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    Posted: 14 July 2006 at 12:27pm

Dogs are a creation of humans.  Wolves are a creation of God. I just thought I'd point out that dogs are not part of the original species of the planet.  We took wolves and made them domestic, making them into dogs.

The oldest known breed is the Saluki, the royal dog of Egypt, originating around 7,000-6,000 BC.

Before that there were no "breeds" persay, we only had domesticated dogs.  DNA evidence points to as early as 100,000 BC to 15,000 BC.

Scientific classification
Domain: Eukaryota
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Subphylum: Vertebrata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Carnivora
Family: Canidae
Genus: Canis
Species: C. lupus
Subspecies: C. l. familiaris
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I too have heard Moslems say that dogs are evil.

All of Allah's creatures are just that. They originate from the same source. Pigs are filthy, etc. But they too are on this planet.. There are wild pigs in many part of the world. We are forbidden to eat them.  But those pigs are still part of life.

It is hard to comprehend that aspect of the natural world are considered "evil." Science and knowledge of the natural world shows how cosmically interdependent al llife creatures are. That brilliance comes form The Creator.

Recenly there was a show on why some rhinos had msteriously been killed. As many many know, they are highly enddangered. It was a mystery. They  found out that these young males were killing them. This normally does not happen in the wild. But these males were the few left from human mass killings (culling) of elephants. These elephants did not have older makes to teach them to be elephants. When they moved some older bulls into the area. The younger males stopped killing. There are many, many examples of the delicate, masterful ecosystem is all intertwined.

Hating a whole group of animals seems rather to go with emotion than with logic.

 
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Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:

No, evil eye is cursing, not possession.� Demonic possession (jinn in Islam) is believed by many faiths.� Abrahamic and pagan.�

But, I will accept the only Allah knows.� Sometimes, that is just the best answer.

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Your definitely right, possession exists in just about all religions although most religions don't know the truth about jinn because they haven't studied Islam. �They simply know there's something there but don't know what it is. �Muslims know what it is because Allah told us in Al Qur'an.
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No, evil eye is cursing, not possession.  Demonic possession (jinn in Islam) is believed by many faiths.  Abrahamic and pagan. 

But, I will accept the only Allah knows.  Sometimes, that is just the best answer.

 
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Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:

I don't suppose I should post the endless lists of questioners to Imam's I've found on how to ward off curses and such in Islam?� I could, but it would be a waste of my time.� You know they are out there.




I think you are talking about possession, correct? �Possession exists. �It is when a bad (kuffar) jinn possesses a human. �There are sheikhs which perform excorcisms (removing the jinn from the human). �This is not unIslamic. �But it is not magic or superstition. �It is real, I've seen it with my own two eyes.

I will not go into detail but there are some sects of Islam that believe in magic and curses (not like possession) and have rituals. �This is NOT Islam. �They have deviated from pure Islam.

The dog has nothing to do with either one of these things though. �It is simple, ahadith say that black dogs are shayateen (plural of shaytan). �Like I said, only Allah knows whether every single black dog is a shaytan or whether it is only some black dogs. �Matters such as these are useless to discuss because we simply do not and will not have the knowledge to discus it further than what ahadith say.
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Originally posted by ak_m_f ak_m_f wrote:

sister Suleyman, is that your childhood picture?

No ak,if i'll show you my childhood picture you will understand nothing by the cause of the mud on my face beside of three puppies,i was so noisy...
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Originally posted by Knowledge01 Knowledge01 wrote:

There are also NO superstitions in Islam because superstitions is a part of unbelief and unncertainty.  Superstitions usually even have to do with magic, which is a part of what mushrikeen follow and what Islam condemns.

I don't suppose I should post the endless lists of questioners to Imam's I've found on how to ward off curses and such in Islam?  I could, but it would be a waste of my time.  You know they are out there.

However, everything I've seen about dogs is Hadith.  God said the Quran would be preserved.  Muhammed (pbuh) forbade the Hadiths from being written down because he didn't want what was said as a man to be confused with what was revealed to him by God.  So, yes, there were times, Muhammed (pbuh) spoke as a man and not as a Prophet.
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sister Suleyman, is that your childhood picture?
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