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Israfil 
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Abu Mujahid
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Posted: 17 June 2007 at 12:07am |
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Israfil wrote: "Yeah and I'm sure once Islamic law is established you'd make them your dhmmis right?" I like your kumbaya business!!!. Sure your law enforecment manual training is doing its magic work. But how many more lies you want to caugh up under sheer ignorance!!! Do you see how you want to rewrite Islam? Just to ask you simple questions. Done Iraq/Aghanistan war? if not, are you willing to go the fight and shed muslim blood? By now you should be in selective service reserve? Waiting your answer.
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Allahuakbar501
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Posted: 16 June 2007 at 1:12pm |
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You're a new convert and from your words you lack true understanding of Jihad. Here lets all study the Conditions of Jihad http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhar i/052.sbt.html http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim /019.smt.html http://abdurrahman.org/jihad/MashariAl-AshwaqilaMasarial-Ush aaq-RevisedEdition.pdf We had read that you are new convert. Or am I wrong? Please do not hurry up for the fight. Do not go near the sword. There is no order to fight any one. You should make yourself perfect beofre you try to reform the others." Yes i recently reverted to Islam, "Please do not hurry up for the fight" Im fighting Already against my Nafs. There is no order to fight any one" Maybe not at your Masjid but have we forgotten about our brothers in Chechnya, Nigera, Kashmir, Somalia, Afganistan, Phillipines, Turkey, Kosovo, Iraq, Palestine, etc etc. do we just close our eyes and pretend that nothing is happening to our Brothers and Sisters around the Globe, do we just worry about Muslims in America? You should make yourself perfect before you try to reform others? No one is Perfect except Allah and in order to reform others an Islamic state must be established. "But if you're dumb enough to fight whoever (in this case I assume the West) then pick out your coffin especially if you're going up against a NAVY SEAL or British SAS or any other military force." The problem is not on Western fronts but it is the West and other Governments in the east causing them "pick out your coffin especially if you're going up against a NAVY SEAL or British SAS or any other military force." Who exactly are you rooting for? by no means do i want to fight innocent christians, jews, buddhist Yeah and I'm sure once Islamic law is established you'd make them your dhmmis right? Most definitely "We don't even have an Islamic State nor a Caliph to declare a Jihad yet you want to fight and act like you know what it is. Pitiful. You're acting like you know what Islamic law is and you don't." Thats exactly why we should fight for an Islamic state because we dont have one- now that is pitiful. I know about Islamic Law I know that it is the best solution to our problems with crime if you have seen things i have seen you would understand why i think its so vital to establish it. 'Again, I choose life and the promotion of a violent free world' 'that sort of optimism leads to hypocrisy' Israfil do you believe in the Major signs of the Last day? and if so who laid them out Allah's Messanger(saw) or Shaytan's Messanger? May Allah bless both of you in this life and in the hereafter and that you are granted Jannah and May Allah keep you on the straight path with your Iman strong and never weak.
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Israfil
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Posted: 16 June 2007 at 9:25am |
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501 you said: 'Again, I choose life and the promotion of a violent free world' -Israfil "that sort of optimism leads to hypocrisy we should all fight for an Islamic state anything other than Shari'a" -501 501 you're a new convert and you're talking like this? Scary. by no means do i want to fight innocent christians, jews, buddhist Yeah and I'm sure once Islamic law is established you'd make them your dhmmis right? I do want to fight but the situation im in doesnt lead me to do so, other wise I would but i will support the Mujaahideen with my Wealth and Prayers. You're a new convert and from your words you lack true understanding of Jihad. I've been a Muslim for years and have studied some Islamic law. You're focusing on a minute aspect of Jihad and making it the greater thing. You really have no understanding of Jihad. But if you're dumb enough to fight whoever (in this case I assume the West) then pick out your coffin especially if you're going up against a NAVY SEAL or British SAS or any other military force. Yes every soul will taste death but I'm not dumb enough to die because I think I know what true Jihad is. We don't even have an Islamic State nor a Caliph to declare a Jihad yet you want to fight and act like you know what it is. Pitiful. You're acting like you know what Islamic law is and you don't. |
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minuteman
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Posted: 16 June 2007 at 2:02am |
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We had read that you are new convert. Or am I wrong? Please do not hurry up for the fight. Do not go near the sword. There is no order to fight any one. You should make yourself perfect beofre you try to reform the others. There is not to be any fight for the sake of religion now. There was never any fight for the religion only in the past too. Only when Muslim state was attacked then the people went to repel the attack. You cannot fight. You have not the means. There are definite conditions for Jihad with the sword. Please study them first. Then see if the conditions exist. Also see if Muslims are united or in sectarian turmoil. You are the master of your will power. You can decide and go ahead but do not forget to buy a sword today. |
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Allahuakbar501
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Posted: 15 June 2007 at 4:35pm |
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"Again, I choose life and the promotion of a violent free world" that sort of optimism leads to hypocrisy we should all fight for an Islamic state anything other than Shari'a is Unjust, i have given you the inconvient truth and by no means do i want to fight innocent christians, jews, buddhist etc but we have to lay down the true law of the land and whoever gets in the way of that is unjust this is the reality many muslims dont want to face, either your a Muslim of the pen or of the sword if your not either of those then your not a Mujaahideen. I do want to fight but the situation im in doesnt lead me to do so, other wise I would but i will support the Mujaahideen with my Wealth and Prayers. "But best be sure before you fight, you pick a nice coffin." Every soul shall taste death I rather die as shaheed or a scholar rather than anything else. I pray that the Muslim ummah will put their trust in Allah and do what Allah has commanded read Qur'an and Sunnah and the link to the book I put up regarding these matters. Asalamu alaikum rhmatullahi wa baraktu
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Israfil
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Posted: 15 June 2007 at 3:25pm |
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501. Again, I choose life and the promotion of a violent free world. I choose NOT to focus on "where my enemy is" especially if the discussion of "where my enemy is" is riddled with political B.S. All I have to say is, if you wish to fight for allah's religion be the good soldier and join Al-Qaeda or one of the resistance groups and fight. But best be sure before you fight, you pick a nice coffin. I'm not a self-defeatist I'm a realist. I think tis st**id for some old guy on a podium to discuss politics when he should b discussing how to better oneself in Islam. And no, I will not watch more Youtube bullcrap. Leave that to the idiots Crass and Abu the "poo poo" |
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crasss
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Posted: 15 June 2007 at 3:00pm |
I completely agree with this. It is the One God who decides what is permissible and what is not. How can anybody vote for people to make new laws, since the One God has made all the laws already? The idea that we should vote for people who will make new laws, is irrepairably flawed. As a matter of fact, how many new laws do we need, before all our needs in new laws are completely satisfied? |
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