America the Destroyer

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Look at what America has become. We are moving on steel treads across a harsh landscape as a creature of destruction, kicking up clouds of unreality through which we see illusions of our efficiency and virtue.

The prodigality of our nation's claims for itself is staggering. We can decide alone when the use of overwhelming violence is justified. Before the onslaught of our weapons, enemy resistance will be nil. The display of ''shock and awe,'' an unprecedented bombardment aimed less at human beings and buildings than at the human imagination, will bend the world to our will. Unlike all previous powers in history, we can wage war humanely. Our success will be so complete that no other nation will challenge us -- or imitate us. The time for complexity is past: You are for us or against us. Either way, your world will be a far safer place when we are finished. Those who opposed this war will sheepishly return to the fold, the flock of our dominance. We are so good.

Young Americans in uniform are now dying for this cloud of illusion -- dying of it -- and so are Iraqis of all ages and stations -- uniformed and naked. When the dying begins, the arguments leading up to the war cease to have resonance. Who is debating anymore the hazards of intervention, the relationship of ends and means, the question of whether Saddam Hussein is Osama bin Laden's partner or nemesis?

Those who opposed the war on the grounds that its good effects would be outweighed by unintended disasters -- chemical attacks, oil wells aflame, riots in the street across the globe -- are now in the position, only, of praying to have been wrong. Those who opposed it more broadly, as reckless hubris whether successful or not, are still saying no without waiting for outcomes. Yet all are braced today for the Battle of Baghdad, hardly breathing.

Americans overwhelmingly support this war -- but do we understand it? The bombardment that has already been carried out, for example: more bombs already than in the 40 days of Desert Storm. Assume for a moment that civilian casualties have indeed been kept to a minimum by precision weapons. Still, what are we seeing through the lenses of news cameras mounted on hotel rooftops on the ''safe'' side of the river? What do those far off raging fires actually signify? Set aside moral and political abstractions that differentiate Baghdad from Washington to focus on the merely physical effects of such bombing.

If Washington were the target of a ''shock and awe'' campaign, the US Capitol would now be rubble, along with that entire parade of becolumned federal buildings astride seven blocks of Pennsylvania Avenue. The White House a smoldering ruin (like Camp David -- and the Bush ranch house in Crawford, Texas). The Pentagon a fetid sinkhole, in-rushing waters of the adjacent Potomac River having snuffed the burning abyss. The vice president's residence at the head of Embassy Row in ruins. Bolling Air Force Base and Andrews Air Force Base on the Maryland side of the Potomac aflame. Fort Myers and the Navy Annex on the ridge of Arlington, Fort McNair in Southwest Washington and the Marine Barracks in Southeast, the Naval Hospital in Bethesda, and Walter Reed Hospital in far Northwest -- all on fire. CIA headquarters in McLean, Va., a smoking scar on the landscape.

Such is a ''limited'' campaign, targets chosen ''humanely'' according to a strategy of ''decapitation.'' We can leave until later the question of who and how many are dead and wounded.

And what, exactly, would justify such destruction? What would make it an act of virtue? And is it possible to imagine that such violence could be wreaked in a spirit of cold detachment, by controllers sitting at screens dozens, hundreds, even thousands of miles distant? And in what way would such ''decapitation'' spark in the American people anything but a horror to make memories of 9/11 seem a pleasant dream? If our nation, in other words, were on its receiving end, illusions would lift and we would see ''shock and awe'' for exactly what it is -- terrorism pure and simple.

American broadcasts are full, already, of the language of glory and eventual triumph. But the firmness of assertion suggests uncertainty. Are we the new masters of morality, imposing our order on a world that will someday be grateful? Are we victors, at last, over self-deceit and pride, crushing opposition only because it forces us to? Have we overcome the tragic momentum of mechanized violence so that at last it can be used humanely?

If so, the glory and triumph are right and just. If not, then when the clouds of illusion finally do lift, our claims will be seen for what they are: vainglory and triumphalism.

Source: Boston Globe.


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Older Comments:
JESSE ANDERSON FROM CANADA said:
this is to dude:
hi, in your statement your said quote "those damn terrorist which i might add come from iraq and afghanistan none of this would have happened" and that it's not bout oil. huh, dude don't make me laugh. it's about more than oil. and those so called damn terrorist weren't from afghanistan and iraq!! so please get get your facts straigh...k
2003-04-06

DUDE FROM USA!!!!! said:
... AND U SAY " ITS FOR THE OIL" HAHAH I F WE WANTED OIL WE WOULD HAVE TAKEN IT IN THE GULF WAR ...WE WOULDHAVE KUWAITS AND IRAQS...THIS IS A WAR ABOUT LIBERATION ...TO FREE THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ AND PREVENT ANOTHER SEPTEMBER 11TH .....AMERICA THE DESTROYER OF ISLAM OF CIVILIANS ......!! IF IT WASNT FOR THOSE DAMN TERROSISTS WITCH I MIGHT ADD COMES FROM IRAQ AND AFGANISTAN NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE EVER HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2003-04-04

ZARGHAM AND FAISAL FROM AMERICA said:
America is against islam thats why he want to destroy all islamic states.We all think that this is the last war of America because same thing happened to Russia and history is repeating and America has played a dirty war.We pray that America may lose the war.
2003-04-04

JOANARC FROM USA said:
In reply to Michael's comments "I dont think that America is desroying Islam I just think tha ..." --- Even if Saddam had left Iraq, America would have found some other reason to wage this war. It simply had to be done. This war is about 1) Oil and 2) Redefing the Middle-East region to suit America's perspectives. Everybody the world over knows this:-) Funny people, we are:)
2003-04-04

GABRIEL DE LA FUENTE FROM MEXICO said:
on spanish i prefer
Mxico tiene gran tristeza por el padecimiento del pueblo de Irak, estamos con ustedes, con todo el que sufre por el sometimiento de las armas, llamese como se llame. Nos oponemos a la masacre que cae sobre su pueblo, nos indigna la actitud del gobierno de USA, al amenazar al resto del mundo arabe, Dios es grande, y un da llevara la justicia. Dios nos bendiga a todos y nos proteja.
2003-04-03

PARVEZ FROM ENGLAND said:
This is part of a bigger picture, I agree with most ofthe article and comments regarding the same. A hight percentage of the sucide bombers of 911 came from Suadi Arabia, The US does not want to a) Rely on Suadi Oil anymore, b) It wishes to have a dominate role in the middleast for the next 20 years, to protect oil interests.

It's rather interesrting, a good guy always needs a bad guy to look good, Saddam/Iraq just so happens to fit the bill.

I totaly agree, the United Nations only works in favour of the Permenant Members this whole incident has shown this. If the permenant members don't get their vote by black mailing or bribing they gohead and act unilatarily. All this shows the world "might is right" I would suggest all other members to resign in protest. In particular all Muslim countries should unite and form thier own United force with the Russians,Chinese & French. The USA- or should I call them United States of Aggression need to be stopped.

2003-04-03

DAVID FROM USA said:
I do not really support this war and it saddens me to hear of civilian casualties. Surely peace is infinitely preferrable to any violence at all. I only hope that the Iraqi civilians stay safe and no abuse is done to them. There is already too much hate in this world.
2003-04-02

MICHAEL FROM USA said:
I dont think that America is desroying Islam I just think tha tthis war wouldnt be happening if Saddam Hueisan would have just dissarmed and then just left Iraq.
2003-04-02

SIDEEQ FROM NIGERIA said:
In fact,it is a pity how the terrorist lunch violent and fatal attack on Iraq.My comment is that the role played by UN is of great help to America because having almostly disarmed Iraq and left her with little or no weapon to resist and fight back America,America struck Iraq and embark upon genocide of Iraqis while UN folded it arms and left Iraq in a great mess.To be frankly candid, I kick agaist the recent disturbance of world peace that America has just started and sooner than later she would crush and reduce to nothing in the Migthy name of God.
2003-04-02

GUS M. SHIHAB, ESQ. FROM USA said:
I would like to address Chris' comment. Unfortunately Chris, you are misinformed. The coalition wants to occupy Iraq to seize its natural resources. If it is freedom that the coalition is seeking, why don't they address the plight of the Palestinian people? Why don't they also seek a regime change in Syria? I have one answer for you: thet have no oil.
2003-04-02

MC said:
i agree with the writer of this article,
amerika is the greates destroyer of life, freedom , religions and human rights so that makes amerika the satan in real in this world that must be destroyed by other countries , so it can have a chance to go furter with his satans plans . im just a man with an opinion, i pray to allah that he will bound over the casualties that has and will fallen in this unfair and unlegitim war that satan amerika has begun.
2003-04-02

KATIE FROM UNITED STATES said:
For those who are against the war I pose a question.

If this war is being fought to save those who are being killed by Saddam Hussein, why is it permissable for the United States to kill these same people?

If you wish to respond, I would ask you not to talk around the question with political rhetoric to characterize the United States as the valiant hero and Saddam Hussein as the villian-war is not your favorite show on Saturday Morning Cartoons.

I am only asking about the significance of those lives lost. Why is it a travesty for them to be lost under Saddam Hussein and not a travesty if people are killed by United States Warfare.

If you can't answer that question without involving the dichotomous oppositions of "Iraq or the United States" then perhaps you should ponder further the "humane" foundations of this war.

Respectfully Submitted,
Katie
2003-04-02

DR. MUAHAMAD ARIF FROM MALAYSIA said:
Thank you for the article. American may win the battle, but never the war.
2003-04-02

CHRIS FROM CANADA said:
I would chose USA's morals over Sadman Hussein's morals anyday anytime.
If i was an Iraqi.. i would be honoured to have the gift of freedom soon to be given by the coalition ( and yes.. we have a few CAnadian soldiers fighting for the cause). I just hope another Iraqi doesnt blow it for the Country.
2003-04-02

GUS SHIHAB, ESQ. FROM USA said:
I would like to answer Mr. Anderson's comments. Unfortunately, you are mixing apples and oranges and are devoid of any logical reasoning or even common sense. If you are going to post a note on such controversial topics, you might at least try to exercise some diligence on understanding the facts. Having said this, I feel that it is my duty to educate you: Islam and Muslims are not one in the same. Islam is a faith. Muslims are individuals who claim to embrace that faith. Many leaders in the world have hijacked religion and have committed atrocities and genocide in the name of this religion. The inquisitionist priests killed hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions in the name of Christianity. Hitler was a catholic and killed millions. Does this make Christianity a horrific religion?

Please do not post any more comments unless you truly want to generate useful and meaningful debate.
2003-04-02

ZARIFE FROM PHILIPPINES said:
There are a lot of American-muslims living peacefully in America. I don't think Muslim countries should oppose America as a whole.
2003-04-02

RAJAWALI FROM TEGANU said:
'u want to know why? coz God doesn't like the destroyers'
2003-04-02

COLINS FROM USA said:
Ayesha and Ahmed,

You are both of a view that I am uniformed and ignorant. I beg to disagree. I don't trust anyone or any ideas that have absolute authority over anyone. And I am most certainly not a slave to history. Our past failings are opportunities for us to learn, forgive, and look for ways to build a united world. Our only common interest in this world is we all want to take care of our children with dignity, and equitable opportunities to prosper in that enterprise. Or shall we continue to have children as fodder for wars?

Indeed, I do have compassion and understanding for the plight and history (recent and ancient) of the Palestinians. The solution I wish to seek is permanent and productive. There is no thought in my mind for solutions that involve the destruction of any people. No one can pollute my mind with such ideas.

Ahmed if you can understand that the 'guns' I speak of is metaphor, then we have made progress
2003-04-01

LAURA TABOR-HUERTA FROM USA said:
Americans do not overwhelmingly support this war. Initially 65% did, but within a week or so the rating of approval went down to 35%.

I am very sad to be a U.S. citizen right now. My government is not doing anything I can be proud of-I condemn it's actions.
2003-04-01

JOHN ANDERSON FROM UNITED STATES OF AMERICA said:
I would like to ask a very simple question , why does islam claim to be a peaceful religion when in fact almost every islamic leader calles for a "jihad" or so called holy war on the " infadels" or americans and people of the west ? are you so short sited and ignorant that you do not recognize the horrible atrocites that your backwards leaders such as the tyrant sadamm hussein and osama bin laden have done to there own people in the name of islam ? how is that peaceful ? would you say that hitler was peaceful ? america learned a powerful lesson from ww2 . after ww1 germany was in the same place modern iraq is in today accept we did nothing to enforce the sanctions placed on that country and as a result tens of thousands of people died in ww2. no we will not sit by and watch a murderous villan like sadamm go un punished and be allowed to hurt more later .a pound of cure is worth an ounce of prevention. and if islam is indeed peacefull as you say it is you would condemm hussein for his atrocites. but you dont you run to his side proclaiming more atrocities in the name of islam. you people make no sense.and i will leve you with this, we will never quit. we will never faulter, we will win and america will prevail. . sighned angry [email protected]
p.s. i look forward to your rebutle on this matter , i cant wait to hear your excuses
2003-04-01

RUKAIYAH SULAIMAN FROM NIGERIA said:
America is the Sole initiator of every evil that happens in the World including the training of the same people he now wants to eliminate.America entered into Iraq under the guise of destroying Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, which they assisted Iraq to build with the hope of using them against Iran, God in his infinite mercy ended the Iraqi-Iranian war and it dawned on America that one day the weapons may be used against their beloved Isreal who are daily slaughtering the Palestines.It is common knowledge that America is controlled by the Israelites.

I wish to extend my sympathy to all conscious muslims across the Globe for the evil America is visiting on our brothers and sisters. Let's find consolation in the words of Almighty Allah(SWT)that says "Allah is sufficient for us & He is the Best Disposer of affairs" Q3: VS173; And grieve not over them & be not distressed because of what they plot. Truly, Allah is with those who fear Him & those who are good doers. Q16:VS127-128. They are planning and plotting but surely Allah is the Master Planner and He will never abandon those who truly belive in Him.
2003-04-01

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2003-04-01

YAHYA BERGUM FROM USA said:
May Allah reward each of us for our good deeds and our good intentions and may Allah have mercy on all of us. It seems, to me, that America had already spawned unacceptable situations in 1991 CE - more so than in 2002-2003 CE. Economic sanctions, I think, are worse than war. Allowing Iraq's current regime to control all of Arabia even now seems like a bad idea, even if America could get its oil at lower cost to itself. Hence war still seems preferable to what appear to be the realistic alternatives (Astagh-Ferullah).

Also, I am still learning, Insha'Allah. On that note, with regard to learning, has some sort of potential for Arab or Persian Shiite domination, within Iraq, presented obstacles, in the past, to international or perhaps regional support of attempts to secure changes in Iraq's leadership? Would the majority of Iraq's citizens wish for their nation to remain unified? Would they want a secular form of government? Would they prefer their government, generally speaking, to promote:
1) Consensus, or
2) Compromise?

I'm not quite sure what I'm saying in the following suggestion but I do want to see Iraq on the correct road. Depending on how Allah wills the current war to end, perhaps those who are located in the region and who wish to prevent a "mess" in a post-war Iraq might consider expressing their concerns to those who have sided with America from the very start. I currently don't expect that America's leaders will trust those who opposed this war - that is, trust them to prevent the problems that arose after 1991. Regardless - in my ignorance of regional concerns (and beyond my simple desire to see brutal conditions remedied) - I mean no offense.

May Allah bless us all.
2003-04-01

M JUSUF FROM AUSTRALIA said:
In the name of Allah, I am working to take down this Dajjal, And bringing back the unity of the Islamic Ummah. May Allah guide me. Amin.
2003-04-01

MIKE HALE FROM USA said:
The cloud of illusion was not the Pentagon burning and the collapse of the World Trade Center. Those were realities and it is the United States Government's responsibility to its citizens to stop those atrocities and others that are or have already been planned for America.
The author makes a living being a peace protester and that is his right in this country but he should not pretend to be neutral. And his views and descriptions of America are clouded by a very radical judgement of the American society.
It is the author's opinion that there is a peaceful solution to every problem on the planet, and fortunately most of us can ascertain that at some points in time military force is required.
And if it is required it is the responsibility of those that command that it is used to achieve victory with as limited number of allied casualties as possible. The second goal is to limit the amount of casualties of the civilian population and opposing forces as is humanly possible. But the goal is to achieve victory.
Semper Fi
2003-03-31

MARIAN MUSSE FROM USA said:
I strongly I agree with article and pray for an end where both sides do not lose more civilians and soldiers.
Salam, Peace
2003-03-31

BARAQ CHAGAR FROM USA said:
As a Yeshuan Christian, I cry with the plight and needless misery of the oppressed Islamic people in Iraq and elsewhere, especially Palestine and Kashmir. I lived in Kashmir for 8 months and discovered the beauty of frienship with the Muslim people near Udhampur and the easy unity with open minded Christians there. Our common bond of faith in the Lord God of Abraham uniquely joins us. My prayer is for peace to come as it has with Garhi Christian Fellowship which freely receives all Muslims with a gentle spirit. It is essential that the insanity of Satanic Americans in leadership be twarted, we must pray for the removal of men as Mr. Bush and his Cabinet officers who took blood oaths to murder in such college cult fraternities as Yale's "Skull and Bones Society". Mr. Bush and his father both made oaths to pursue witchcraft and are now conducting ritualistic pre-meditated murder in obedience to their oaths. I am so deeply ashamed that Bush junior declared himself to be 'Born Again'; since he made no attempt to peace as Yesu/Jesus had commanded. Mr. Bush has not repented of his sins and is not walking upright.
The greed, filthiness, lawlessness, pornography, abortion, drunkeness and corruption of Western society and the imposition of sin in every city of the world are his goals.
He has with joined the enemies of God-fearing people of our faiths to install a corporate commercial government in Iraq and ultimately in every nation if he can. He will sacrifice innocent people and their clean cultures and family structures to prostitutes and interest charging bankers. Look at the low character of their troops. They carry the stench of their unbridled lust and refusal of charity and truth.
I know that every godly Muslim and every godly Christian with join hands and bow to Our Holy Lord God. We differ in whom we honor of both who represent Him, but no difference in that we each must put forth peaceful effort to be the friend of God as Abraham was. Let us seek our G
2003-03-31

AN AMERICAN FROM UNITED STATES OF AMERICA said:
On your article titled America The Destroyer i have this to say to the writer, we are over in your country to save you. BE GREATFUL. Are you sick in the head we feed you people!!!!! Dont be dumb. I understand your leaders brain wash you and threaten you but america is here to save you. we are not destroyers we are helpers. You ask for our money time and food and then complain make your damn mind up!!!!!! After we destroy your government we are going to rebuild you and make you better. I know your under presure and i am sorry your people are dying but after this life will be better.
2003-03-31

AYESHA FROM UK said:
Colin:
You will be surprised to know what real jihad is...............It is between you and yourself only. trying to be the best that you can in terms of sincerity, love etc etc. You make some really good points but I really hope that a person of your intelligence will one day realise that the palestians are being oppressed im not sure if you really know what is happening in places like palestine. This is why nothing is being resolved because people are not shown the truth I have looked into media studies and its a powerful tool to sway the opinions of the masses why do you think the USA bombs the TV stations first when they are in a war situation. I mean I could go on an explain but im getting fed up of people who dont know what is going on !!! all im going to say on this issue is that whatever hitler did to the jews their doing similar things to the palestinians and the world watches it happen because in a way we are de-sensitized to suffering and pain because its just one of those things that is always on our tv screens. May god show all of us the truth and give us the love and understanding to live with all at peace.
2003-03-31

JOHN NORMAN FROM UK said:
Abdul Wahad: Shalom aleichem.

Regrettably, Islam has been just as aggressive as any other religion. It's about time that Muslims recognised this fact. As an American, you could do no worse than read the American Historian Will Durant's comment that the Muslim conquest of India was the bloodiest conquest History has ever known.
2003-03-31

BOBBY FROM USA said:
the poll's are so manipulated and rigged.......most american's do not support this insane brutal war.....george bush and friends are so out of control.....george bush does not speak for me or represent me.......i am so ashamed of the actions of this demonic administration........and i pray for the soul's of Islam that they may be comforted in the after life and be rewarded and norished by The Compassionate One!......we as a "Christian nation" have failed again misserably in setting an example to the rest of the world in choosing other methods of diplomacy.....i am so ashamed...........the materialistic spell has consumed the will of most americans...they are asleep and drugged by the media through cnn and fox via the cia......Lord have mercy!!!!Forgive us for we are ignorant!
2003-03-31

AHMED FROM MOROCCO said:
Colins
how much you know about the history of the midlle east.for God's sake stop blaming Palestinians out of sheer ignorance.
The Palestinian can indeed show the world the beauty that can be achieve without guns.Give me a break.what guns do the Palestians have ? can you name the brands and the the names of the exporting countries as well as the quantity.
next time,you'll be telling us that the Palestinians are demolishing houses on the heads of the israelis.
why can't the terrorist iraelis,the ones who really have loads of weapons of mass destruction
,drop their guns and show the world the beauty you are talking about ?
Israel is an apartheid,a terrorist and an occupier state .
how can you ppl get this into your brains ?
how did your ancestors kick out the British colonizers ??
by giving up their guns I geuss.
2003-03-31

KHURRAM said:
Very powerful. Moving and emotive. I wish some of the rulers may have it in them to feel this same way.
2003-03-31

INISA POKA FROM EARTH said:
We asked to President of American last fifty years to liberate us palestine from Israel and Kashmir from India. But President Bush two ear only hear CIA from Left and Pantagon from Right. And two eyes only can see Sharon and Israeli TV and Fox Channel news where they only show Israeli killer killed by an ambush. Those are Innocent. MR. PRESIDENT WE ASKED TO YOU FREE US FROM ISRAEL AND INDIA, NOT TO LIBERATE IRAQ. IRAQ IS A FREE COUNTRY LIKE USA. BUT INDIA AND ISRAEL OCCUPIED OUR LAND LAST OVER FIFTY YEARS. MR. BUSH WAKE UP, SHAKE YOUR HEAD AND LITEN TO WORLD. WORLD IS BIGGER THAN ISRAEL. MR. BUSH DROP THOSE BOMBS IN ISRAEL AND SHARON HOUSE AND HIS PARTY WORKERS, AND ISRAELIS SOLDIERS, ISRAELIS TANK, CHOPPERS AND THEIR WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION SITES. SHARON AND ISRAELI ARMY KILLING INNOCENT PALESTINES CIVILIANS IN THEIR TERRITORY. MR. BUSH YOUR CABINET KILLING INNOCENT IRAQI PEOPLE.

MR. BUSH YOU AND YOUR CABINET ARE WAR CRIMINALS.
2003-03-31

ZARILBEK NISHAN UULU FROM USA said:
I liked this article. The whole idea of discussing this illusion is very original and definitely applicable to all what is happening.
I personally had not really imagined all those American "sources of evil" around the country in destruction.
Overall I liked it very much and appreciate the author. Hope it made some people think.
2003-03-31

RAJAWALI FROM TEGANU said:
'but do not forget his partner, uk (united kindoms)'
2003-03-31

COLINS FROM USA said:
Ayesha.

The world is full of arbitrary borders and illegal 'occupations.' How far do we have to go back as a world community to say who is the most just or deserving of their illegal land? Do you believe the borders you live within emerged out of the ground as divine prescription? We should all learn by now, history has clearly proven there is no 'real' glory in killing each other for land that does not belong to any one. I am certainly aware that the reality of our world today is still mired with tyrants, and that many current borders have been achieved by brutal repression and killings. It is indeed painfully sad. Those who live by guns to solve their 'problems' of humiliation will surely die by guns, and another generation will not wake up to a new reality of building peaceful countries. Real Jihad is NOT about killing. Are the Muslim countries afraid of making the paradigm change?The Palestinian should negotiate for the best borders they can, and then build the best country they are quite capable of. The Palestinian can indeed show the world the beauty that can be achieve without guns, but with brilliance, creativity, and productivity. Or is the only solution the complete elimination of Israel for the Middle East, Muslims (disguised as Palestinian brotherhood) to be satisfied?
2003-03-31

KOVIT FROM CANADA said:
Young Americans in uniform are now dying...

More and more people will die, Iraqis, Americans, British and others. Billions of dollars from American taxpayers will be spent for this war. The country that will get the most benefit out of this war is Israel. Just think about it, which people are behind this world mess. ...Click!!
2003-03-31

MATT FROM . said:
the difference between the americans and the palestinians is the americans didn't know they were occupied.
2003-03-31

ABDUL WADOUD FROM USA said:
As Salaamu Alaikum,

John Norman I have read your past posts with amusement but this one is just stupid. Look at the history of the USA and see the destruction of the Native people and the enslavement of others. Remeber also that WWII Germany was a Chistian nation as was Italy. Remember the conquest of South America by Christian Spain. You tend to forget the conquest of Christian Rome precedeed the "Arab Hordes". You also don't seem to realize that there are over 600,000 Christians in Baghdad and that the number two man in Saddam's regime is Christian. Also the second most holy site in the Christian faith is in Iraq the church founded by St Thomas also the suspected final resting place on earth for the Virgin Mary is in Iraq. Your statement shows a great lack of knowledge of history and and even greater lack of desire to know the truth. You make me ashamed to say I am an American born and raised.
2003-03-31

ABDULLAH FROM EMBARRESSMENT said:
No rather all Muslims should Jihad against the
western invadors, and furthermore, it is a duty
upon every Muslim whether male or female to help
establish an islamic khilafah-a single state ruled
by one Caliph. now we all know america would never
allow this, and none should be feared but Allah
(SWT) no matter how much of a "terrorist" one is
called. It is Allah swt who made us and it is to
Allah swt we will return. Asalamu alaykum
muslimeen keep the dua with al m
2003-03-30

AYESHA FROM ENGLAND said:
Reply to Colin: Then, they should manage their countries with true peace, love, tolerance, and equity............. Wake up to reality will you. Only someone who is a firm muslim can implement these things into leadership and I dont see any regime being replaced democratically more like a 'puppet' government will be placed in all places that will be controlled by th US in terms that are most economically beneficial to the US. Maybe if someone came into your neighbourhood and started killing everyone you might find the courage to fight back 'Jihad' is the name for it. Or would you find another way to address the humiliation?. Its good you look forward to one world nice to see hope i have the same hope but look around illegal occupation of palestinian property and brutality and evrywhere else you see opression ...... do you really think justice will be done by those in power to these people? I dont encourage any violence whatsoever but I wonder at the plight of those people with no weapons no land that they have to resort to these methods . Just ponder over the idea of such a thing and maybe you might feel a small piece of their anguish. An maybe the US should have helped the iraqi ppl to overthrow saddam by some other means. No wonder they are fighting back becuz the war is against the people also that is why they are dying and suffering. Its not an angelic fight against the west its about basic human rights that these ppl should have.
2003-03-30

JOHN NORMAN FROM UK said:
Who started the war? Islam did, not just years ago (9/11) but over a thousand years ago through the invasion of neighbouring countries by Arab hordes. Pity Carrol has no sense of history.
2003-03-30

RBNSDLK FROM USA said:
When men call good evil and evil good there is no hope for justice...When good men do nothing evil has no enemies... America has always stood for good to defeat evil....
2003-03-30

ABDUL KARIM NAVIWALA, AAMIR FROM INDIA said:
cammon finish that basterd Amirican show them our power i am thinking that inshalla we will win and common get america in our hand Allah kamyabi ata farmae
2003-03-30

COLINS FROM USA said:
The Islamic world should be teaching the words that killing is not the answer to address humiliation and pride. Jihad has been co-opted to be anti-West and anti-Jew using desperate and futile acts of killing as the primary tool. There is also a false notion that the Islamic world is in some kind of angelic fight against the great satan of the West, mostly the USA. For sure, the West is not entirely blameless for equally false notions during the western colonial expansion, but the vicious circle has to be broken now. Today, what the great majority of the Muslim people should do is look within to their own countries and overthrow their leaders who keep them down. Then, they should manage their countries with true peace, love, tolerance, and equity. It is no wonder we do not hear of the leaders in these countries strapping themselves with bombs and dying in the name of Allah. I look forward to a one world, and one peace with all it's multi-ethnic hues, and religions.
2003-03-29