National Baptist leader makes 'hate-filled' Islamophobic remarks
Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a national Islamic advocacy group today called on President Bush, other elected officials and leaders of national Christian and Jewish organizations to help defend America's image and interests in the Muslim world by repudiating "hate-filled" Islamophobic remarks made at the annual gathering of the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) in St. Louis, Missouri.
CAIR made that request after the Rev. Jerry Vines, pastor of First Baptist Church of Jacksonville, Florida, told SBC conventioneers that the Prophet Muhammad was a "demon-possessed pedophile" (Rev. Vines is a former SBC president). Rev. Vines added that, "Allah is not Jehovah either. Jehovah's not going to turn you into a terrorist that'll try to bomb people and take the lives of thousands and thousands of people". When asked by reporters to condemn those bigoted remarks, both the outgoing and incoming SBC presidents said they supported Rev. Vines and his statements.
"This type of deeply offensive, bigoted and inaccurate rhetoric hands a victory to those who wish to drive a wedge between Muslims, Christians and Jews," said CAIR Board Chairman Omar Ahmad. "Reckless Islamophobic statements from individuals regarded as leaders in their faith community will harm America's image and interests worldwide and will serve to divide Americans at this time of national crisis", said Ahmad. He added: "Muslims revere the Prophets Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad as the ultimate moral and ethical role models who would never commit any act contrary to God's eternal message".
Ahmad quoted the Quran, Islam's revealed text, which states: "Say ye: 'We believe in God and the revelation given to us and to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between one and another of them.'" (2:136)
He added that anti-Islamic rhetoric by respected religious leaders could lead to more hate-crimes against ordinary American Muslims. A recent national poll indicated that "nearly 75 percent of Muslim Americans either know someone who has or have themselves experienced an act of anti-Muslim discrimination, harassment, verbal abuse or physical attack since September 11".
There are an estimated seven million Muslims in America and some 1.2 billion worldwide.
Topics: Christianity, Council On American-Islamic Relations, George W. Bush, Government And Politics, Islamophobia
I once was a Christian God fearing woman. I left because of people like you. You Christians claim to love God. God taught love. Jesus taught love and respect and tolerance. You have the nerve to condemn a group of people whose religion you don't even take the time to understand. I am now Muslim, I don't drink, smoke, take drugs, or run around with men. I am modest and kind to my parents, I am taught not to steal or cheat or lie. I am taught to respect people and show them kindness. My religion is love and peace. Those on the media such as Osama bin Laden call themselves muslims. THEY ARE NOT! Just like David Koresh in Waco called himself a Christian! There will always be nuts and psychopaths in any religion. Stop lumping the murderers with Islam. You might know priests are Christians and some are convicted of child molestation, so does that mean the Christians are all child molesters! If you believe in Jesus then I suggest to practice what he preached. Mercy, peace, love and understanding among all people. Signed a proud muslima, Glori
through a crisis.thank you for the beautiful
quatation from the Quran for the wise and faithful it is enough.
May Allah give all of us the srength to stand the crisis and explain the message of Allah to everyone.
"Verily, those who annoy Allah and His Messenger(SAW) Allah has cursed them in this world and the Hereafter, and has prepared for them humiliating a torment" Quran 33:57
Rev.Jerry Vines the Swine because ALLAH(THE ONE AND ONLY)Jalleshaanehu already informed the Muslim ummah thru His beloved Messenger, The Heartbeat of our Hearts Prophet Muhammad Mustafa Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam-- in Surah Al-Baqarah
of the Holy Quraa'n,:"That the jews & christians can never be true friends of a Muslim".
ALLAHU-AKBAR....ALLAH, His word was,is and will always be true.
Only by loving and holding dear the Sunnah of our beloved heartbeat Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam, ALLAh's dearest Habib can the Muslim Ummah hope to remain steadfast in these times of harsh trials and troubles.
To get the most out of life it is only natural to get married as soon as possible.
It appears that Baptists have a problem with hatred.
Peace to ALL.
I think if legal action and charges can be brought on him should be done.
His supporter is also deplorable.
I am glad to note that there are many people of other faiths are also deploring him.
Muslims and others are here to stay. They have burnt their boats to make the west their home.
They cannot be terminated.
* Watch your thoughts before they become words.
* Watch your words, before they become actions.
* Watch your actions before they become habits.
* Watch your habits before they become character.
* Watch your character before it becomes your
* Save your destiny before it is too late.
Many people utter grave words before giving it
much thought. Haste is waste. Haste is from Satan and from ignorance. A person with knowledge
speaks slowly, thoughtfully and with great care:
otherwise he remains silent.
I quote Rumi:
Moslems and Christians and Jews
raising their hands to the sky
their chanting voice in unison
begin to arrive
how happy is the one
whose heart's ear
hears that special voice
as it begins to arrive
clear your ears my friend
from all impurity
a polluted ear
can never hear the sound
as it begins to arrive
he has no moral jdgement on any one.
i do hope that he is not a molester and trying to divert the attention away from him and his fellow preists and reverends.
of one's religion only direct those with sincere
questions about Islam to Islam. This is suppose
to be a man of principle? As a christian, I was
distraught,confused at how incomplete the bible
was. Oh yeah, depending on which one you read.
In the bible it states that Jesus (PBUH) was
tempted by the devil for 40 days. It also states
that GOD, ALLAH (SWT) cannot be tempted. Jesus
(PBUH) cried out 3x's to GOD, ALLAH (SWT) to
remove the cup of death from him. It states that
Jesus, ESAU (PBUH) raised the dead, okay who did
he pray to ??????????? JESUS, ESAU (PBUH) is his
only begotten son? Astaghfirullah ! This is mere
blasphemy. The same bible, King James Version
states that David, Dawud (PBUH) as the only
forgotten son, Astaghfirullah ! David , Dawud
was born before Jesus, Esau ! Get it right! Allah
(SWT) is self sufficient! Has all,knows all and
the sustainer of all. SELF SUFFICIENT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Issac (PBUH) as the first son of prophet Abrahim
(Alaihis Salaam)? Even in your own bible, yet you
continuously negate the facts. Ismael (PBUH) is
the first born. Sarah (PBUH) asked her husband to
go unto their egyptian maidservant, Hagar because
she could not produce a child. After conception,
of Ismael (PBUH), Issac (PBUH) was born. How many
wives did Solomom have ? 700 with 300 concubines?
You wonder why sooooooo..... many are converting
to Islam, the one true religion. The list can go
on. Read the Quran, The true book, the only book
that remains in it's original state.
I would urge the people that are following these charlatans to do themselves a favor by preventing these limited minds from doing the thinking for them, as much as I hate to say it, this shall backfire sooner or later. Get yourselves and your children into the habit of learning about others and their cultures, about what pleases and displeases others, open up your minds and encourage your children to do the same. Finally I am addressing this especially to mainstream America, you may not be aware of this, believe it, learn it, our beautiful planet is called Earth (in English) not America.
I have the following saying from Mister Ahmed Hulusi printed in very large fonts, framed and hung on my office wall, it would not be such a bad idea for others to do the same.
"The greatest barrier for a human that bans him from seeing the truth is his approach with prejudice. "
I would urge my Muslim sisters and brothers to be grateful for being informed just like brother Abdullahi wisely stated. The more we find out the true nature of those religious and political leaders, writers and other charlatans and unfortunately as well as of the majority of the non-Muslim populace, the better it is for the Islamic Ummah. In my humble opinion this is one of the best (bitter) medicine we need in order to cure a disease called COMPLACENCY that has ravaged our Ummah for over a century now.
Do not take it on any of these mediocre leaders that are representing their nation, as you will be wasting yourself, BESIDES, WHAT ELSE IS NEW here? We are fortunate to be Muslims and I would encourage you to always defend Islam and also urge you to make use of your God given intelligence, mental health and other God's granted means to educate yourself and your children on every useful science and discipline, and whenever possible educate others about Islam.
However these so-called religious and political leaders are doing more harm to their own people than to us for we already know what the real issues are, and praise to Allah we are dealing with "our problems" slowly but surely.
My impression is that the National Baptist leader is following the American politicians who have openly come out and made derogatory remarks about muslims and all to do with muslims way of life.It's purely meant to make muslims in America and worldwide feel on edge.This is a deliberate ploy to attack us the muslims for telling them the truth that Jesus P.B.U.H. is only a messenger of God and not God himself.When innocent muslims were being butchered in Bosnia,Palestine and Iraq no muslim leader or religious leader came out and attacked christians and insulted the prophet Jesus P.B.U.H. because he is more important to muslims as his teachings are from the real God,and not the man God.He informed the world of the future coming of the prophet Muhammed P.B.U.H.Yet they claim to follow their book ,but conviniently forgot the real message of Jesus which was that he had come to fulfill the Ten Commandments of Moses and not to start a new religion.He wanted to put the Jews onto the right path and also took the liberty to declare that a comforter will come and He (Muhammed P.B.U.H.) will guide the whole world to righteousness and onto the right path .When the christian religion dbecomes desperate this is what they get up to ,and the remarks of the national baptist leader is not unexpected.The Holy Quran couldn't be inaccurate.
sound knowledge about Islam as well as history.
But most of all, his remarks reveal his intense
prejudice. I want to tell rev. about the fate of
a person who spoke evil & unjust words about Prophet Mohammed (SAS). He died soon and was buried in the grave. Next day the earth spit him
out under open sky. Three times he was buried and
each time the earth vomitted him out. Subsequently
his corpse was left unburried. Rev. ought to fear Allah and His severe punishment, not only in this
world but in the Hereafter. My advice to Rev. is
keep his big mouth shut and control his offensive tongue. My own opinion is that the rev. is a bigot who should go to school of mannerism to get
lessons in public relations and humility. It would pay for him to remember that Jesus(pbuh)
taught his followers humility. I suggest the rev.
to read his bible (esp. book of Matthews)- rev
would excite angry remarks from muslims all over the globe. The rev should retract his evil remarks
and tender public apology to global muslim community.
Monstansar, I totally agree with u. And Roschelle, become a little bit more educated before u go on saying that the hijackers were Muslims
Lack of education and the inability to keep our heads calm.
Islam will prevail (a promise made in the Quran), all we have to is to live up to the Quranic expectations.
The Pastor has insulted the Prohet Mohammed and should be prosecuted under Blasphemous Law.
Only is islam you see that Mohammad (peace be upon him) live, work, and prayed will every types of people like black, brown, and any colors.
We muslim need to unit and pick a leader who live like Allah want to and fear him, like the companion (Omar(RA), Usman(RA), Ali(RA)) of Mohammed (Peace be upon him). Than we can fight any body with Allah help.
Brothers and Sisters this is a very upsetting article to read but insh'allah may Allah give us the patience and emaan to deal with these weak and hatred filled comments towards this beautiful religon called Islam. Islam is not a racist religon but one of peace and modesty. As stated in a hadith , the characteristic of Islam is HAYAAT, - shame / modesty.
All i can say in reponse to those facist and pathetic remarks is that as Muslim we are condemned, verbally attacked and called terrorists if we speak out or opinions on contraversial matters yet if anyone else does its accepted and freedom of speech? I think this society needs to re-evaluate its idea of bias and justice
I would like to ask him if he calls Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) a "demon-possessed pedophile" then HOW OLD WAS Bibi Marium when she conceived Prophet Jesus (PBUH) ? She was 13~14 years old when she gave birth, which makes her 12~13 years old when she conceived the Prophet of Allah. How come this is not sick (which it isn't, according to the cultural difference) and Prophet Muhammed's marriage sick? May Allah forgive me.
As far as the image of the United States goes, it is as hollow as the leaders of this SBC.
We are Muslims and Islam does not allow Nationalization. You cannt be a Muslims and an American or Saudi or Yemeni. You are only muslim. Your origin could be Saudia or Yemen but not the identity.
Jazak Allaho khairun