We, the under signed national Islamic organizations resolve the following:
1. We reiterate our unequivocal condemnation of the crime committed on September 11, 2001, and join our fellow Americans in mourning the loss of up to 6000 innocent civilians.
2. We reiterate our support for bringing to justice those who are responsible for planning, executing or knowingly helping to carry out this crime. In so doing, we believe that all legal provisions, and procedures of law, national and international, must be adhered to.
3. We believe the bombing in Afghanistan is not in the long-term interest of our country or the world at large. The bombing victimizes the innocents, exacerbates the humanitarian disaster, and creates wide spread resentment across the Muslim world. Allowing thousands of innocent civilians to die in the harsh Afghan winter will only serve to weaken the global resolve to root out terrorism. The senseless starvation of women and children will fuel hate and extremism.
4. We call on our government to urgently reassess its action in Afghanistan, and to cease the bombing campaign and other military actions. Our government should seek a more effective and long-term strategy to deal with terrorism and its causes, whether such violence is committed by individuals, groups or states. We feel that international disputes should be resolved through UN mechanisms and in accordance with its charter.
5. As American Muslims, we stand ready to help our government in building bridges of understanding with Muslim countries, and assist in removing root causes of misunderstanding, grievances and conflict. We also express our opposition to the extension of bombing to other countries. Such attacks will aggravate an already explosive and destabilizing situation.
6. As Americans, we believe that it is not only our right but also our civic duty and responsibility to express our sincere views of what is in the long-term interest of our country. We strongly reject any suggestion that opposing a certain policy of our government is tantamount to disloyalty. This suggestion is undemocratic, unfair and un-American.
7. Finally, we express our concern about the possibility of unconstitutional measures in new antiterrorism legislation, which may curtail civil liberties in the name of security. Such measures are unlikely to make Americans safer and may be applied in a discriminatory manner against American citizens and lawful residents from specific ethnic and religious groups.
We pray to the universal God of all to bestow His mercy, healing and peace on all humanity.
Muslim American Society (MAS), Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), Muslim Alliance of North America (MANA), Muslim Student Association (MSA), Islamic Association for Palestine (IAP), United Association for Studies and Research (UASR), Solidarity International, American Muslims for Global Peace and Justice (AMGPJ), American Muslim Alliance (AMA), United Muslim Americans Association (UMAA), Islamic Media Foundation (IMF), American Muslim Foundation (AMF), Coordinating Council of Muslim Organizations (CCMO), American Muslims for Jerusalem (AMJ), Muslim Arab Youth Association (MAYA)
There is a few reasons why Afghanistan is being retaliated, brothers and sisters, one is because of sept 11 (public feelings obviously ran high, the US administration had to be seen to be doing something)but the most imporant reason why they are being attacked is because of the caspian basin , which has huge amounts of untapped oil reserves which would fuel the US for the next 30 yrs. Afghanistans geographical location makes it ideal for pipelines to run through it as its the only route that would be economically and politically viable. This would turn Afghanistan in to another Saudi type, puppet state for the US to get their claws on. Why do you think the British tried to invade Afghanistan? why do you think that Russia did so aswell? Wake up and smell the coffee people, the US has its own hidden agenda.
Opposseing the US adminstration does not make me anti-american, I have no quarrels with its people, or any human being that is not killing my brothers and sisters. I absolutly condemn sept 11 attacks, but I will refuse to apologise to any one on behalf of my religion. My religion has done nothing wrong, I do not feel the need to justify myself for being a muslim.
Salam and peace to you all
Just as surely as those 19 rabid killers flew those jets into US targets...killing thousands of innocent men, women, and children... the al-Qaeda terrorists have guided Afghanistan and its citizens to a similar doom.
The Taliban had more than sufficient time to surrender the culprits. They did not.
The responsibility of the current destruction is theirs, not that of the USA. The war and the threat of famine will exist as long as the Taliban resists and defys the onslaught of the American troops and the Northern Alliance.
The fanatics have shown they prefer death to reason or peaceful surrender.. seeking their reward for dying in "Jihad". The Americans will gladly oblige their choice.
As for curtailing civil liberties of suspected terrorist in the name of security, I would like to remind you the suspected terrorists and accomplices are NOT citizens of the USA. They are, at best, sympathizers with an enemy that has declared war on America....and, at worst, spies and saboteurs who need to be quickly tried and executed via off-shore military tribunals if necessary.
Any support or aid given to the fanatical enemies of the United States of America will align that person or group with those enemies making themselves subject to the full might, awesome power, and terrible swift sword of a great Nation avenging its dead.
the actions being carried out by America are shocking, not only has America wrapped countries Pakistan around thoier finger but have also used them and other countries in the world to make it sound as though the actions they are carriying out are right when there not. when they are being carried out without any proof of who was behind the devastating attacks on september 11th. i too along with millions of muslims condemn the attacks which took place , but do not agree that that the way around it is to go and bomb one the poorest countries in the world. They do have the whole of muslim worlds sypathise , yet they do not want to carry out any thing which may mean not destroying the whole Afghanistan, we all know that they do not where the so called terrorist 'Osama Bin Laidein' is. in my opinion they are trying to get rid of him because he has true faith.were is the proof that he was behind it?, what happend to Amercias justice sysytem? whay is that , now the guythey suspect of being behind these attacks can be killed, bush wanting him 'dead or alive'. and finnaly what happend to the muslims?,here in England,teenage muslims are embrassing the faith of islam by runnuing roit over small things, yet when it comes to protesting as they brothers and sisters are in ytrouble there isn't they can do.
so, i feel that the muslims should unite, make sure the world knows that there is a clear difference between Jihad and terrorism and what islam reallly means.we should not remain backwards and spread islam with peace.
Unfortunately our Muslim countries leader are brought to their seats by the approval of the Americans and its allies otherwise they will never be there. Look at the Gulf countries leaders they all serve Americans and British and ofcourse the Israilis. Whoever goes against the will of those countries will never survive as they will declare them enemies of humanity. Look at Turkey today , Egypt, Jordan all of these countries go where the moeny is. Unfortunately our lives are no longer safe. WHo says the western countries have democray. There is no democracy in the west. There is a dictatorship in todays western countries but in different form. No one can go agianst them. Otherwise will be branded as terrorist.
the futures for our children against the VAST numbers of MUSLIM'S all over the World who only want to destroy us & ISRAEL. While the American Muslim's report every case of Racial Profiling lodged against them, your Mosques here & much more in the Arab countries, are preaching it was the ZIONIST-JEWS who bombed us on 9/11, not the MUSLIMS. Why do we hear no condemnation of such hideous lies by these American Citizens?
ALSO,,, WE STILLLLLL HAVENT SEEN ANY EVIDENCE THAT OSSAMA HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH BOMBING. WHY NOT?
Mr. Talibanana messed with the wrong mofo. Pretty stupid!
Brother Ahmed Ali
(American Muslims call for peaceful efforts to end the conflict in Afghanistan)
Reply/Comments by Alex Nodopaka
Reply to paragraph 2.
It does not seem that anyone cared to apply the same rules from the fundamentalist Muslim side! So why so conveniently Muslims want to use non-Muslim laws?
Reply to paragraph 3.
The Muslim world will never be happy with the modern state of civilization of non-Muslim countries. I see very little compatibility then or now or in the future unless some VERY smart Moslem people begin to re-interpret the words of Muhammad and that, I believe, will happen only when chicken will grow teeth!
Reply to paragraph 4.
I think the Muslims should clean their closets first within their own countries by their own and not by proxy.
Reply to paragraph 5.
Muslims in this country and elsewhere tacitly approve of terrorism against non-Muslims by having kept quiet for a long time and some by harboring and abating terrorists. As far as "removing the root causes of misunderstanding, grievances and conflict" the question is how many centuries back does one need to go to "understand" the Muslims' position?
Reply to paragraph 7.
These measures prevented immediate further disastrous attacks by brainwashed fundamentalists. I am convinced these measures will be of short duration. A thorough check of all the parasites infesting the USA and of all their contacts are of utmost necessity.
Praying will do nothing until WISE MEN AND WOMEN solve their own problems!
Saudi journalist Hamad Abd al-Aziz Al-Isa noted that bin-Laden is the only person in the world to issue a fatwa "...on October 12, 1996 calling for the killing of American civilians and military personnel...." This journalist wrote this in response to Fahmi Huweidi's conspiracy theories; Huweidi is a well-known Islamist Egyptian journalist.
What amazes me is that, according to islam.org's polls, most Muslims believe that: 1. the U.S. would be responsible for Afghanistani citizens' problems rather than Al-Qaida and the Taliban. The Taliban could have prevented ALL of this by surrending bin-Laden! The polls also reveal that most Muslims believe that this is a war against Islam. How could anyone think that when the U.S. has constantly spoken against anti-Arab reactions, dropped food in Afghanistan, and allowed Muslim imams to participate in things like the ceremony at the national cathedral? This is not a Christian-Islam battle!
My dear Muslim friends, don't be partial to bin-Laden or the Taliban just because they are also Muslim; realize that Muslims can also sin, and in this case, it is obvious that they have. Don't defend ridiculous views about a conspiracy theory. Stop blaming everyone else. I pray that God would do His will and bring justice to the situation.
I think he/she should open there eyes and realise the "Proper" American Born Blacks Muslims in America have more of a case to be in America they he/she does. This so called "American Born American" is only an immigrant like everyone else and if they cant comprehend or accept the fact other Proper Americans, Muslims and non-muslims alike, have alternative views, then "they" should consider leaving the country to where they came from.
A true American believes in freedom of speech and religion and respecting each others religions and cultures, not the knee-jerked reaction of the so called "American Born American" Jerk who is making these stupid comments
He mentions that the US are a very charatable government and believes that he couldnt say the same for the Arab Oil rich countries. I would like to point out that the US doesnt give to alternative countries aid FOR FREE, as there is always an alteria motive and interests at large.
We, the world, only see what media giants like CNN and the likes portray to us, not the full story from both sides of the coin. It is only when the general public sees boths sides of the coin, fairly and squarely, that one can make a proper informed judgment.
Military Might and overpowering force over weak countries is not the solutions to the problems we all face in this world. We need to find peaceful solutions and more importantly, we NEED to know why these problems are occuring and treat the cause not the symptoms.
The bombing and mission in afghanistan must continue whether your groups here like it or not!! Aliens do not dictate policy in this country. So like I said you know what you all can do if you don't like the government's policy. The door always opens OUT!!
It is not fair to bomb the people of Afghanistan blindly. United States is violating UN war rules.
Do not the Muslims who voted for Bush thinking that he would protect Islamic interests or even their pocket books not feel very foolish? If not, I think they should feel extremly foolish. It is obvious that bush hates Islam and Muslims although he professes the opposite. Muslims should understand that all power belongs to Allah ta'ala most high above His creation and no man, woman or child can protect anyone except Allah.
Perhaps if the Muslims followed the sunnah and Qur'an without hesitation they would be in a better state of affairs on all levels.
THIS ISVERY BAD MISTAKE AMRICA ALL KARAH AMRRICA HAR JAH AMEN,
i am glad to see that muslims are joining their voices together, but i feel that the tune in this article is a bit weak, no strong descisions as if u are ordering in a gentil way the us goverment to stop its war and to resolve its international issues via the un.
i think that if u emphasised on the importance of the muslims in the us, as number and economical force, is important in order to show that part of the us economy is in ur hands and that u can affect it positively and negatively.
finally i hope that in the future the voices of the muslims in the us and in ther world will unify to purify islam from these figures that are affecting its image and then so that the 1 billion muslims will have a voice that will be heard.
May Allah bless u
may ther be peace...inshallah
I wanna let you all know that i support all you muslims and american muslims. I hope the war stops and you should all support the people in afghanistan. I personally am donatin money for them. I have also learned alot about islam and know that it is indeed a religion of peace. All you muslims should keep ur heads up and hearts strong like you have since the sept.11th attacks. I am even considering converting to Islam this religion gives me peace of mind.
once again i love the protest and keep them up god willing this bombing will end soon.
your soon to be brother in islam,
99% of the Arabs I know (I work with many of their children, and I can tell you that of all of the ethnic groups I have come into contact with, they are very nice people and always offer me some refreshments, or food.
I was born in this country of European parents. If the US. believed they were guilty of doing anything to harm this nation, I would have no problem with letting them feel the full force of our military....religious holiday or not.
After this unfortunate situation is over with, the U.S. will open its pocket books and help the people out....which is more than I can say about some Muslim nations...Oil rich nations in the Arab world should take it those people who need help.
Are American Muslims calling for peace from their fellow religious? Are American Muslims willing to live in an Islamic state?
May be we should let the women of the world try to save us from total destruction. Mothers know the pain of child birth, and the pain of world sufferi
If one has a true understanding of being an American, freedom of religion should be familiar to you. You were partly correct when you said "I do not feel that the founding fathers had Islam in mind, only the freedom to practice Christianity and its different branches." However, many people of differring skin pigments were not included in this theory of "freedom" we call a democracy either. My ancestors were brought to this land from Africa. Before your ancestors landed here in America, Islam was here. Yes, when the Spaniards, British, and numerous other Europeans came to the America's with slaves, they brought our culture and our religion, Islam. Many people like you are confused, including some Muslims. African-Americans were practicing Islam in this country before the Arabs landed. There are 200 million Arab people in the world, do they all practice Islam? No. Islam is a faith shared by every region of the world. It is unfortunate that people lack the ability to comprehend that Christianity is not the only way of life. When you have the opportunity, I encourage you and anyone reading this that practices Christianity, to find out what Christianity is and then you can look to Islam and find no means to compare the faiths. Why do Christians worship idols such as images and statues of an interpretation of Jesus? This is not what Allah (subhannahu wa ta Alla)intended to happen. This is why the Quran was passed down to the Prophet Ahmad Mohammad (P.B.U.H.) Before making comments you must investigate why you think the way you do. Islamicity and many other sites are doing a great job in attempting to correct the eye site of those that do not know they are blind.
It becomes clearer and clearer to me that we all simply misunderstand each other.
Speaking as one who was raised Christian, I can only (at this time) understand Islam and Muslim people through my Christian "mind filter". I think Muslims try to understand others through their Muslim "mind filter". Our different upbringings and religion color the necessary clear vision we need to have of each other which is why so many Muslims feel Islam is being attacked, and why so many non-Muslims don't understand why Muslims insist Islam is being attacked when the majority of non-Muslims are thinking only of terrorists. It is unfortunate that these terrorists are all Muslim, but if they were all some other religion the Western mind (the intelligent ones) would still be thinking only of terrorists not a religion. Just as our western media focuses on the worst scenes so does the Arab media, so each side is only seeing the worst of the other. The merely human mind loves action and excitement even if it is destructive. When I find I am functioning from just a human perspective I remember I am a humanBeing not just a human. Remembering Being as my other half helps me to think and see more clearly. In this respect we are all identical - we are all human Beings, human sacks filled with the breath of God, if only we could stop distorting that.
If I cannot clearly understand the Muslim mind because I have no experience of it it doesn't matter. It is okay for me to simply honor and respect you as a fellow human being no matter how you worship the one and only God.
I truly believe as long as we live in these bodies with their imperfect, environmentally conditioned and limited minds we must respect the actions, the humanity, the compassion, the goodness of each other (remembering we are all imperfect) as the only grounds for co-existing peacefully together, otherwise we will always be at war and this planet will break beneath our hatred.
Killing innocent people either by crashing the plane into buildings or bombing the innocent people over mountains, deserts or cities will not bring peace to any one.
If USA is perceiving the war to prove that it is its right, then people who crashed the plane will also justify their actions.
Please stop this hatred and work for peaceful world.
Islam never support terrorism. Educating the western world about pure Islam is the only solution. If any one do not know what Islam means, try to understand the religion, its purity and tolerance. Then people who hate Islam, will start loving Islam and muslim.
Dear Brothers in Islam, work to educate the muslim about Islam and make them practising muslim. May Allah bring peace into every one's heart and house.
Your words are true and healing and the earth could definitely use healing through our human hearts. It's all connected. We are all connected.
Be it so, brother.
My friends, this isn't about retribution. There is but a handful of people who can answer for this heinous crime. We have an obligation, as Americans, to ensure that this never happens again--never to Americans.
Current allies, Germany and Japan, with whom America enjoys strong ties, were once the enemies of the world, because they were led by madmen. Nothing against Germans or Japanese--just the men who sought to destroy. America intervened, and the world was once again peaceable.
I hate war. I hate death. God hates war. God hates to see his children killing each other. But America is taking a stand for Right: let us not wallow in complacency and greed, but let's be wary, and rid the world of this menace: terrorism. Let's put an end to the terrorists and those who harbor them. Let's send a message, that any attack on America will be met with force.
And may we turn our hearts to Jesus Christ, the Prince of PEACE.
standards of the general public services that are expected to contract because of the shrinking economy. In the end, we only want peace for ourselves and our children and we don't think that peace can be achieved by this war.
Assalam o Alikum!@};-
The time has come to War against the all enemies of Muslims
sepecially against USA and U.K.They've attacked on MUSLIMS.
They want to kill all Muslims under the cover of Terrorism but
they dont know about us.To save Islam We can give our life in the route
of God.Being muslims We should be ready to fight Muslim's enemies.
We should believe only in God bcoz we're MUSLIM NATION.
They mightn't know Muslims could do every thing if they would,Now
This WAR 'll keep continuing till last breath,And in this war victory 'll be
muslims bcoz God with truth.
"6. ....We strongly reject any suggestion that opposing a certain policy of our government is tantamount to disloyalty. This suggestion is undemocratic, unfair and un-American."
Kind of like Sharia is undemocratic, unfair, and un-American?
"7. Finally, we express our concern about the possibility of unconstitutional measures in new antiterrorism legislation, which may curtail civil liberties in the name of security. Such measures are unlikely to make Americans safer ...."
I feel safer already.
Please stop the bombing of the innocent men, women and children. This will generate hate and anger for generations to come. The world will never see peace ever again if we resort to agression. Use wisdom and not force of brutality. Be fair and not unjust. Then you will see how easy it will be to live in peace and harmony. Another thing to remember is to stop being greedy. Wanting to be great and trying to maintain that standard of might and power will drag us in the pit of the earth. What will the end result be? This is time to comtemplate and resolve peace through JUST and not WAR!!
In todays Chicago Tribune newspaper in the editorial section a 6th grade student Nina-Marie Rodriguez in few words said so appropriately "I have a huge question and it has to do with the war and how we are taught not to use violence to solve problems. Why then is the government using violonce to solve its problems? I think that the government is giving the kids and teenagers everywhere a wrong message and is setting a bad example".
Our future generations have very bad examples to learn from and as leaders they will follow the foot steps of their present leaders. The future looks bleak. Let us fix it NOW.
A concerned member of the human race
Why in every muslim states aren't there any sit-in against terrorists?
Other people, no-muslim people are confused about muslim people general attitude towards terrorists.
So, for me, it is very important that UN Goverment could be more strong and could give a way to resolve this very dangerous situation without to kill innocents.
Thank for your attention
Yes. You are correct. I am a multi-culturist and I love diversity, i.e., spice of life. As an American my life is richer because of the ethnic stew I bask and flourish in. Too bad for you and those who must tolerate your immediate presence that your spirit is so baby-food bland. I believe you yourself would flourish in a Taliban-like environment, Western brand that is. Yes, you fit right into the skin-head, white, separatist psuedo-Christian, neo-nazi skin, don't you?
I am no pacifist however. You seem to think they are the same thing. The majority of Americans understand they are not. If I were not fat and old I would be in the service. I support the war on terrorism and whether or not Muslims feel this war is against Islam is their own issue to work out inside themselves. I can feel and see the confusion and indecisiveness of American Muslims. I am personally hoping to see more evidence on their end of a willingness, not just to enjoy a newfound freedom they cannot experience in their previous country, but a willingness to help support and maintain that freedom. AND a willingness to not be so insular that one cannot perceive or comprehend the larger world, that the majority of American minds separate church and state. We are not Christians and Jews and Kafirs fighting Muslims. We are American soldiers fighting terrorists who happen to be Muslim (this time).
Do you truly believe bombing Mecca will help them to sort through their confusion, help them in their decision? Or are you one of those itching for a down and dirty fight? Figures.
Oh, fess up. You didn't provide your country just like Muslim Hunter. Why? Your syntax is unique. Are you an American?
Islam does not mean "peace", it means submission, one who has submitted to Allah.
This bit of misinformation implies that unless one submits, one is allowed no peace.
And why is it that in EVERY nation where Moslems are in power they pursecute the minorities? Why is it that the Sharia has not been relegated to the junk heap of failed ideas with the laws in Dueteronomy? Why the hell can't you people have some kind of reformation? Every nation in this basket case region of the world is, for the mostpart, the product of European Imperialists going into retirement, drawing lines on maps, and getting the hell out of Dodge. That or some fasist or theocratic coop. Niether Palestenian or Israeli has any real claim to that land yet we get attacked for that.
We are in Bosnea protecting the Islamic community, damn it! I guess Malosovich was right.
As for Moslem Hunter, this statement will make him far less a member of the fringe. If the Moslem world, spawning terrorists at a rate that no other culture seems capable of, have a problem with us defending ourselves I would go one step further.
Nuke Mecca. Destroy an entire pilar of Islam. No haj until the waste decays. (Well, Ok. You can go in; you just won't come out alive. Martydom is your thing, isn't it?)
You may be a citizen, but you, and pacifist/multiculturist dufuses like Krysta Buckley, are anti-American hate mongers who are the enablers of terror. The hatred is well earned.
The US backed Muslims in some dire situations recently: Kosovo, Kuwait, Bosnia. As much as the US is left with a "public relations disaster" in the current endeavor, Muslims could boost their ratings in many peoples' eyes by showing solidarity. How about a few signs that show you welcome a future that includes and respects all citizens of the planet, not simply "Muslim brothers and sisters". Sorry, as a third party observer, I fail to sympathize with any group so opinionated, whether it be the West or Islam. At least the West is trying. Appreciate the freedom that allowed you (and I) to express ourselves in this way, any other faith would not be allowed one word of opinion in Middle East countries.
What exactly is America at war with right now? Terrorism? Is what Israel does on a daily basis in the middle east not terrorism? Has the US not overturned over 25 major international resolutions in the United States with their Veto in favour of Israel? How can you live in a country with such a wealth of knowledge, such an abundance of library's and computers and televisions, and still be so utterly blind, so confused, so missled? When was the last time you read ONE book on Islam, written by a Muslim? When was the last time you read ONE book on Israel? The Middle East? Palestine? American Oil Interests? When was the last time you actually READ something that didn't have to do with Robert Downing Jr.s drug problems or Britney Spears breast? What have you achieved in this life that qualifies you to come on here and make such a pathetic statement against muslims amongst you who are showing their love and support for their country, and showing intelligence in the face of stupidity and bad foreign policy?
Go and study, go read. People do not just wake up one day and decide to kill themselves. What would it take for you to sacrifice your life? What would you have to have at stake? Your wife? Your children? What could possibly justify death to you? Why are so many of these muslims willing to die?
If you love your country, then go and educate yourself, and try to understand why you seem to be targetted.
You are being scared by Anthrax hoaxes while the government is passing laws left and right that take away your civil liberties. Do you know that for ANY reason whatsoever you can now be detained and not have a lawyer present? Do you know that if you are charged or suspected of any form of terrorism you get your miranda rights taken away? You are assumed GUILTY before INNOCENT. Is that not contrary to the foundation of your country?
May God Guide you to Wisdom.
What is your major malfunction you ignorant idiot?
It is people like you and your loose hit and run inciteful comments that make people hate and distrust Americans.
Take yourself and your single digit I.Q. and crawl back into the primordial slime your ancestors climbed out of.
Do you really believe that the majority of Americans are going to tolerate the likes of you? You are an outcast, a fringe dweller who gets his kicks from inciting strong emotion. Well here it is.
We true Americans want peace and unity amongst each other. We need to learn to truly love diversity as God created it (unlike yourself).
I am an Irish/Greek American woman who is telling you and others like you that those of us who seek peace, who normally seem so mild and placid, may have to be tolerant of your words because of Free Speech, just don't attempt to manifest any of your words into action, or you may become The Hunted.
Get a life, moron.
May true peace and blessings obliterate your concept of existence - the hate you call living.
If you want the bombing to stop you go to Afganistan and bring back Bin Laden. You are muslem aren't you? Surely the Taliban would listen to you. Otherwise you are supporting them and want the terrorism to continue which it will until we get Bin Laden.
Your article is anti american at best and is meant to encite more terrorism and to get other islamic countries to join the Taliban to kill more of our soldiers.
You should all go to Afganistan and take your wives and children with you. When you have had enough watching your children and wives being beaten with whips and stoned to death in the streets you come back and tell us how much you enjoyed watching it and hoe you still think we should stop bombing the Taliban and let things continue over there.
As far as I am concerned anybody that supportes that article should be forced to go there to live. Maybe the Taliban will even store a tank in your house so we will bomb it and they can tell the world how we attacked an innocent muslem family. That is what you want isn't it.
No you will do nothing to stop the taliban because you are cowards. You call them muslem but if you support that garbage you are saying that killing the Americans at the WTC is islamic law which it is not and that just makes you pretend muslems. Liard and nothing more. You use your religion to hide behind while you attack your own country. The FBI should investigate you as to where the anthrax is coming from. Or better yet they should send all the samples to your homes so you can see what it is like if you think it is so good.
Any true muslem would try to stop the Taliban in any way they could but so far I have not seen any evidence except a very few. All you want is to take away all rights to freedom of religion and force your terroristic beliefs on the rest of the world.
we don't have anymedia to support the moslem, but I believe Allah will help us, keep patience.
GOD and ALLAH BLESS THE USA.
Also to the Muslim organizations in the United States. What do you suppose would happen to a Christian organization in Afghanistan? I think we already saw the answer to that over the last few weeks in Afghanistan and Egypt. Perhaps you should practice what you preach and thank the United States for being a country where all religions can be practiced FREE from persecution.
You are quick to condemn US action, yet you offer no solutions.
Good work. We need to continue doing what we can to make America and the world a better place for all of us.
War doesn't solve any problem. WE need to sit and talk and see what should be done to have a peace in our country as well as in the globe.
I beleive everyone likes the peace.
Thanks for the efforts.
nice for you to put out the information. I am
behind u a 100 % and i give u my support. If i
can do anything to help please e-mail me.
Sima Khan Wallace in KCMO
The extremests responsible for the terrorist acts have made it clear their objective is to destroy or country and way of life. Their stragegy is to catch us while we are at our most complacent and vulnerable. They are taught to "blend in" so that we do not suspect them. They have infiltrated every facet of American society. They are hiding behind religion and taking advantage of our liberal immigration laws as well as our heretofore liberal attitudes about "political correctness" and "civil liberties" to beat us at our own game. I am very much in favor of President Bush's proposed changes in our immigration policy. He is right on the mark.
If we as Americans do not show that we are willing to fight and die for our country, we will be destroyed. One may argue that the extremeists are in the minority. That may be so, but it only took a minority to destroy the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. They are not done. What will they do next? The loyal Islamic Americans are in just as much danger as all Americans at the hands of the extremists. We had no choice but to take swift, sure action and I believe we are doing it in the most humane way possible under the circumstances.
Please, tell me how I am to trust again after Sept. 11. I could really use some advice and reassurance from someone who understands the Islamic culture better than I. Yes, those of you who are wondering, I am w
Not once do you state that the terrorists should cease their efforts. I sincerely hope that no persons believe your slanted rhetoric. Are you ready to serve as a bridge of understanding? Then denounce the hateful statements by islamic leaders. Still waiting...
I submit that UN involvement would NOT be effective, but that it would buy time for Al Qaeda, et al, to plan and conduct more terror. By bombing their facilities into rubble, we lessen their ability to do harm. If after that the UN becomes involved, so be it.
5. AS AMERICAN MUSLIMS, WE STAND READY TO . . . BUILD BRIDGES OF UNDERSTANDING WITH MUSLIM COUNTRIES . . . .
I think this would be wonderful. Get on with it. It needs doing. In the meantime, the rest of us need to find and eliminate the people who intend to destroy our country whether we defend it or not. I believe this must be done or we won't have churches and mosques or anything else.
WE ALSO EXPRESS OUR OPPOSITION TO THE EXTENSION OF BOMBING TO OTHER COUNTRIES. SUCH ATTACKS WILL AGGRAVATE AN ALREADY EXPLOSIVE AND DESTABILIZING SITUATION.
It's true that this would likely cause further destabilization. But since they're already unstable and because many of their citizens actively seek to kill us all, I think it's best to go in to destroy those who were already causing instability before September 11th. Saddam's name comes to mind, for one.
6. AS AMERICANS, WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS . . . OUR . . . RESPONSIBILITY TO EXPRESS OUR . . . VIEWS. . . . WE STRONGLY REJECT ANY SUGGESTION THAT OPPOSING A CERTAIN POLICY OF OUR GOVERNMENT IS TANTAMOUNT TO DISLOYALTY.
100% agreement there. That's why this is a worthwhile site: varying opinions. Although the antiterrorism law may curtail civil liberties for some, this act of terrorism has affected the civil liberties of all of us. Now is the time to act and we must not falter.
Until you take this kind of action, I condemn all of your organizations and will take any and all lawful means to ensure that your lives in America are as miserable as possible.
Allah condemns you!!
The only way to make the world safe for self- governing, freedom loving people is to destory the forces that hate freedom and choice and are bent on removing the freedom of US, UK, Isreal, and all other nations where people are free to choose their government.
I do so love to see people such as Roy Hudson and others offer comments along the line of "Be American, support your country!" I ask you this, what is more American than being able to say about your government "I don't like this policy"? There is nothing more American than that freedom, that is why Americans should fight to protect it.
As an American and a Muslim I must agree with this article. You see, the Secretary of Defence has already said it's highly likely we'll never capture Bin Laden at the rate we're going. All we're going to do is create sympathy for the Taliban cause. Something DOES have to be done about terrorism, and the Taliban ARE extreme. They deny women the rights given to them by the Qur-an, and they also disobey one of the tenets of Islam which is to "follow the middle ground". That means to not take a path that is either too liberal or too extreme, but something right in the middle.
Muslims have and will continue to condemn terrorism and extremism, because that is NOT Islam.
Now to those of you that have made remarks akin to "Your people have done this, now WE must finish it." They are not OUR people any more than they are YOURS. If a man who claimed to be Christian blew up an abortion clinic, no one would say "Oh yes, those Christians, they're terrorists." But when a group who CLAIMS to be Muslim commits a terrorist act, automatically it's every Muslim and every Arab. When Timothy McVeigh blew up the fedral building on Oklahoma City Muslims did not say "A Christian extremist", and interestingly enough neither did the media, though they're quick to affiliate Islam with terrorism and the first chance they get to do so.
Again I say, the Muslim community must decide: the Taliban represents Islam or it is an enemy to Islam. If one believes the latter, there is no conflict for an American Muslim soldier. This can be the basis for common ground well into the future. But if one believes the former, why equivocate and keep up the pretense of being ?American??
ICNA: ?Any Muslim brother or sister can become a member of ICNA if he/she agrees with our goal and program.? (from the ICNA web site)
MSA: any Muslim on campus can join. For example, at USC, MSA self-describes as: a student organization comprised of Muslim students attending USC. To understand MSA, go their national web site, or better yet go from there (they provide the link) to the openly treasonous www.oureffort2001.com, which proclaims it is ?endorsed by MSA? -- and treat yourself to articles such as: http://www.oureffort2001.com/RESEARCH/TALIBAN/messiah.htm
Some if not most of these groups (e.g., IAP, AMJ) are more political than religious -- that is, they are involved in the pan-Arabic, pan-Muslim, or anti-Zionist political movements. As a consequence, I find they carry no authority when they purport to speak for Islam.
A previous poster questioned why the ISNA had not signed the document. One can safely assume they either disagree with it or intelligently recognize the foolishness of signing on to it. At isna.net, ones notes a different tone than that expressed by this document.
Sometimes it is wise to keep your mouth shut
sorry to sound so mean but these hill thugs must be stopped
we bombed germany and jappan were they muslims?
no just punks like these lunaticts in afganistan.
Are you trying to see how unpopular you can become?
be careful not all "evil doers" are beyound these borders and Im not referring to any muslims
be careful not to antaganize these people because crazy people are hard to stop no matter what there religion
may binladden and his crew meet there god as soon as possable
May all Americans live in peace
and if you are here on a visa it would be a smart time to leave for a while till this is over
consider human life to be of little value. It
sounds like they would be quite content to
have the attacks continue until the majority of
the Muslim world is condemning the States.
It's a difficult situation for Canadian Muslims
like myself. Certainly, I think the US foreign
policies that have perpetrated or prolonged
the conflicts in the Arab world are shameful
and rife with hypocrisy. On the other hand,
Canada depends on the US for so much,
defense in particular, we walk a very fine line
to sleep under the blanket of US security, but
question the methods by which they provide it.
God will watch over us all.
After seeing so many hate messages towards Muslims (on this list), I am convinced that 'the one who controls the media controls the people's opinion'. It will not be fair to blame these people for their racist comments, because these people are brain-washed by the junk they hear and see daily on their policy controled media.
It a very well written article. Surly, we should condemn the terrorsit act of Sep 11 but at the same time we, as American, shouldn't lose the morale we stand for.
I hope your voice will make up to the policy makers of this country and they will give it a serious thought. Its bothersome to learn about the innocent people dying in Afghanistan and seems like the casulty will go a lot higher due to the up coming winter.
Have no doubt that most of the citizens of this country do in fact wish the worst for Muslims and Islam. I converted to Islam a couple of years ago, alhamdulillah, and I continue to be astounded by the ignorance, arrogance, and "kill'em all" attitude of most Americans. Brothers and sisters, we must take the threats of the aggressive idiots seriously: I have read many comments posted here suggesting we that the USA use nuclear weapons! Truly, we must not put it past the Americans to attempt to exterminate Muslims just as the Germans attempted to exterminate Jews. May Allah (swta) help us against the evil doers. Amen.
Also, if this kind of rheotoric continues within the muslim community, you will only isolate your people from the rest America. Which could in turn, give credence to those who commit crimes against Muslims in the name of justice.
Why hasn't the Muslim community helped the authorities to bring in these wackos, but instead is there to drive a wedge between themselves and the rest of the americans.
and i pray to god give the peace in the world this is the best way to live to gather.the war is not good way for any body either juif or christian or muslim we all have a only one life, only with peace we will make a another haven on the earth..... in sa allh ameen summa ammmen...
Colman J. Calegar
October 29, 2001
bring the sick basterd. Usama Bin Ladin to justice
this filthy jerk will died. That is why we are bombing Afghanistan the Taliban must exit the country NOW!!! and WE WILL continued to bomb your
pathetic little country and bring Bin Ladin to justice or if we find him we will put a bullet in his brain and bring his organization to a merciful
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!!!!
ALLA SUCKS ASS!!!!!!
100%. Bombing never makes terrorists go away. It will simply
fuel their anger and allow them to recruit more effectively. The
thing that terrorists need the most to breed their kind is
repression and agression : repressive countries and policies
make for angry people, and some of them will then resort to violence; agression provides "evidence" they use to convince
of their correctness. Using either or both tools to fight
terrorism is illogical, stupid, and will simply escalate things.
Please contine being a voice of reason in a world seeminlgy
ruled by emotion and short-sightedness.
Most of the newscasts by not presenting any muslim families who perished in the 11 sept terror are creating more resentment against the people of the Middle East and anyone who resembles them. This issue should be corrected as soon as possible.
Who is Mr. Friedman, if not a jew because who is given him the right to speak on behalf of all Arab nations. He says, the Arabs want Americans to win this war because then they(the Arabs)will have faith in the American justice. I think by giving such information on talk shows he is totally misleading the American public who listen to him.
Given that we have already tried (for years) asking the host country to turn him over, without result, exactly how would you suggest we go about getting bin Laden out of his cave and standing in a court room?
In item 4 you state: Our government should seek a more effective and long-term strategy to deal with terrorism and its causes. Let's look at some of the causes:
Osama bin Laden hates the USA and wants to see us all dead. (As Americans, that includes you, too.) What strategy would you suggest to change his mind? Hint: Think about how you might convince Ted Kaszinski to stop sending out letter bombs.
Another cause: Young Moslem men living in severe poverty are being told that America is the cause of all their troubles. They are also being told that if they volunteer to commit suicide while killing a bunch of unarmed "enemies" they will go straight to heaven. What strategy would you suggest to get folks like bin Laden and the Taliban to stop telling those lies? What strategy would you suggest to ease the poverty? Sure, America is "rich." So is Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the United Emirates, etc. Why aren't Moslems doing something about the poverty problem of other Moslems?
Finally, I do agree that "The senseless starvation of women and children will fuel hate and extremism," but I don't see you telling the Taliban to refrain from killing the UN workers trying to bring in the food! Or to refrain from poisoning the food so they can blame it on America. What's up with that?
In America, everyone has a right to express such hateful sentiments -- but everyone who believes in the American ideal also has a duty to condemn them.
Your organization's statement does not do that. Instead, it completely ignores the hate that has hijacked the Muslim religion for its own purposes. To turn a blind eye to this hate shows that your organization is not seriously trying to participate in dialogue, but is merely issuing propaganda in support of those who do not believe in the ideals of America and Western democracy.
If you condemn hate, say so.
As for your suggestion about looking at "root causes," why is there no soul searching among Muslims? The root causes, if anything, lie within Islamic civilization.
How is it that Islam has produced fundamentalists capable of mass murder of innocents in the name of Allah? Whose fault is that?
And why are all Muslim countries at this time ruled by corrupt, repressive regimes? Why is the Muslim world uniformly undemocratic, uncaring about human rights, and technologically backward?
Why is there not a single Muslim country that has a robust, progressive free market economy?
Perhaps the Muslim community could spend some time examining the answers to these questions, rather than second guessing a military campaign necessitated by an unprovoked attack and murder of 5,000 innocent civilians from all of the world.
Just adhering to what we say we believe in, going by the book, there are no monsters. Simply producing the previous generation before an international court would certainly put the T in debt as far as family trust and banking issues, immediately, as well as cut off funds from the start, legally.
People in the nation of Afganistan specifically stated that they did not do '9-11' or '11-2' or whatever. Which means that if they are accused, they, as Milosevic, should answer to a court of law, with due process. That is what America pretended to believe, what changed is Congress, when people allowed monopolies to decide for them.
There are those who scheduled vacations during early Sept., those who took off, those who marched out of the building, those who reported it, among many other things, no faults really in the systems, faults with the DOD and the problems of having a monopoly.
The child of the client of opposing counsel, apparently was recruited to fight the Soviets not as a commander but as a funder over not current business expertise, but inheritance and investments. The terrorized child was celebrated as a hero for fighting the Soviets, when private money was used for that which authorities decided not to approve. The terrorized child stated they did not do 911. At which point, somehow they or their double bS or whomever, as spoken about by the T's rep at the NYC lecture, acted in a public relations video, to promote war for the sake of war to just have a war. "We want to bomb the hell out of..., then ..., then other states," s
War will stop thei lame brained terror, as they want to die, so die thay shall, with no digity, or respect.
For you to demand "peacefull" way is bull, remeber the Worldtrade center, it also had all cultures there, even your own.
Your goig again what the world agrees, TERROR must come to end, and so it shall, with the terrist to pay with no dignity. ISLAM IS NOT THE TERGET - BUT TERROR is the target!. EXPECT inicent life to be lost - this is the result of war, and the uSA have done outstanding job of keepin git down. REMEMBER WWII. Also to note - the AFANGs will have a better life when the taliban losers are going from the earth. Not ISLAM!
Furthermore, the Islamic world needs to look inward and ask why its civilization is technologically backward (despite all the oil money) and why there are NO Islamic states that are democratic, that respect human rights, or that have robust free market economies.
If you reject these goals, then say so. If you accept these standards as legitimate objectives of modern societies, then YOU should examine the "root cause" of Islam's failures in this regard.
When I look at fundamentalist Islam, I see a political movement that is angry that the Islamic world is run by corrupt, oppressive regimes and that Islamic societies are technologically backward and relatively poor. This movement wrongly blames America for the internal failures of Islamic societies everywhere.
It would have been much more rational and effective to have drawn the World community into a combined action and condemnation of the terrorist acts which have been commited against my country and if these acts are allowed to go unpunished would be very likely to spread to be used against any country which displeased the men responsible for the start of this war of terrorism.
I do not believe this to be a war of religions. It is a war for world power and my country has supported a country which has an aggressive religion. No religion should be aggressive but in the past such religions have caused world wide suffering. I personally have found no religion which I can believe in. Religion should be about love and compasssion for your fellow man. I have found none which fill that commitment completely. Human religious leaders are human and greed sometime rule their actions. I believe without religions we would still be savages, but even with it we often act worse than animals.I have respect for all religions and each man should be allowed to believe in the God of his choice.
I stand behind the Islamic followers' plea to stop the bombing and bring the world into question of finding and controlling terrorist.
You claim to be Americans, but oh yes, you are Muslim Americans! I think we know which is first on your list.
There is no outrage toward your Muslim terriorist,there are always rationalizations for their actions. It's always our fault - we the most religious tolerant country in world history.
Our support of Israel makes us the great Satin! I hate to tell you but Israel has kicked your ass everytime you have attacked them, on their own. There would not be a Muslim Terriorist problem if everytime you attacked Israel, we just let them deal with you directly to the finish. They would do what we don't have the guts to do!
If you cannot drop the Muslim crap and just be an American like the rest of us then I have a suggestion for you....or several of them:
1. Get out of our Universities, the best in the world.
2. Stop taking our money
3. Stop working in our country
4. Stop living in the United States
Frankly, we would not notice or care if you were gone tomorrow. You are benefiting from us, not the reverse.
The character and tone of this site alone is enough for me to know where you stand, and it isn't with America. If the average American (all of them) knew about this site and could visit it and read this Anti-American slop, you would truly see the wrath of America.
Unfortunately, the Average American who defends this country to his/her death won't see this crap. If they did, you could close up your 8 til lates and your 7 Elevens and you could leave the Universities and the Mosques and along with your pseudo-intellual clerics who preach hate and discontent, get on back to the desert where you are better off and happy.....as it would seem by your disloyalty.
True Patriots don't have ethnic/regilious names in front of American
I know that I will never buy anything from your ki
I find your point of view serious and legitimate even if I am not at this point ready to espouse it. All of us concerned by the issues involved (rooting out terrorism, protection of the innocent, harmonious relations between communities of different faiths, the values of American democracy etc.)are profoundly troubled by the events of the past two months and the uncertainty of the proposed solutions.
If I write to you it is simply to stress a personal conviction and one, I am sure, shared with the vast majority of non-muslims in the United States and throughout the world. What has happened and is happening must be seized as an opportunity to open lines of communication between the different communities - within the United States and across frontiers. Mistakes are being and will be made, for the past offers few indications of how to deal with the issues at hand. But whatever our religious belief, we are faced with fundamental questions relating to mutually shared values - freedom, family, and the right to a decent life secure from arbitrary and violent intervention. I cannot imagine for one moment that we will find the solution to the terrible menaces we now face if we do not do it together. As a long time observer of the scene in France where relations between muslims and non-muslims are at best distant, I count on the United States to remain true to its tradition of unity of purpose with tolerance for differences. To my mind this is the best and only answer to the destructive negation of those who declare their contempt for all we hold dear and in common.
1. This was not a "crime," but an act of war.
2. Since it was an act of war, it was committed not by criminals, but by soldiers, who are legitimate military targets.
3. While I respect your beliefs and your right to hold them and express them, foreign policy is the purview of the President of the United States, and declaration of war the purview of the Congress of the United States. The President has declared war on terrorism, and the Congress has supported by votes of 100-0 (Senate) and 434-1 (House).
4. Your view is noted. The United Nations cannot, however, mandate the destruction of capitalism and western civilization as demanded by Islamic extremists.
5. Your offer is appreciated.
6. I agree. While I disagree with your views, I will defend to the death your right to express them. At this point, I must, however, note, that this freedom of dissent and expression only occurs in western democracies of the type which Islamic fundamentalist militants are committed to destroy.
7. Issues of the constitutionality of this law, as all laws are the purview of the United States Supreme Court. Doubtless the constitutionality of this statute will be challanged and adjudicated in due course.
Please stop the Hypocrisy.
Why can't you see that?
I reject your declaration as at worst treasonous, and at best, unpatriotic and unamerican. A few more declarations like these, and the calls for tolerance, understanding, and respect for the American Muslim community will begin falling on deaf ears.
"War is not something that any human being wants, but in defense of ourselves we must fight. But, God, let us fight for peace; let us not deviate from establishing peace. Let us have peace today."
-Imam Izak-El Mu'eed Pasha
Instead of developing this long petition to complain about something you don't like -- Present a viable alternative. How many of your family members were on one of those flights, or working in one of those building, or were among the rescuers??? How many of your friends and relatives are dead or missing from this incident?
Do you think anyone, other than the perpretrators of the original crime, likes having to make the decision to take actions that regardless of the care taken are going to result in innocent casualties? And with all of their lies, how do we know what the true numbers are and who caused them. They have no problem stealing food, medicine, hiding amoung the inocent women, men, and children, so how do we know they aren't doing the killing.
I do not mean to sound cold, but when does it stop or better yet what was his purpose? The World has turned a check too many times in the past when these incidents have occured. Just what was the ultimate plan, we know there were more attacks intended. It is awful to think, but, what if??? What if the goal was to take over the US? What if they would have been successful? Would you rather be under that rule right now? You wouldn't be voicing your current opinion under that rule, you wouldn't be doing much, especially if you were a woman.
It's great to express opinions, but before condeming such actions, put some energies into viable alternatives. How do you think it feels to one of the military personnel personnel or their families and to have people against what they are doing to protect those very people?
American Muslims must make up their minds. They must either be pan-Muslim nationalist, or United States Citizens. American Muslims must realize that by siding with pan-Muslim nationalism that they are placing themselves on the outer fringe of American society and appeals such as this calls their loyalty into question.
Your silly proclamation is missing a few important points. Like, how Muslim countries should stop funding, harboring and building terror networks (Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc). Like a call for the Taliban to immediately hand over Bin Laden and the other cave-dwelling rodents. Like how, after Bin Laden and the Taliban declared war on the United States by slaughtering 6,000 innocent people, we could do anything else except respond in kind.
No one wants to see civilians killed. But that's what happens in war. The difference (which this Bull S___ document misses) is that the Taliban hijacks airplanes with 4th grade students and slams them into the sides of buildings. The US never targets civilians.
About the only thing you got right was the fact that you have every right to your opinion. Americans would die defending that right.
Should we will them dead?
So could you please write a letter to the Muslim terrorists responsible for the the World Trade Center and Pentagon bombings and let them know this. If you would have resolved to do this in the first place, the U.S. would not be bombing Afghanistan now.
1. "We believe the bombing in Afghanistan is not in the long-term interest of our country or the world at large."
By "our" country do you mean the USA or some other country? I want to get your perspective on which country you consider "ours". I think "my" country (the USA) allows for many more freedoms than most other countries in the world. We never asked for this attack. You are quite free to practice your religion here, much more than in other places in the world. Protecting "our" freedom to live peacefully, in "our" country, is in "our" best interest as long as there is a continued threat!
2. "The bombing victimizes the innocents, exacerbates the humanitarian disaster, and creates wide spread resentment across the Muslim world."
So once again the US is wrong, right? How much have we done in the world for all types of people, but yet it's never quite right. When Saudi Arabia (A Muslim country) asked us to protect Kuwait (in their own best interest) that was ok, but when we protect our own country, it's not, it's a war against Islam? When I see reports on the news, with actual video, of Muslim-American organizations which are raising funds for known terrorist organizations, and you do not condemn them for doing it, I should not be worried, right? When will you condemn those that use the name of Islam to do evil in the world instead of worrying about what "we" do?
3. "Allowing thousands of innocent civilians to die in the harsh Afghan winter will only serve to weaken the global resolve to root out terrorism. The senseless starvation of women and children will fuel hate and extremism."
If you put pressure on your Islamic brothers (the Taliban and those that support them) to just surrender, the suffering would stop! If we did it your way, we should just risk our way of life by doing nothing, allowing the camps to be rebuilt and wait for another plane to crash into a building!<
6,000 dead Americans. Who do we see about that?
2. The cowardly attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon were not in the best interest of the terrorists, Americans, or the rest of the world.
3. The bombing campaign in Afghanistan is being focused on terrorists, not Muslims. This is not a religous military action. It has nothing to do with religion. As much as you want to try and make this a religous war, it is not about religion.
4. If we give into the terrorists and address their demand in a U.N. court as you suggest, what do you think they are going to do next time they want their demands addressed? They are just going to attack us again in the future. As Americans do you want that?
Why did the ISNA refuse to sign this statement? Does any one know?
What suggestions do you offer? What would be more effective? How about Islamic nations rising up and demanding the Taliban, and any country supporting terrorism stop their support of terrorism? How about Islamic nations rising up and demanding that the Taliban, or any power harboring him, hand Bin Laden over immediately? How about Islamic nations backing up those demands with appropriate actions of their own? I believe that you truly condem what happened here on September 11, but where is your call for Islamic nations to seek a more effective and long-term strategy to deal with terrorism and its causes? Why do you call only on the United States? You want a long term strategy, but the immediate situation has to be addressed. Only then can we can talk about the long term. So if you "stand ready to help our government," what suggestions do you offer to effectively deal with the immediate situation - the destruction of the groups responsible for September 11?
peace is the way.
Why do you come here if you can't embrace the basic beliefs of American society? I will do everything is my power to changes the laws of this country to keep out people like the ones who endorse this statement. You may legally be an American, but to most real Americans you are not an American if you don't put first the interest of this country over any past allegiance. Japanese Americans showed their loyalty during World War II by fighting for the United States. No one expect to Muslims crowding the recruiting offices of the U.S. Armed Services. Where are your loyalties?
What is so disturbing to me about the Muslim faith is that those of you who claim to be peaceful and non-violent are totally unwilling to publicly denounce, condemn the type of radical Islam that permeates the followers of bin Laden. There is absolutely NO excuse for this silence. Yet there is a "deafening" silence among you. There can be no peace until you start policing yourselves and demand an end to this fanatic wing.
Won't you start now?
We'll quit when they do.
From my limited knowledge of the shari'a or koranic law - not only forms of worship and faith are specified, but also a particular organization of society, from governance and economic life to the relations between the sexes. Living in a secular society will always pose some extreme difficulty between being orthodox and desiring to restore god's shari'a as soon as possible and living in a society where unbelievers prevail and even dominate. Perhaps this is why your alligience seems to be so inclusive - you are not able to accept the prevalence of a country of unbelivers and their response to the tragedies of 9-11.
I believe that your time would be better spent exploring interpretations of islam that can accomodate a separation of religion and politics or military action. The cultural and economic forces unleashed by capitalism and modernity will continue to advance despite the regard action of fundamentalists. Women will be emancipated from the outmoded ideas of islam just as they are being emancipated from the restraints of christianity. Children will rebel against the authority of their fathers (and mothers). Change is the way of life.
I ask you to make your religion one that is able to bring comfort and peace to yourselves as well as those you now live among - and that requires a tolerance that seems to go against the current american muslim interpretation of shari'a.
I also share your dislike of the general bombing being used in Afghanistan. I would much preferr to be able to isolate the bombs to only those who were involved in those terrible acts of the 11th, but ...
The one thing I haven't heard from you is exactly HOW do YOU propose bringing those cowards to justice ... not only for the 11th, but for Africa, the Cole, the garage of the WTC previously, and on and on?
Why have you set back for so long?
I also think it ludicrous to have portraits of women in the artilce "American Muslims call for peaceful efforts to end the conflict in Afghanistan", knowing the status and tretment women are afforded in that country today.
Where is your outrage and demand for Afghanistan to turn over the slime that attacked the Catholic Church in Pakistan, leaving 16 men - women - and children dead and scores more wounded, just because they were catholic? And you didn't want US to turn this into a religious war?
Until I see and hear more concrete, positive ACTION from groups listed in this article, I am afrid that I will have to - out of self preservation - take the position of wariness in my dealings/association with ANY Muslims I come in contact with, and will have to reduce that occurrance as much as possible and feasible 'til this straightens out more.
With much sorrow:
God bless everyone during these trying times.
I urge the same United States Islamic organizations who signed the letter (Ref: IC0110-355) to redouble their efforts with a SINGLE, SPECIFIC demand for the coalition. We should demand that the coalition initiate the construction of a city on the flat land of Afghanistan. This will be a symbol of hope for the people. Let the terrorists hide in the mountains; Americans want to see hope. Americans are more concerned about securing flat land from war and building a city for the people! Bush will do the right thing, BUT we have to show him the city. Please, lets give it another try with a single VERY SPECIFIC demand of securing flat land and building a city for the people. The city will ultimately destroy terrorism as it spreads stability across the Country of Afghanistan. Islamicity.com, PLEASE send a copy of my message to all of the United States Islamic organizations who signed the letter! Please tell them that we need a single vision of a city on the flat land. If this idea is launched by these organizations, the rest of America will follow. Give everyone a chance. A city for the people is something we can all contribute toward. We need a focal point on which to initiate the fire of peace. The city will grow with the support of the world.
Because I am a plant geneticist, I would also urge a strong plan of agricultural action. We must demand that wheat be planted for the people as soon as winter ends (Yes, I realize there has been a drought). I have asked my brother, a faculty member at Texas A&M, to discuss the logistics of rebuilding agriculture in Afghanistan with Norman Borlaug (he won the Nobel Peace Prize for introducing dwarf wheat into Pakistan and India in the 1960's). A meeting has been scheduled. Perhaps Dr. Borlaug will also join in the efforts if the vision of a city is provided. Please send me an e-mail if I can help. If we want it bad enough, it will happen!!! [email protected]
I assume you condemn the violence perpetrated by Israel against Palestinians.
Have you also condemned the terrorism by Islamic radicals against the American embassies in Africa? The ongoing vicious war between Islamic radicals and the oppressive Algerian government? The terrorism by Islamic radicals against tourists in Egypt?
I wonder if you have made similar statements regarding the terrorist attacks by the Palestinians in Israel, the West Bank and Gaza.
MOST IMPORTANT, I hope you regularly condemn Islamic clerics who are inciting violence and preaching hate, murder and suicide; and that you regularly condemn the reactionary, corrupt governments that rule virtually every Islamic nation on the planet, giving Muslims little choice but to follow the path of hatred and murder.
It seems to me that American Muslims are in a particularly strong position to lead the Islamic world to personal, religious, economic, and political freedom. All they have to do is call attention to all these freedoms that they enjoy in the United States, show the rest of the world's Muslims that it can be done while remaining Muslim; and that the United States, while far from perfect, is about the best nation the human race has ever evolved, and is by no means the "Great Satan" that hate-fomenting radical clerics say it is.
If you are not doing these things, then in my eyes your statement reveals your hypocrisy. I hope you can show me otherwise.
I would appreciate a response.
Thank you. Maluhia a me aloha (Hawaiian for peace and love).
William T. LeGro
Who cares about Muslim resentment? It's our resentment that is important. If you are in a Muslim country you can worry about muslim resentment. But not here. If you are resentful about America, you have my invitation to leave.
It depends what policy you oppose and when. Now is not the time to oppose a policy to eliminate terrorists that our government has decided upon. If you don't like it, get elected and change it. Yes, you are disloyal.
The administration has already emphasized that they care about the Afghan people, only those that are not supportiing terrorists. Those that are not supporting terrorists should distance themselves from the terrorists and they won't get hurt.
Who cares, Mr. Baig, if it breeds more anger? They should be worried about OUR anger.
The US bombings are wrong because they cannot be controlled enough to protect civilians. In addition many have left their homes in fear. The winter is coming on. The suffering and death of these people is wrong and does no good.
The bombings are also wrong, perhaps more wrong, becuase they further the Bin Laden agenda: war between the West and Islamic countries. Such a war would be unspeakably evil.
There are far too many Muslims who favor such a war. There are far too many Muslims who use clever words to evade the truth about the terrorists who attacked the World Trade Center. They deceive themselves.
Many Muslim countries harbor schools of terrorism, harbor schools that train the young to fight the US. How foolish. When these youth become men, these youth trained to use war to achieve their ends, to use terror, it wil be unspeakable folly to ignore that they will first use war and terror in their own countries, in their own neighborhoods. The Muslim countries already experience their own home-grown terror. Sow death and you will reap death. They will strike first in their own neighborhoods. You know this.
I will continue to seek ways to persuade the US President to end the bombings in Afghanistan, and to remove such bombings from US strategy. Central to ending the bombings in Afghanistan is a requirement that the world, including the Muslim world, act to end terrorism. Not merely speak, but act.
Those writing this declaration could do much to hasten the day the US bombings end by exerting themselves to identify sources of terror, including Muslim terror, and further by exerting themselves to end that terror. Word games won't suffice. Pious moral poses won't suffice.
I have read the second book of the Quran. May I suggest that Muslims re-read it?
Peace to all.
In view of the points raised above, the US is believed to be a villain in this struggle which has resulted in the killings of innocents lives in a guise a to combat terrorism. The attack on Afghanistan is condemnable in every respect as well as an aggression on a population that has known nothing over the past ten years but agression and invasion from Russia. But Allah hears the prayers of the oppressed and our prayers will not be in vain, InshaAllahu.
Being the biggest minority in America your voice should carry the weight. I fully endorse your views and extend my personal support in any form if required by you.
It is difficult to speak truth against majority, but easy to express the only "truth" the "Haq" which is your concience.
Furthermore, Muslins who live in the U. S. A. want to enjoy the freedom and benefits of living here, but seem unwilling to fully integrate into our society. Yes, we are not perfect. But your good works could influence us more if you abandon violance and killing as a way of "convincing" us.
Having said this, I now have a question for you.
Have you seen on national TV the story about the professor at Florida State Univ (Tampa, FL)... a
Muslim... who openly provoked anger in the people of your faith in the USA. He not only provoked them to anger, but also collected money to be sent to terrorist groups... to the very people who attacked us on Sept. 11. Some of his speeches were taped; some of those tapes were shown on TV last night. Now my question is this.
Is this man... who enjoys the best of living in the USA... typical of Muslims living in the USA?
What would you recommend we do with him and with people like him?
Yes, the bombing in Afghanistan is causing some
casualties that were not intended. What would you suggest we do? Go find Mr. bin Laden and ask him to sit down and have dinner with us and "discuss this"? This man and his followers (Islamic extremists, to be sure) are mass-murders. Now your religion has come to be associated with him.
The least you can do is to support us while we try to find him and bring him to justice. At the same time you can help us find those who would like to mimic his behavior, whether they are Muslims or not. My appeal to you is this. If you are going to enjoy the benefits of living in the USA, then join with us and quit acting like foreigners.
Friends of my enemies are my enemies...
Article #3 speaks to the core issue that concerns me- that of "long term interest" of the US and the world, which the bombing does not support. I do not believe that the bombing makes Americans safer in the world.
I am very concerned that our leaders are naive, reactive, and revengeful... and will bring us a wider war. If we had more enlightened leaders, the US could have adopted the policy of feeding and offering medical care to the Afghan people - not bombing them. That would have done more to promote the ideals of American values than the promoting of death and more suffering.
Please, let us continue to talk together, to call for peaceful efforts together, to work together. To live together in peace. If we cannot live on this planet peacefully - there really is no hope for any of us.
JR (Portland, OR)
As an American I believe war on terrorism and the people who support it is correct, but also as an American, America proclaiming to be so technologically sophisticated and merciful in the way we war, I feel shame every time I hear of innocents dying.
It doesn't matter to me if the Taliban is not merciful, does not care whether it kills innocents, does not care to see its own people suffering and starving. I care. As most other Americans I care that we live up to the vision of ourselves that we truly are merciful and compassionate and will find a way to do the job with no innocents dying because of us.
community in the US have not been more
public and forthcoming in their condemnation
of the 9/11 attrocities. Just as prominent
Protestant clerics in Germany during the Nazi
era spoke up condemning the treatment of the
Jews and other minorities, I believe that the
Muslim community in America has a role in
interpreting American values for the many
poor and uneducated muslims in developing
countries who are victims of fundamentalist
War is war and is always filled with tragedies,
but this is the first war in history where the
attackers are dropping food and aid packages
at the same time they are dropping bombs.
The people of Afghanistan have been
miserably treated by the Taliban in the name
of Islam, but I don't recall any massive
condemnation of their brutal activities by the
Muslim community in America. Why?
As for the civil liberty infractions you anticipate you won't have to worry about that if we don't stop the terrorists now as you won't have any civil liberties. If you are doing nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about do you.
I think what you are suggesting is an insult to the 5000 people who died in the WTC and you are either cowards or people who are looking to male islam an issue.
You need to reevluate your stance as you are doing nothing but creating disgust amongst the rest of us who are sending our sons over to fight for your precious ability to disagree with our government. If you don't like what we are doing then leave and go live in a place where your people are more accepted.
It would be nice if there was a way to destroy bin Laden with the death of no innocents. There is none. Indeed, the Taliban is reportedly hiding troops and military equipment among civilians and in mosques, precisely so more innocents will be killed, hoping to provoke exactly the sort of reaction you have provided.
Initially, I believed that Bush was right to say that this is not a war against Islam. But, as I've read more and more Muslim literature, including statements like yours, I've had to conclude that we really are fighting against much of Islam, if not against all of it, or against every Muslim.
The reality is that many (most?) Muslims seem to believe that the death of 100 infidels (like myself and other Americans) is preferable to the death of 1 Muslim. As you have shown, even many (most?) American Muslims believe this.
Bin Laden apparently intended to provoke a war between Islam and the West, and to restore the Caliphate in victory over the West. I'm afraid he is going to succeed in his first objective. God willing, he will fail in his second.
the only way 2 win this conflict is to correct ur unjust and biased foreign policies!!!!
As one who enjoys the benefits of American citizenship, I am complicit in the international actions of my own elected government and obliged to consider its actions on the basis of my own convictions.
In response to those who fault the resolution for not uniting behind a specific alternative course, I would say this: If you were a passenger in a bus that had veered into the lane of on-coming traffic, would you not advise the driver to change lanes? Or would it first be necessary to consult a map and get the other passengers to agree to a singular alternative course?
We may not immediately agree on the specifics of what constitutes a proper, peaceful action. But until there are broad coalitions willing to stand up against ill-considered military aggression (at this urgent time when it demands political courage to do so), alternative solutions will have no relevance.
This resolution, at the very least, is a step in that direction.
May others follow.
May Allah help us.
It serves to reason that if your concern is that "bombing" victimizes the innocents, it seems that your time could have been more wiseley spent drafting an edict directed at the Taliban and Al Queda because the latest news is that they are responsible for about 6,000 "innocents" lying dead in "your" country.
Paragraph 3 would have read much better had it read "Mr. Bin Laden...We believe that killing innocent American civilians is not in the long-term interest of your network or the Muslim world at large".
Further, in paragraph 4 you refer to "terrorism and its causes". You are not actually inferring that there are legitimate or justified "causes" of terrorism are you??? If you are...please indicate exactly what the cause was of the act perpetrated on Sept. 11. Was it Capitalism? Freedom? Democracy? Christianity? The existence of Isreal? Please help me understand exactly what the "cause" of that attack was. Maybe going forward we can simply get rid of all of the aforementioned items so that terrorist acts will diminish because the "causes" will no longer remain.
If the senseless starving of women and children will fuel hate and extremism, why don't you then condemn the Taliban and its supporters instead of condemning the actions of our government. Again, the latest news indicates that we were dropping over a million food rations into the country while the Taliban was poisoning those rations, taking over UN food warehouses and accusing UN humanitarian workers of being spies and kicking them out of the country.
Please don't think it "un-American" if I use the same right afforded you to express my sincere view(and perform my civic duty)that this statement is absolutely disgusting and disgraceful.
your suggestion: "We feel that international disputes should be resolved through UN mechanisms and in accordance with its charter" is naive and unrealistic. your decision to oppose the present policy of our government is unhelpful, and reveals more loyalty to your muslim identity than to your identity as americans.
This naive, misguided, unpatriotic call will alienate the signatories and their supporters even more and will mark them as a foreign body on this society for good. Just be honest with yourself, whose side are you on?
am dismayed at what has taken place in Afghanistan. I do not want any civilians
getting hurt nor killed. But unfortunately...that's war! If America wanted to totally
destroy the Taliban along with the civilians, no country (Muslim or non-Muslim)
could stop it. That is the truth! As an African American Muslim, I realize (and you
should to) the Taliban are not practicing Islam and have bruitilzed it's own people.
They have given safe haven to terrorist and refused to turn them over when the
US. as well as other Muslim countries "begged" them to do so! Therefore, the
bombing and the eventual military ground intervention must continue. A new
Muslim government must be installed, that will allow the people to freely practice
Islam as it is suppose to be practiced. Not by intimidation or by a gun!
Lastly, to all those who signed this pledge asking for the bombing to stop. Why
did the same groups "beg" the United States to bomb the Bosnian Serbs?
Because innocent Muslims were being killed and the cowardly Muslim governemts
didn't send in their troops to assist them. Same goes here, the same cowardly
Muslim countries didn't liberate Afghanistan from the tyranical Taliban leadership.
They just turned the blind eye! And now when America is doing something that
they wouldn't or couldn't do, people want to critique America's every move.
I love Islam and love our prophet. Ideally we all do not want war. But we don't
live in an Ideal world. We live in a practicle world. Sadly enough, war is the
only practicle solution. Nevertheless, I am open to any sensible and practicle
solution to the situation at hand.
graffiti on a Mid-east wall
The USA must defend itself against attackers.
As an American Muslim, I support justice not revenge. The bombing must stop to let feed hungry
Afghans immediately and we must reassess our strategy to combet terrorism.
God help Afghans, Amen
It's nice that we have had another coalition of groups call for a vague and undefined end to this situation through courts and judicial process. I agree with that, and can support the concept. However, why do we NEVER see these groups ever get specific? Where are the calls on the governments that harbor the accused never called upon to extradite them to these courts? Why don't these same coalitions speak to the issue of others who would take up the banner and continue the attacks, condemning them and calling upon them to forego their plans?
It's easy and convenient to call the American government to task, to call for an end of the bombing, and to condemn the US people who seek to live their lives free from sectarian violence. Most of these communiques spend a lot of time taking up that cause. We are lately seeing additional language extolling the virtues of dissent, and proudly proclaiming collective patriotism through this dissent.
Please understand that the phrase "United we stand, divided we fall" means something. If you don't like the direction in which we are united, give us a realistic alternative on which to unite. Unilaterally stopping actions to bring the accused to justice with no suitable alternative won't cut it. Calling upon this nation to passively accept the outrages perpetrated on us won't cut it.
Please use your intellect, honor, priniciples, and voices to condemn ALL who need condemnation, to call upon ALL nations to extradite the accused for trial and punishment, and for ALL nations to end this scourge.
I don't like war. Have been there, have done that. It's ugly, destructive, costly, and creates effects through the ages. Still, as a sentient being, I understand that there are times in which war is a proper answer, if no other reasonable alternative exists.
It is very good that you wrote this. We are all against what happened on September11 and the killing of civilians. I do not think that there is any religion that approves what happened. However, why can't all of these muslim organizations that you mentioned, unite andmake one voice across North America. We should raise money and educate the American people about the injustices and the double standards, of the foreign policy on the islamic world. Especially in the middle east. We need to by a channel or two, get some educated muslims in different academic fields and make our voices heard across North America.
I fully agree with all the points in the charter, it exactly voices my opinion about the present situation and the events that led to it. The bombing of Afghanis has spurred incidents of violence across the world, including India and Pakistan, leading to a potentially extremely dangerous situation for the region and the rest of the world. The actions taken by the United States government to tackle terrorism will indeed fuel more hate and only cause more people to become disillutioned with American society, increasing resentment and undermining understanding between peoples. Please ensure that this charter is communicated to representatives of the US government, and that they act appropriately.
My question has always been as an American, why we sit back and watch injustice or even become party to the injustice? Only until it directly effects our country do we see a need to take action. Usually, this action is done in extreme anger, non-humbleness, and arrogance. We should not be party to the same ideology of whom we accuse of this crime.
Also, Americans deserve to hear the truth from our Government on the so-called evidence that they possess regarding September 11th, 2001. I think for them to proclaim someone's guilt without showing just proof, goes against the principles and ideals our country is built on.
Americans should not boo nor condemn Americans who oppose the blood let cry for violence against Afghanistan. this past week I witnessed a sad event. Richard Gere was introducing some artists and making a statement at NY Concert. He went on to state that we should pray for peace and try to be better human beings. He was booed. That was completely unacceptable and un-American.
Finally,Americans let us not become the hypocrytes we exclaim some others are. Let's take this tragedy and use it to forward the progress of our country in the numerous issues of injustice, racism, and dehumanization of those Americans in this country. Once we are able to turn the finger upon our faults and solve some of them, then we can place blame on others atrocities to mankind, not just America. Peace be unto All. Pray for the world and man to look to Allah for divine hope and peace within our souls. This is the only way for man to survive and thrive.
I fully agree with your view.The bombing on Afghanistan is not a solution to end terrorism.Its Indeed a destruction of precious Innocent lives.STOP THE WAR AMERICA.I think all Muslims should unite and ask USA to stop war.Unity is very much important in ISLAM.
I am very appreciative of all the orginizations that have participated in this latest condemnation of the terrorist attacks on 9/11. Furthermore, it is a great relief to see that we are speaking out on our country's bombardment of the most impoverished nation on earth and the innocent Muslim lives being lost. We must be more vocal and visible to mainstream America in our fight against those who take Islam as a weapon for there own gains. Jazak ALLAH khayrun.