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Posted: 23 June 2007 at 11:20am

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Posted: 23 June 2007 at 6:15pm

our brothers and sisters are suffering. How can we help?

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Posted: 23 June 2007 at 8:35pm

Angela wrote:

crasss wrote:

One American teenager out of two has an incurable sexually transmitted disease.

Running out of reality? Only 25% get infected and most of it is curable with antibiotics.

The middle east seems no better. Nor, South East Asia which included Indonesia.

Region	Adult population (millions)¹	Infected adults (millions)	Infected adults per 1,000 population	New infections in 1999 (millions)
North America	156	3	19	14
Western Europe	203	4	20	17
North Africa & Middle East	165	3.5	21	10
Eastern Europe & Central Europe	205	6	29	22
Sub-Saharan Africa	269	32	119	69
South & Southeast Asia	955	48	50	151
East Asia & Pacfic	815	6	7	18
Australia & New Zealand	11	0.3	27	1
Latin America & Carribean	260	18.5	71	38
Total	3040	116.5	-	340

You got me:
As a former Public Health nurse, I believe the last studies showed that HIV was the only incurable sexually transmitted disease and its greatest occurrence is on the continent of Africa, More sub-Sahara and southern continent. In the US there is more disease spread by illicit drug use (needle sharing) than sexual contact.
I am in greater fear of the newer strains of Tuberculosis that is anti-biotic resistive, I have personally delivered meds to people in the past that were quarantined in their homes and if they refused to take the meds in my presence they were either deported if foreign or incarcerated if american. This occurs in La Frontera, The borderlands of the US southwest and Mexico.
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Posted: 23 June 2007 at 10:52pm

Maryah wrote:

As a former Public Health nurse, I believe the last studies showed that HIV was the only incurable sexually transmitted disease...

Incurable STDs, Kaiser Family Foundation.
1. Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV)
2. Genital Herpes (HSV)
3. Genital Warts or Human Papilloma-virus (HPV)
4. Hepatitis B (HBV)

Then there is a class of "drug-resistant" STDs. Drug-resistant STDs are still considered curable, but can actually not be cured with any known drugs.

Gonorrhea, which is believed to infect more than 700,000 people in the United States each year, can leave both men and women infertile and puts people at higher risk of getting the AIDS virus ... The CDC made the new recommendation after discovering that nearly 7 percent of gonorrhea cases among heterosexual men in a survey of 26 U.S. cities last year were drug-resistant. In 2001, only about 0.6 percent of gonorrhea cases among heterosexual men were drug-resistant. ... "That leaves us with a single class of highly effective antibiotics [cephalosporins]," said Dr. John Douglas Jr., director of the CDC's division of STD prevention. Other experts called the situation perilous. ... "We are running out of options to treat this disease," added Douglas, who said there are "no new drugs for gonorrhea in the drug development pipeline."

It's just a question of time before gonorrhea becomes celophosporin-resistant. Such strain probably exists already.

Predictions for the American:

1. You will outlive your children.
2. You will contract an incurable STD.
3. You will eat only junk food and be obese.
4. You will be falsely accused of child abuse.
5. Your children will be forced or choose to take (meth)amphetamines.
6. You will lose all your hair and teeth by the age of 45.
7. Your wife will cheat on you.
8. You will lose all your savings and your house at the age of 51.
9. You will live on anti-depressants out of your car.
10. Your car will crash into the tree of bu.llsh.it.

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Posted: 24 June 2007 at 11:20am

ummm no disrespect to any of you but if you wanna talk about H.I.V. an other diseases please start a new thread. or stick to the subject/questions already brought up.

"You're a new convert and from your words you lack true understanding of Jihad. I've been a Muslim for years and have studied some Islamic law. You're focusing on a minute aspect of Jihad and making it the greater thing. You really have no understanding of Jihad."

Please enlighten me with your knowledge on Jihad if what you say is truthful?(But I want it all backed by Qur'an and Sunnah)

do you wanna be apart of one-third of the army that will flee from the battlefield or do you wanna be apart of the two-third who will stay and fight?

If you dont know your enemy and study your enemy how will you be able to defend yourself and your beliefs in the time of war or dialogue?

this so called democracy that we live in is a joke i can get into more of my opinions about that but answer me this how does democracy/U.S. system government compare to the Shari'a?

There is no order to fight any one" Maybe not at your Masjid but have we forgotten about our brothers in Chechnya, Nigera, Kashmir, Somalia, Afganistan, Phillipines, Turkey, Kosovo, Iraq, Palestine, etc etc. do we just close our eyes and pretend that nothing is happening to our Brothers and Sisters around the Globe, do we just worry about Muslims in America?

"pick out your coffin especially if you're going up against a NAVY SEAL or British SAS or any other military force." Who exactly are you rooting for?

Israfil do you believe in the Major signs of the Last day? and if so who laid them out Allah's Messanger(saw) or Shaytan's Messanger?

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http://abdurrahman.org/jihad/MashariAl-AshwaqilaMasarial-Ush aaq-RevisedEdition.pdf

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Posted: 30 June 2007 at 7:25pm

Greater & Lesser Jihad

Compiled by Abu Fadl -- Translated by Br. Khalid Saifullah

The evidence used as proof for establishing that Jihad against the desires and shaitaan is Jihad Akbar are weak and if not false Hadith

A man asked the Prophet(saw): What is Jihad? He(saw) replied: "to fight against the disbelievers when you meet them (on the battlefield)." The Man asked: "What kind of Jihad is the Highest?" He(saw) replied: "The person who is killed whilst spilling the last of his blood"

It is not only the disbelievers that the Mujahid must contend against on the battlefield but he must fight against his desires which always call him towards evil

It has been said that the opinion of many Muslims regarding Jihad is that it is of two sorts, namely, Jihad Akbar (Greater) and Jihad Ashghar (lesser). Jihad Akbar meaning jihad against the desires and shaitaan whilst Jihad Asghar is against the disbelievers on the battlefield.

The reasons given for the above, in regards to Jihad against the desires and Shaitaan as being Jihad Akbar, are as follows:

1. Its field of struggle is unlimited;

2. It is timeless and boundless;

3. This struggle is hard because its essence is man against himself;

4. The enemy is unseen and cannot be detected by the five senses;

Whilst the case given for jihad against the disbelievers is not as long, not as extensive and not as difficult as struggling against the desires. As a result of that, Jihad against the disbelievers on the battlefield is regarded as Jihad Asghar (the smaller or lesser Jihad). That therefore is the opinion of many Muslims.

The classification of Jihad, such as that given above, is based upon a Hadith which states that at the time Rasulullaah returned home from the fied of warfare he said: "We have returned from Jihad Asghar to Jihad Akbar." some companions asked: "What is Jihad Akbar Rasulullah?" He replied: "Jihad against the desires."

That therefore is the proof for the case proposed by many people.

Al 'Iraqy in Takhriju AHadithil Ihya' states: "The mentioned Hadith is related by Imam Baihaqi with a da'if Sanad (weak chain of narrators) from Jabir"

Apart from the Hadith Related by Imam Baihaqi there is also a Hadith related by Al-Khatib Al-Baghadadi from Jabir, which states: "the prophet(pbuh) at the time he returned from a battle said: "We have all just returned to the best of places, and you have returned from Jihad Asghar (the lesser Jihad) to strive in Jihad Akbar (the greater Jihad)" The companions asked: 'What is Jihad Akbar Rasulullah?' He answered: "The Jihad of someone against his desires."

It turns out that this Hadith is weak because within its Sanad there is a narrator by the name of Khalaf bin Muhammad bin Ismail al Khiyam who according to Al-Hakim: "His Hadiths are unreliable." and Abu Ya'al al Khalil says: He often adulterates, is very weak and narrates unknown Hadith."

Al-Hakim and Ibnu Abi Zur'ah state: "We often write statements from Khalaf bin Muhammab bin Ismail only as an example, and we remove ourselves of responsibility from him."

And even more doubtful than that, there is within the Sanad of this Hadith a narrator by the name of Yahya bin Al Ula Al Bajili who according to Imam Ahmad is a known Kadhadhaab-liar-, a forger of Hadith. Also. Amru bin Ali, An Nasai and Daruqutni state: "His Hadith are renounced." Ibnu Adi states: "His Hadith are false."

Ibn Taimiyyah states: "There is a Hadith related by a group of people which states that the Prophet(saw) said after the battle of Tabuk: 'We have returned from Jihad Asghar to Jihad Akbar'. This Hadith has no source, nobody whomsoever in the field of Islamic knowledge has narrated it. Jihad against the disbelievers is the most noble of actions, and moreover it is the most important action for the sake of mankind."

On the basis of the above statements we can conclude by saying that the evidence used as proof or the basis for establishing that Jihad against the disbelievers on the battlefied is Jihad Asghar and Jihad against the desires and Shaitaan is Jihad Akbar, are weak if not false Hadith.

For where this information came from refer to the book of Jihad by Ibn-Nuhaas

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Posted: 30 June 2007 at 10:30pm

AA501, you have read some replies. Perhaps you are not satisfied. Please do not listen to any one who is out to nullify any Hadith on the basis of weak link. There are two ways of testing any Hadith. One is the Rawaait (The chain of narrations) and the other is the Darait (The authenticity, the material, the information in that Hadith). Here in this case, the specialists are ignoring this all important Hadith on the basis that one link in narration is weak. That is not a good way.

Many do thattype of thing. Rest assured that Hadith is correct. There is nothing against the meaning of that Hadith in the Quran and Sunnah. So do not reject it.

Also, do not be upset about political turmoil. Every people and country have their leaders. They follow them and sometime due to wrong policy decisions, they suffer very much and they are attacked too. Muslims are suffering every where, nearly in every country. That is because of too much love of politics. Our religion is not for politics. It is more spiritual.

Of course when people are attacked and driven out of their houses, we feel very sorry for them. But whatcan we do except to pray for their guidance and deliverance. Also remember that Allah does not change the state of a people unless they change themselves. A change at the heart is first required.

Jihad with sword has been misrepresented by many a great Ulema. They even went as far as to prove that Islam was spread by sword. How bad !!! There is no compulsion in religion. No a single person has ver been converted by use of force. When oppressed people were liberated, they of their free will chose to become Muslims. The libertion was also not done illegally. Only when the poor Muslim unarmed preachers were attackd and killed, then notice was given to that government to behave or be ready for war. That was alsoJihad to uphold liberty of faith.

Jihad with the sword has many conditions. There must be a lawfully established government with Good Muslim leaders working under divine laws in their country and they will then decide whether to go ahead with Jihad against any repressor or not. Have you any such country or Government in mind now??? On the surface of the earth?? Add to that the rampant misbehaviour and sects amongst Muslims and disunity. Then please decide about a Jihad with the sword.

I personally believe that Jihad with the sword is not valid in these times. Any one who will plan a fight for the religion will meet utter defeat. But it is alright for the people to fight for theor country, their homeland. But they should not call it Jihad. Thanks.

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