.S. tank crews blasted their car with machine-gun fire, killing three of the children and wounding all the other occupants of the car. U.S. troops, humanitarian as ever, then took the three survivors of the attack to a field hospital, treated their wounds, and let them rest in beds. On the third night, however, the troops expelled them from the hospital to make room for wounded U.S. soldiers. As Kassim relates the story: "They carried us like dogs, out into the cold, without shelter, or a blanket. It was the days of the sandstorms and freezing at night. And I heard [five-year-old] Zainab crying: 'Papa, Papa, I am cold, I am cold.' Then she went silent. Completely silent. . . . My arms were broken. I could not lift or hold her. . . . We had to sit there, and listen to her die."

In Nasiriyah, only Kadem Hashem and his youngest daughter survived when a U.S. missile struck their house. His wife Salima, five of their children, and six other family members who happened to be in the house at the time were killed. Finding a photograph in the debris of his house, Hashem told reporter Ed Vulliamy of The Observer: "This was my middle daughter, Hamadi. I found her burnt to death by that doorway, she had shrunk to about a metre tall." His one surviving daughter, Bedour, described now as "what remains of a beautiful girl," lies on the floor of a relative's house. "She is shrivelled and petrified like a dead cat. Her skin is like scorched parchment folded over her bones. Unable to move, she appears as if in some troubled coma, but opens her eyes, with difficulty, to issue an indecipherable cry like a wounded animal." Hashem dug a mass grave for his family in a nearby holy city. "I collected them all and put them in a single grave at Najaf; my money was burnt, too, and I couldn't afford to bury them separately."

To my knowledge, neither President Bush, nor Vice President Dick Cheney, nor Secretary of State Colin Powell, nor Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, nor Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, nor Under Secretary of Defense Douglas Feith, nor Richard Perle (who has worked for decades at the highest levels both inside and outside the government to bring about the present horrors in Iraq)-not a single one of them has apologized to any of the victims identified in the foregoing accounts.

What the U.S. government did at Abu Ghraib was bad, but what it did to Ammar Muhammad, to Haithem Tamimi, to Ali Ismail Abbas, to Abbas Abdullah's son, to Rahad Septi, to Arij Haki, to Miad Jamal Abbas, to Zainab Kassim, and to Bedour Hashem was far far worse.

Their stories are but a very few of the tens of thousands that might be told if more complete information were available to provide the details associated with the gruesome statistics on deaths and injuries among the Iraqi population. Relatively few of the people slain were "terrorists," Baathists, or even insurgents. Most were noncombatants; thousands were women, children, and elderly people. The military euphemism for these deaths is "collateral damage," but they are actually murders. After all, they did not happen by accident; in the circumstances, they were as predictable as the sun's rising in the east. By choosing to engage in the kinds of military actions that made these deaths inevitable, the U.S. government thereby chose to cause these deaths. The claim that they were not intended has no substance whatsoever.

Bush and Rumsfeld have been busy with apologies this past week, to be sure, and the prison hijinks at Abu Ghraib certainly cry out for apologies, as well as for a great deal of additional effort to restrain the sadists and sexual psychopaths among the U.S. troops in Iraq and to bring some measure of justice to those who have been wronged. Yet this whole mess, its powerful symbolism notwithstanding, has constituted a gigantic distraction from the truly monstrous crimes committed, and still being committed daily, by U.S. forces in Iraq.

Saddam Hussein now languishes in U.S. custody; his government has been overthrown; no weapons of mass destruction existed in Iraq, and therefore "disarming" the Iraqis of such weapons proved unnecessary. In short, the declared U.S. mission has long since been accomplished fully. Why then does the U.S. government persist in slaughtering the Iraqi people?

Robert Higgs is Senior Fellow in Political Economy at The Independent Institute and editor of its scholarly quarterly journal, The Independent Review. He is also the author of Crisis and Leviathan: Critical Episodes in the Growth of American Government and the editor of Arms, Politics and the Economy: Historical and Contemporary Perspectives.


  Category: Middle East, World Affairs
  Topics: George W. Bush, Government And Politics, Iraq
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Older Comments:
PROUD AMERICAN FROM USA said:
Why is it everyone attacks America for standing up for it's beliefs, but when they are in need of help they are willing to accept? Maybe American does need to stay out of everyone else's business and everyone can fend for themselves. You all talk about the way the prisoners were treated, but you neglect to talk about the way Saddam treated his own people in his prisons. If America is so bad, why are so many people trying to get here legally or illegally. Think about it. We do not castorate our women or tell people what religion to believe. Sure, we have problems, but who doesn't. It's unfortunate that we can't just all live peacefully. But, I do not think I will see that in my lifetime.
2004-06-19

DKDK FROM CANADA said:
Terorrism in any shape is never and believe me never justified, whether by inidividuals or by State. I find in Americans's actions a shadow of what has happened in year 2001 in America. Every terorrist justifies his/her action, some do in the name of God, some in the name of 'duty' and some 'just follow the orders'. Do they ever think the value of life as told to us by our lord. Perhaps no.
2004-05-22

AAHMED FROM UK said:
abu bakar al khirid huh ? I guess the Freeper faction is desperate when they pretend to be Arabs. Typical American responce when all else fails.
Laughable and pitiful.
2004-05-19

AAHMED FROM UK said:
Stacy is a fine example of Americans in sheer denial and gleeful approval of terrorism against those of us who arent bible wankers.
She should be sent to Iraq as all war mongering terrorists.
2004-05-18

ABU BAKAR AL KHIRID FROM ARAB said:
abu bakar al khirid
Hello American friends I just want to sent this
message to apoligize for my stupid,racist comment I made Earler About the americans occuping my country. I'm sorry I realized that you are here to help us in our time of need. Just two days ago my village was being attacked by al Qada rebels my mother and sister where both raped right in front of me by al qada men.I tried to stop this. I was beaten so badly that I could not move. But then like an angel,A U.S soldier came and attacked back at the rebels and killed them,I was so happy that my life was saved by an American that I prayed to alla and thanked him for this gentalmen that saved me.
Thank You again U.S
abu bakar al khirid
2004-05-16

STACEY FROM U.S.A said:
I think that if this is what it takes to show the Terrorist community. The real meaning of embarrassment,sadistic,disgusting,idiotic amusements .Oh but wait YOU are the professionals that taught us your wonderful skills ,we are just the students you are the teachers (remmeber) Then Great Job to The United States Of America. P.S (GOD BLESS AMERICA)
2004-05-16

SONIC_FLOOD FROM USA said:
What would you do if your country had been occupied by murderous and sadistic foreign troops?
sadistic as in we worship saten? get real talk to the crazy guys that cut heads off. by the way usa doesnt want iraq, most of us wont to see to crazy people be civil elect a leader so we can get out. Sadom would have you shot if you wrote these thing about him i just wanted to see how the otherside see's things.
2004-05-15

ABU BAKAR AL KHIRID said:
The Americans have always looked upon non-Americans as nothing more than animals.This why they have no qualms about killing women and childred and worse, destroying places of worshoip. President Bush and his cronies should tried for crimes against humanity.Bush would have has labelled Ho Chi Minh as a "terrorist" if he were the President during the Vietnam War. The only way to teach these racist Americans is to kill as many of them as possible just like the Viet Cong and the North Koreans/Chinese did to them.
I call upon all Arab countries to contribute weapons and men to fight the American infidels.
The longer they stay in Iraq the more coffins will arrive in the dead of the night at Delaware airport. Ask the parents of those dead and maimed soldiers: is it worth it?
Question: it is a crime for insugents to kill Americans soldiers? Not when they invaded a sovereign country like Iraq.To these Iraqi freedom fighters the Americans are invaders and occupiers. Pure and simple.
Rgds.
Abu Bakar
2004-05-15

MARYAM FROM USA said:
i just would advise to make dua for those people in Iraq from the torture and pray that Alla swt have mercy on the deads Iraqi people
2004-05-14

ANEETA FROM PROUDLY CANADIAN ;) said:
I'm soooo sick of all you ... Americans making excuses for your cruel and heartless actions. The recent occurances in Abu Ghraib are nothing new. The only thing that surprises me about them is that they actually became a big deal in the media (although, of course, there were attempts to cover them up). Innocent Iraqis are killed and humiliated daily - in their own homes by cruel invaders. 100s of 1000s have lost their lives already defending their country, or doing nothing at all, except being women, children and elderly living in fear. Yet, isolated incidents where Iraqis actually harm an American seems to justify all of this. For the thousands of Iraqis that die, Americans reply "yes, but what about that one American they killed 5 yrs ago?" This is obviously an exaggeration but if you need proof of the ignorance of Americans, just look at some of the postings on this site. Its sickening to see the extent to which you all have become puppets and you seem ready to die for those who have brainwashed you and use you simply as their dummies to fulfill their goals. Most (but not all) Americans need to get your nose outta the air & come down to earth with the rest of us. The planet is not here solely for your convenience to be used and abused as you see fit. The situation seems hopeless and distressful now but Muslims were warned there would come a time when this would happen and there is nothing in the Qur'an that has proved inaccurate or can be disputed thus far. Therefore, as we have been told, Jesus will inevitably return and we will be victorious over the current corruption being spread by the US. All we need now is unity. The plan of attack is to divide and conquer. We must not fall victim to this. We must remain strong and united as God has told us "And hold fast all together, by the rope which Allah stretches out for you and be not divided among yourselves" (3:104). God told us this for a reason. He foresaw the currnet situation & taught us how to (cont)
2004-05-14

ANEETA FROM PROUDLY CANADIAN ;) said:
I would just like to reiterate my view that we, as North Americans are being brainwashed via the media. Society is not becoming increasingly corrupt by chance rather, it is the well-articulated plot by a select few who seek to destroy the purity of Islam. The word Islam itself comes from the word Salam, meaning peace in Arabic. It is not in any way a terrorist religion, but rather, it is one that follows the teachings of earlier respected leaders, such as Moses and Jesus. It is an ignorant attitude to look at facts solely from an American perspective b/c oftentimes- no, everytime, this is extremely biased. We need to recognize what Islam is truly about & its teachings. The Qur'an states that we must fight to defend ourselves, but we must not transgress limits set by God. Islam is presently being attacked whether we choose to perceive it or not. This attack on Islam was not rooted in the attacks of 09-11 but rather, it has been going on for many years. During the Gulf war, the US supplied Iran & Iraq with weapons to kill each other. Many Vietnamese were also killed by US troops with chemical weapons so, why this attack on Iraq b/c of chemical weapons? Is US the only country in the world entitled to any power? No, the reality is war is being waged on false premise. Muslims are fighting back b/c their religion is under attack. It is not presented to us in this way but this is the reality. Use your brain - look back @ history, look @ the teachings of Islam. We are not being presented w/the truth. Our views are being shaped by a very real force that is instilling in us hatred that we may despise one another. If US arrogance & conceit is good for anything, it is for recognizing that there is considerable intelligence in the country & the control that I describe is possible. Please open your hearts and your minds and recognize what is really happening. Iraqi civilians are being killed daily & the US is not even counting the fatalities. We dont regard them as human (cont'd)
2004-05-14

BRIT FROM ENGLAND said:
some amazing opinions have been posted, comparing american killing of children to the recent decapitation video for example! there is no comparison, when the only way to defend americas actions is to compare it to an extreme action of (non-governmental) desparados, "barbarians" that is worrying i think. also there are lots of people angry at canadians, saying "youll feel different when youve had a terrorist attack!" do these people not realise that terrorism is not random, it has a cause by definition, and will always be found in some form as long as there is a cause?
2004-05-14

AHMED ASGHER FROM BAHRAIN said:
Zig wrote:
"What about the the torture of american civilians in iraq? ... why do these so called martyrs hide in schools, hospitals, mosques, and other places that women and children go for refuge?"

Obviously you do not understand the ferocity of war. You just invade a weak country with mega fire-power and expect every single person to bow down to your might. That seems to be the problem with Bush and his ill-advised advisors and you seem to mirror the same ignorance. let me explain a little of the human nature. Nothing to do with being a Muslim.

The weak when confroned by the powerful will go into hiding and will use any feroceous tactic to inflict maximum FEAR and damage to his enemy. Africans would paint their faces with war colours or wear chita head to scare their enemies. others wud cut the head off and send it to their enemy. These are the tactic of the weak who aims to scare not to mention what others refer to as 'suicide bombers'. Yes they hide in places of worship because if the americans bomb mosques then they wud inflame the masses and it wud feed the resistance. so, why are you so ignorant about such reaction when you have so-called experts in your army who shud be fully aware of such warfare tactics. It worries me because:
A) Either they knew of such opposition and ignored the consequences. OR
B) They are idiots.
I believe in A) since they are intelligent and do not care for human rights and how many they kill or maim given what they do at Gitmo, Afghanistan and AbuGharib. Truly a bunch of thugs who deserve what they get. Yet the common man with a heart must come to the conclusion that it is futile to dictate upon another unsavory terms in his own homeland, by force of gun. It just does not work and Israeli army's filthy tactics is a prime example yet the US Army is on record for using the IDF tactics. How low do you want to get?
WAKE UP! GET OUT! ENOUGH BULLYING! ENOUGH BLOODSHED!
2004-05-14

EL KAPONE FROM UK said:
Zig, the jig is up. Just what are Americans doing in Iraq huh ? Could it be that Iraqis dont like being raped and tortured by these animals ?! Seems to mee you're deluded and a morally challenged creature.
GET OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY.
2004-05-14

NW FROM USA said:
This comment is expressly directed towards all of the dissenting "Americans" who feel defensive against the majority of this article's overwhelmingly supporitve responders: WAKE UP. This "war" is about generating wealth for a select few -- and has always been. This "war" is planned chaos in order to acheive the large scale theft of an entire country and its' people. The U.S. "government" is privatizing the military, the country, and lying to you EVERY DAY. Never has there been an administration which is so secretive. This government has no interest in your personal security, they have no interest in the security of the U.S. soldiers. We have not "liberated" Iraq -- we are occupying them, preventing them from rebuilding their own country (why U.S. contractors? -- are we so arrogant to think Iraqis are incapable?), and have strangely turned "Iraqis" into the enemy within one calendar year. Face reality, God does not bless a country which, unprovoked, commits acts of human atrocity, murder and torture. Wealth of any kind is no indication of God's favor.
2004-05-14

ROBERTA FROM USA said:
Please...this is not accurate. Saddam was the one who slaughtered the Iraqi people at his behest. Your perspective is completely backwards and it is only buttressed by your hatred for the United States.
2004-05-14

TEARS OF SADDNESS FROM CANADA said:
lets all pray for peace and lets all of us live in harmony let us not fight no more peace forever lets pray tonight for peace
2004-05-13

THE THINKER FROM CANADA said:
all i can say is god is watching theres no judge but god and im very sad for all the lives lost we must be as one not against each other we all should share this beautiful world god as gaven us im so sad by all the horrific things that is happening in the world why who where and plz never again god never judges why do we its all messed up we all should pray for a free world of happiness and no more fighting exchange it for the love of god god is our healer and we must pray that all in the world people will be happy safe and love the word of god let us pray that no more pain on anyone in the world animals live in harmony even the whales of the oceans live in harmony why not us lets be safe tonight and beleive all in the world will come together and reunite and be safe and happy is it worth all the pain no im saddened wheres the hope faith
2004-05-13

ZIG FROM U.S said:
What about the the torture of american civilians in iraq? What about the the senless decapitation of the the innocent? why do these so called martyrs hide in schools, hospitals, mosques, and other places that women and children go for refuge?
2004-05-13

AAHMED FROM UK said:
Well put Hudd. Say it as it is brother, no need to beat around the bush.
2004-05-13

HUDD D'ALHAMD FROM CANADA said:
I post here to be read by the enemies of Islam and of Canada. Consider this, Canada is a free country, not a subjected democracy to American imperialism. As such, either Canada and her citizens are entitled to their own opinion, regardless that it matches or not USA's state of mind. If Canada would parrot everything USA would say, what else would we be but the 51st state of USA?! Having a different opinion makes us Canada and you, USA. Only because you are more and have more military power doesn't make you right. You are guilty of crimes against humanity, starting with the colonization of the homeland or with the arrival of the goddamned pilgrim fathers! I read, "God bless America, but not Iraq", are you people realy brain-washed to the point that you blabber incoherently an ungodly and unchristian tune? Did not Jesus of Nazareth say to you bastards: "Love your enemies, bless those that hate you and pray for them"? What the hell are you trying to sell us here on the web that Almighty God would consider donkey's bray? Yes, if God was one like yourselves, but God is beyond your human defficiency. You are the enemies of God! Ask yourselves you stray coyotes, "what would Jesus say/do"? Would have he invaded Iraq or would have he prayed and ask forgiveness for the terrorists on the basis,"Oh Heavenly Father, forgive them, for they don't know what they do"? You are crimininals, and the fact that you belong to the so called "civilized world" make you bastards. The true and legitimate followers of Jesus Christ would deny you in an eye blink. Maybe if you would pray for the Iraqis, maybe if you would voice, God bless America and Iraq and let us see together the light that would eliminate our differences and we would establish so so longed peace! Maybe then a process would be started through which these seemingly impossible things could be achieved. But, no, your philosophy is of the overlord! These are the terms, accept them or die! Beautiful philosophy, terrorizing thugs!
2004-05-13

BILL BROWN FROM UK said:
Why is The "Commander in Chief" disgusted at the
actions of his soldiers in the field? Was he not the
one who only last year fully supported a bill
permitting torture and assassination?

Where does the blame lie? Ask a few simple questions...
What sort of command system puts women guards over
Muslim Men? What sort of prison system makes men strip
naked in front of women warders?

You ask about terror. "Do this to the least of my
brethren, you do it to me". J.C. gave you the answer!


2004-05-13

ANDREJS VISOCKIS FROM DENMARK said:
The Iraqi people have been suffering for many years. And although, the crimes against Iraqi prisoners cannot be ignored (and THEY ARE NOT), a civilized Irq will not and cannot be built by the barbarians who are prepared to kill and torture anybody for their IMAGINED cause in the name of God. When has God authorised barbarianism from the Middle Age in his name ?
2004-05-13

Y FROM UNITED KINGDOM said:
The attrocities that we are hearing in Abu Graib are resonating more and more like Autswitz. This is obviously a systematic plan from the top
2004-05-13

AHMED ASGHER FROM BAHRAIN said:
Tony James wrote:
"The beheading of the American civilian in Irak sets an example of barbarian attitud non different from the atrocities commited by the coalittion forces agaisnt civilians in Irak."

Yes, in essence there is no difference, but in substance there is a lot of difference. One calls himself the power of good who has come to liberate and introduce democracy and human rights. It is a super power with civilisation. The others are a band of thugs who care not for any rule except to avenge the death of its own. One can hardly compare the two.

There are so many questions the American public must ask itself before they fall for more lies from this admin. Such as:

1. What was the real reason for invading Iraq?
2. How was Iraq a threat to US security?
3. Were Iraqis a threat to US civilians before this invasion?
4. Was it not anticipated by most thinking people worldwide, that invading Iraq would bring in more violence and terror?

Yet despite all the writings on the wall, Bush and his followers invaded Iraq evn though the UN did not approve, even though Hans Blix himself asked for more time and more patience. The irony is that this Bush has never given up looking for WMD! and in the process he is comitting genocide against innocent people.
Here is a clue. If you want WMD then look no further than Tel Aviv. Plenty there and Vanunu has already testified but NO after Iraq, Bush is looking for WMD in Syria and Iran. The guy in a nutcase. Please: Just get rid of him in the next election and let us all cleanse our hearts of the hatred for ever please.
2004-05-13

MAYA FROM MALAYSIA said:
I am sick and tired of all this war in Iraq and say that americans should get out from Iraq.let them live in peace and build up their own home and land.u better take good care of your own land and people.if you want to do the pornos,do in your land and with your own people.if u want to kill,u better kill each other(among your own people)!! .. you are wasting your time there especially trying to rebuild their country.they are capable in doing so.they are not foolish.just stop giving the pressure and try to live in peace! ..

GOD BLESS IRAQ!! NOT AMERICA!!!
2004-05-13

YAHYA BERGUM FROM USA said:
My graphic skills are limited (as is my time unfortunately) but maybe someone might wish to overlay a leash and a collar onto one of these and include a Chalabi sort of image - as in a political cartoon or something.

www.stratofortress.org

These days the B52 is what the 8th Air Force is flying. The aircraft turned 52 years old in April. Rather obscene looking, isn't it?

As an alternative I suppose one could paste together a picture of some "gauleiter" holding the leashes of a pack of rabid marines or something like that. Who knows?

Again, may Allah be with you always (Ameen).
2004-05-13

ABD FROM MALAYSIA said:
my observation of this mess is that somebody in power is deliberately provoking. there is a big agenda. they are provoking for more blood. everything they do is within their law. others deed is abhorrent. they go to another country, can kill maim but thier own people is sacred. from time immemmorial, only the europeans have colonised, conquered, plundered other countries. not enough with that they still want to impose themselves. the world now would be a better place for everyone, if all those people who are trying to impose themselves return to their countries and mind their own business! look after their own people but I think they will not because they have gone too far unless somebody can instil some sense onto them, but how?
2004-05-13

YUSEF LATEEF FROM USA said:
Where was the outrage in the arab world when the civilian workers were killed and their bodies dragged thru the streets and hung on a bridge in iraq?
2004-05-13

MEBROCKY FROM USA said:
Muhammad - great comment! The facts of this article are true, but it is this kind of rhetoric that only makes matters worse. It elicits comments like those from Geoff. By the way Geoff, I understand where you are coming from, but the fact is we have only been shown a handful of pictures. The most recent headlines: "The abuse of Iraqi prisoners by U.S. troops went beyond the photos seen by most Americans, shaken lawmakers said Wednesday after viewing fresh pictures and video...". Please note the word SHAKEN. Or this just in : ""I don't know how the hell these people got into our army," said Colorado Republican Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell after viewing what he called a fraction of the images." Every single person I talked to recently is horribly disgusted with what has been done. My husband reminded me that in every country, culture, religion, etc. it is not hard to find people to commit such atrocities. He is not American born, and has seen too much war in too many places, and I value his opinion above all others. Excessive nationalism, religious fundamentalism(in all religions)and greed will always start wars, and always keep them going. What is it going to take for people to wake up and realise that this madness has got to stop!
2004-05-13

YAHYA BERGUM FROM USA said:
Dear Iraqia. I am imagining an obscene picture. In the obscene picture (that I am imagining) Ahmed Chalabi is holding a leash. Attached to the leash is a collar. Wearing the collar is the U.S. 8th Air Force. That I imagine would be an obscene picture. May Allah be with you all.
2004-05-13

ABDULRAHMAN BIN HAJI TAIB FROM MALAYSIA said:
Alhamdullilah, at last some western intellectual is brave enough to expose the list of the war perperators (refer to the para that mentioned Bush and his cohorts). However if we are to look deeper into the list we can see that this bunch of hooligans are none other than zionists that has hijacked USA government and America to extend their programs to annihilate Islam by disguising the actions in the name of democracy. These people including the President must be brought to the court of war crime and not dismiss or condone just that they are Americans.
2004-05-13

NATALIE FROM USA, NYC said:
Dana: You are correct in your observation. What the world can see for itself is that America is a culture in degrade. It has slowly, over time, become a country and culture of the deintellectualized and unsympathetic. God is aware and He will see to the conclusion -- unfortunately, America is deep in sleep; you have no idea how stupefied they truly are.
2004-05-12

MARWAAN JUBAILI FROM USA said:
Re Geoff:

As an American Muslim, I absolutely understand your anger and disgust. I have seen the clip and I have to say I am terrified and feeling sick to my stomach of this horrific act of barbarity. Even though Nick was Jewish and he ardently supported an unprovoked war, there's no religion that comes from God justifies butchering him like a sheep.

These criminals can't be Muslims. There is a fundamental principle of accountability in Islam. The Quran states five times that no one should be held accountable based on the acts or deeds of others. See verses 6:164, 17:15, 35:18, 39:7, and 53:38.

In fact, I am very confident that the enemies of Islam are behind these savage acts. How convenient is it for this monstrosity to come up right after the prisoner abuse scandal to deflate its impact? I place all my bets on the Israeli Mossad, or some covert Zionist group. It's very apparent that whatever the so-called "Alqaeda" does only benefits Israel and its amen corner here in the US, be it Jewish neocons or Fundamentalist Christina Zionists.

Unfortunately, the moderate and reasonable people are unwittingly dragged into this down-ward spiral of violence and bloodshed primarily through ignorance.

An average American like you who take all his information (or propaganda) from the Jewish-controlled media would undoubtedly have the same reaction you do, even worse. In fact, the prisoner torture and rape is a result of many decades of anti-Muslim and anti-Arab indoctrination by the Jewish media and Hollywood.

Let's open our eyes and stand up to true enemies of both Muslims and Americans before it's too late.
2004-05-12

TONY JAMES FROM PANAMA said:
The beheading of the American civilian in Irak sets an example of barbarian attitud non different from the atrocities commited by the coalittion forces agaisnt civilians in Irak
2004-05-12

REALIST FROM UK said:
For over 200 years the Americans have managed to sell the lie that they are a decent, fair, civilised country (the 'good guys') and we should all aspire to be like them. In just over a year they have been exposed as the murderers, rapists, perverts, cowards and thieves they have always been. Now it's expected if you are taken prisoner by monsters, you will be interned in a concentration camp then tortured, raped or murdered (sometimes all three). Thanks to bushco amerikkka's real face can no longer be hidden behind empty soundbites like freedom, democracy, human rights.

God bless amerikkka, land of the thief and the home of the slave.
2004-05-12

OLD WOMAN FROM U.S.A. said:
WE MAY NOT KNOW ALL THAT IS GOING ON IN IRAQ. OR ELSWHERE.BUT WHEN WE DO FIND OUT THAT A CRIME WAS COMMITED BY OUR OWN PEOPLE WE DO PUNISH THEM. CAN ANYONE THERE SAY THE SAME FOR THE CRIMES YOU COMMIT?AS FOR OUR YOUNG MAN THAT WAS KILLED BY YOUR PEOPLE,BLAMING IT ON THE CRIMES WE COMMITTED OVER THERE IS FALSE.SOME OF YOUR PEOPLE DONT NEED AN EXCUSE TO KILL INOCENT AMERICANS.THEY JUST USE EVERY EXCUSE TO CONDONE THE KILLING OF PEOPLE WHETHER THEY ARE AMERICANS OR THEIR OWN PEOPLE.MOST OF US HERE WERE OUTRAGED BY THE ACTIONS OF THE FEW PEOPLE WHO WERE IN CHARGE OF THE PRISONERS.IT DIDNT MATTER WHO THEY WERE.BUT BECAUSE THE IRAQ PEOPLE DONT SEEM TO WANT TO RUN THEIR OWN COUNTRY .BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HELPING TO BRING TO JUSTICE THE CRIMINALS OF THEIR OWN COUNTRY AND ARE NOT TRYING TO HELP MAKE IT A SAFE PLACE FOR THE HIRED CONTRACTORS TO COME IN AND REBUILD THEIR COUNTRY.WE HAVE BEEN PULLING PEOPLE OUT AND IT MEANS THAT ITS GOING TO BE A VERY LONG TIME BEFORE THE COUNTRY WILL BE AT A NORMAL CAPACITY.WE ARE BEGGINING TO WONDER WHY WE ARE LOSING OUR PEOPLE EVERY DAY THERE TO HELP A COUNTRY WHO DOESNT SEEM TO WANT TO HELP THEMSELVES.AND THEN WE SOME OF US WONDER WHY WE DONT JUST GO IN THERE AND SHOW THE TERRORRISTS WHAT POWER WE TRULY HAVE,AND TOTALY DESTROY ALL TOWNS OF IRAQ.AND LET THE PEOPLE WONDER IN THE DESERT WITH NO FOOD OR WATER.BUT YOU SEE WE DONT DO THAT .BECAUSE WE ARE AMERICANS AND WE DO CARE ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE.SO WE KEEP SENDING OUR FAMILYS IN THERE TO DIE HOPING THE IRAQ PEOPLE WILL SOON DO SOMETHING TO HELP THEMSELVES SO WE CAN ONE DAY GET OUR FAMILYS BACK HOME WHERE THEY BELONG.,,,,,,,TO THE LAW ABIDDING PEOPLE OF IRAQ I WISH YOU WELL AND HOPE WE CAN AL WORK TOGETHER TO GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK UP AND RUNNING AGAIN..,,,,TO THE TERRORRISTS,,,,HAVE YOU HEARD OF CARMA? HOW ABOUT THE JINN? WE ALL HAVE TO REPORT TO A HIGHER AUTHORITY WHEN WE DIE,ARE YOU SURE YOU HAVE LIVED YOUR LIFE BY THE AUTHORITY OF GOD.
2004-05-12

LAURA FROM MONROE said:
I just have a few comments, what is going on is wrong! That is my view. The U.S soilders that did this to the people, need to be treated the same way, take the pictures and publish them. Then held accountable to the fullest. I also don't think what they did to the American trying to help rebuild was write neither. The majority of American's sign up for the military for free education, most do not want to fight a war and more than half are scared to death of even being there. The American solider that was killed was not hurting anyone, in fact he was trying to help the people there. We are fighting a war and many people are dying for no reason, people of all nationalities. In saying that, I still can't figure out why. I am an White American, with a daughter that's father is half Arabic. I would like to see this end before more innocent lifes are taken. I honestly feel for everyone! Here and there! Rumsfeld needs to Go! This is my opionion. Thanks for Listening.
2004-05-12

RASHAD ABDUL-AZEEM FROM USA said:
Peace,

There should be no question that these pictures are meant to shame and humiliate the Muslim nation of Iraq. The timing of when these pictures where released, right after the US military back off from Fallujah is interesting. However, what is more interesting is that private contractors were given authority to interrogate so-called prisoners.

Since when did private contractors take on responsibilities that should be exclusive to the military?

It is clear that the soldiers who where involved where chosen for their gullibility and light headedness. Now we have President Bush and the US congress trying to put out the fire, but the question must be asked: What has Bush received for his loyal support for Israel? A kick in the butt along with all Americans.
2004-05-12

DAMON FROM AMERICA said:
I'm a student of religion at the University. What I am seeing in the attitudes of Americans is disgust at both the murder of Mr. Burg and the torment that the Iraqis endured. I am conserned, however, that if we get into discussing what caused which we will never get out of the downward spiral of violence in which we are trapped. I'm sure the sollution will not come from torture or murder but from honest dialogue and consession.
2004-05-12

DEBORA FROM USA said:
Basically, as I have been taught an eye for and eye and this mistreatment of prisoners is definately not on equal ground by beheading an individual. I am sick and tired of all this war in Iraq and say we pull out all the troops (our children to say the least!) out and bring them home and build our land up and hope back in the Middle East we leave the Iraqi's/Muslims all there so they can kill each other and if they don't we do it for them!! .. We are wasting our time there especially trying to rebuild their country so they can come back over and fly our planes and kill us! .. We don't need their oil or money!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!! NOT IRAQ!!!
2004-05-12

AAAHMED FROM UK said:
If Iraq invades the US I'm sure most if not all Americans will willingly help the Iraqi military rebuild their nation to Iraq's liking. Most if not all Americans will think working with the occupying Iraqi military will increase their freedoms and bring them security. If any American citizen attacked the occupying Iraqi force you would wholly accept being labelled a "terrorist" for those said attacks.
2004-05-12

YAHYA BERGUM FROM USA said:
Assalamu alaikum. With all due respect, a recent article at news.independent.co.uk did not provide me with nearly the insight into the person of Nick Berg (may he rest in peace) as did an article at www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4953015

A war profiteer (helping villagers make bricks in Ghana)? A supporter of the war on terror (detained and questioned three times)? A supporter of the U.S. administration (his family filing suit against the government for his detention - and criticizing the government upon hearing of his murder)? Supposedly there will be new information about him available later today. Astaghfirullah!

At worst, this gentle person appears to have been guilty of being a believing Jew. Which detainee of his killers' choosing would the U.S. military have traded for him? And whom among the monsters of Abu Ghraib has the loss of Nick Berg's life spared?

I ask that the Ummah not promote its adversaries' deceptions simply because the Ummah finds something embarrassing about the truth. Reflect on Amir Mullah Omar and Sister Yvonne Ridley. What did our brother in Islam, Mullah Omar, avoid early on?

Wassalam wa rahmatullahi.
2004-05-12

MS FROM US said:
For Geoff and other such irrationals.

Why did Americans go to Iraq in the first place.
If someone enforces himself to enter your
home, won't you stop him? If he tries to take command and control in his hands, won't you resist? Isn't your resistance justified? During his stay, he kills and destroys your family members/assets/house, won't you do everything in your capacity to defend yourself, your home and your family members and harm him in every possible way to stop him?

Why this simple thing doesn't dwell in your mind?
Put your feet in the shoes of Iraqis for a second and you may be able to feel the intense pain/sufferings they are going through.

May God protect innocents and may He punish all the tyrants.
2004-05-12

AAAHMED FROM UK said:
Thank you Dana for bringing the simple hard facts that Americans like Geoff hate. Its amazing how irrational these mindless dolts are. I say send Bush worshippers like Geoff should be shipped off to Iraq ASAP. Since they support terrorism, torture and all those other lovely acts which is needed to extend their empire, let them go fight for it instead of trolling message boards.
2004-05-12

ANEETA FROM PROUDLY CANADIAN ;) said:
Muslims are being attacked worldwide as part of a free masonic plot to lead the world into corruption. We have been warned of this group in Islam, termed the precursors to the Dajal. As the free mason symbol consists of 1 eye, so too does the dajal in Islamic descriptions. Muslims are being targeted b/c they are the only grp. that truly refuses to accept the spread of corruption & consequently, this secret society seeks to divide the Muslims (as they are currently doing - sunni vs. shi'i, extremist vs. indifferent) & then conquer. The Bush administration has repeatedly illustrated that they have no reason to occupy the territory and definately have no reason to be killing innocent civilians. Yet since before the onset of the current attack 500, 000 Iraqi children had already died @ the hands of US troops as a result of US sanctions. If we look back @ history we recognize the 100s of countries the US has invaded with fabricated motives. Yet, the world accepts these invasions because we have been conditioned to. Nudity, violence & promiscuity are becoming increasingly tolerable and accordingly, Islam appears increasingly outated. This is the ultimate intent of the free masons and their centuries of experience have rendered them successful thus far. It takes a truly intelligent person to look beyond all the bullshit we are fed in the media & recognize what's really going on, while a truly ignorant person will blindly accept the lies they are fed and convert their ignorance into hatred... & then call themselves Geoff ;)These Muslim countries are constructed in our minds as oppressive and even dangerous but in reality, it is us who are oppressed because they are able to control our minds, which to me, is a lot worse than the supposed oppression that other countries face. We need to unite & research beyond what we are fed to find out what is really going on. If we just accept, we fall victim to a society that anticipates our acceptance and dictates our actions accordingly
2004-05-12

FATIMA RAUF FROM USA said:
I, as an American citizen wholeheartedly agree with the article. But my question in all of this remains, 'To what are we looking for the West?'
What is it we hope to gain from them? Why are we looking for apologies, etc from our oppressors?
If we hope for Allah to help us, then we must first help ourselves. We must proclaim ourselves as Muslims, first; not as Palestinians, Syrians, Egyptians, Americans, Moroccans, Malaysians, etc. All of those descriptions are man made, but Allah Hoo gave us a better description and set up for us a code of living so that we could be successful in both the worlds. Wake up Muslims, It is time to reclaim our Islamic heritage and join together as the Ummah of Rasoolullah (SAS)
2004-05-12

ISLAMINACTION FROM EARTH said:
http://www.ogrish.com/ogrish-dot-com-american_beheading_in_iraq_small.wmv
2004-05-12

ZUBAIR FROM JAPAN said:
Mr Geoff, You wrote; I do hope the US soldiers hurt and behead all those that stand in their way.
You should remember that American Occupiers went to occupy a country Iraq and pretext was Weapon of Mass Destruction!!!!!! Now, I think you are very much clear that it was nothing but a lie of two people, Mr. Bush, the representative of American people and Mr. Blair, the representator of majority Britain............ Did you lost the humananity or feelings of a human? I can just pray that may God guide you to the right path and he may give you a sense of humanity.
2004-05-12

MOHAMMAD ZUBAIR FROM JAPAN said:
I think U.S Crimes in Abu Gharib prison is just a rare picture of U.S and Britain atrocities, inhuman wrongdoings, violations of basic human rights and crimes against Iraqi and Afghan people. After beheaded incident of American in Iraq, U.S government officials calling it enemity of FREEDOM!!!!!!!! And making promises that they will get those responsible..... In my view, American officials just kidding their own citizens. After killing thousands of innocent Iraqi Children, Women, Elderly and other peace loving Iraqis, U.S government officials are making announcements of revenge....... Instead of this, they should witdraw from Iraq so that Iraqis may live in peace and there may not be any danger to American lives any more. But it will hurt weapon manufacturers of Bush regime and Oil traders of United States. So there is an open choice for the American President and American public, Choose peace or select profits of Weapon and Oil Industry. It is all up to President of United States and the people of America. I think it will be far better for United States to admit their mistakes and violation or otherwise they are surely loosing their dignity and honor in the eyes of the peace loving world.
2004-05-12

HUDD D'ALHAMD FROM CANADA said:
Answer to Geoff. The humiliation that we call torture is audited in the "tank" with no chance ever for the American public to view it! You know why? As much as we heard on one of the tapes is the raping of a small boy by American heroes, sodomizing him and the boy is screaming in pain and begging the American barbarians for mercy and calling on Almighty God to end his own life! My question to you Geoff is:"According to what weird philosophy this would be the right thing to do?!" If this is the right philosophy of the American people then rot in hell! All of you American bastards that belong to this philosophy! May Almighty God kill you all in the most horrible way possible for your crimes against humanity! You know what your problem is and the problem of all those fitting your category? You believe yourselves superior to all other races and nations. You believe that the Arabs and all those that are not Judeo-Christians are some subhuman species that need either to be brain-washed into worshipping you or eliminated. Guess what, the Arabs are humans and genetically they are the same breed of Homo Sapiens. As long as you do not treat them as such but rather as subhuman animals you get what you ask for, god-wanna-be punk!
What do I call the cutting off of the American stray dog's head(what was he doing in Iraq in time of war?!)? Mercy and honourable execution! If the terrorists would have scooped to the jailors of Abu Gharib, they would have sodomized him first, display him naked to the Iraqis, make him masturbate and eventually release the dogs on him. Your comment:"But, now I hope that the USA and it's people rise up against all that fight against us." Who the hell is fighting whom, idiot? Isn't the US in Iraq, or is Iraq in US, you confused imbecile? You continue:"I am so angry at this barbaric act of cowards" Oh yeah, I totally agree with you, what your service men and women did to the Iraqi detainees is coward, barbaric and immoral, not fit for the US standards.
2004-05-12

ESTHER FROM USA said:
Well, Westerns were beheaded before the disgusting photoes appeared. Daniel Pearl got beheaded and so did an Italian man. And strangly people could order vidoes of Westerns being beheaded before September 11. One thing is for certain the military is nor orderly since prisoners were abused and the new incident involving Berg occured.
2004-05-12

FRANCIS J. MOLINA FROM USA said:
It weighs my heart with sadness that you, and what appears to be, most of your readers, share such uneducated and thoughtless opinions about the serious nature of what has happened in Iraq recently.

The United States is the big brother to the world providing more money, education, medicine, food and technology that all other countries combined. We have the character to admit our mistakes, hold people accountable and take corrective action when necessary. This is the primary difference between us and the rest of the world and rightly so. Take a look around you right now and see what a ddifference America has made in your life. You would not even be able to use the internet or your computer, take your medicine or get a weather report without the US.

The United States is a dynamic force which single handedly made the most sigificant impact the world has ever known. We are the peacemakers, peace keepers, soldiers, friends of the world. There is a reason no one asks Canada for help, or even cares what opinions they hold - their country lacks the character needed for seriousness.

God has smiled upon the US and made us the most peaceful and prospurous country in the world and it is no mistake. If you don't agree, ask the 4 Million people whom applied for citizenship last year in 2003.

Have a tablespoon of the real truth.

God Bless America
good shall win and the devils will loose


2004-05-12

ROB FROM US said:
I am an American, who is not always proud of what our country does. But, how many citizens of ANY nation can always be proud of thier country and there actions. We all make mistakes and it is how we go about it defines who we are. I respect Islam as I do all religouns. This article is very one sided, I read news from many many different countries to make sure I do not get a one sided article. The beheading of an American civilian is currently not posted anywhere on this site. American news organizations have burned the abuse images into every Americans mind. We are all disgusted and outraged, to say the least. No American will stand for that type of warfare and we will fix the problem and prosecute the ones responsible. Beheading a civilian on video for all to see is not only degrading ones cause to barbarism but creating more hate. Winning the American public over is the only way to end any violence. The beheading taped is as outrages and dispicable as Saddam Hussein and represents the evil in our world.

With all do repect,
Rob
United States of America
2004-05-12

BRUCE SHIELD FROM USA said:
This statement is not so much to the article as it is to the Pinhead Canadians. Rumsfeld swept nothing under the carpet, he is class act and has a Resume that would blow anyone out of Washington. He said under oath he just became aware of them and that is FACT. I am a dual citizen and was slightly bias to Canada until the dumbest most ignorant insulting attacks against the only ones you to defend you sits back and is NOW starting to compare you to France. I think USA Liked Canada as a general rule, but even in your Coke commercials and Hockey Games singing of usa national anthem "booing", I think you better stop throwing rocks as there is already a hole in the relatiotnship. We are all human beings and Canada just so happens to be human also right(?), or is Canada now above the world of humans now and a special form of human with much better qualities and very much close to perfect. Remember now, a month ago I was still bias Canada, even though Craptian's statements. I have had it now though, you people are too cool for USA, and if you get a terrorist attack I hope Bush sends a "Very Sorry, wish you the best, will tell you anything if we find something, otherwise, sink in terrorism alone" and then maybe Canada will require someone that arrives with no documentation, no ID, NOTHING except clothes on to go into the country as that is Canada's Policy, Bill O'Rielly on Fox News talked with the point of contact and that was their answer" We have a border problem, but if someone pulls up to our entry to the country point, they get turned around and I think Canada would pull the car over, talk a bit, and send em North.
2004-05-12

V FROM USA said:
I am ashamed at the barbaric leadership of my country.
2004-05-12

LULU-UK FROM UK said:
To Geoff please don't let anger put a cloud over your good actions. We are witnessing a chapter in humanity where our souls regardless where we live on the planet is being shacken in such a way that we could sometimes lose the big picture. This article reflects the reality that is happening in Iraq. The people of Iraq who were promised to be liberated can surely be a witness to what is happening in their homeland today. I am no supporter of war, war only strips our humanity from us.

God created us with reason and conscious. Those two tools are a blessing from our God. The question now is how can we balance justice in a global world where basically those who do not have power can have an equal say. America is one country among the rest of the human race. What America does also affects the whole of human race.

God told us that if one person is affected the whole of the human race will feel the consequence. This means if one person causes pain the rest of the human race will share that pain. This is exactly what is happening both in Iraq, Palestine, Israel and the rest of the world.

God is testing us and we are the ones who are at the end have the choice to live with peace among the human race or create war and create unnecessary sufferings.

Humanity is the chord that binds the human race. We must treasure that and look after it. Revenge is not an option in Islam neither killings of innocent people. He/she who declares war against humanity will have his/her self to blame.

Please let us bring peace and love before war and revenge to safeguard humanity. Surely if we all think from our hearts rather than our brains life would have more meaning.

Human rights in Islam:
http://www.dislam.org/womaninislam/humanrights.html

Where does man's perfection lie?:
http://www.dislam.org/islamandhumanity/islamtheequilibrium.html

Pearsl of wisdom and justice:
http://www.pearls.org/pearls/humanity.htm
http://www.pearls.org/pearls/justice.htm
2004-05-12

SIRAJ FROM INDIA said:
Its only because of US's desire on the oil wealth of Iraq
2004-05-12

BUDDY FROM UNITED STATES OF AMERICA said:
Read your own "Comment Section Rules". This article has violated EVERY one of them. 1 thru 4 without question. I despise all of the HATE on both sides, but everytime I try to keep an open and humble mind about Islam, and all of the great attitudes and kindness it preaches, I see nothing but total HATRED and contridiction to his preachings from Muhammed's followers. What kind of prophet or god would ENCOURAGE murder and hatred. I know what is wrong with the United States and that is as a country we have kicked ALL religion out of every part of our daily lives. Therefore, we basically stand for nothing and fall for anything.I will close by saying that I do not at all agree with the Islamic practices I see, but atleast Islamic people are on the same page.....They want to KILL EVERYBODY! Islam should clean its own dirty laundry before judging its neighbors cleaning habits. Let's see, HHmmmm....Accidental civilian casualties during war by the US or DELIBERATE BEHEADING from cowardly muslims who distort everything that Muhammed says he stands for. I know he cannot be proud of those followers today. God Bless and pray that ALL religions can soon come together and end this HATRED.
2004-05-12

MFW FROM TAIWAN said:
The time has come for peope to realize the true scope of world politics. Prominant Muslims do not stand up and condemn the acts of terrorists. The common people of Islam continue to get partial misinformation as hate brews in the mosques around the world, the notion that an attack on one muslim is an attack on all will no doubt soon turn into a common feeling in the rest of the world that an attack by one muslim is an attack by all of Islam. The call for Jihad may soon be answered and the true question is, can Islam afford a jihad? I was one of the people willing to believe that the acts were of a select few. As more and more terrorist activites occur, with each one my contempt for Islam as a whole grows and it won't be long before my vote goes to any politician willing to wage war against the greater Islam. Only the people of Islam can remove the radicals from within and its hightime they did. Until they do , Islam as a whole is nothing but a cesspool of evil!
2004-05-12

A.KHAN FROM USA said:
This is on response to GEOFFREY's:
Please read Geneva conventions & Mr. Taguba report.(the soldiers are committing war crimes with the OK of superiors directly/ indirectly- Those involved must be tried for WAR CRIMES including any superior to the topmost.

Invading other country and comitting such things(rape,sodomy,sexual perversions including children(girls and boys,extreme physical torture terrorising women and children in their homes,taking hostages( so called detainees/POW) using veto power in foreign for our selfishness and oil and more......)Who approved these(any religion/any decent civilised country constitution?
Remember somebody is watching you ALLAH-HE knows the best and Has best justice and punishmentfor wrong doers.
Please comment on this.
2004-05-12

MUHAMMAD FROM USA said:
Geoff,

Think it through.... Would the beheading even happened if it had not been for the photos of the abuse of Iraqi prisoners?

Probably not. I think the worst is yet to come and we are going to see atrocities on both sides of this war.

The sincere person will be shocked by all the attrocities; not just the ones committed by the "other side".
2004-05-12

YAHYA BERGUM FROM USA said:
Ya Allah! Why would the U.S. administration exchange Nick Berg (a "pacifist troublemaker") for detainees of the insurgents' choosing? Nick Berg (may he enter Paradise) was himself abducted by "pro-American insurgents" even before getting abducted by anti-American insurgents. Considering what Nick Berg had shown himself to be striving for, his killers have demonstrated the decision-making capabilities of a cruise missile. Why should I assume such people are rightly guided - because they claim to be? (Hail Allah!)
2004-05-12

DANA WAWANDA FROM INDONESIA said:
I just don't understand why Americans are so blind? why they give their children's blood just to full fill Zeonist, Bush, Rumsfeld and all who support these guys ambitions? don't you know that you are being used? for God shake open your eyes widely! why do you support a state terrorism? why do you let your Govt spend your tax for these acts? Don't blame on terror group! okey killing innocent people are wrong but doing somthing that invites terror is worst! start thingking what's wrong with your govt now!
2004-05-12

DAVID FROM USA said:
All the articles on this website do nothing but run down the United States. Not one article about the horrible things these terrorists do in the name of Islam. I see how you think.
2004-05-12

AKBAR KHAN FROM CANADA said:
Geoff is a typical example of the dangerous American psychosis which is a threat to the stability of nations and peoples around the world.

It is obvious that people like him are in the U.S. military and kill people at random and at will because it gives them kicks, or because they are full of insane anger and hatred. The U.S. Military is more dangerous than Al-Qaeda. This is evident from the many studies taken even in Canada which asked Canadians if they see President Bush as being a threat to world peace, and I recall that over 80 percent of Canadians did feel this way. Mind you this is way before the Abu Ghraib pictures were released.

When, I mean IF the videos Rumsfeld spoke about are released, depicting the same and evne more disturbing acts we saw in those Abu Ghraib photo's, what will people like Geoff say then? That they hope Al-Qaeda beheads every American soldier? Twisted, idiotic logic is what I call it.

May Allah'Taala have mercy on their souls.

Wassalaam.
2004-05-12

U.S. CITIZEN FROM U. S. A. said:
This American is afraid to speak up against the terrorists who now run the White House. Clearly this administration has ushered in the Fourth Reich and we may now be at the dawn of the second holocaust. American mercenaries are called "Contractors" and victims are called objectives. It's a shame that the Islamic world does not realize that it's not the American people they should strike out against -- not even the American soldiers who mindlessly do as they are directed -- but rather those who have crafted this policy of death, distruction, and disception.
2004-05-12

BARBARA FROM USA said:
It is time that Americans stop being the nice guys. We have always tryed to treat people with kindness. Our money from the American taxpayer has helped just about if not all of the other countries at one time or another. It is time that Americans started fighting back. We need to keep our money and just let the rest of the world fight it out and if they kill each other then so be it. Everytime we try to help it always gets thrown back in our face. Well this is one American that is feed up with the "I hate Americans". OK so a few prisoners got their pride hurt. So what! If they were any kind of a human being they would not have been in prison in the first place. Oh sure it is OK for them to invade and kill us but if we mess with their "PRIDE" they start screaming "you hurt our PRIDE". Give me a break. When is Americans going to get feed up and tell the rest of the World that want to KILL each other to go to HELL! If we would of just let them kill each other then our Gas prices would not be going thru the roof. And if we let them go at it long enough and they totally wipe each other out then we "Americans" could have all the gas we wanted. All we would have to do is move the dead bodies and get the Oil to make gas. They were not complaining about the men, women, and children that their leader was killing, but when we step in and help, now all of a sudden they start complaining about the men, women and children that are being killed by our bombs. Well war is hell and when you go after the bad guys the good guys sometimes gets killed. Just ask the moms and dads of out service men and women that have been killed over there. If you do not want to get killed get the hell away from the fighting and let our Service men and women clean out the bad guys and then you can come back to live in peace. Unless you then start fighting amoung yourselves and our Service people will have died for nothing. Bush for God sakes stop saying you sorry. Because I am NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2004-05-12

YAHYA BERGUM FROM USA said:
Am I to understand that a human shield has been brutally murdered for the crimes of child-raping monsters? I think it ironic that Nick missed his ride out of Iraq because the U.S. Army had placed him in detention - preventing him from escaping to Jordan with the other international peacemakers before Easter.

Perhaps as Nick Berg (may he rest in peace) unfortunately did, his killers might outlive their usefulness to the locals. As for myself, my quarrel would only with those who promote brutality and oppression - regardless of what they call themselves - insha'Allah.

Allah hafiz wa barakatuhu.
2004-05-12

MADMAX FROM MAGHRIB said:
Reciprocity is what the US administration is asking for, since it's the only way they can possibly understand. Their human face exists only in dramatic Hollywood films. They have proven to the world over and over again that they are indeed the lowest form of life. Killers, greedy, and especially HYPOCRYTES.
2004-05-12

RICHARD FOSTER FROM USA said:
Why don't you show a side-by-side photo montage of soldiers posing for photos in front of naked prisoners and a tied-up, innocent, young man having his head slowly hacked off by five men in the name of Allah. Why don't you play the beheading video on your website?

Americans really do try to understand the plight of the Palestinians and Islam in general. However, we watch in disbelief the willful slaughter of innocent people in the name of a religion (WTC, Madrid, etc., etc.). We wonder what kind of god could condone such acts? We wonder why men of morals and religious leaders do not publicly condemn these barbaric acts for the shame they bring to Islam. The entire religion is complicit by its silence.

Also in your article, why no mention of the good things that are coming to the Iraqi people? Schools, hospitals, commerce, legal system... all better now than under Saddam. And things will continue to improve over time.

Acts like the broadcast beheading in the name of Allah, and the silence from the Islamic world that follows, only tends to reinforce the civilized world notion that Islam = Evil.
2004-05-12

BNAK said:
Shame on you Geoff! Just imagine, if the beheading of one American can anger you to the extent that you say, the US Soldiers should cut and behead every Iraqi that stands in their way, what then should be the reaction of an Iraqi who sees daily horror of their women and childrens dead bodies, some having no arms, some with no legs, some with no heads. Tell me for God's sake what should an Iraqi who's eyes see the daily horror perpetrated by the American forces should do?
Would he not feel the same anger as you are feeling with just one beheading? I am not justifying this heinous act, if it indeed was committed by the Iraqis, then it's deplorable. BUt you need to Just remember that when your cluster bombs cannot distinguish between combatants and civilians so would an angry and agitated Iraqi on the street. You are a hostile enemy in an occupied land and an Iraqi bent upon revenge for humiliation suffered at the hands of your troops, he sees no distinction between a civilian American and an American soldier, both are to him enemies and he would surely take the brunt of his anger on the enemy given the situation.
Instead of condemning the act of Terrorism in general, you would exhort your soldiers to just kill and maim everyone in their way, you are a disgrace to the human race Geoff. Shame on you!
2004-05-12

PEACE NOT REVENGE FROM CANADA said:
As being a canadian citizen, i'm ashamed that our Neighbours USA have done such terrorist acts in every prison cell, may it be ABU G. in IRAQ, Guantanamo Bay in Cuba or right in their home in the USA. i've come to know that they do the same in their homes to all races,religions & citizens. For the U.S, they have no difference.For them its they are HUMANS & The rest are ANIMALS!So sad that their allies don't see that USA treats them as animals too. Infact,USA is an animal they would attack anyone,may it even be their allies!Ah, reminds me Iraq was their "so-called ALLIE"!They used Iraq as their puppet to make war against Iraq's own arab states/muslims.The same they are doing with the Shi'as & Sunnis.The U.S.A.is creating friction between the two sects which simply have 3 main differences and nothing else.I dont have to say anything.Everything is known in humane & just medias who release the right reports & the WORLD does know the TRUTH. Lastly,to one of the comments on the board: Why do people butcher others? Perhaps,they are oppressed?they have no other means to deal with their pain?Please differiante between bullets & stones (REF: ISRAEL-PALESTINE). I don't use the words "Extremists" or name people's religion to point at FEW radicals who are out of line!! WHAT HAS RELIGION got to do with some people.We never named the IRA in Ireland "IRISH CATHOLICS OR CHRISTIAN EXTREMISTS" or all that sort to all around the world killers?
A good read: please read John Pilger's articles ,thanks.
2004-05-12

JANIS FROM USA said:
It's hard to take the moral high ground when people invoke the koran to maim, kill, mutilate, burn and decapitate innocent people.
2004-05-12

OMAR FROM USA said:
Geoff,

Hopefully your misguided comments are due to emtion and not logic. Surely, you can't equate the actions of an group of fundamentalists with the behavior of a professional and accountable army. Else, I feel sorry for you and if enough others feel the same and ratchet up the violence quotient abroad, it will only result in more innocent lives being lost. How could you possibly want that?
2004-05-12

GEOFF FROM USA said:
You print that Bush and Rumsfeld are sorry for what I call humiliation, you call torture. But what is it called when you cut the head off of a human person. Well, upi till now, my views were one of non- violent. But, now I hope that the USA and it's people rise up against all that fight against us. Yes US. I am so angry at this barbaric act of cowards, I do hope the US soldiers hurt and behead all those that stand in their way.
2004-05-12

TRACY FROM USA said:
The whole mindset of the Bush Addministration is more like a Hitlar mindset than anything that comes close to what the American people have. I know this sounds stupid because, if so, how did Bush get to be President. Truth is, is that our media is iffected by greed, and just like terrorist or a virus, finds a way, so to does the crooked politician, who only care about money and power. We people of this Earth are all victoms of greedy people, and terrorism is some peoples answer. Which is making things worse. Complete exposure of the power grabing greddy is the only way to fix this problem. The actions of some, create a reaction of others, and almost always, that reaction is worse. The fuel to keep these actions, and reactions must be stoped, for anything good to start to happen. Someone "must" yeild. No matter what. Or this type of pain and horror will keep going and going. The world and our children's future depend on it. If I could give my life to stop all the greed and it's ugly disregard for humanity, I would without a second thought. But those who fight greed with terror, only envoke a respone to the terror. American's are not without our creeps. We have more people in our prisons than any other country in the world. We are not any better than an extreem mix of many different types of people in one country. But we do have laws, that need to be enforced. and you are right, the big government is at this time run by greed, which makes those of us whho have eyes to see beyond the fog of patriotism, are mad, and sick to our stomachs at this Bush greed government. I say to all that are suffering and who have sufferd from this greed war, I as an American, and more importantly, as a human being, "I am so so so sorry!" I wish I could do something! Speaking up and telling the truth is a start. I hope.
2004-05-12