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So deep that I am unable to understand(after all I am a kafir). |
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Quran says that if one does not follow it, then they are kafirs. I do not follow quran. So I am a kafir. And above all I am a 'hindu' aren't 'hindus'(who are killing so many muslims in Kashmir) and Jews(killing muslims) kafirs? |
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bharatiya
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Thanks Alwardah!!!
Explanation is better than criticism... But Alwardah... only Prophet seems to be a good Muslim... Most Muslims are against everything which is non-muslim. Edited by bharatiya |
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Hi Bharathija
Are u really seeking the truth? Then look no further. You are located in
Maybe you don't stay in Mumbai, but far away, even so it will be worth
His website is www.irf.net
Take a hard look at the world around you who are the victims. ?????????
Need I add more,
I don't think you really know Muslims to make such a statement.
"And I shall not worship that which you are worshipping, nor will you worship that which I worship, to you be your religion and to me my religion." (Surah Al-Kafirun 109:4-6) |
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�Verily your Lord is quick in punishment; yet He is indeed Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful (Surah Al-An�am 6:165)
"Indeed, we belong to Allah and to Him is our return" (Surah Baqarah 2: 155) |
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It's interesting that moderators have still not acted against this poor fool misinterpreting and insulting our Prophet (peace be upon him) in the most dreadful way. |
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There is no deity but Allah. Muhammad is the (last) Messenger of Allah.
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from www.irf.net
page1 COMPARATIVE STUDY BETWEEN ISLAM AND HINDUISM PRESENTING ISLAM TO HINDUS Arabic Recitation
(3:64) I. Introduction
A. Introduction
of Hinduism
1.
Definition of a Hindu The word Hindu has geographical
significance and was used originally for those people who lived beyond the
river Sindhu or the region watered by the river Indus. Some historians say that
it was first used by the Persians who came to India through the north western
passes of the Himalayas. The word Hindu is no where mentioned in Indian
literature or scriptures before the advent of Muslims to India, according to
the Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics. According to Jawaharlal Nehru in the
book Discovery of India on page 74-75, he writes that the earliest reference to
the word Hindu can be traced to a tantrik of the 8th Century CE,
where it means a people and not a follower of a particular religion. The use of
the word Hindu in connection with a particular religion is of late occurrence. In short Hindu is a geographical
definition used for the people living beyond the river Indus or those living in
India 2.
Definition of Hinduism a) Hinduism has been derived from the
word Hindu. Hinduism was a name given in English language in the Nineteenth
Century by the English people to the multiplicity of the beliefs and faith of
the people of the Indus land. According to New Encyclopedia Britannica 20:581.
The British writers in 1830 gave the word Hinduism to be used as the common
name for all the beliefs of the people of India excluding the Muslims and
converted Christians. b) The term Hinduism is misleading
because though it suggests the unified system of beliefs and ideas, it is
certainly not the case. Hinduism is too broad a phenomenon to be confined to a
usual definitions of religions. It does not owe its origin, formation or
finalization to any historical person or a prophet since there is no uniformly
accepted belief sacraments, rituals and practices in Hinduism, there are no
criteria for establishing rules in Hinduism. In short a person who calls
himself a Hindu becomes a true practicing Hindu irrespective who he worships
and what ever may be his beliefs and practice. c) According to the Hindu scholars
Hinduism is a misnomer and it should be referred a Sanatana Dharma, meaning
eternal religion or Vedic Dharma meaning religion of the Veda. According to
Swami Vivekananda the followers of this religion is referred as Vedantist. B. Introduction
of Islam
1.
Definition of Islam Islam is an Arabic word which
comes from the word �Salaam� which means �Peace�. It also means submitting your
will to Allah - the Almighty God. In short Islam means peace acquired by
submitting your will to Allah (SWT). 2.
Definition of a Muslim A Muslim is a person
who submits his will to Allah - the Almighty God. 3.
Misconception about Islam Many people have a
misconception that Islam is a new religion which came into existence 1400 years
ago and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the founder of the religion of Islam. Infact
Islam is there since time immemorial, since man set foot on the earth. Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh) is not the founder of the religion of Islam but he is the last
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II. Pillars of Faith (Imaan) -
Pillars of Hinduism
Pillars of Faith in Hinduism are not defined. As
mentioned earlier that Hinduism does not have a set of unified or codified
beliefs. Neither does it have any fixed pillars or principles which are
obligatory for its followers to practice. A Hindu has a freedom to practice
whatever he pleases, there is no such thing as compulsory or prohibited for him
thus no act committed by a person can make him a non-Hindu. Neither omission of
any act can make him a non-Hindu. However there are certain beliefs which are
common to most of the Hindus. Even though it may not be agreed upon 100% by all
the Hindus, we shall discuss some of them while discussing the pillars of
Islam. CONCEPT OF GOD IN
HINDUISM The most popular amongst the Aryan religion is Hinduism 1. Common concept of God in Hinduism: If you ask a common Hindu that how many Gods he
believe in, some may say three some may say thirty three, some may say a
thousand while some may say thirty three crore i.e. 330 millions. But if you
ask this question to a Hindu learned man who is well Versed with the Hindu
scriptures, he will reply that the Hindu should actually believe and worship
only one God. 2. Difference between Islam and
Hinduism is �s� (Everything is �God�s� -
everything is �God�): The major difference between the Hindu and the
Muslim is that the common Hindu believes in philosophy of Pantheism i.e.
everything is God, the tree is God, the sun is God, the moon is God, the snake
is God, the monkey is God, the human being is God. The Muslims believe that
everything is God�s. God with and apostrophe �s�. Everything belongs to God,
the tree belongs to God, the sun belongs to God, the moon belongs to God,
monkey belongs to God, the human being belongs to God. Thus the major difference between
the Hindus and the Muslims is the apostrophe �s�. The Hindu says everything is
God. The Muslim says everything is God�s, God with an apostrophe �s�. If we can
solve the difference of the apostrophe �s�, the Hindus and the Muslims will be
united. The Holy Qur�an says, �Come to
common terms as between us and you�, which is the first term? �That we worship
none but Allah�, so lets come to common terms by analyzing the scripture of the
Hindus and the Muslim. 3. Bhagwad Geeta 7:20 The most popular amongst all the Hindu scriptures
is the Bhagwad Geeta. Bhagwad Geeta mentions in Chapter 7, Verse 20, �Those
whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires worship demigods� that
is �Those who are materialistic, they worship demigods� i.e. besides the true
God. 4. Upanishad Upanishad are also one of the
sacred scriptures of the Hindus. (i)
Chandogya Upanishad, Chapter 6, Section 2, Verse 1 It is mentioned in the Chandogya
Upanishad, Prapathaka(Chapter) 6, Khanda(Section)2, Shloka(Verse) �Ekam
evaditiyam�, �He is one only without a second�. The principal Upanishad by S.
Radhakrishnan, page 447 and 448(sacred books of the east Volume 1 the
Upanishads, part I, page 93) a) (ii) Similar to what is mentioned
in the Holy Qur�an in Surah Ikhlas, Chapter 112, Verse 1, �Say he is Allah one
and only�. b) (i) Svetasvatara Upanishad, Chapter 6, Verse 9 It is mentioned in the
Svetasvatara Upanishad, Adhyaya(Chapter) 6, Shloka(Verse) 9, �Na
casya kascij janita na cadhipah� �Of him there is neither parents nor
lord�. �na tasya kascit patir asti loke,
na cesita naiva ca tasya lingam, na karanam karanadhipadhipo na casya kascij
janita na cadhipah�. �Of him there is no master in the
world, no ruler, nor is there any mark of him. He is the cause, the lord of the
lords of the sense organs; of him there is neither progenitor nor lord�. (The principal
Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 745 and in sacred books of the east Volume
15, the Upanishads, part II, page 263) (ii) Similar
message is given in Holy Qur�an in Surah Ikhlas, Chapter 112, Verse 3, �He begets not, nor
is he begotten�. (i) In Svetasvatara Upanishad, Chapter 4, Verse 19 It is mentioned in
Svetasvatara Upanishad, Adhyaya(Chapter) 4, Shloka(Verse) 19, �Na
tasya pratima asti� �There is no likeness of him�. �nainam
urdhvam na tiryancam na madhye na parijagrabhat na tasya pratima asti yasya
nama mahad yasah� �There is no likeness of him whose name is great
glory�. (The principal
Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 736 & 737 and in sacred books of the east
Volume 15, the Upanishad, part II, page 253) c) (ii) Similar message is given in
the Holy Qur�an in Surah Ikhlas, Chapter 112, Verse 4, �And there is none
like unto him�. c)
(iii) Surah Shura, Chapter 42, Verse 11 and also in Surah Shura, Chapter
42, Verse 11, �There is nothing
whatever like unto him�. d) (i) In Svetasvatara Upanishad,
Chapter 4, Verse 20 It is mentioned in
Svetasvatara Upanishad, Adhyaya(Chapter) 4, Shloka(Verse) 20, �na
samdrse tishati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam� �his form
cannot be seen, no one sees him with the eye� �nasamdrse
tishati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam. Hrda hrdistham manasa ya
enam, evam vidur amrtas te bhavanti� �His form is not to
be seen; no one sees him with the eye. Those who through heart and mind know
him as abiding in the heart become immortal�. (The principal
Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 737 & in sacred books of the east Volume
15, the Upanishad part II, page 253) e) (ii) Similar message is given in
the Holy Qur�an in Surah Anam, Chapter 6, Verse 103, �No vision can grasp
him. But his grasp is over all vision: he is above all comprehension, yet is
acquainted with all things�. 5.
Yajurveda Vedas are the most sacred amongst all the
Hindu scriptures, there are principally 4 Vedas, Rigved, Yajurved, Samved and
Atharvaved. a) Yajurveda, Chapter 32, Verse 3 It is mentioned in Yajurved, Chapter 32,
Verse 3 �na tasya pratima asti� �There is no
image of Him� It
further says as �He is unborn, He deserves our worship� �There is no image
of him whose glory verily is great. He sustains within himself all luminous
objects like the sun etc. may he not harm me, this is my prayer. As he is
unborn, he deserves our worship�. (The
Yajurveda by Devi Chand M.A. page 377) b) Yajurveda, Chapter 40, Verse 8 It
is mentioned in Yajurved, Chapter 40, Verse 8, �He is body less and pure� �He hath attained
unto the bright, bodiless, woundless, sinewless, the pure which evil hath not
pierced. Far-sighted wise, encompassing, he self existent hath prescribed aims
as propriety demands unto the everlasting years� (Yajurveda
Samhita by Ralph I.H. Griffith page 538) c) Yajurveda, Chapter 40, Verse 9 It is mentioned in Yajurved, Chapter 40,
Verse 9 �Andhatma pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste� �They enter darkness, those who worship
natural things� For e.g. air, water, fire etc. It further continues
and says, �They sink deeper in darkness those who worship Sambhuti i.e. created
things�, For example table, chair, idol etc. �Deep into shade of
blinding gloom fall asambhuti�s worshippers. They sink to darkness deeper yet
who on sambhuti are intent� (Yajurveda Samhita
by Ralph T.H. Griffith page 538) 6. Atharvaveda a) (i) Atharvaveda, Book 20, Hymn
(Chapter) 58, Verse 3 It
is mentioned in Atharvaveda, Book 20, Hymn (Chapter) 58, Verse 3 �Dev
maha osi� �God is verily great� �Verily,
surya, thou art great; truly, aditya, thou art great. As thou art great indeed
thy greatness is admired: yea, verily,
great art thou, O God� (Atharvaveda
Samhiti Volume 2, William Dwight Whitney page 910) a) (ii) Surah Rad, Chapter 13, Verse 9 A
similar message is given in Qur�an Surah Rad, Chapter 13, Verse 9, �He
is the Great, the most High.� 7. Rigveda The
most oldest and sacred amongst all the Vedas is Rigveda. a) Rigveda,
Book No.1, Hymn No. 164, Verse 46 It
is mentioned in Rigveda Book no.1, Hymn no.164 Verse 46
�Sages (learned Priest) call one God by
many names� �They have styled
(Him, God or the sun) indra (the resplendent), mitra (the surveyor), varuna
(the venerable), agni (the adorable), and he is the celestial, well-winged
garutmat (the great), for learned priests call one by many names as they speak
of the adorable as yama (ordainer) and matarisvan (cosmic breath)�. b) (i) Rigveda, Book 2, Hymn 1 Rigveda gives no less than 33
different attributes to Almighty God several of these attributes are mentioned
in Rigveda, Book 2, Hymn 1 b) (ii) Brahma - Creator - Khaliq,
Rigveda Book 2, Hymn 1, Verse 3 Amongst the various
attributes given in Rigveda one of the beautiful attributes for Almighty God is
�Brahma�. �Brahma� means �the creator�. If you translate into Arabic it means
�Khaliq�. We Muslims have got no objection if you call Almighty God a �Khaliq�
or �Creator� or �Brahma� but if someone says that �Brahma� is Almighty God who
has got 4 heads and on each head is a crown and he has got 4 hands. We Muslims
take strong except to it because you are giving an image to Almighty God.
Moreover you are going against Yajurveda, Chapter 32, Verse 3, which says, �Na tasya pratima asti�
��There is no image of him� b) (iii) Vishnu - Sustainer -
Rabb: Rigveda, Book II, Hymn 1, Verse 3 Another beautiful attribute
mentioned in the Rigveda, Book II, Hymn 1, Verse 3, is Vishnu, �Vishnu� means
�the Sustainer�. If you translate into Arabic it means �Rabb�, we Muslims have
no objection if anyone call Almighty God as �Rabb� or �Sustainer� or �Vishnu�
but if someone says Vishnu is Almighty God who has got 4 arms. One of the right
arm holding the �Chakra� i.e. a discus and one of the left arms holding a
�Conch shell� and he is riding on a bird or reclining on a snake couch. We
Muslims take strong exception to this, because you are giving an image to
Almighty God. Moreover you are going against Yajurveda, Chapter 40, Verse 8. c) Rigveda,
Book 8, Hymn 1, Verse 1 It
is mentioned in Rigveda, Book 8, Hymn 1, Verse 1 �Ma
Chidanyadia Shansata� �Do
not worship anybody but Him, the divine one Praise Him alone� �Ma cid anyad vi sansata sakhayo
ma rishanyata in dram it stota vrishanam saca sute muhaur uktha ca sansata�. �O friends, do not worship anybody
but Him, the divine one. Let no grief perturb you. Praise Him alone, the radiant, the showerer
of benefits. During the course of self-realization, go on repeatedly uttering
Hymns in His honour�. (Rigveda Samhiti, Volume IX, page
1 and 2 by Swami Satyaprakash Sarasvati and Satyakam Vidhya Lankar) d) (i) Rigveda, Book 5, Hymn 81, Verse 1 It
is mentioned in Rigveda, Book 5, Hymn 81, Verse 1, �Verily great is the glory of the
divine creator� (Rigveda Samhiti, Volume 6, page
1802 and 1803 by Swami Satya Prakash Saraswati and Satyakam Vidhyalanka) d) (ii) Surah Fateha, Chapter 1, Verse 2 Similar message is given in the Holy
Qur�an In Surah Fateha, Chapter 1, Verse 2, �Praise
be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds�. e) (i) Rigveda, Book 3, Hymn 34, Verse 1 It is mentioned in Rigveda, Book
3, Hymn 34, Verse 1 �The bounteous giver� (Hymns of Rigveda, Volume 2, page
377, by Ralph T.H. Griffith) e) (ii) Surah Fateha, Chapter 1, Verse 3 Same as Surah Fateha, Chapter 1, Verse
3, �Most Gracious, most merciful� f) (i) Yajurveda, Chapter 40,
Verse 160 It is mentioned in Yajurveda, Chapter
40, Verse 16 �Lead us to the good path and remove the
sin that makes us stray and wonder� �By goodly path lead
us to riches, Agni, thou God who knowest all our works and wisdom. Remove the
sin that makes us astray and wander: most ample adoration will we bring thee� (The Yajurveda Samhiti by Ralph T.H
Griffith Page 541) f) (ii) Surah Fateha, Chapter 1,
Verse 6 and 7 Similar
message is given in Surah Fateha,
Chapter 1, Verse 6 and 7 �Show us the straight way, the way
of those on whom thou has bestowed thy grace, those whose (portion) is not
wrath. And who go not astray�. g) Rigveda, Book No VI, Hymn 45, Verse 16
It is mentioned in Rigveda, Book VI, Hymn 45, Verse 16
�Ya eka ittamushtuhi�
�Praize Him who is the matchless and alone.�
(Hymns of Rigveda by Ralph T.H. Griffith page 648) 8. Brahma Sutra of Hindu Vedanta The Brahma Sutra of Hindu Vedanta
is: �Ekam Brahm, dvitiya naste nen na
naste kinchan� �Bhagwan ek hi hai dusara nahi
hai, nahi hain nahi hai zara bhi nahi hai.� �There is only one God, not the
second, not at all, not in the least bit.� Therefore only if
you read the Hindu Scripture will you understand the correct concept of God in
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