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Shery View Drop Down
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 February 2007 at 1:55am

Originally posted by Daniel Dworsky Daniel Dworsky wrote:

When they bombed sharm el sheikh they destroyed a
hotel named ( ghazala owned by egyptians and exactly beside this hotel
theres a gambling casino owned by a jew ... nothing happened to it [/
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Tell the whole story! Right. Nothing happened to the
jewish building . But
Israeli's died that were staying at the hotel. Egyptian police refused to
allow medical crews to reach the wounded. Four people consequently
bled to death.


i made a survey about hizbullah ........ in egypt
everyone pray and admire them

You too? Do you also think that the president of Iran has
Egypt's best
interest at heart? Do you think that he is a good Muslim?

-I'll answer the obvious counter questions first -

No. Bush is not a good Christian and Olmert is not a good Jew. Do I feel it
scandalous that civilians are abused in Palestine? Yes I most certainly do.
Do I make an effort to help? Yes I do as do many Israeli and Palestinian
and american Muslims and Jews by collecting and documenting human
rights abuses in Palestine and by driving chemotherapy, dialysis and heart
patients back and fourth over the border. By running food and clothing
past our own troops to the needy using inside connections at al levels of
the military at the risk of being charged with "giving comfort to the
enemy" But you don't see us as people stuck on the ground like you with
irresponsible leaders. Impossible choices You see CIA protected jewish
buildings. I convince friends to do the right thing and they get beaten up
jailed, fired or in one case killed. My son and I spent an afternoon a
couple months back dodging Nasrallah's missiles fired on jew, druze,
Muslim, Bahai and christian alike.   

The last time I was in Egypt was during the 1973 war. We lost 2000
people in the space of a few hours on Yom Kipper (Our jewish version of
your Ramadan) Entire graduation classes fresh out of the high school I
attended were virtually wiped out. Good people all.

I will presume to tell you as a Jew about Islam. Islam like Judaism is not
about hatred or revenge it's about respecting and celebrating life. It is not
about convincing our children to throw it away or to take it away from
other innocents.

 

I dont hate anyone

BUT I WILL FIGHT ANYONE TRY TO MESS WITH AQSA MOSQUE

For the ghazla and sharm that doesnt makes mossad and CIA innocent from bombed it ...

and for iran ... Ahmed nijad maybe say st**id statements as bush

but he dont own the fortune that Bush and his family has

neither mubarak or all the arab leaders has

He has one principale and I wont fight muslims

and I wont listen to whom trying to make secterian

I respect every jew and christian who respect my religion and I wouldnt never hates them

but When it come to dignity and pride .. then nothing left to live for

Remember you were the one who been always attack muslims

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 February 2007 at 1:59am
I WILL FIGHT ANYONE TRY TO MESS WITH AQSA MOSQUE

As will I sister. Even though it isn't a jewish building
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 February 2007 at 2:12am

Originally posted by Daniel Dworsky Daniel Dworsky wrote:

I WILL FIGHT ANYONE TRY TO MESS WITH AQSA MOSQUE

As will I sister. Even though it isn't a jewish building

 

You know i have a jewish friends I have them as very close friends

but when it comes to religions we always fight but we made agreement together we will never lose our relation because of any argument that we dont agree on it

I dont hate jew specially jew cuz as you said judaism is very close to islam though islam came to make allow you many things that were forbiden to jew

The aqsa mosque was your temple

Simply because you were muslims all religion came to believe in god

and all prophets were muslims from ibrahim to mohamed

and when you were chosen and you disobey god you lost your temple

and being chosen didnt save you from losing your temple

and now we are facing the same situation we are losing our mosque because being a muslim wouldnt save our mosque

but at the same time ....In israel you are more western than religious which means that god wouldnt support people who allow gay pride parade in a holy land as jerusalem ... and let their girls lose their virginity without marriage ... and Ehud olmert daughter preach for homosexuality rights .. cuz she is lesbian

So neither jew of today will be supported cuz you sin more than anyone else in a holy land ... neither muslims .. cuz they are repeating jew mistakes in moses time

When prophet moses ask them to enter jerusalem

and they refused they said to prophet moses ... you go and your allah we are staying here .... and then god make them diaspora in the land for 40 years

It is happening now with muslims cuz they are too weak and unfaithful.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 February 2007 at 3:58am
"Daniel Dworsky, if you dont want to be killed, just LEAVE the land that
belongs to the Palestinians. "

So, we've finally pinned it down to the man. Good job, Detective Sawtul
Khilafah. You heard him, Dworsky, get movin' unless you want to be
killed.    Leave your gear for DAM to cut their next album with.

"Remember you were the one who been always attack muslims"

Rubbish. Here in Morocco, Jews who were not well were killed in the early
days of Islam, then later, often treated like dirt, abused, humiliated in
public.
link to earlier post on this here
http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8185&PN= 1


America/Israel as the cause of all our woes:
The time for the Islamic empire has so long been over.    Civil wars
accompanied the beginning of our religious expansion and in-fighting
and corruption accompany our current Muslim leaders. The America/
Israel thing is a tired trope., but it is the best thing to happen to failing
repressive nations in terms of explaining why we need to censor our own
press, why spend our food/school money on weapons, why we can't let
women drive cars, listen to music, etc.

The Golden Age of Islam before the advent America/Israel problems:   
many of our brothers and sisters have become like the alcoholics who
constantly refer to their great-great-great uncle who was related to a
founder of a very great-great city.    We are warned over and over in the
Quran that we will have no intervention from those who have passed on
before us on the day of Reckoning.

My ulitmately inconsequential opinions:
* Israel and Palestine problems are just that, not Islam and Jew problems.

*Palestinians have kept a bright international light on their confilct with
Israel through violence - so I don't think they should change tack.   


*The tried American paradigm of solubility is as quaint as Robinson
Caruso. And just as worthless - this is not a problem to be solved, unless
lots of miserable, homeless, or dead people are going to being counted
as a solution in retrospect.

*The best thing to come out of the antiquated Oslo accord was mutual
recognition.   Wars eventually die down, and this one will too. And it
won't be because anyone one side stopped it. It will die of attrition,
though the less deadly forms of hierarchical exploitation that come
bundled with life won't - and never will.

Final Friday thought: History is sacrament in Islam. We find ourselves
looking at past events as our way of getting peeks at and brief
understandings the Divine. And more and more (as I exercise an
unofficiated itjihad this Friday) I realize: that it is through primarily
through aggressively individual acts of righteousness (undertaken
collectively) that something like Unity can be glimpsed...


Rant cycle terminated - have a blessed, bomb-free and prayerful Friday,
everyone -

Jamal

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 February 2007 at 5:01am

Mohammed,

I called Shery's post dumb but it is the mark of an extremist view. It totally annihilates any Muslim responsibility. Regardless whether the U.S is the aggressor or not there are Muslims in the Muslim world who are no different. Recognize the ignorance in  all aggression not simply one country.

Shery if your love of faith is truly that strong join an Islamic army and die for what you believe in. I respect those individuals more than "word warriors." I've actually taken a life once, (in self-defence) it is a horrible thing to live with everyday. But for word warriors like yourself who claims to fight anyone for a religious site...I would hardly doubt it because usually, people who believe that way do not express themselves via internet chat. They do it. So please spare me that tireless rhetoric.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 February 2007 at 11:02am

i will fallen inshallah

hope you can bear or handle some warrior as me

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 February 2007 at 10:22pm
Shery the "word warrior" a true religious fanatic BTW shouldn't you be training? Instead of wasting time saying Inshallah on the web you should be training with your battlion....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2007 at 3:47am

Originally posted by Fallen Fallen wrote:

Shery the "word warrior" a true religious fanatic BTW shouldn't you be training? Instead of wasting time saying Inshallah on the web you should be training with your battlion....

 

What do you if you mind your business ?

 

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