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Salamah bin Nufail said: While I was sitting with Rasulullah a man cam to him and said, "O Messenger of Allah Horses are being humiliated (ignored), and weapons are being laid down and people are claiming there is no more Jihad and war has ended" Rasulullah said: "They are lying! Fighting has just begun! Fighting has just begun! And a party of Ummah will remain fighting on the true path and Allah will deviate the hearts of some men and Allah will provide the fighters from them until the final hour starts and the promise of Allah is fulfilled and good is on the forheads of horses until the day of Judgement. It is being revealed to me that I will be departing you soon and you would follow me while you are fighting each other and the house of the believers is in al-Shaam."

In the commentary on Al Nasa'i by al Sindi, he states that:

"'Humiliating horses" means ignoring them and belittling their importance or not using them for combat. "Now fighting has started now fighting has started" the repetition is to reveal the importance of the message and it means that fighting is only increasing and that Allah has just prescribed it so how can it so soon? Or it means that the real fighting has just begun because so far they have been fighting only within their territory, the land of the Arabs, but now is time for them to carry the battle to further lands. "Allah will deviate the hearts of some" it means Allah will always provide this party to believers with men to fight even if it means deviating their hearts from Iman to Kufr. That is to bless these believers by providing them with the honor of fighting in his sake and the ultimate pleasure of pleasing Allah. "Good is on the foreheads of horses" means reward and booty, or honor and pride. "The House of the believer is al Shamm" that is referring to the end of time. It will be the stong hold of Islam and the land of Jihad."

"If the enemy enters the Muslim land, or even approaches it and masses on its borders, even if they do not actually enter it, and there armies are double the size of that of the Muslims or less, then Jihad becomes mandatory on each and every individual. Then, the slave leaves without the permission of the master, the woman without the permission of her husband (if she has the strength to fight according to the stronger opinion), the son without the permission of the parents, and the one indebt without the permission of the lender." (Imam Malik, Ahmad, and Abu Hanifah-Mashari Al-Ashwaq ila Masari al-Ushaaq)

Abu Hurariah narrated: The Messenger of Allah said "The trials and tribulations are on there way. Trials like pieces of a dark night. The safest from them would be a man living on the peaks of mountains, living off his flock of sheep, or a man mounting his horse living of his sword."

"Jihad with the sword is valid but it has many conditions that there should be some one to lead the Jihad." This is the only issue is we need a Amir but this is not an excuse or something that should stop you from fighting Jihad for the sake of Allah because Jihad will continue until the day of judgement

http://www.abdurrahman.org/jihad/ThawaabitaladarbalJihad.pdf

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	Jihad with the sword is valid but it has many conditions that there should be some one to lead the Jihad. Also, some one should have attacked the practicing Muslims who were enjoining prayers and Zakat and Hajj etc. Not to fight just against the occupiers of land. That is not Jihad. Is there any place in the world where the practicing Muslims attacked. Do not name Afghanistan etc. please. That is a very involved and controversial matter. If you go fighting and occupy the others land, that will not be Jihad at all. Please try to see the situation now that people of all nationalities are living in all countries. Whom you will fight and why?? Just answer me and name the countries and the real reason. If Jihad is valid now then it was valid 500 years before also. Why the Muslims of that time were sleeping and did not build consensus and technology and weapons. Why their rulers were enjoying with lady singers and dancers. Where were the supporters of Jihad at that time. Why they did not carry out the Jihad against their own bad leaders??? Now it is too late. If Muslim people are suffering in some countires then that is also because they did not listen to their own men of advice and misbehaved with super leaders. My friend, your enemies are now sitting within you. Can you go out and fight the outside enemy??? Just forget about the type of Jihad that was done by the people in Afghanistan and Iran. Try to preach something. That would be better. Follow the good way yourself and lead others towards goodness. Clean your own home. The prophet s.a.w.s. had informed all about such bad times of the Ummah. Have you read anything about that ???

Allahuakbar501 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 08 June 2007 Status: Offline Points: 34	Post Options Post Reply Quote Allahuakbar501 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 July 2007 at 6:10pm
	Salamah bin Nufail said: While I was sitting with Rasulullah a man cam to him and said, "O Messenger of Allah Horses are being humiliated (ignored), and weapons are being laid down and people are claiming there is no more Jihad and war has ended" Rasulullah said: "They are lying! Fighting has just begun! Fighting has just begun! And a party of Ummah will remain fighting on the true path and Allah will deviate the hearts of some men and Allah will provide the fighters from them until the final hour starts and the promise of Allah is fulfilled and good is on the forheads of horses until the day of Judgement. It is being revealed to me that I will be departing you soon and you would follow me while you are fighting each other and the house of the believers is in al-Shaam." In the commentary on Al Nasa'i by al Sindi, he states that: "'Humiliating horses" means ignoring them and belittling their importance or not using them for combat. "Now fighting has started now fighting has started" the repetition is to reveal the importance of the message and it means that fighting is only increasing and that Allah has just prescribed it so how can it so soon? Or it means that the real fighting has just begun because so far they have been fighting only within their territory, the land of the Arabs, but now is time for them to carry the battle to further lands. "Allah will deviate the hearts of some" it means Allah will always provide this party to believers with men to fight even if it means deviating their hearts from Iman to Kufr. That is to bless these believers by providing them with the honor of fighting in his sake and the ultimate pleasure of pleasing Allah. "Good is on the foreheads of horses" means reward and booty, or honor and pride. "The House of the believer is al Shamm" that is referring to the end of time. It will be the stong hold of Islam and the land of Jihad." "If the enemy enters the Muslim land, or even approaches it and masses on its borders, even if they do not actually enter it, and there armies are double the size of that of the Muslims or less, then Jihad becomes mandatory on each and every individual. Then, the slave leaves without the permission of the master, the woman without the permission of her husband (if she has the strength to fight according to the stronger opinion), the son without the permission of the parents, and the one indebt without the permission of the lender." (Imam Malik, Ahmad, and Abu Hanifah-Mashari Al-Ashwaq ila Masari al-Ushaaq) Abu Hurariah narrated: The Messenger of Allah said "The trials and tribulations are on there way. Trials like pieces of a dark night. The safest from them would be a man living on the peaks of mountains, living off his flock of sheep, or a man mounting his horse living of his sword." "Jihad with the sword is valid but it has many conditions that there should be some one to lead the Jihad." This is the only issue is we need a Amir but this is not an excuse or something that should stop you from fighting Jihad for the sake of Allah because Jihad will continue until the day of judgement http://www.abdurrahman.org/jihad/ThawaabitaladarbalJihad.pdf