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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2007 at 4:47pm

Shery,

I have been on this site for over five years, and you take the prize for ignorance and childishness.....not to mention rudeness. 

Sawtul Khalifah and Sign*Reader are certainly Muslim.  But I'm not Muslim, and I can spot a phoney at ten paces!  That would be YOU.  Easy to understand why you have been banned from so many websites.  It's because of your immaturity and rude behavior.

Apparently when you can't make (force) anyone to agree with you, you turn on them like a mad dog.  Why not take the advice of these two devout Muslims and read the links offered to you.  Maybe it's not too late at the tender age of 32 to learn something of value and correctness regarding Islam.

What do you hope to gain here by insulting anyone who disagrees with your remarks, or challenges you?  You will gain nothing.  The only thing you are achieving is making yourself appear foolish.

(No, I'm not CIA either....sorry.)

God's Peace to You.

Patty

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2007 at 3:25pm
The above post is so hilarious that I had my day's hearty laugh and I thank you for that, but not that it makes any sense. It has comical style of writing and incoherent way of addressing the points I raised in my post. It is highly desirable to argue point by point and keep the  childish CIA labeling  out as it indicates the questionable level of scholarship. In case you don't know IC  is California based site and CIA has other ways to handle this if it didn't like something.

 The writing reminded me of another stubborn, rude and self righteous Taurus from Uganda whose style matched yours. She also made all the self praise claims, which were no recommendation anyways. She was younger than yourself and dumber than a doornail and didn't last in the rigors of debates here.

You know why the mess in ME  can not be fixed cuz the people don't know how to respect the rule of the law and proof is right here; look at your own attitude. You know everything but can not follow the forum guidelines. You like to call people who have different POVs CIA agents and what not instead of giving logical argument based on facts.

I think you need to visit HERE FIRST.




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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2007 at 2:02pm

I really admire seeing the christian did really study our Sira and twiseted to make more seditions between sunna and shia

 

Tell Me what you wil gain when we fight shia ?

Tell Me how you would be so positive that what you read In Sirah Is true

Allah promised us to protect Quoran , but Not sirah

I do remember very well from a a while ago when People start to say that Ali bin talab did kill 2 from the people who will go to heaven ( mobasharin bel jannah ) and then

When Wise people made objections about those unbelievable stories

The Imam start to reform the story in a way to make him didnt kill them

Anyhow I m not going through Sahaba stories Cuz I wasnt there

And I dont know exaclty what did happen ... and I dont trust Sira

But all what  I know

I WiLL never be a part of st**idity and sedition

I will never Be Some1 who kill another muslim while christian and jew watching me killing my brother or sis

IF that what you call it islam .. then You deserve what americans and israeli do to you

 

You know what ? Saudia turned to be another american state

Where the americans can walk almost naked in private beach in Jeddah

YOu forget about your islam and Allah forget about you

You been brain washed

No matter what shia believes and how they practice islam

at the end they are musliim ( and YOU AND I not god to judge them )

YOU accept and live with jew and christian regardless what they say about prophet mohamed

In meantime you never accept shia simply because No one really care about islam

And Allah

You care about your greed and desire ...

and Tell you what

CUT THIS CRAP >>
I m not going to repeat myself with 2 CIA agent

And He is not patient ... He is trying to survive while the whole forums knew that He is not muslim exept you ( you are the only one who is defending him !)

And I guess you probably not able to answer my questions as well .

cuz You are not muslim as well

So keep repeating yourself guys

The only brainless  muslims who would believe you and follow your sedition.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2007 at 1:39pm
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I really admire your patience in putting up with this self styled Islamic  scholar who doesn't have the foggiest idea what a Shii is?
I remember reading what Caliph Usman said prior to his assassination that if he was killed by the rebels the Muslims would never be together  again ever and it has been absolutely true since.
The broken record talk about sedition is so juvenile that borders lunacy.
How can you be united with bunch of guilt ridden masochistic morons who self flagellate themselves for 50 days for some event which happened 14 centuries ago and they can't change a thing.
They get closer to the Passion of the Christ scene in some Catholic countries than normal Muslim places.
If the Sunnis were to copy them for Usman's murder the Muslim Ummah would like hell not that it is doing any better these days at some places.
Then they do the (Tabarrah)name calling of other Caliphs like Abu bakr, Umar Usman etc
The practice of Takiya (Dissimulation) is part of Shii creed and most Muslims do not have the knowledge of this that a group living among them has such practice which was supposed to be against the non believers. They operate and take the full advantage like the Jews do in the larger Christian societies.

They are quite comfortable in conniving with  non believers  by  simply not having any true sense of loyalty to main body of the Muslims.

They are extremely successful in political machinations even in Sunni countries.

They have been historically on the forefront of testing the  secularist waters and tendencies like socialism, communism. Study history of Pakistan, Syria etc

Even the religious  groups like Iranian mullahs, where does this self styled Walliat e Fiqh comes from?

Their Kalima is modified with addition of Ali to it.

Their trip to tombs of Ali and Hussain is more important than the regular Hajj, which puts them in a separate category.
When they pray they put their forehead on the dirt of Karbala.
By definition they are followers of Ali, Sunnis are supposed to be followers of Muhammad(p), so who is OK?

How can you make somebody understand these absurdities in this digital world?

Why is this schism so important?  It is almighty money, ultimately and the mullahs having good times with temporary marriages.
The answer is the Shiit clergy's Catholics like control on the redemption promise just like the blood of Christ redeems the Christians the same concept pervades the Shiit mind which just doesn't sit too well when it comes to the analysis of the whole conflict.
So who is right rep here Shii the Twelver - Ismaili Alawite or who.
As long as the Muslims are ignorant of their religion they will catch on any straw while drowning in the western spate of their lands.
Once they get some knowledge and check on facts, they find will find they don't have the life or say faith saver yet with them.
IMHO it is about time that all Muslims who can decline the vested interests and have the God's interest need to put their cards on the table and start a contemporary paradigm that is as simple as Allah intended this faith was meant to be.
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2007 at 10:20am

I said alqeada are fake for simple reason the whole world know it

The st**id CIA video tapes for bin laden

Hey listen YOu called my questions rediculious ? when i ask you about quoran so you consider it rediculious ?

I would help any muslim from chechnya . afghanistan . lebanon , iraq

No matter if he is sunna or shia or even wahabi

Thoug the people as yOU have nothing to do but spreading sedition

and lies about hizbullah and shia ...

Why you never talked about what israel nuclear weapons in the area ?

I think any muslim would know your tricks

I m fed up from people as you ...

Alqeada been used to attack the middle east .. either afghanistan or iraq .. and now lebanon and syria ..

and the next strategy is making muslims killing muslims

sunna and shia ...

Every word you say showing and prove you are too far from islam.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2007 at 10:16am

Sawt el hak

Any usual muslim would know this verses of god willing .

and My iq Is 10 times better than Your CIA

and Tell you what ....

I dont need to argue with you .. you know why ?

Simply cuz Every muslim here .. ( POSITIVE that you are fake and I m real ) ......

Even who thaught you hajj rules didnt clarify to you the hadith

So you sound as a miserable CIA who is trying to be smart

though you used the same way with me ( that you call it st**id ) to prove that I m muslim or not

Simply your existance here become so funny to everyone who is musliim

and The one who support you is the non muslim as You

 

Beside Again My aims are so good oppositly your aims

Even if I m jew or christian or even athiest

when I m after unify islam defenitely my aims are to strength islam

not to weak it and make a gap between muslims

Read what i wrote in Youth duty toward islam

and You will knw who is really muslim here

If you were a real muslim WHo care about allah

YOu wouldnt be here still arguing and accusing me of being st**id

You proved to everyone who you are ..

dont try to survive here cuz they already knew who you are .

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2007 at 10:03am
Originally posted by Shery Shery wrote:

what about the other question

Its the most easiest question in which surah it says dont say i  m going to do that tomorrow unless you said god willing

How does knowing or not knowing the answer to these questions "prove" that someone is or is not a Muslim ? There are millions of Muslims who may not be able to answer the question because they have not memorised those particular verses or because they do not know which verse you have in mind or for many other reasons.

If this is your way of identifying "fakes", then I can see why you think Iran's leaders are real Muslims - you probably heard them recite a few verses and thought "yeah they are for real"! You're either very young or you just have a very low IQ. If so, then the answer is Surah Kahf verses 23+24. Now did that make any difference ? If not then why did you bother asking ?

Originally posted by Shery Shery wrote:

But I have advice to you .... Dont try to mess with some1 very educated in Religion

Actually not only do you lack religious knowledge, you also seem to have little or no intelligence. Your arguements are weak, your accusations are silly and you cant even understand the most basic things.

Originally posted by Shery Shery wrote:

Second advice .. if you really know that sedition is one of the biggest sin .. So why you are doing it ?

 If I did not pitty you for your low IQ I would not have answered such a ridiculous question, but here goes... Im saying that the leaders of Iran and Hezbushaytan are hypocrites, hence if I am right then I am not spreading Fitnah between Muslims. On the contrary I am exposing the Monafiqeen and I always show a lot of evidence and much of what I have said has been proven to be true by the passage of time.

Intrestingly, you yourself accused Al-Qaeda of being Fake, so why is it "sedition" if I say Hezbushaytan are fake, even though I actually proved what I had said while you just go around accusing people without any evidence.

Why is it ok to speak against Sunnis groups and Governments but "sedition" to speak against any Shiah groups ??? And you expect us to believe that you are not a Shiah ?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2007 at 9:05am

Bravo bravo .. Cia are getting better

You knew the aya

what about the other question

Its the most easiest question in which surah

it says dont say i  m going to do that tomorrow unless you said god willing

 

Sawt el hak I know that You are not muslim

But I have advice to you .... Dont try to mess with some1 very educated in Religion

Second advice .. if you really know that sedition is one of the biggest sin .. So why you are doing it ?

Or you are as the jew carrying your book and You dont know what is inside it and you dont apply it or listen to the teaching on it

Anyway I M not lieing and you can ask about shery in all lebanese forums which i was banned from all of them cuz they are against iran and syria

and You will know that I m egyptian .. ( i m very famous ;))

and Even if I m shia ( which I m not ) then I m very good shia who is trying to eliminate the gap between muslims

whatever I m shia or sunna so my aims are so good ..

oppositly your aims .. ( ya khabiss )

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