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The Game is Over
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"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. - Hermann Goering, Nazi leader, at the Nuremberg Trials after World War II
"There can be no peace without law. And there can be no law if we were to invoke one code of conduct for those who oppose us and another for our friends" (Israel vs. Iraq) - President Dwight Eisenhower
Refugees pouring out of Iraq by the millions in search of food and shelter. Children too weak to flee. A landscape poisoned by chemical or biological weapons. Relief workers are preparing for the worst if war breaks out in Iraq.
President Bush on February 6, 2003 directed that up to $15 million be made available for helping the refugee crisis that may arise (while spending over $200 Billion to kill them).
"THE GAME IS OVER"
President Bush's Ultimatum to Saddam, the U.N. Security Council, and The World. Mr. President Bush is correct about one thing: his foreign policy has been a "GAME'" - a game of "MONOPOLY" of lies, hegemony, and "utter contempt" for the world, its peace, its people, and its environment.
"THE GAME" of controlling the Middle East, reshaping it as a western colony for theological and economic domination is as old as the Jewish belief that "no gentile", meaning no Arab or Palestinian, need live in God's promised land for His "Chosen People". "The Game" was brutally expanded with the Christian empire where "regime change" of the Muslim world was "blessed" by God himself and His Popes into an eternal crusade against Islam that continues today under the latest bearer of the "Cross" - the compassionate, conservative, God fearing, born again and again from sin and alcoholism, protector of "fetus and life", unifier of people, evangelical Methodist - President George W. Bush.
"Lying" to kill, steal, enrich, and annex is as old as time, beginning with Cain's murder of Abel. Yet, the art of "sound byte murder" has never been as perfected in human history as it has been by the self-proclaimed "civilized world", whereby "Muslim blood is miraculously transformed to needed water and oil". Cain's lie killed one person - Bush-Sharon-Blair's "lies for war" can kill humanity, it's faith in God and peace, its decency, dignity, morality, and love.
ISLAM has and always will be the one ideology that stands in the way of the Israeli-American greed and domination. From Israel's very founding, David Ben Gurion, Yitzhak Rabin, and Shimon Peres declared that "Islam is the true enemy of Israel." What better strategy existed than to manipulate the western "Holocaust" Guilt to adopt a "marriage of convenience" between the historically theological enemies of Judaism and Christianity into the new and improved "Judeo-Christian" foundation of western civilization aligning against the common enemy of 'ISLAM".
Utilizing the art of "demonization" and inherent belief of the "superiority" of the white man perfected by Europe from the Crusades to Nazism; Israel and it's gullible super powers, Britain and America, are poised once again to "Re-colonize" the Middle East and "reform Islam".
President Bush's introduction and indoctrination into this perfected "Zionist" art began with his helicopter ride over the "promised land" of Judea/Samaria, the West Bank, with his tutor Ariel Sharon. That President Bush couldn't or didn't want to see Israel's brutal occupation, its American funded illegal settlements, its mosaic of Jew only highways inflicted upon Palestinians is a testament to the man's ignorance and/or fundamentalist evangelical beliefs. Neither knew that in due time both will lead their nations into an abyss of a new "Pandora's box and crusade" in the Middle East.
Indeed, President Bush has perfected "The Game" where might is right and unparalleled power can determine the future of humanity, at least in the short term.
President Bush's Declarations of "you're either with us or against us" and "Pre-emptive Strike" laid the foundation to a crusade against any and all labeled enemies, the fact that all such enemies happen to be Israel's enemies is lost on President Bush but not the world. Developing such a "LIST" became the obsession and justification for all nations to destroy their internal and external "enemies" - from America's Israeli inspired "List of Terrorist Organizations and Nations", to Israel's, Europe's, Russia's, China's, and most inspiring of all, to Muslim dictators around the world jihading against their own people to serve America. "Security" and "Defense" are now the democratic principles to justify murder, abuse of human rights, and discard the United Nations Charter, International Conventions and Treaties, Due Process, Constitutional guarantees, but above all to disobey God's supremacy and love of humanity. Religion became an advertising and convenient "sound byte", an ideology for murderous intent for "terrorists" like Bin Laden, or "democratically elected" leaders such as Saddam Hussein, Ariel Sharon, Tony Blair, George Bush, Vladimir Putin, and tragically for all alleged Muslim leaders.
The common denominator for such leaders is to launch a war with "WEAPONS of MUSLIM DESTRUCTION." Thus the Bush-Sharon-Blair strategy was formulated against the Muslim world to ensure conflicts, military bases, theft of cheap oil and water, and an era of Muslim submission.
Like the ashes of the Holocaust giving rise to Israel, the world's premier terrorist state, the ashes of innocent Americans on 9/11 gave rise to the "Crusade du jour" for President Bush's Corporate Oil, Media, and Christian Evangelist friends who lust for a Jewish and Muslim Armageddon to hasten the return of Jesus (pbuh), the "Prince of Peace" to dominate the Muslim world that unjustly holds 60% of the world's oil reserves and stands opposed to Israel's dream of conquest and hegemony in the Middle East. At a recent Christian Coalition Conference where Vice President Dick Cheney spoke, a bumper sticker was being sold that read: "NO MUSLIMS...NO TERRORISTS".
An anti-war signs says it all: "How Did Our Oil Get Under their Sands?" and "How Many Lives Per Gallon".
After a one sided Persian Gulf War in 1991 that devastated Iraq back into the dark ages, inhumanely and massively destroyed water, electrical and sewage plants, dams, food storage's, pharmaceutical companies, roads, bridges, schools, orphanages, nursing homes, and mosques; after 12 years of the severest sanctions that denied medicines and water purification chemicals under the excuse of "dual use weapons"; after 12 years of non-stop British and American bombing in the illegal and unsanctioned "no fly zones" to ensure future division of Iraq into three zones; President Bush inexplicably with Israel's goading, focused like a laser on Saddam Hussein's imminent threat to America and the "civilized" world. As fast as President Bush could come up with "a propaganda lie du jour" to justify murdering innocent hungry Iraqis, they were immediately shot down by FACTS, including from within his own administration as well as allies. However, since when did FACTS and TRUTH ever stop America's foreign policy of supporting "freedom and democracy" upon the "third world?" Even the term "third", invented after World War II, belies racism and prejudice.
President Bush needed a strategy of "Perpetual Fear and Spin" upon Americans whose ignorance and gullibility on foreign affairs make them patsies for Israel and the military-industrial-media complex.
ANSWER: Send the respectable Colin Powell to the UN Security Council with a "speech" of lies, tapes, and videos to galvanize and intimidate the world into accepting an imminent war upon Iraq.
The title of the speech itself was a clue to its lack of FACTS and EVIDENCE regarding Iraq's possession of "weapons of mass destruction". The title "Iraq's Failure to Disarm: DENIALS AND DECEPTIONS". Hence, the bottom line was Iraq's lack of compliance with SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION 1441 and NOT ITS POSSESSION OF W.M.D., or was it "regime change", or both?
To Powell's eternal shame and career ending performance, the "evidence" he presented was contradicted by the Chief Weapon's Inspectors Dr. Hans Blix and Dr. Muhammad El Baradiay, by the CIA and FBI who deny Al-Qaeda's link to Saddam, by the British Intelligence who on the same day leaked a report denying such a connection, media reports here and worldwide including the New York Times, Washington Post, the Guardian, Independent, Economist, and Israeli papers such as Ha'aretz, and most importantly even by Israel's Intelligence.
According to FOX NEWS, Boaz Ganor, an Israeli counter-terrorism expert, said he knows of no Iraqi ties to terror groups A senior Israeli security source told The Associated Press this week that Israel has not yet found evidence of an Iraqi-Palestinian-Al Qaeda triangle, and that several investigations into possible Al Qaeda ties to Palestinian militias have so far not yielded substantial results.
As to Powell's claim of an Al-Qaeda camp operating in Kurdish Iraq, beyond Saddam's control no less, the New York Times reports (Feb. 6: "Kurds Puzzled By Report of Terror Camp) that a senior Kurdish official, a member of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan who is familiar with the intelligence on the Ansar group mentioned by Powell, said he had not heard of the laboratory Mr. Powell displayed. "I don't know anything about this compound," he said. Kurds also questioned whether Mr. Powell mislabeled the photograph. Khurmal, the village named in the photo, is controlled not by Ansar al-Islam but by Komala Islami Kurdistan, a more moderate Islamic group. Abu Bari Syan, an administrator for Komal Islami Kurdistan, the party that controls Khurmal, took an even stronger stand about Mr. Powell's claim. "All of it is not true," he said.
World governments and media are replete with refutations of Powell's "evidence". The point here is the extent President Bush is willing to frighten, lie and intimidate the American people and the world to support an unjustified war. Shockingly, after Powell's speech where he quoted from a British government "intelligence" report outlining the case against Saddam, it was revealed that the British Report was a total fabrication lifted and plagiarized from old academic reports, in particular from a research paper written by Ibrahim al-Marashi which appeared in the Middle East Review of International Affairs last September. Is it "civilized" to electronically cut, paste, and plagiarize "dossiers for murder" now? (See Guardian Feb 7 "UK war dossier a SHAM, say experts" British 'intelligence' lifted from academic articles. Shockingly, but expected, the American media, especially the "twin towers of Zionism" - the New York Times and Washington Post did NOT even mention this story. Their pages were replete with salivating editorials and opinion pieces praising Powell for providing "Irrefutable and Undeniable" evidence to kill Iraqi's. One wonders given President President Bush's lies, his administrations use of "secret evidence", detentions, prosecutions, and deportations against American Muslims, the shredding of the "Bill of Rights" and civil liberties, and the media's complicity and applause for President Bush-Sharon Murder Incorporated if "Regime Change" should begin in America, otherwise, what's the difference between living in America and Iraq.
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President Bush, Blair, and Sharon will have their war short of a miracle. They will invade Iraq, setup a puppet government, pay for the war with Iraqi oil, enrich themselves, and began the implementation of "Who's Next", just as the Jerusalem Post predicted days after 9/11 "Next Stop, Baghdad." The Middle East will be reformed and neutered and pipelines for WATER, OIL, and GAS will flow to Israel. These pipelines like all of Israel's policies will be for "JEWS ONLY." Israel will determine the price of oil for Americans, Europeans, Japanese, and the rest of the world. President Bush finally succumbed to Sharon's blackmail of either attacking Iraq or he'll do it with nuclear weapons, similar to Yitzhak Rabin's blackmail of President Nixon during the Yum Kippur war of 1973 - either re-supply us immediately with conventional weapons or I'm nuking the Arabs. As expected with "America the Beautiful, the free, the brave" when it comes to Israel, Israel always gets what it wants while laughing all the way to the US Treasury as how stupid can Americans be.
Reporter: "I want to ask you, President President Bush, about your foreign policy, if I may, Sir."
President Bush: "Saddam is a threat to America and we'll stop him. Let's Roll. The Game is Over."
Sir: "My question had to do with North Korea. Are you aware that North Korea already has Nuclear Weapons, long range missiles, and the world's fourth largest army and is threatening the United States saying: "that "pre-emptive attacks are not the exclusive right of the US". Secondly, Sir, do you realize the danger of your "Pre-emptive Strike" becoming a precedent for the world?
President Bush: "Saddam is a threat to America and we'll stop him. Let's Roll. The Game is Over."
Sir: you didn't answer the question. What about the American economy, Mr. President? You are aware that the economy is dipping rapidly into a recession with the highest unemployment in 20 years, that the budget surplus is now a large deficit, that the stock market has lost much value, that consumer confidence in you and the economy is very low, yet you propose a $678 Billion tax cut for the rich, ballooning the federal bureaucracy with massive spending, and to top it, all instead of helping the American people, like the Veterans and the elderly, and businesses you're actually giving Israel another $20 Billion in aid this year alone?
President Bush: "Saddam is a threat to America and we'll stop him. Let's Roll. The Game is Over."
Sir: "you didn't answer the question. On another issue, Sir, why are we getting more involved with our military and spending billions in Columbia's war against its rebels? Can't this become another Vietnam?
President Bush: "Saddam is a threat to America and we'll stop him. Let's Roll. The Game is Over."
Sir: "you didn't answer the question. Mr. President, Americans are still grieving from the Columbia tragedy, no not the country, the space shuttle. Don't you think the country needs time to grieve over the deaths of the astronauts over Palestine, Texas, before we begin grieving over our military men and women who'll die in Sharon's war and for the Americans who'll die here and around the world from increased terrorism against us?
President Bush: "Saddam is a threat to America and we'll stop him. Let's Roll. The Game is Over."
Sir: "obviously you're singularly fixated on the evil man "Saddam". Sir, why did we give Saddam his biological and chemical weapons in the first place when he was killing Iranians? Sir, why didn't America publicly condemn Saddam when he allegedly "gassed" the Kurds (It's been refuted by the senior CIA man responsible for Iraq in the Iran-Iraq war)? Sir, if Saddam was a threat to America when he had weapons of mass destruction in 1991, why didn't your father and Powell invade Baghdad? Sir, if we had all this good intelligence with photos of his chemical and biological factories shown by Powell for all these years why didn't we bomb them like we daily bomb water treatment plants? Sir, why did your father lie about "babies in incubators" being killed and of the massing of Iraqi troops on the Saudi border in 1991? Sir, why did your V.P. Cheney love Saddam when he made millions off of Iraqi oil and now he calls him a "threat to western civilization"? Sir, why are all your administration officials who want this war desperately Jews with more loyalty to Israel than America? and...
President Bush: "Enough is Enough. Saddam must go now. Let's Roll. The Game is Over. He's violated 17 U.N. Resolutions for 12 years and he's shown nothing but "utter contempt" for the U.N. and the world. The U.N. must enforce it's Resolutions and give me my war or it'll cease to be relevant. I want Saddam's head with or without them. This is America, no one tells us what to do. By the way, you look like a Muslim to me. Someone call John Ashcroft, now!"
Sir: "I'm an American Muslim, wait a minute...Mr. President, what of Israel's "utter contempt" of 100 U.N. Resolutions since 1949-- hold on, what of Sharon's "utter contempt for you and the American people when he refused to heed your threats and said instead "WE CONTROL AMERICA"...Just one more thing, Mr. President, did you hear of Israel's massacre in Jenin, it's daily killing of Palestinian children, its demolition of hundreds of Palestinian homes, of preventing Muslims from Jerusalem and performing Hajj...it's...Ahhhhhhh!
I witness that there is no deity but ALLAH, and Muhammad is His Messenger. To God we belong, and to Him we shall return.
POSTSCRIPT:
May 20, 1991: President George President Bush: "At this juncture, my view is we don't want to lift these sanctions as long as Saddam Hussein is in power." James Baker, Secretary of State: "We are not interested in seeing a relaxation of sanctions as long as Saddam Hussein is in power." (Weapons of Mass Destruction were simply a Distraction: Regime Change was Goal).
January 14, 1993: In the face of criticism, particularly from The New York Times, that he might lift sanctions and even normalize relations with Iraq, Clinton backtracks: "There is no difference between my policy and the policy of the present Administration...I have no intention of normalizing relations with him." (See The New York Times and Boston Globe, January 15, 1993).
May 12, 1996: On "60 Minutes," Lesley Stahl asks Albright: "We have heard that a half a million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. Is the price worth it?" Albright responds: "I think this is a very hard choice, but the price - we think the price is worth it."
General Powell is routinely referred to in the media as the moderate or "dove" inside the President Bush administration. It is important to remember that it is the same Colin Powell who, at a press briefing shortly after the conclusion of the 1991 Gulf War when asked his assessment of the number of Iraqi soldiers and civilians killed, which had been put at over 100,000, answered, "It's really not a number I'm terribly interested in."
Approximately 250 people die every day in Iraq due to the effect of the sanctions. "One out of every 4 Iraqi infants is malnourished" - UNICEF, April 1998.
The amount of explosives dropped on Iraq in the first day alone (January 17, 1991) of air and naval attacks was equivalent to the explosive power of the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. This military onslaught on a defenseless people included the first-time use of 300 tons of depleted uranium shells plus a frightening array of other internationally banned radiological, biological, and chemical weapons. All in all, over 140,000 tons of explosives, equivalent to 7 nuclear bombs, were used against the Iraqi society in destroying their environment and infrastructure.
Twelve Years of suffocating sanctions has already claimed over one and a half million civilian lives, the vast majority of whom are children and the elderly. More than 500,000 toddlers and infants have died due to the consequences of the sanctions (UNICEF, 1999). Twenty-three percent of all children in Iraq have stunted growth.
"We call on the president of America, the vice president and the congressmen to come to Iraq and see the little children and Tony Blair, the U.K. government and Kofi Annan to come and to go to the cancer ward and give us an answer...what was their crime?" - Nobel Peace Prize laureate Adolfo Perez-Esquivel of Argentina who traveled to Iraq in March (AP, March 9, 1999).
"I asked myself many times where do the rights of children fit in here? Why should any, but especially children under the age of five, suffer so much and die in such numbers? Sadly, I had to witness ever repeated scenes of children dying as I walked through hospital wards...." - Margarita Skinner, UNICEF Health Coordinator in Baghdad from 1991-1992.
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AMIN FROM USA said:
I would say that a good majority of the underground news is NOT true...
The regular news tends to report the Glaring facts, it is the ammount of time spent on them and the commentary that is mixed up...
The regular news tends to report the Glaring facts, it is the ammount of time spent on them and the commentary that is mixed up...
2003-02-25
ANDREA FROM USA said:
Amin,
Although the "it is all lies" may be a simplification and conspiracy theories are plenty, remember a couple of things:
A good majority of the underground news (for a better lack of words), is based on fact. Articles that were reported by maybe one major media outlet, but none else would dare to publish it also- but the people who want to know the truth spread it and dont forget. Take for instance one of the Washington papers who reported that Bush planned the Iraqi regime change and had blueprints for it before even taking office, or that the BBC reported that the US informed several different countries, including India as early as JULY 2001 that it was going to invade Afghanistan. ( But gee I thought they were going to war in Afghanistan because of 9/11...hmmmm)
You wonder why people are suspicious. Dig, dig dig and you shall find.
Hey does everyone remember that pathetic attempt of the Osama video? That fat guy masquerading as Osama! People believe what they want to believe, no matter how much truth it may or may not have in it.
Although the "it is all lies" may be a simplification and conspiracy theories are plenty, remember a couple of things:
A good majority of the underground news (for a better lack of words), is based on fact. Articles that were reported by maybe one major media outlet, but none else would dare to publish it also- but the people who want to know the truth spread it and dont forget. Take for instance one of the Washington papers who reported that Bush planned the Iraqi regime change and had blueprints for it before even taking office, or that the BBC reported that the US informed several different countries, including India as early as JULY 2001 that it was going to invade Afghanistan. ( But gee I thought they were going to war in Afghanistan because of 9/11...hmmmm)
You wonder why people are suspicious. Dig, dig dig and you shall find.
Hey does everyone remember that pathetic attempt of the Osama video? That fat guy masquerading as Osama! People believe what they want to believe, no matter how much truth it may or may not have in it.
2003-02-24
AMIN FROM USA said:
Bravo, Kelelawar, I agree completly
2003-02-19
AMIN FROM USA said:
In addition why don't I ever read articles saying that Kuwait wants revenge as being a possible reason...
Or Saudi is scared?
These are impossible?
Both have ridiculousarmies after all.
Or Saudi is scared?
These are impossible?
Both have ridiculousarmies after all.
2003-02-19
AMIN FROM USA said:
Abdu Razzaq,
I'm glad to see you can understand my sentiments, to some degree. I don't want a war, I know people who could die or lose family in a war from both sides.
I really think Muslim nations should put more pressure on Saddam themselves. There should be no solidarity with Saddam simply because he is against America.
The flawwed logic that is prevailant among "Muslim" governments and countries is condemn because it is America.
How quickly Syria and Egypt complain and condemn possible civilian deaths when they have both killed their own civilians like Saddam. Maybe their own history is what scares them. If the US can go after Iraq for what it did, can it go after Syria for Hama. These governments are improving of course and trying to fix their images, but they support Saddam out of some strange Pan Arabic loyalty which is immoral at best. To side yourself with someone because of the group they identify with is immoral, just as it is Immoral to side yourself against someone in the same.
If I hear arguments using flawed logic, as I often do here than I am repeled
I've seen Articles saying "Iraq threatens Israel"
Israel could flatten every Arab country with nuclear weapons in an hour, what threat are you talking about?
Articles that say "The US wants cheap oil/better economy"
Ok a possible part but too risky just for that
Articles that say "It is a war on Islam"
Maybe for some christians but certainly not all
Articles that say "Saddam hurt is own people"
Ok? and who in the region hasn't
Articles that say "Israel wants to be the only regional power and is afraid of nuclear threat"
Do You believe a few nuclear weapons will ever compare to what Israel has? Iraq can only threaten Israel with regional distructon, there is no logical threat Iraq could ever pose to Israel.
"Iraq has worked with terrorist, Iraq has WMD, Terr. want WMD, Iraq could give them"
Maybe, but doubtful
All these are probably par
I'm glad to see you can understand my sentiments, to some degree. I don't want a war, I know people who could die or lose family in a war from both sides.
I really think Muslim nations should put more pressure on Saddam themselves. There should be no solidarity with Saddam simply because he is against America.
The flawwed logic that is prevailant among "Muslim" governments and countries is condemn because it is America.
How quickly Syria and Egypt complain and condemn possible civilian deaths when they have both killed their own civilians like Saddam. Maybe their own history is what scares them. If the US can go after Iraq for what it did, can it go after Syria for Hama. These governments are improving of course and trying to fix their images, but they support Saddam out of some strange Pan Arabic loyalty which is immoral at best. To side yourself with someone because of the group they identify with is immoral, just as it is Immoral to side yourself against someone in the same.
If I hear arguments using flawed logic, as I often do here than I am repeled
I've seen Articles saying "Iraq threatens Israel"
Israel could flatten every Arab country with nuclear weapons in an hour, what threat are you talking about?
Articles that say "The US wants cheap oil/better economy"
Ok a possible part but too risky just for that
Articles that say "It is a war on Islam"
Maybe for some christians but certainly not all
Articles that say "Saddam hurt is own people"
Ok? and who in the region hasn't
Articles that say "Israel wants to be the only regional power and is afraid of nuclear threat"
Do You believe a few nuclear weapons will ever compare to what Israel has? Iraq can only threaten Israel with regional distructon, there is no logical threat Iraq could ever pose to Israel.
"Iraq has worked with terrorist, Iraq has WMD, Terr. want WMD, Iraq could give them"
Maybe, but doubtful
All these are probably par
2003-02-19
KELELAWAR FROM MALAYSIA said:
The "War on Terror" cannot be won unless war is also declared on the oppression that Muslims endure from their governments throughout the so-called Muslim world. Anti-Western terrorism and sentiment will not abate until Western support and strengthening of these regimes ends. Until then, the world would do well to remember the ominous words of the poet Auden: "I and the public know, what every school child learns. Those to whom evil is done, do evil in return."
2003-02-19
ADAM FROM CHINA said:
The article is fine and full of evidence. The question now is what to do after identifying the perpetrators of these crimes agains muslims/humanity?
It is high time we start working on countering and fighting our enemies be they "muslims" or not and this should start right where we are. Within our own self, our families, cities, countries, etc. No Western power will work towards establishing peace and freedom as dictated by islam.
let's start now!!! It is not late yet. It is in America's interest to conquer Irak and other muslim countries. It is in our interest to resist American hegemonism and establish a fair society in our own countires.
If we are ready to risk our lives and spend a lot of money to migrate to the Western countries, why not make the same to establish the freedom in our own homelands, create opportunities in our countries, etc.
Let us get to work right now and insha Allah we shall overcome someday.
may we succeed.
It is high time we start working on countering and fighting our enemies be they "muslims" or not and this should start right where we are. Within our own self, our families, cities, countries, etc. No Western power will work towards establishing peace and freedom as dictated by islam.
let's start now!!! It is not late yet. It is in America's interest to conquer Irak and other muslim countries. It is in our interest to resist American hegemonism and establish a fair society in our own countires.
If we are ready to risk our lives and spend a lot of money to migrate to the Western countries, why not make the same to establish the freedom in our own homelands, create opportunities in our countries, etc.
Let us get to work right now and insha Allah we shall overcome someday.
may we succeed.
2003-02-19
ABDUH ALI FROM US said:
Saddam Hussein has murdered many more Muslims (Iran, Kurds, Kuwait, his own people) than the West. The Muslims should not be defending him, he is no friend of the Muslims, or of Allah. The jihad should be declared against him.
2003-02-19
SHUJA SYED FROM TORONTO, CANADA said:
Sir, when our writers will use the same spirit against the Muslim leaders? Please, stop attacking Bush and start writing the similar articles against our beloved and honourable Muslim leaders.
Shuja
Shuja
2003-02-19
SARA FROM USA said:
This article's shrill tone and attitude towards Jews and Christians takes away from the many valid political points it contains. Islamicity, please link to articles that bridge the gaps between people, not those that widen them! Rhetoric about Zionists and Crusaders only serves to inflame people's hearts against each other.
thank you
thank you
2003-02-19
ABU SUFYAN FROM USA said:
Areader: You need to read MORE. After the Gulf War in 1991 the US used the opportunity to gain a foothold in the region and leave a commanding military presence. Some even speculate that it was to protect the frightened Saudi monarchy which continues to be under durest from many of its harline citizens. Maybe this was stage one. Stage Two they pratically seiged the oil fields by controlling (with the UN) the amount Iraq could ship and overseeing Iraq's oil partnerships. Evidently with Saudi resistance swelling, the economy faultering and global oil prices increasing, Bush Jr decided that this was not good enough. Besides, under the sanctions, Iraq is only manufacturing ~1/3 of the oil possible. The US probably wants to harness and utilize all those unused reserves. Saddam won't go to bed with the US gov't anymore, so they decide to initiate Stage 3 - attack the country and self administer its oil fields.
Why does the US not attack Turkey? Because they are a geographic and social bridge to the Middle East. A key ally which the US took under its wing AFTER they secularized, much like the US destruction-alliance with Japan. They have convinced the Turks that success lies with the West. They cannot overtly attack Muslims in this country, but they have clandestinely (even less so lately) began to target our schools and mosques (even sending in undercover opperatives), and have unfairly discriminated against Muslim immigrants. Muslims should not hate the Kuffar but they also should not take them as CLOSE friends. And contrary to what you say you have not been attacked by any Muslim countries. You have been attacked by an ideology that has its disgrunted roots in the imperialist actions of this country. Muslims should not support Bin Laden or any of his Khawaariji organizations, but understand why he thinks as he does. For more info on Islam or Christianity email
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And I will gladly try to set you straight.
Why does the US not attack Turkey? Because they are a geographic and social bridge to the Middle East. A key ally which the US took under its wing AFTER they secularized, much like the US destruction-alliance with Japan. They have convinced the Turks that success lies with the West. They cannot overtly attack Muslims in this country, but they have clandestinely (even less so lately) began to target our schools and mosques (even sending in undercover opperatives), and have unfairly discriminated against Muslim immigrants. Muslims should not hate the Kuffar but they also should not take them as CLOSE friends. And contrary to what you say you have not been attacked by any Muslim countries. You have been attacked by an ideology that has its disgrunted roots in the imperialist actions of this country. Muslims should not support Bin Laden or any of his Khawaariji organizations, but understand why he thinks as he does. For more info on Islam or Christianity email
"[email protected]"
And I will gladly try to set you straight.
2003-02-19
DEIRDRE FROM IRELAND said:
on reading your brillant article, the game is over, i always seem to have this over powering sense of disgust that the whole arab world in its long history cannot find the muster to stand up for their dignity and honor and keep allowing others to dictate to them, yet, they would not think twice of divorcing a wife who insulted their family members their is something very wrong here and sickening, surely a corrupt people deserve their corrupt leaders
2003-02-19
ABDUR RAZZAQ FROM USA said:
Because many scholars have made takfeer (pronounced kufr) on Saddam, he is not the one that I, or any Muslims should be defending. While I agree with Amin that he is a despicable human being, I do not think the US has the right to attack, especially with the drummed up, weak, and fabricated charges that they have put forth! They evidence presented would probably be dissected and obliterated in US court of Law by a good defense attorney. Attacking him is not the issue either, it is the fact that many Iraqi people will die or be pushed to near death because of the onslaught delivered by the US military. My beef goes deeper than just attacking Iraq, because I see a pattern developing here where anyone, Muslim or otherwise, who does not fall in line with US policy is getting dealt with harshly. The countries they cannot bribe with "Funding" and "aid" may suffer harsher consequences.
As a reference, the Caliphate after the times of Abu Bakr and Umar was marred with inflighting and bloodshed. Some rulers were notoriously wicked in every area of the Islamic territory. However, that does not mean that the Muslims should have supported the invading Crusaders. Many times they forgot their petty squabbles to jointly face the enemy, and that should be our position now. The US policy is easy-divide and conquer-and they have been successful.
Also, many Muslims and non-Muslims alike read one passage or verse from the Qur'an and completely forget about the context of the revelation, or the accompanying verses which may make the fatwa situational. We should "Ask the people of knowledge if we don't know" and most of fall into the category of those who don't know most of the time.
As Salaamu alaikum.
As a reference, the Caliphate after the times of Abu Bakr and Umar was marred with inflighting and bloodshed. Some rulers were notoriously wicked in every area of the Islamic territory. However, that does not mean that the Muslims should have supported the invading Crusaders. Many times they forgot their petty squabbles to jointly face the enemy, and that should be our position now. The US policy is easy-divide and conquer-and they have been successful.
Also, many Muslims and non-Muslims alike read one passage or verse from the Qur'an and completely forget about the context of the revelation, or the accompanying verses which may make the fatwa situational. We should "Ask the people of knowledge if we don't know" and most of fall into the category of those who don't know most of the time.
As Salaamu alaikum.
2003-02-19
SHAHZAD AHMAD FROM USA said:
I hope that this article finds a larger audience.
2003-02-18
AHMED FROM MOROCCO said:
Mr Amin
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Please do so !!
when you finnish,please thank the CIA,and rethink about your statement above.
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Please do so !!
when you finnish,please thank the CIA,and rethink about your statement above.
2003-02-18
ADAM IBRAHIM MUHAMMAD FROM NIGERIA said:
Did I hear somebody say THE WORLD IS MAD..
From the United States to the rest of the world including the "Muslim Countries" all are being ruled by this mad people and the "citezens" just sit and watch...helplessly? No.
We've annoyed Allah, this is the fact, and only returning to him with sincere repentance may/can change things.
We pray that Allah forgive our shortcomings and relieve us from these tyrants who have imposed themselves as our leaders and leading us to doom.
Ameen.
From the United States to the rest of the world including the "Muslim Countries" all are being ruled by this mad people and the "citezens" just sit and watch...helplessly? No.
We've annoyed Allah, this is the fact, and only returning to him with sincere repentance may/can change things.
We pray that Allah forgive our shortcomings and relieve us from these tyrants who have imposed themselves as our leaders and leading us to doom.
Ameen.
2003-02-18
AMIN FROM USA said:
While the article may be true
and I disagree with blanketed statements that say
"It is all lies" I will say the author is not objective in any way shape or form and I'm starting to see this more and more.
While I'm sick of hearing the official Bush position on CNN and don't buy it completely, there is some truth to it.
In contrast this site is becoming clearly biased one directionally. The truth be known how many times do you have to use the same tired argument, "oil, crusade, evil bush, Evil sharon wants evil bush to attack Saddam"
This is propaganda just as bad as CNN.
Why is it on this Islamic site, that there is no condemnation of Saddam Husaine, the invader of Kuwait and Iran, and *afterthought* Palestinian supporter just like Palestine was also an afterthought for Usama.
Why on this Islamic site we focus solely on the idea "the evil Kufr want Muslim blood for oil" Why not write an article condemning the US attack and suggest that Muslim leaders come together and flush the evil slaughterer of Muslims to power. I can prove with numbers that Saddam has been responsible for more muslim death than America, Israel, and russia combined over the last 50 years.
While I don't want US to go to Iraq, propaganda here is as bad as CNN, and as an Islamic site we should be seeking the truth not repeating the same arguments until people believe them.
If you say a canary is purple enough times people will believe
You don't want the Kufr to attack and take out a threat in and to other Muslims but no one is standing up and offering to do it themselves.
How loudly Muslim leaders condemn Iraq's "antireligious" secularist actions while Iraq was buddy buddy with America and how quite Muslim clerics are now to condemn Iraq for policies that have gone unchanged.
Anyone who is trying to divide the worlds into camps is either a fool, or pure evil. There should not be a Pro-Iraq camp and a pro-America camp, because both are lieing with big lies, and both sides
and I disagree with blanketed statements that say
"It is all lies" I will say the author is not objective in any way shape or form and I'm starting to see this more and more.
While I'm sick of hearing the official Bush position on CNN and don't buy it completely, there is some truth to it.
In contrast this site is becoming clearly biased one directionally. The truth be known how many times do you have to use the same tired argument, "oil, crusade, evil bush, Evil sharon wants evil bush to attack Saddam"
This is propaganda just as bad as CNN.
Why is it on this Islamic site, that there is no condemnation of Saddam Husaine, the invader of Kuwait and Iran, and *afterthought* Palestinian supporter just like Palestine was also an afterthought for Usama.
Why on this Islamic site we focus solely on the idea "the evil Kufr want Muslim blood for oil" Why not write an article condemning the US attack and suggest that Muslim leaders come together and flush the evil slaughterer of Muslims to power. I can prove with numbers that Saddam has been responsible for more muslim death than America, Israel, and russia combined over the last 50 years.
While I don't want US to go to Iraq, propaganda here is as bad as CNN, and as an Islamic site we should be seeking the truth not repeating the same arguments until people believe them.
If you say a canary is purple enough times people will believe
You don't want the Kufr to attack and take out a threat in and to other Muslims but no one is standing up and offering to do it themselves.
How loudly Muslim leaders condemn Iraq's "antireligious" secularist actions while Iraq was buddy buddy with America and how quite Muslim clerics are now to condemn Iraq for policies that have gone unchanged.
Anyone who is trying to divide the worlds into camps is either a fool, or pure evil. There should not be a Pro-Iraq camp and a pro-America camp, because both are lieing with big lies, and both sides
2003-02-18
BONE SMOKER FROM USA said:
Lauren, they're all lies ! Its a conspiracy ! get back in your strait-jacked before the awful truth of your pathetic ignorance knocks you out !
2003-02-18
LAUREN STEPHENS FROM USA said:
I am reading thispage:
http://iviews.com/Articles/articles.asp?ref=IV0302-1859
And I am wondering, is this a joke?
You can't be serious!
Is this the crap that is being spread about Americans?
The things I am reading here are lies.
Why would you tell such blatant lies like this?
If this is what Islam is about, you people are scary.
http://iviews.com/Articles/articles.asp?ref=IV0302-1859
And I am wondering, is this a joke?
You can't be serious!
Is this the crap that is being spread about Americans?
The things I am reading here are lies.
Why would you tell such blatant lies like this?
If this is what Islam is about, you people are scary.
2003-02-18
ANDREA FROM USA said:
Kayed,
I was wondering if you could clarify something for me, you said you're Arab, are you also Muslim? I was just wondering. But as for what you said about Islam setting us back, WHAT? Islam set us back? HA! Look at what happens to Muslim countries, for example Turkey when they abandon Islam. STDs were not a problem in Muslim countries until they started adotping western values. The problem is hardly Islam, its that the governments don't actually practise Islam. Islam has a perfect system of government, and as a matter of fact the Taliban were only portrayed as being evil once they didn't want to get down with America on the oil pipeline. You say you know the facts? Exactly what FACTS are you talking about? the FACT that the Bushies, in their socalled wonderful democracy, knew about Sept. 11 beforehand? There's proof and the truth is out there but it has to be sought out soemtimes.
The cold hard truth about the Taliban is that although they were far from perfect, their people tended to like them. There are plenty of articles to this effect. It is only the mainstream media that won't let you hear about reports like this and the fact that most women kept the burqa on after they were gone, and so many wore it before they came into power. Hey what about the fact that their girls couldn't go to school? Well guess what? Their country was so poor, even most of the boys couldn't go to school either. At least the women were no longer afraid constantly of being raped when they came into power. It was the terrorist so called Northern Alliance that wreaked havoc on Afghanistan.
Anyways, before you go talking about Islam like you know what you're saying, why don't you do some real research? I'm really sure that the majority of the people reading for example don't know that the process of a woman divorcing her husband is actually simpler than the opposite?
Whta exactly did you mean either us or martyrdom? I didn't get that one. Get your facts straight, and then talk
I was wondering if you could clarify something for me, you said you're Arab, are you also Muslim? I was just wondering. But as for what you said about Islam setting us back, WHAT? Islam set us back? HA! Look at what happens to Muslim countries, for example Turkey when they abandon Islam. STDs were not a problem in Muslim countries until they started adotping western values. The problem is hardly Islam, its that the governments don't actually practise Islam. Islam has a perfect system of government, and as a matter of fact the Taliban were only portrayed as being evil once they didn't want to get down with America on the oil pipeline. You say you know the facts? Exactly what FACTS are you talking about? the FACT that the Bushies, in their socalled wonderful democracy, knew about Sept. 11 beforehand? There's proof and the truth is out there but it has to be sought out soemtimes.
The cold hard truth about the Taliban is that although they were far from perfect, their people tended to like them. There are plenty of articles to this effect. It is only the mainstream media that won't let you hear about reports like this and the fact that most women kept the burqa on after they were gone, and so many wore it before they came into power. Hey what about the fact that their girls couldn't go to school? Well guess what? Their country was so poor, even most of the boys couldn't go to school either. At least the women were no longer afraid constantly of being raped when they came into power. It was the terrorist so called Northern Alliance that wreaked havoc on Afghanistan.
Anyways, before you go talking about Islam like you know what you're saying, why don't you do some real research? I'm really sure that the majority of the people reading for example don't know that the process of a woman divorcing her husband is actually simpler than the opposite?
Whta exactly did you mean either us or martyrdom? I didn't get that one. Get your facts straight, and then talk
2003-02-18
UMALKHAYR FROM U.S.A said:
well first of all i would like to say aslum-alukum to all my brothers and sisters in islam. as i sit back and read some of these comments i'm getting so sick and tired by people knowing the truth about what is really going in the world and not what president bush or sharon are saying is going on. look injustice is being committed by these two leaders to a group of people because of their religion or way of life. yes i believe that the muslim world does not have many great leaders representing them in the world but lets get real now the only reason that bush wants to wage war on iraq is because ariel sharon wants to get saddam out of the picture so he can keep on with his genocide because he knows that saddam is capable of getting chemical and biological weapons and destroying israel. the europe leaders are not standing against america out of pity for muslims but bacause deep down inside inside they know that what they are doing is morally wrong and unethical. the reason this is happenig to us muslims is because we don't have faith in islam or Allah(swt) and none of the so called muslim countries are following islam so don't call them islamic states until their is nothing else but sharia law. lets wake up people and turn to Allah(swt)this was a wonderful article and i enjoyed reading it every sentence.
Allah is the greatest!
aslumu-alkum
Allah is the greatest!
aslumu-alkum
2003-02-17
YASIN AL DONIA FROM USA said:
The article is fine and dandy. Most readers on this website already know these things. The main focus should be to get articles like these out and rolling in mass American media and in the hands of wide-eyed gullible white people who really think America is "The world" and its only true friend is only Israel. The focus should be to wake the real, honest, hard-working, fun-loving Americans and let them see how these Jewish Americans are leading them to the real Armageddon that is looming ahead.
2003-02-17
KLAAS FROM USA said:
John .. Norman seems to confuse his brand of filthy zionism with Islam. The same Islam that Jews used to call a mercy from God.
2003-02-17
MONTANA SKIES FROM USA said:
Another disappointing dive into John Norman's mind landed me on hard concrete. Who invented the terms Crusade and Crusaders? Merriam Webster defines Crusade as medieval Christian expedition to the Holy Land. Where knights in shining armor butchered their way through the defenseless population of Palestine -and Jerusalem where your fellow Jews were put to the sword also.
But -thank you Lord Maker- a one Saladin rose and -he was born in Iraq, by the way- irrigated the plains of Hitteen with the crusaders' blood -50,000 or more of their rotten corpses littered the land. They were fit as animal fodder, for their heinous crimes, not for suitable burial.
As for "It is Islam that does not believe in equality of beliefs, that believes in dhimmitude and the subservience of non-Muslims to Muslims."
People of all faiths -including the idolatrous Hindus work and get paid in Saudi Arabia -the current cradle of Islam.
For the peopel of Iraq: John Norman please meet Madelien Albright who, when asked on 60 Minutes if the death of 500,000 Iraqi children was a good price to pay for the sanction she answered yes. I lived in Iraq for 18 years, 5 of which were under Saddam. Why were children healthy and cared for from Irbil to Basrah? It's not a trick question, but one that demands an answer nonetheless. Although Saddam was a tyrant, he didn't starve his people when goods were flowing in before the embargo. But when the Western tyrants decided to punish the people of Iraq, naturally the bastard would hog the best for himself and his ilk. The West was guilty by association.
Here's the problem with you: It's the easy path to choose to be a polemist, it obviates truth seeking and fact-finding; you just spout lies, filth and unsupported inanities.
But -thank you Lord Maker- a one Saladin rose and -he was born in Iraq, by the way- irrigated the plains of Hitteen with the crusaders' blood -50,000 or more of their rotten corpses littered the land. They were fit as animal fodder, for their heinous crimes, not for suitable burial.
As for "It is Islam that does not believe in equality of beliefs, that believes in dhimmitude and the subservience of non-Muslims to Muslims."
People of all faiths -including the idolatrous Hindus work and get paid in Saudi Arabia -the current cradle of Islam.
For the peopel of Iraq: John Norman please meet Madelien Albright who, when asked on 60 Minutes if the death of 500,000 Iraqi children was a good price to pay for the sanction she answered yes. I lived in Iraq for 18 years, 5 of which were under Saddam. Why were children healthy and cared for from Irbil to Basrah? It's not a trick question, but one that demands an answer nonetheless. Although Saddam was a tyrant, he didn't starve his people when goods were flowing in before the embargo. But when the Western tyrants decided to punish the people of Iraq, naturally the bastard would hog the best for himself and his ilk. The West was guilty by association.
Here's the problem with you: It's the easy path to choose to be a polemist, it obviates truth seeking and fact-finding; you just spout lies, filth and unsupported inanities.
2003-02-16
AREADER said:
Unfortunately sir, you have not but looked at the face value of the attacks on Iraq. If America so desperately wanted the oil fields, then why did they back out in '91? The Gulf War was clearly won by the Americans, so there was ample opportunity for the U.S. to control these gold mines of fuel, however, we chose not to. You like to point fingers at others and say they lie, but you can only say that the so called "facts" that Colin Powell brought up are apparently "lies"? But where is your proof of these lies? How do you know they are lies? You feed other people's minds but don't really know the truth yourself. And you say that America is out to attack Islam, but why are they making plans to protect Turkey, which consists mostly of Islamics... and why don't we attack the Muslims living among us in the U.S.? You say Islam is for peace, but why is it that the Koran speaks hate against the "infidels" Jews and Christians? I'm afraid that you have been believing lies. Why have Muslims declared war on Israel? Americans don't fight for greed, but fight for freedom from the threat of terrorism. We will not attack many Islamic nations, but we have been attacked by them all. You continue to call us liars, but again where are our lies? The truth will be known. Peace does not come from the destruction of your enemies, but from Jesus Christ and learning about him. When is the last time you read the bible about Jesus Christ? Try reading the book of John... and your eyes will be enlightened
I witness that there is a diety between God the Son (Jesus Christ of Nazareth) and God the Father. Who has been since the beginning of time the same and shall remain the same forever. John 1:1-3. We will all be accountable to the God of Abraham, Isacc and Jacob.
I witness that there is a diety between God the Son (Jesus Christ of Nazareth) and God the Father. Who has been since the beginning of time the same and shall remain the same forever. John 1:1-3. We will all be accountable to the God of Abraham, Isacc and Jacob.
2003-02-16
PEACE PROPHET FROM EARTH said:
Islam needs to become associated with those that fight against racism. If people are selling bumper stickers that that say things like "No Muslims...No Terrorists" then someone needs to get physical evidence and post it to web sites across the internet. Then they need to get in contact with the Southern Poverty Law Center. This is one of the oldest and most successful institutes against the promotion of hate and racism. They know well the anti civil rights practices of groups like this. With this war and the racism of the people that promote it there will be an increase of strength in groups like the neonazis and the KKK. This is to the benefit of no one.
Those that would fight against hate and war are the people that Islam must accept and promote. This is the true meaning of Jihad within society. It will take people that will work with the police against hate crimes and those that promote it. The manufactures of the bumper stickers should be tracked down and exposed. This will take private investigation and careful exploration. And for this the American converts should be supported. They are your best resource for understanding and information. They are the only ones that can move within these circles.
Those that would fight against hate and war are the people that Islam must accept and promote. This is the true meaning of Jihad within society. It will take people that will work with the police against hate crimes and those that promote it. The manufactures of the bumper stickers should be tracked down and exposed. This will take private investigation and careful exploration. And for this the American converts should be supported. They are your best resource for understanding and information. They are the only ones that can move within these circles.
2003-02-16
JOHN NORMAN FROM UK said:
Just two points in answer to this farrago of nonsense. It is Islam that has been an aggressive, colonialist, imperialist power ever since it burst out of the Arabian Penininsula, 1400 years ago. If we want to talk about Crusades, best talk about Muslim Crusades, from the Atalntic to the eastern gates of India and beyond. It is Islam that does not believe in equality of beliefs, that believes in dhimmitude and the subservience of non-Muslims to Muslims.
As for the people who are dying as a consequence of UN sanctions against Iraq, they are dying as a direct result of Saddam's policies and his syphoning off of money that should have gone directly to the Iraqi People. Who needs eight Palaces: only a megalomaniac like Saddam.
As for the people who are dying as a consequence of UN sanctions against Iraq, they are dying as a direct result of Saddam's policies and his syphoning off of money that should have gone directly to the Iraqi People. Who needs eight Palaces: only a megalomaniac like Saddam.
2003-02-16
BELIEVER FROM USA said:
This is a great article. I finally understand, and I am not alone. More Americans are learning the truth and more and more are waking up everyday to the manipulation and lies that bleed us for the sake of a few elite which includes those zionists and their allies. Time is running out on them, God will put an end to their injustices.
2003-02-16
MONTANA SKIES FROM USA said:
Here's to Andy Smith, the pompous and deluded.
The mere steely resolve of the Palestinians in the face of the Zionist onslaught should be a spit in the face of your elders. Jewish history is just as God decreed even in the Pentateuch -fraught with insecurity, fear, persecution and scatter among the nations, even if you have your precious Israel right now.
What is happening in Israel right now? It's a rhetorical question, of course, with the obvious answer being lack of security, fear, economic devastation (yes, your smiling war criminals are here begging for more money,) and an obvious ostracizing by the rest of the world of Israel. Fifty years or so is nothing, the mill of God grinds slowly, but it grinds to a fine powder. You cannot escape your fate; you cannot change God's decree. Once again you took by force a land promised only to a people who will keep their covenant with God, not a secular state that allows every conceivable ungodly vice from pornography to abortion to the flourish of atheism to nauseating abuses of human rights. Rest assured you'll not have God's blessings this way (they don't come in the form of military might.)
Not a lot is being said against Israel, but there are a lot of simmering bosoms. And it's only a matter of time (maybe not in your lifetime or mine) before things are back to the historical norm for the loathsome elders of Zion.
Your elders may have the Protocols, but we have the Quran. Chapter 17: Verses 4 to 8, read if you have the courage. We did it before in Quraidah, Nadeer and Khaiber, it can be done again.
Long live Palestine!
The mere steely resolve of the Palestinians in the face of the Zionist onslaught should be a spit in the face of your elders. Jewish history is just as God decreed even in the Pentateuch -fraught with insecurity, fear, persecution and scatter among the nations, even if you have your precious Israel right now.
What is happening in Israel right now? It's a rhetorical question, of course, with the obvious answer being lack of security, fear, economic devastation (yes, your smiling war criminals are here begging for more money,) and an obvious ostracizing by the rest of the world of Israel. Fifty years or so is nothing, the mill of God grinds slowly, but it grinds to a fine powder. You cannot escape your fate; you cannot change God's decree. Once again you took by force a land promised only to a people who will keep their covenant with God, not a secular state that allows every conceivable ungodly vice from pornography to abortion to the flourish of atheism to nauseating abuses of human rights. Rest assured you'll not have God's blessings this way (they don't come in the form of military might.)
Not a lot is being said against Israel, but there are a lot of simmering bosoms. And it's only a matter of time (maybe not in your lifetime or mine) before things are back to the historical norm for the loathsome elders of Zion.
Your elders may have the Protocols, but we have the Quran. Chapter 17: Verses 4 to 8, read if you have the courage. We did it before in Quraidah, Nadeer and Khaiber, it can be done again.
Long live Palestine!
2003-02-16
KAYED FROM USA said:
Article is average in quality but very biased .. I am an Arab and know the facts. Americans are not the nicest people on earth but we are not either. Islam says either us or martyrdom .. No room for sharing anything. Saddam Hussein is a killer " Bush may be too!" but guess who can win now ... No Saddam no more. Islam screwed us the arabs nation and put us back 100's of years .. It is the reason why we are behind .. Look at the Taliban and reply to me on that. Look at every islamic country since Othman and tell me that we are better than what the people say about us. Solution? Democracy, Freedom of relgion, 100% separation of state and relgion, Islam should not be protected by the goverments and people need to be allowed to think freely, Regimes like Saudi Arabia should be burned in their oils for all the damage that they caused the poor arab people every where wlse in the World... Are you convinced? I don'th think so because we learned to be controlled by our hormones and feelings and not our brains and for that we deserve what we get from the rest of the World. Don't be even encouraged by the support that we are getting from Europe lately because even that is coming NOT OUT OF REspect but out of petty .. God bless
2003-02-16
MADMAX FROM MAROC said:
Assalamu Aleikum Hatim, if you and others want to waste time with ignorant people suffering from anachronism disorder then it's your choice.
2003-02-16
HATIM FROM D.S.A said:
again esther shows the views of those whose hearts are full of hate and prejudice.. the koran shows that God asked the jews to enter the holy land and the koran says that will come back and cause more mischief as they did the first time (at the time of jesus) but this time god will send his servants (Muslims) who will stop their menace..
2003-02-16
ANDY SMITH FROM USA/ISRAEL said:
The elders of Zion will decide the fate of the world. We decide and control the world. The US administration and others governments are under our control. We have our agents/sleepers in the American and European bureacracy. We direct them to do what is best for Zionism and Israel. They will not only do our bidding but even fight wars on our behalf so that they spill the blood.
Long Live Zion and Israel.
Long Live Zion and Israel.
2003-02-16
OMER KHAN FROM USA said:
For Esther & Others: Plaese read:
5-32....Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.
5 -64. The Jews say: "(Allah)'s hand is tied up." Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for the (blasphemy) they utter. Nay, both His hands are widely outstretched: He giveth and spendeth (of His bounty) as He pleaseth. But the revelation that cometh to thee from Allah increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. Amongst them we have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Judgment. Every time they kindle the fire of war, Allah doth extinguish it; but they (ever) strive to do mischief on earth. And Allah loveth not those who do mischief
2-111. And they say: "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful."
5 -18. (Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of Allah, and his beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)"
5 -66. If only they had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course: but many of them follow a course that is evil.
62-6. Say: "O ye that stand on Judaism! If ye think that ye are friends to Allah, to the exclusion of (other) men, then express your desire for Death, if ye are truthful!"
2-94: Say: "If the last Home, with Allah, be for you specially, and not for anyone else, then seek ye for death, if ye are sincere."
Source: (also other indexed topics)
http://islamicity.com/mosque/TOPICQ/J.htm
5-32....Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.
5 -64. The Jews say: "(Allah)'s hand is tied up." Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for the (blasphemy) they utter. Nay, both His hands are widely outstretched: He giveth and spendeth (of His bounty) as He pleaseth. But the revelation that cometh to thee from Allah increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. Amongst them we have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Judgment. Every time they kindle the fire of war, Allah doth extinguish it; but they (ever) strive to do mischief on earth. And Allah loveth not those who do mischief
2-111. And they say: "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful."
5 -18. (Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of Allah, and his beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)"
5 -66. If only they had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course: but many of them follow a course that is evil.
62-6. Say: "O ye that stand on Judaism! If ye think that ye are friends to Allah, to the exclusion of (other) men, then express your desire for Death, if ye are truthful!"
2-94: Say: "If the last Home, with Allah, be for you specially, and not for anyone else, then seek ye for death, if ye are sincere."
Source: (also other indexed topics)
http://islamicity.com/mosque/TOPICQ/J.htm
2003-02-15
ISMAT ABBASI FROM CANADA said:
this article is excellent. well done. I have all my prayers for Iraqis and Saddam. Husain. Whenever I looked at him I used to say God Beless you My brother(Saddam Husian). Now we need to save our beautiful Islam, and we need to remove the terrorist spot from the Islam's beautiful face. let the mad dog barks. Metion onething Israelis can speak Arabic, they look like Arabs, it means 19 hijackers were israelis who were on the board (9/11)with arabic's names and papsports. God Bless you.AS- Salaam-Wa-Aliakum and Khuda Hafiz wa Nasir.
2003-02-15
ESTHER FROM USA said:
Read Quran 17:104. Israel was given to the Jews by God. Also it is the Muslims trying to take over the world. They tried to take over Europe before the Crusades, and they want to take over India.
2003-02-15
